Hmm, I'm tinfoiling a scum!megs world. Megs, why aren't you doing anything to reconsider/further your reads and the gamestate?
Tom: why did you eliminate the scum Meg pairings except with me and DV?
hol on a sec
how i'm supposed to do those things when we haven't even had any flips?
wait, wait, i feel something coming on... it's... it's... by god, i've just re-evaluated the gamestate!
unvote, vote shadow
NO BRAKES
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Hmm, I'm tinfoiling a scum!megs world. Megs, why aren't you doing anything to reconsider/further your reads and the gamestate?
Tom: why did you eliminate the scum Meg pairings except with me and DV?
hol on a sec
how i'm supposed to do those things when we haven't even had any flips?
wait, wait, i feel something coming on... it's... it's... by god, i've just re-evaluated the gamestate!
unvote, vote shadow
NO BRAKES
Gimme a break, you've been on coast and lynch mode the whole game. Yeah, it was funny to start, but plenty has happened and you e just spouted 1-liners and "No Brakes" the whole time. And now I'm calling you out on your active lurking and your response is to vote me? Nuh uh, that was not a town reaction.
@Cantrip I read most of overwatch, after the whole ghosting getting me lynched thing. My read of you may be somewhat influenced by that, in that I am wary of you as a skilled player having seen it.
In a game much more heavily impacted by deadlines, you would okay letting zomg hang around? I'm not saying lynch him immediately, but surely it raises an eyebrow?
Hmm, I'm tinfoiling a scum!megs world. Megs, why aren't you doing anything to reconsider/further your reads and the gamestate?
Tom: why did you eliminate the scum Meg pairings except with me and DV?
hol on a sec
how i'm supposed to do those things when we haven't even had any flips?
wait, wait, i feel something coming on... it's... it's... by god, i've just re-evaluated the gamestate!
@Cantrip I read most of overwatch, after the whole ghosting getting me lynched thing. My read of you may be somewhat influenced by that, in that I am wary of you as a skilled player having seen it.
In a game much more heavily impacted by deadlines, you would okay letting zomg hang around? I'm not saying lynch him immediately, but surely it raises an eyebrow?
@Cantrip I read most of overwatch, after the whole ghosting getting me lynched thing. My read of you may be somewhat influenced by that, in that I am wary of you as a skilled player having seen it.
...duh, right. When I asked that question I totally spaced that you were IN Overwatch...sorry. I just find it amusing that I successfully managed to fake a town!facade to almost everyone there, but you're seeing my sincere town posting here as fake. I'm trying to gauge how much of that is residual from Overwatch. Or if you're scum. But I don't think you're scum.
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In a game much more heavily impacted by deadlines, you would okay letting zomg hang around? I'm not saying lynch him immediately, but surely it raises an eyebrow?
It doesn't really make me raise an eyebrow. It's not like Zomg has been active anywhere else on the site (I know, I know, I can't use that as an argument, but still), and Real Life Interferes is a thing that I've experienced, so I know it's real. I certainly don't feel the need to lynch him before N1, and I think if he hasn't come back by then, we'll have a replacement (or a modkill, but hopefully a replacement). I'll reiterate, even though I still can't speak for Zomg: winning by going AWOL would never feel like a win to me. Would you employ it as a tactic?
@Tom: Are you aware of the "interesting" scumtell?
I could get behind lynching Megiddo, especially after that OMGUS on Shadow, but I'd still rather lynch Tom.
@Tom: What makes you think Megiddo is town?
@DV: Who was 156 addressed to, and what did you think it would accomplish?
Sorry I haven't been very active, but Real Life Interferes.
@Tom: Are you aware of the "interesting" scumtell?
I could get behind lynching Megiddo, especially after that OMGUS on Shadow, but I'd still rather lynch Tom.
@Tom: What makes you think Megiddo is town?
oh, is saying "interesting" a scum tell? interesting
megs is a pretty weak townread. but it would just be so easy for him to be solvey in a traditional way (well, his traditional way) and i doubt his scumstrategy would be "lol lets lynch people"
maybe its just because, you know, thats my approach too. he'd almost have to at least try to be townie here as scum. and he just doesnt care at all.
its a good look for him
Hmm, I'm tinfoiling a scum!megs world. Megs, why aren't you doing anything to reconsider/further your reads and the gamestate?
Tom: why did you eliminate the scum Meg pairings except with me and DV?
hol on a sec
how i'm supposed to do those things when we haven't even had any flips?
wait, wait, i feel something coming on... it's... it's... by god, i've just re-evaluated the gamestate!
unvote, vote shadow
NO BRAKES
interesting
why?
you should vote him.
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@Cantrip I read most of overwatch, after the whole ghosting getting me lynched thing. My read of you may be somewhat influenced by that, in that I am wary of you as a skilled player having seen it.
In a game much more heavily impacted by deadlines, you would okay letting zomg hang around? I'm not saying lynch him immediately, but surely it raises an eyebrow?
to the bolded:
why not?
While scummy, I wanted to give him a chance to literally post anything before lynching him.
@Tom: Since when are flips the only thing that make people re-evaluate? I'm not asking him to turn his whole world view upside down, but come on, Megs is doing literally nothing to try and get better reads or push the game forward. He's very one dimensionally pushing to lynch people regardless of what they have to say or what other people have to say about them, it's lazy play at best and not helpful to town at all.
And what's up with you? You feel soft, like you've been neutered or something. Where is the real Tom at?
@Cantrip it's precisely because you pulled one over that makes me more suspicious, than I probably should be. I would never intentionally employ that tactic to win, but I would hesitate to say nobody would. So it's a complete null tell for you?
Vote Megs
No brakesing is not helpful, and while humorous, doesn't best serve the purposes of the town. So why stick to it?
@Tom: Since when are flips the only thing that make people re-evaluate? I'm not asking him to turn his whole world view upside down, but come on, Megs is doing literally nothing to try and get better reads or push the game forward. He's very one dimensionally pushing to lynch people regardless of what they have to say or what other people have to say about them, it's lazy play at best and not helpful to town at all.
And what's up with you? You feel soft, like you've been neutered or something. Where is the real Tom at?
im of the opinion that lynching people does push the game forward
but it all depends on what he (or anyone) does with it
i will say megs' no brakesing is... a bit shallow. Like, i dig the concept. Im doing it. DV is doing it.
But we're also doing stuff. asking questions. creating data points. yada yada.
and megs kind of... isnt
im not sure thats scummy though. im not really seeing an agenda. scummegs has schemes.
meh
Hmm, I'm tinfoiling a scum!megs world. Megs, why aren't you doing anything to reconsider/further your reads and the gamestate?
i guess the question i have
is why is that a tinfoil?
Because at that point of written off Megs as town and I got really paranoid that I'd done so for bad reasons (which I kind of had).
Also, we have 7 hours to deadline. I'd like to lynch Megs today, I would lynch Tom, but I'd rather see KJ's flip first if we could.
Hmm, just realized that at least one of KJ or Megs is town since the game isn't over. If we got one, I'm going to go with Megiddo being more likely to be scum than Killjoy.
Hmm, just realized that at least one of KJ or Megs is town since the game isn't over. If we got one, I'm going to go with Megiddo being more likely to be scum than Killjoy.
I noticed the same thing and wondered if anyone would bring it up.
@Tom: "Interesting" can be a scumtell, especially devoid of any explanation, because it lightly smears via implying questionable activity without committal to a read one way or another.
@Shadow: What do you think me bringing it up/Tom not bringing it up indicates? Why did you choose not to bring it up? (I will mention that I *almost* asked a question when I made 190, but chose not to.)
I have my reasons but I can't really explain them.
For reasons.
Hey DV, is this something you can explain now, or was this some weird soul read?
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Tom: I get your PoE (kind of), but who is your lynch choice if the game doesn't end by lynching KJ?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
how i'm supposed to do those things when we haven't even had any flips?
wait, wait, i feel something coming on... it's... it's... by god, i've just re-evaluated the gamestate!
unvote, vote shadow
NO BRAKES
Plz....
unvote, vote Megs
Is ZOMG Killjoy?
In a game much more heavily impacted by deadlines, you would okay letting zomg hang around? I'm not saying lynch him immediately, but surely it raises an eyebrow?
Anaklusmos (2): D_V, tomsloger (L-2)
tomsloger (1): Cantripmancer
Shadowlancerx (1): Megiddo
Megiddo (1): shadowlancerx
Not Voting (2): Anaklusmos, zomgarcwind
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is in 1 day, 19 hours, and 32 minutes. Zomg is being prodded.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
why not?
Lets lynch him and move on.
Not lynching Cantrip or Shadow now.
Megs, and Zomg are the others I'll lynch.
It doesn't really make me raise an eyebrow. It's not like Zomg has been active anywhere else on the site (I know, I know, I can't use that as an argument, but still), and Real Life Interferes is a thing that I've experienced, so I know it's real. I certainly don't feel the need to lynch him before N1, and I think if he hasn't come back by then, we'll have a replacement (or a modkill, but hopefully a replacement). I'll reiterate, even though I still can't speak for Zomg: winning by going AWOL would never feel like a win to me. Would you employ it as a tactic?
@Tom: Are you aware of the "interesting" scumtell?
I could get behind lynching Megiddo, especially after that OMGUS on Shadow, but I'd still rather lynch Tom.
@Tom: What makes you think Megiddo is town?
@DV: Who was 156 addressed to, and what did you think it would accomplish?
Sorry I haven't been very active, but Real Life Interferes.
what new information was he supposed to use to reevaluate?
but you did too kinda. those posts kinda stand out in retrospect
interesting
megs is a pretty weak townread. but it would just be so easy for him to be solvey in a traditional way (well, his traditional way) and i doubt his scumstrategy would be "lol lets lynch people"
maybe its just because, you know, thats my approach too. he'd almost have to at least try to be townie here as scum. and he just doesnt care at all.
its a good look for him
i guess we arent getting 4 lynches but we have to get 2
more town controlled deaths than scum controlled is the only thing we have going for us this game and we cant give it up
you should vote him.
While scummy, I wanted to give him a chance to literally post anything before lynching him.
And what's up with you? You feel soft, like you've been neutered or something. Where is the real Tom at?
Vote Megs
No brakesing is not helpful, and while humorous, doesn't best serve the purposes of the town. So why stick to it?
Anaklusmos (2): D_V, tomsloger (L-2)
tomsloger (1): Cantripmancer
Shadowlancerx (1): Megiddo
Megiddo (2): shadowlancerx, Anaklusmos (L-2)
Not Voting (1): zomgarcwind
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is in 17 hours, and 17 minutes. Zomg is being replaced.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
but it all depends on what he (or anyone) does with it
i will say megs' no brakesing is... a bit shallow. Like, i dig the concept. Im doing it. DV is doing it.
But we're also doing stuff. asking questions. creating data points. yada yada.
and megs kind of... isnt
im not sure thats scummy though. im not really seeing an agenda. scummegs has schemes.
meh
is why is that a tinfoil?
Also, we have 7 hours to deadline. I'd like to lynch Megs today, I would lynch Tom, but I'd rather see KJ's flip first if we could.
Unvote, Vote Megiddo
It's what he'd want
Sure.
Vote No Lynch
Let's take that No Lynch jerk out.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Vote No lynch (though with the dead line I doubt it will matter)
I can't count because I am a scrub. Yes 6 alive.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
NO BRAKES
vote no lynch
Certainly hoping one is scum
@Shadow: What do you think me bringing it up/Tom not bringing it up indicates? Why did you choose not to bring it up? (I will mention that I *almost* asked a question when I made 190, but chose not to.)
Megiddo was lynched. He was Mafia.
Night 1 has started. Killjoy replaces zomgarcwind.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Day 2 lasts for 120 hours. Happy lynching.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Megs wanted to lynch anak and shadow
I assume I'll get lynched today if i cant find scum first because of my dumb megs defense.
vote killjoy
see if the game is easy before putting work in
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Tom: I get your PoE (kind of), but who is your lynch choice if the game doesn't end by lynching KJ?
"not me"
i havent figured that out yet.
hoping i dont have to
I know I'm going to be lynched at some point actually, since zomg did literally nothing and I'm a big question mark.
I actually think anak is town.
Why is DV town?