KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
(I thought you were letting town kill each other and passively getting through D1. So I shot you. On the offchance you were town, I figured you were a good option to have been busdrivered with scum as well. So, win-win there.
So, Shadow claimed Vig. DV claimed Vig. I claimed Vig.
Johhny claimed BP. AG claimed BP.
So yea, AG is the vote here. We just need to figure out which of DV/Shadow is scum. It's probably DV since he couldn't have shot you too.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
(I thought you were letting town kill each other and passively getting through D1. So I shot you. On the offchance you were town, I figured you were a good option to have been busdrivered with scum as well. So, win-win there.
So, Shadow claimed Vig. DV claimed Vig. I claimed Vig.
Johhny claimed BP. AG claimed BP.
So yea, AG is the vote here. We just need to figure out which of DV/Shadow is scum. It's probably DV since he couldn't have shot you too.
Vote AG)
You forgot about role blocks.
Shadow claimed to not shoot. That's stupid. Ask Tom if you still have your shot.
(I thought you were letting town kill each other and passively getting through D1. So I shot you. On the offchance you were town, I figured you were a good option to have been busdrivered with scum as well. So, win-win there.
So, Shadow claimed Vig. DV claimed Vig. I claimed Vig.
Johhny claimed BP. AG claimed BP.
So yea, AG is the vote here. We just need to figure out which of DV/Shadow is scum. It's probably DV since he couldn't have shot you too.
Vote AG)
Also if you are not scum. Why the **** would I vote my buddy here? The correct play as scum is to get one of the town to vote with your buddy then come in for the quick hammer.
(I thought you were letting town kill each other and passively getting through D1. So I shot you. On the offchance you were town, I figured you were a good option to have been busdrivered with scum as well. So, win-win there.
So, Shadow claimed Vig. DV claimed Vig. I claimed Vig.
Johhny claimed BP. AG claimed BP.
So yea, AG is the vote here. We just need to figure out which of DV/Shadow is scum. It's probably DV since he couldn't have shot you too.
Vote AG)
You forgot about role blocks.
Shadow claimed to not shoot. That's stupid. Ask Tom if you still have your shot.
I disagree with that. Tonight would be the bad night to shoot.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Also why would any mafia hammer their buddy here. Its just bad.
They might convince the other town to do so.
No its shadow.
That ******* question by him was weak too. Trying to stay "Town looking" but not actually saying anything. From his perspective its either KJ or I. But he's just hiding.
Also why would any mafia hammer their buddy here. Its just bad.
They might convince the other town to do so.
No its shadow.
That ******* question by him was weak too. Trying to stay "Town looking" but not actually saying anything. From his perspective its either KJ or I. But he's just hiding.
Were you talking about my question to GJ regarding you? Because obviously it is between you and KJ, hence why I was trying to get reads from the confirms town.DV: why did you vote without hearing KJ's claim?
KJ: why did you hammer without waiting for the answer to your questions?
(Didn't actually count the votes even I voted, as I'd said.
So there's a 0% chance it's shadow because if myself and dv actually both shot Johnny yesterday, he would have died. Therefore, one of us is lying. I know I shot GJ, so it must be dv.
Not gonna make the same mistake and vote early this time though because lylo)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
(Didn't actually count the votes even I voted, as I'd said.
So there's a 0% chance it's shadow because if myself and dv actually both shot Johnny yesterday, he would have died. Therefore, one of us is lying. I know I shot GJ, so it must be dv.
Not gonna make the same mistake and vote early this time though because lylo)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
(That was my question. Hm. Hey shadow, convince me that dv is scum)
So I'll answer this too. Look at DV's mindsets this game, he's been far too sure to not have inside info. Day one he danced between me and Grapefruit in a way that shows that he knew it didn't matter which one of us ate the rope. Day 2, he voted without you full claiming, meaning he knew that you hadn't shot his partner, and rather than playing it out, he went fast and loose with a bus to drive to end game (because regardless of which one of us hammered AG, he gets to make the other look bad). His argument is that as scum he could have just gone for the win, but he did the same stunt in cops, he framed his Godfather buddy and then let himself be sold down the river to make me the game losing mislynch. Now today, he voted me in his first post. In LyLo. No one should ever be that sure, which is something I've had to learn the hard way. DV has commanded this game from the beginning, he has all the answers, because he knew them all ahead of time.
Shadow is scum because of how this day played out.
I voted shadow. This is the wrong play as scum. I should have seen if I could have gotten you to vote shadow or shadow to vote you. With my vote the way it is it forces shadow in to having to make a decision. Shadow knows that I know he is scum so his only play now is to vote me and to hope to vote you. Him holding his shot makes no sense additionally. Or at least as much sense as how the game actually played out which was the bus driver play.
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The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Tried to shoot him last night
I mean this.
But tried to shoot GJ last night.
Looks like we found GJ's buddy.
WEAKKK
D_V is scum.
(Gentleman Johnny was my target. As claimed earlier, it didn't work.
But if he's one shot, then both me and DV shot him, he should be dead. So one of DV/me is lying.
So it has to be DV/AG as the team.
Actually, wait.
@Mod: If two people shoot the BP in one night, do both shots fail? Also, would we get notified of roleblocks?)
It's pretty obvious: AG decided to get out of line and claim bp.
Why the hell did two people shoot at me? >:(
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Now for the other town to realize it and vote AG.
(I thought you were letting town kill each other and passively getting through D1. So I shot you. On the offchance you were town, I figured you were a good option to have been busdrivered with scum as well. So, win-win there.
So, Shadow claimed Vig. DV claimed Vig. I claimed Vig.
Johhny claimed BP. AG claimed BP.
So yea, AG is the vote here. We just need to figure out which of DV/Shadow is scum. It's probably DV since he couldn't have shot you too.
Vote AG)
You forgot about role blocks.
Shadow claimed to not shoot. That's stupid. Ask Tom if you still have your shot.
Also if you are not scum. Why the **** would I vote my buddy here? The correct play as scum is to get one of the town to vote with your buddy then come in for the quick hammer.
I disagree with that. Tonight would be the bad night to shoot.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I am dying tonight anyway so glgl. I would go KJ > Shadow right nao.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
(I think we have it solved now. Dv is scum'if the mod confirms that you would be dead if two people shoot you, GJ. If not, it's shadow)
GJ not gloating means this game isn't over.
GJ, why is DV lock town?
You hammered though with nothing to look at.
Vig(s): If AG isn't the busdriver, no way in hell you should be shooting.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Mod, can you also confirm vigs would be notified if they targeted a different player than their initial target?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
(Yeah, I didn't count the votes on him. I still think we have this)
Order of operations =/
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Shadow might be lock clear then.
****, I don't know anymore. Glgl
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Even though I guess hoping you would claim vig was stupid and I should have come out first.
I promise you its shadow. Well. Unless the mafia roleblocked the doc.
They clearly didn't roleblock you. They role blocked one of the two vigs. That means its AG and Shadow.
They might convince the other town to do so.
No its shadow.
That ******* question by him was weak too. Trying to stay "Town looking" but not actually saying anything. From his perspective its either KJ or I. But he's just hiding.
gentleman johnny (1) - atheistgod
not voting (1) - shadow
AtheistGod has been lynched
He was:
It is now Night 2
Actions due in ~24 hours
You guys: *various questions*
No one gets any information
1 shot bulletproof stops 1 shot. duh.
He was:
It is now day 3
With 3 alive, its 2 to lynch.
DV: why did you vote without hearing KJ's claim?
KJ: why did you hammer without waiting for the answer to your questions?
(Didn't actually count the votes even I voted, as I'd said.
So there's a 0% chance it's shadow because if myself and dv actually both shot Johnny yesterday, he would have died. Therefore, one of us is lying. I know I shot GJ, so it must be dv.
Not gonna make the same mistake and vote early this time though because lylo)
Role Block mate?
Vote Shadow
(The doc obviously self targeted, or that's what the scum would anticipate, so they would have rbed him. That's the obvious play.)
Bus driver?
They bus drivered the doc onto a mafia.
Yeap you are town.
Vote DV
It would be you.
Its shadow.
I mean in the fact that you are not tricking me into voting him. So this is your only play and it is a bad one.
(I need to ask the mod a question. I'll figure the game out after that.)
Ask me too.
(Tell me your question and I'll tell you if it's mine.)
Can scum use kill and block?
3. scum have daychat. kill is unassigned.
B) WE don't know info and if the shot is blocked it is still used up.
(That was my question. Hm. Hey shadow, convince me that dv is scum)
Actually. Hey shadow, why didn't you shoot?)
He didn't hes lying.
Additionally look at it this way.
Shadow is scum because of how this day played out.
I voted shadow. This is the wrong play as scum. I should have seen if I could have gotten you to vote shadow or shadow to vote you. With my vote the way it is it forces shadow in to having to make a decision. Shadow knows that I know he is scum so his only play now is to vote me and to hope to vote you. Him holding his shot makes no sense additionally. Or at least as much sense as how the game actually played out which was the bus driver play.