I know this format can be expensive. I also know you can take it to even more ridiculous extremes when you really like a deck. I have really enjoyed playing Pox lately. It isn't terribly expensive (especially Mono-Black), but you can make it much more if you go for the vanity options. For instance:
4 of the cheapest Mishra's Factories-about four bucks
4 of the Winter Mishra's Factories - about three hundred dollars
10-15 basic lands - free
10-15 Beta lands - about fifty dollars (if you want GURU, hooo boy)
4 of the cheapest Dark Rituals - about four bucks
4 Beta Dark Rituals - over a hundred dollars
I love Alpha/Beta stuff and early expansions and have to get it if it is available. It is silly, but this hobby can be silly. Do any of the rest of you do this?
Aside from EDH and my Affinity deck, no. Card board is expensive, especially when I always end up comparing it to things I use everyday, like a sound system and car parts, to something I get to use once in a blue moon in competition, like Legacy decks. My Mimeo EDH and Affinity deck will always be kept with me and possibly inherited to family and never evolve once the expensive pimp card has been added.
My pimp includes foils, miscut, full art and/or altered arts.
I like to look at the cards and admire them as much as play with them so ultimately yes, but I don't search after it that hard. I go for foreigns and foils if they don't cost that much more than the regular ones. I bought about 22 dual lands from someone, kept 3 (2 NM FBB and a NM French WB Tundra), and am selling the rest. I basically got the 3 for free as selling the other 19 will net me what I paid for the full thing. So I got to 'pimp' out my lands a bit and it basically cost me zilch. I've also bought German revised commons (Bolts, Disenchants, Swords) recently, as they are relatively cheap and look really good.
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once in a while I'll splurge. I have an original mom, rather than the commander, a few foreign serra avengers, a beta plains, and fancy art plains for DnT. But overall, I don't splurge.
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I would never pimp my deck out, because there's always something else that I'm going to need. I've never understood the need to foil out a deck, either. I have no idea why Wizards introduced those dumb arse things. Having a foiled set of avacyn's pilgrims must be on the same level as a dude who puts expensive spinner hubcaps on an old Honda Civic.
I mean it makes sense for some awesome cards to be foiled... but whole foiled decks are like ridiculously sweet frosting and no cake -- if that makes any sense.
Anyway, I see splurging for expensive cards when there are cheaper alternatives as being the same as foiling out a deck.
Having a foiled set of avacyn's pilgrims must be on the same level as a dude who puts expensive spinner hubcaps on an old Honda Civic.
I hope you dont mind but I might be adding this to my sig.
On to topic. When it comes to EDH yes, pimping is fun (but it ain't easy) I dont know why I do it...I just do. As for other decks no. For instance last last night I straight up traded my non-foil Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for a foil(non-promo). He is in my tron deck. And yes my mind was blown, especially since this transaction happened shortly after a straight up Lord of Extinction trade, non-foil for foil. Since Big E is not allowed in EDH. I am heavily leaning on selling it. Then buying another + Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
As for older cards I typically don't have a preference. Ill play white boarders. Even though I'm not a big fan. Older cards are going to hold there value IMO. If you can get them on the cheap then by all means. But ~$50 for beta swamps when you can use Ravnica swamps. I don't see the big deal.
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Originally posted by Rywads Having a foiled set of avacyn's pilgrims must be on the same level as a dude who puts expensive spinner hubcaps on an old Honda Civic.
I go with Beta basics and whatever else I can afford (Lightning Bolt, Dark Ritual, Llanowar Elves, Wild Growth, Disenchant, etc.). I'd love to pick up some Swords to Plowshares; not even going to dream about duals.
English, always. Non-foil, always, although I'll be sad when I want to pick up Imperial Recruiters or have to play Loyal Retainers. Black border if at all possible; old frame if possible. Black border trumps old frame (so I'll choose an 10E Wrath of God or an M10 Birds of Paradise over the 4th Edition versions, since I can't afford Beta). I avoid Portal if possible.
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Due to real-life obligations, I am taking a long break from Magic which may include missing the local Legacy GP. Apologies for not being able to keep my threads updated.
I'm currently trying to get a completely signed/russian DnT build. I have the deck already, just working on tracking down russian and signed versions of all the cards that I can.
Plains - John Avon - 230
Island - Jung Park - 235
Island - Vincent Proce - 237
Swamp - John Avon - 238
Mountain - John Avon - 242
Forest - John Avon - 246
Language means little to me, and foil is cool but not worth the expense. I'll go for Unglued and Unhinged basic land, but Guru I feel is flatly insane.
The pimpness I very much appreciate is altered art. Cool, well-done card alters are just amazing, far and away outstripping (my opinion) the tawdry gloss of the foil and the pedantic obscurism of foreign language cards.
The very quest for an artist and the placing of a commission is an adventure, and so much more meaningful than simply buying or trading for a foil. Then when other players look upon the foil, what do they see? It's cool, sure, but everyone thinks of how much it must have cost. Altered art? People pick up the card and admire the beauty of it. The cost may be discussed but it's never the foremost thought.
Quality altered art just exudes class and taste, far beyond the crass expense of the foil.
I started to but stopped when I realized that it wasn't going to be worth it in the end. If I happen to have a pimp copy of something in a deck, I'll play it. Otherwise, I won't bother. Legacy is expensive enough without having to get the "best" possible copy of each card.
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I just choose the version I like most for my lands, regardless of price. I use Mirage lands and I'm tracking down APAC lands. And I try to have all my cards with the old frame and black bordered if possible.
I'm still waiting for a foil Black lotus to hit the market!
But aside from that, the only real pimp cards I can say I got are a foil players reward Wasteland and 4 Land Tax. Why is land tax pimp you ask? Look at the dude's hat.
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Stasis players like me are like those old gray haired convicts that have been locked up for 40 years straight. You can take us in a fight but you know you'll lose a testicle in the process of winning.
Decks I play
Legacy
Dredge 0
DredgeGBRU
AffinityXRUB
GoblinsRWB
10 land StompyG
BurnR
DreadstillURW
BelcherGR
Death and Taxes W
Enchantress GWR
BUILDING
Legacy Lands GBRUW
I'll never tell you the flavor text of Teferi's Imp!!
Yes. I am (and and always have been, and always will be) a UW player. As such I have acquired 'pimp' versions of staples of those colors. Beta Swords to Plowshares, Counterspells, FBB Tundras etc. I also Have ~ 50 Beta Islands and 50 beta Plains (~30 of each other basic land type). They're my favorite cards so I know they'll see use.
As cool as the idea is, its actually a detriment to be playing multiple versions of the same card, as you can end up revealing more information if portions of your hand are revealed individually. (ie, opponent goes cabal therapy, sees winter mishra's, you draw a spring one, and it gets discarded to their following turn hymn to tourach. If they were both winter, the opponent wouldn't know you still had one in hand)
Wizards totally got the idea to foil cards from the Pokemon TCG.
You do realize that wizards was the original publisher of the Pokemon tcg? Also, foils were added to magic within two months of the Pokemon TCG's release.
I run unhinged basics for all my decks but that is the only visual upgrade that I will do. I will cast the white boarder brainstorm from the revised tundra.
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I have gone the pimp route for decks I play a lot. I did it for my first EDH deck as well, mostly because I had most of it foil to begin with (also cut mind twist for mind shatter to keep cards foil). Now the only pimp concerns I have are for cube. I think it adds to that experience a little.
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I try to use black borders for all my cards unless they are dual lands where Revised is fine. If I was sold on a certain color combination for life, I might would upgrade them to a foreign version. I do however use white bordered Swords to Plowshares because its my favorite art for the card. The beta version is just so hard to come by and not really a feasible upgrade for me when the cost could go towards another dual land for a different deck, etc. I use unhinged basics if the decks run any and I typically shy away from foils unless that's all I have of a certain card.
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4 of the cheapest Mishra's Factories-about four bucks
4 of the Winter Mishra's Factories - about three hundred dollars
10-15 basic lands - free
10-15 Beta lands - about fifty dollars (if you want GURU, hooo boy)
4 of the cheapest Dark Rituals - about four bucks
4 Beta Dark Rituals - over a hundred dollars
I love Alpha/Beta stuff and early expansions and have to get it if it is available. It is silly, but this hobby can be silly. Do any of the rest of you do this?
My pimp includes foils, miscut, full art and/or altered arts.
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I mean it makes sense for some awesome cards to be foiled... but whole foiled decks are like ridiculously sweet frosting and no cake -- if that makes any sense.
Anyway, I see splurging for expensive cards when there are cheaper alternatives as being the same as foiling out a deck.
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Unglued Lands for my basics
Alpha Lightning Bolts
I like original printing, black border and old card frames, though all my duals are revised and my swords to plowshares are Ice Age.
That's enough of an expense for me.
On to topic. When it comes to EDH yes, pimping is fun (but it ain't easy) I dont know why I do it...I just do. As for other decks no. For instance last last night I straight up traded my non-foil Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for a foil(non-promo). He is in my tron deck. And yes my mind was blown, especially since this transaction happened shortly after a straight up Lord of Extinction trade, non-foil for foil. Since Big E is not allowed in EDH. I am heavily leaning on selling it. Then buying another + Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
As for older cards I typically don't have a preference. Ill play white boarders. Even though I'm not a big fan. Older cards are going to hold there value IMO. If you can get them on the cheap then by all means. But ~$50 for beta swamps when you can use Ravnica swamps. I don't see the big deal.
EDH-
Shattergang BothersGBR Kaalia the Vast RBW Pillowpants the Blackblade, Troll of the PillowfortBUW Jarad Golgari Lich Lord's Pet CemeteryGB (Retired)
Ghave Guru of SporesGBW (Retired)
Jenara, Asura of WarGWU Norin the WayR Rhys the RedeemedGW Oloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
Ezuri, Renegade LeaderG
Alpha/Beta>Old Korean>Russian>German
Exceptions are made for foreign cards with ridiculous names.
Por Ejemplo: German Countryside Crusher
English, always. Non-foil, always, although I'll be sad when I want to pick up Imperial Recruiters or have to play Loyal Retainers. Black border if at all possible; old frame if possible. Black border trumps old frame (so I'll choose an 10E Wrath of God or an M10 Birds of Paradise over the 4th Edition versions, since I can't afford Beta). I avoid Portal if possible.
Legacy
UWR Miracles UWR
GWB Maverick GWB
GB Elves GB
UBR ANT UBR
RG Combo Lands RG
Vintage
BUG BUG Fish BUG
Modern
GBW
Junk PodMagic: the BuylistingLegacy-U Faerie Ninja Still, WDeath and Taxes
Casual-WB Bleed, WGUBRCascade
or even better, one of each season
I have a few guru lands but I don't play them as I don't have enough for any one deck. I do like all my lands to match.
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Plains - John Avon - 230
Island - Jung Park - 235
Island - Vincent Proce - 237
Swamp - John Avon - 238
Mountain - John Avon - 242
Forest - John Avon - 246
The pimpness I very much appreciate is altered art. Cool, well-done card alters are just amazing, far and away outstripping (my opinion) the tawdry gloss of the foil and the pedantic obscurism of foreign language cards.
The very quest for an artist and the placing of a commission is an adventure, and so much more meaningful than simply buying or trading for a foil. Then when other players look upon the foil, what do they see? It's cool, sure, but everyone thinks of how much it must have cost. Altered art? People pick up the card and admire the beauty of it. The cost may be discussed but it's never the foremost thought.
Quality altered art just exudes class and taste, far beyond the crass expense of the foil.
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Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
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Legacy: UR Sneak and Show I UBG Team America I X Metalworker MUD
Modern: UBR Blue Jund I WBX Eldrazi Processors I X Affinity I WRG Nacatl Burn I GR Tron I UBR Grishoalbrand
UBG Reanimator
RUB Delver
R Burn
UR Delver
UBW Tin Fins
UBGR ANT
But aside from that, the only real pimp cards I can say I got are a foil players reward Wasteland and 4 Land Tax. Why is land tax pimp you ask? Look at the dude's hat.
Decks I play
Legacy
Dredge 0
DredgeGBRU
AffinityXRUB
GoblinsRWB
10 land StompyG
BurnR
DreadstillURW
BelcherGR
Death and Taxes W
Enchantress GWR
BUILDING
Legacy Lands GBRUW
I'll never tell you the flavor text of Teferi's Imp!!
Legacy
Control
Miracles
All flavors of Stoneblade
Aggro
Grixis Delver
UR Delver
Burn
Combo
Dredge
TES/ANT
UR & UB Reanimator
Belcher
As cool as the idea is, its actually a detriment to be playing multiple versions of the same card, as you can end up revealing more information if portions of your hand are revealed individually. (ie, opponent goes cabal therapy, sees winter mishra's, you draw a spring one, and it gets discarded to their following turn hymn to tourach. If they were both winter, the opponent wouldn't know you still had one in hand)
You do realize that wizards was the original publisher of the Pokemon tcg? Also, foils were added to magic within two months of the Pokemon TCG's release.
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