On December 27th you said you are scumreading: me, Hunt, D_V, zomg, red, scarbo, and Atog.
So of the 13 players who have posted, you think more than half of them could be scum? And the half you chose are the generally agreed upon more scummy half.
So I'm not allowed to be suspicious of more than the amount of scum we have?
So I'm not allowed to be suspicious of more than the amount of scum we have?
It's that how are half the players in the game potential scum to you, it just comes across as so eager. I understand 3-5 at most, but we're talking 7/13 players who posted, and this is when a lot of people were v/la as well.
What are your current reads on those players?
What makes you think they're scum?
Have you changed your opinion about any of them?
I always want to lynch Rhand this game I don't. I'll try and get some more specifics in a bit.
Also, officially claiming, Lena Oxton, Tracer btw.
Are you asking if I just have a general feel about him? If so, no there's quite a bit. I feel like he's been acting overeager, misconstruing the truth, and just echoing the popular views. I plan to expand more on this tomorrow, because obviously we may not have enough time now, but it's definitely more than just a general feel if that's what you meant.
I always want to lynch Rhand this game I don't. I'll try and get some more specifics in a bit.
Also, officially claiming, Lena Oxton, Tracer btw.
Are you asking if I just have a general feel about him? If so, no there's quite a bit. I feel like he's been acting overeager, misconstruing the truth, and just echoing the popular views. I plan to expand more on this tomorrow, because obviously we may not have enough time now, but it's definitely more than just a general feel if that's what you meant.
Oh no sorry.
I meant for myself.
Rhand lurks more when he is scum. He is much more uhh snake like? Hide in bush wait for weakness pounce. Etc.
That is a lynch. It is now twilight, lynch scene will go up tonight to give more time for replacements. You may continue posting until the lynch scene.
I'm probably not gonna bother presenting my votal findings until toMorrow, because it's significantly less relevant if this setup actually is multiball.
Or I'll just post it with a big "please ignore if there's more than one scumteam" disclaimer.
zomg is scum, about to be lynched, and the last thing he does is make sure DV looks awful by claiming that he's on another mafia team and "bussing" him.
This only works after it's been proven that the setup is multiball, be it by scum flipping specifically as Team A or Team B, or after two scum each with different team flavor flips.
I could see zomg trying to spitefully get town to eliminate a Neutral. But DV retracted his Neutral claim, so.
I don't know why he even claimed here. If this setup has one scumteam, then he's very unlikely to get lynched or vigged after getting zomg lynched. And no vig is going to shoot him just because zomg said so, unless zomg's flip proves that we're in a multiball.
So. My overall feelings here are "leave DV alone if one scumteam, kill with fire if multiball."
Which he shouldn't have to worry about, since he's insisting it's a regular setup.
Disclaimer: all analysis in this post assumes there is only one scumteam. Please disregard if that proves not to be the case.
Kind of annoying that no other significant wagon popped up toDay. There's no real counterwagon or lead as far as what scum were doing before zomg got run up. :/
I'm just gonna focus on zomg's ISO and the EoD1 wagon.
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I'm town, zomg is scum. Yay.
I think Rod is my strongest townread. He's very good at faking a breezy town tone, but the combination of using the wording of his role PM to confirm Ophidia as well as starting the zomg wagon (in addition to what I said about him earlier in the game in 125) has cemented him as town in my mind.
I already went over my thoughts on DV.
I think Rhand, Cantrip, and shadow are also unlikely partners. This is a combination of how they interacted with zomg as well as my own preexisting townreads on them.
Eh, all town on the zomg wagon? That's a little problematic. I remember voting 0mega for some reason or other, asking too many questions and not really following up on them. So if zomg was bussed, I'd start there.
The /entire/ scumteam lurking is eh. Probably not likely? The only thing I can really divine from the Abstainers is that "scum scarbo probably would have bussed the ***** out of zomg instead of just unvoting and letting the wagon happen?"
Still gonna hold onto my early town!Ophidia read.
0megaslot
Atogaholic
kittyslot
Ghosting
Huntzilla
Five names, probably ~three more scum. Kill them all.
Maybe Iso will replace into a townslot and do a better job of catching the scumteam than I can. That'd be nice too.
So I'm not allowed to be suspicious of more than the amount of scum we have?
It's that how are half the players in the game potential scum to you, it just comes across as so eager. I understand 3-5 at most, but we're talking 7/13 players who posted, and this is when a lot of people were v/la as well.
What are your current reads on those players?
What makes you think they're scum?
Have you changed your opinion about any of them?
I expect answers to all of these questions.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Ghosting is scum number 2.
Vaimes is scum number 3.
I am now claiming town my true role.
Suck it scum. Only one scum team dear lord ZOMG was OBV scum.
I'm just waiting to hear back from Rhand, then I have no problem ending the day, although you're claiming town now instead of neutral?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Yeah I am. I was doing a gimick for the read value. And look I found scum.
K ghosting might not be scum after that natural response.
Vaimes on the other hand.
I think you're wrong on Rhand Ghosting.
I assume you're townreading Rhand then, so what makes you think he's town?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Vote Zomg
Nice of you to contribute Anak, want to expand, or just ending the day despite me saying I'd like to hear from Rhand before ending the day?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
I always want to lynch Rhand this game I don't. I'll try and get some more specifics in a bit.
Also, officially claiming, Lena Oxton, Tracer btw.
Are you asking if I just have a general feel about him? If so, no there's quite a bit. I feel like he's been acting overeager, misconstruing the truth, and just echoing the popular views. I plan to expand more on this tomorrow, because obviously we may not have enough time now, but it's definitely more than just a general feel if that's what you meant.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Oh no sorry.
I meant for myself.
Rhand lurks more when he is scum. He is much more uhh snake like? Hide in bush wait for weakness pounce. Etc.
Just slowly collecting votes to look at later.
I'm also kind of hungry and might take a break from the Internet to eat.
I'm probably not gonna bother presenting my votal findings until toMorrow, because it's significantly less relevant if this setup actually is multiball.
Or I'll just post it with a big "please ignore if there's more than one scumteam" disclaimer.
Eh.
I don't suppose he'll be able to pop in before Night and give a reason for that.
I think it's a weird thing for scum to lie about.
Anyway, hush and let me gamesolve.
zomg is scum, about to be lynched, and the last thing he does is make sure DV looks awful by claiming that he's on another mafia team and "bussing" him.
This only works after it's been proven that the setup is multiball, be it by scum flipping specifically as Team A or Team B, or after two scum each with different team flavor flips.
I could see zomg trying to spitefully get town to eliminate a Neutral. But DV retracted his Neutral claim, so.
I don't know why he even claimed here. If this setup has one scumteam, then he's very unlikely to get lynched or vigged after getting zomg lynched. And no vig is going to shoot him just because zomg said so, unless zomg's flip proves that we're in a multiball.
So. My overall feelings here are "leave DV alone if one scumteam, kill with fire if multiball."
Which he shouldn't have to worry about, since he's insisting it's a regular setup.
Moving on.
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*inhales deeply*
Aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
D_v is scum
Why?
Kind of annoying that no other significant wagon popped up toDay. There's no real counterwagon or lead as far as what scum were doing before zomg got run up. :/
I'm just gonna focus on zomg's ISO and the EoD1 wagon.
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I'm town, zomg is scum. Yay.
I think Rod is my strongest townread. He's very good at faking a breezy town tone, but the combination of using the wording of his role PM to confirm Ophidia as well as starting the zomg wagon (in addition to what I said about him earlier in the game in 125) has cemented him as town in my mind.
I already went over my thoughts on DV.
I think Rhand, Cantrip, and shadow are also unlikely partners. This is a combination of how they interacted with zomg as well as my own preexisting townreads on them.
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zomgarcwind (8): Rodemy (#355), Rhand (#357), D_V (#358), Cantripmancer (#359), shadowlancerx (#452), Vaimes (#603), zomgarcwind (#607), 0meganaklusmos (#635)
Rodemy (1): Atogaholic (#11)
Abstaining (5): kittyslot, Ghosting, Huntzilla, Ophidia, scarbo
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Eh, all town on the zomg wagon? That's a little problematic. I remember voting 0mega for some reason or other, asking too many questions and not really following up on them. So if zomg was bussed, I'd start there.
The /entire/ scumteam lurking is eh. Probably not likely? The only thing I can really divine from the Abstainers is that "scum scarbo probably would have bussed the ***** out of zomg instead of just unvoting and letting the wagon happen?"
Still gonna hold onto my early town!Ophidia read.
0megaslot
Atogaholic
kittyslot
Ghosting
Huntzilla
Five names, probably ~three more scum. Kill them all.
Maybe Iso will replace into a townslot and do a better job of catching the scumteam than I can. That'd be nice too.
You ****in know why... hahahahahaha
He claimed tracer.
Guys.
I'm Tracer.
I AM JUST LAUGHING MY ASS OFF DON'T MIND ME.
Wow the scum sure are desperate to lynch me.
Yes d_v. I, as scum, am going to false claim after i reminded you that flavor gaming isn't a thing.
Jesus christ.
Just sayin'.
Still not sure why you claimed when you did, but I'm glad we got this sorted before Night.
And people think I'm what trying to flavor game?
Lul.
EZ win.
You mispelled hilarious.
BRINATOO END THIS DAY JESUS CHRIST I AM DONE.
Come on.
He wants to ride this and hope the town fall for his trap.
a vig on you at this point would not be a waste.
No it wouldn't because it would lead to your lynch.
But either way town is in a great spot.
What is this ****ery you are spewing.
Why are you false claiming other peoples names?
You know why I'm asking.
You already lied to get zomg lynched.
Why would we believe you now?
I think d_vs role isn't an overwatch character. That's why he wanted a nameclaim.
Stop copying me.
Scum just want to pull of my slick kill.
Did you not catch that i was vt?
That whole ophi ordeal with the "vanilla town or town vanilla" should have clued you in.
Well I'm not VT.
God this is fun.
Why would you do this? Did the ZOMG lynch tilt you that much?
I'm not actually gonna do this with you.
Until the lynch starts moving my way, i'll make an argument. But it is absolutley obvious why scum would never do this.