I use that term A LOT, its an ohio thing. I use it so much actually that I went back a few games to give you an Idea of how much I use the phrase:
*snip*
I don't have the time to look all those up, but I'm going to guess that you were of mixed alignments in all of those and that's not a list of your greatest scum hits? Would it have killed you to post your alignment in each of those games? Also, geez, that's a lot of research...
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I see quite a bit of fluff there, you responding to questions directed at you, some defense of other players, and not a whole lot of attacking/scumhunting. You want telling interactions? Go on the offensive and ask some questions.
I plan on it once prods are out and people start giving this game attention. What more can I gleam off the 6-7 active players with everyone else in the shadows? This will be a interesting mid-late day for sure. And most of my games have a bit of fluff posts, thats normal for me
Are you saying that you're not suspicious of any of the active players? Just because there are lurkers doesn't mean you can't scumhunt from what's available. But you're still not scumhunting, just responding to the questions leveled at you and saying "durr, prods, pls".
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I am voting D_V because I don’t buy his claim at this time. I have a really hard time buying d1 neutral claims for many reasons but the biggest one is the last game we played in together (which I believe was the last game he was in) we had 2 d1 neutral claims, both ended up being legit and all but between that and my d1 neutral claim (when I was actually town) in Janken mafia I just have a hard time buying it. Like I could see any team with players from Janken/Trigger Happy + D_V throwing the neutral claim in to throw some of us that were in those games off. Sadly there are quite a few and tinfoiling at this point would probably be a waste of time.
1. Explain more what you mean by that last line?
2. Why did you claim neutral as town in Janken? (Please don't make me go read it; I don't have the time right now.)
So not only have you seen multiple D1 legit neutral claims, but you have recently, as town, claimed neutral to play optimally, but you're voting DV because you think it's more likely that DV is scum gambiting with a neutral claim than either being a legit neutral or being town gambiting similar to what you just successfully did? That mindset makes no sense.
You never answered the question I asked in 198: Why do you feel the need to point out that you're being "honest" (in 193) about your opinion (thinking that no current wagon is going to go somewhere)?
I use that term A LOT, its an ohio thing. I use it so much actually that I went back a few games to give you an Idea of how much I use the phrase:
Janken- #245, #206
Barebones- #385, #985, #1124, #1100
Trigger Happy- #188, #1204, #1505, #1522, #1510 (twice), #1956, #1925
Kirby 2- #124
OTG- Not Used
Kirby 1- Not Used (Game lasted less than 100 posts)
TF2- #111,
You never acknowledged or followed up on your question to Ghosting. What did you glean from Ghosting's response (in 258)?
This is a hard question to answer until I actually go look at these games of his, which I imagine I will do during Night phase unless he does something between now and then to warrant me digging in during the day phase. I really really really hate lynching off meta alone (The sole exceptions being Tom/Seppel) and nothing in those games by themselves would give me a reason to do anything more than apply some pressure, which I think everyone has applied already.
The other thing that caught my eye is that he said “to give a good idea of my play. Additionally the neutral game is actually a good refelction of my town play” There are some players, and I do not know if ghosting is one of them that try and meld their playstyles.
I see quite a bit of fluff there, you responding to questions directed at you, some defense of other players, and not a whole lot of attacking/scumhunting. You want telling interactions? Go on the offensive and ask some questions.
I plan on it once prods are out and people start giving this game attention. What more can I gleam off the 6-7 active players with everyone else in the shadows? This will be a interesting mid-late day for sure. And most of my games have a bit of fluff posts, thats normal for me
@Zomg: Can you confirm that your sister still intends to play this game?
I cannot, Brin should probably prod her and find out though. Her and I are not on speaking terms at this moment, however I would not carry that into the game if she decides to still play.
This is a horrible deflection, especially on the heels of D_V confirming that he's actually claiming neutral. Why, exactly, are you voting D_V?
I am voting D_V because I don’t buy his claim at this time. I have a really hard time buying d1 neutral claims for many reasons but the biggest one is the last game we played in together (which I believe was the last game he was in) we had 2 d1 neutral claims, both ended up being legit and all but between that and my d1 neutral claim (when I was actually town) in Janken mafia I just have a hard time buying it. Like I could see any team with players from Janken/Trigger Happy + D_V throwing the neutral claim in to throw some of us that were in those games off. Sadly there are quite a few and tinfoiling at this point would probably be a waste of time.
As i recall, i was mislynched for what i did. Hince, seen as scummy. In fact, zomg was a vote on that wagon. Second to last i believe.
Why, in mafia!God's name, would you do something that forced the town to mislynch me d1 in that game.
I get that "joke" is an answer here, but you seem to have a ton of those with very little original content.
Also, you just played a game with me since. You could have done that plenty if that reason you gave me was legit.
Lastly, that vote on d_v was grossly unoriginal and helps in no way.
I do believe that answering someone elses question to another player is something scum do? (Got me mislynched)
Can someone with more of a grasp on the idea explain for the not so informed?
1) I’ve been too playful? Could you please go into detail on this? I have thoughts on this particularly but id like to see what you exactly mean first.
2) Never really had an opportunity to get you back for it, but I know that’s a scummy trait, why would I do it if I were scum?
3) I explained my vote on D_V above, if you have any further questions about it feel free to ask
I don't believe you.
Playful? Vote in scarbo after rvs, answering my question to someone else.
You say it was "revenge"
To answer number two i believe you didn't know i was being serious. Slip. "Why would scum me do that?" Yada yada. Answering my question to vaimes was bad.
No way scum you would activly get "revenge" but you weren't expecting me to take that reply seiously..
So, scum? Scum.
That vote on d_v was way too convienient, and it doesn't really take my eye of vaimes, since you DID answer his question, but i'd love to see your flip.
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Hey guys, back from New Year's and catching up as I go. It's the week before the semester starts back up so I'm also getting ready for school, but should have a decent amount of free time tomorrow and Thursday to get back to usual activity.
It's gonna be a struggle to lynch anyone toDay, tbh. Since no deadline means no incentive to be active, and everyone is lurking so you can't call out one specific person for it.
I'm probably gonna vote Hunt at some point and watch him squirm.
I'm with you there.
But for now I likw where Rodemy is going.
Long story short man, im not scum. I think they are mainly sitting back watching us bicker back and forth. You do realize how easy it is to setup a chain-lynch with me right now right? And all that before halfish of the game has even given content. At the very least lets get some posts and content in and then yall can make up your mind, but quick lynching me destroys D1 at this point, which is the most telling day in the end game, atleast for me it is
Who would be chain-lynched and why?
I was kind of hoping on more content during my absence :/
I hope Atog and Kitty come out and play soon.
Off the top of my head, this is where I stand:
Neutral: D_V
Town: Rhand, Ophidia, Rodemy, Cantripmancer
Lean town: Vaimes
Null: scarbo, kittythegoddess, Shadowlancerx, Atogoholic
Lean scum: Ghosting, Anaklusmos, Huntzilla
Scum: zomgarcwind
Some explanations:
I have stronger town-vibes from Vaimes than just a lean, but his conversation with Scarbo irks me. I think that if one of them flips scum, the other is probably scum too. The townvibes on Vaimes pulled Scarbo from lean scum to null, while the scumvibes on Scarbo pulled Vaimes from town to lean town.
I can’t remember anything from Shadow. I know he’s posted enough, so I’ll have to reread him.
For Atog, lurking is in his scum meta. But simply not posting might have a reason that is not alignment-telling at all. I hope he’s back soon so I can get a better read on him.
Anaklusmos got the scum lean carried over from red.
Huntzilla is still coasting without much content.
@Hunt: most recent town and scum games please?
"I think they are mainly sitting back watching us bicker back and forth"
What makes you think that, @zomg?
1) No penalty for doing so due to the holiday
2) It allows a prime wagon to form without their names on it
3) They cant be accused of starting the wagon
4) In all likelihood they can sit the middle of the wagon and not need to hammer
tbh if i were scum id probably wrap this up nice and tight with a bow and get my lynch done quick so that i didnt spew. Getting an early d1 scum isnt always the best play for town because there wont be alot to analyze on my flip, the exception is if im a PR scum, then it would be a good town play
Long story short man, im not scum. I think they are mainly sitting back watching us bicker back and forth. You do realize how easy it is to setup a chain-lynch with me right now right? And all that before halfish of the game has even given content. At the very least lets get some posts and content in and then yall can make up your mind, but quick lynching me destroys D1 at this point, which is the most telling day in the end game, atleast for me it is
Who would be chain-lynched and why?
At this exact moment? probably You/Rodemy, and mayyyybe cantrip. You/Rod are more "attacking" and cantrip is more "hunting" if that makes sense. So if yall lynch me and see my town flip i could see them tunnelling you, even though Rodemy is exhibiting similar behavior its within his meta and i think that would be taken into consideration. Same probably goes if i get NKd too.
I get that townies have to die to solve the game, and if i die i die, but just not this early in d1 with this little activity, my death gives the town very little to work with at this particular time. Just shelf me till the end of the day and if no one else seems scummier atleast youll have more to go off of with my flip to solve this thing
The red: Are you really saying that it's better for us to lynch town over a scum goon? And you're using that as a reason for why we shouldn't lynch you?
Why are you worried about me getting lynched if you're a mislynch? Didn't you think I was scum?
Alright, I'm definitely on the mend, I'm going to get in front of my computer this evening and dig back into this game.
Initial thoughts: I really want to lynch zomg again, but I really don't want to lynch a town!zomg again. I do think he feels different this game than others, but I am going off of memory. I'll probably read through his day one on some other games to compare.
I hate hate hate the push on a claimed neutral day one, especially without even a full ability claim. Vote Zomg I was going to hold my vote initially, but I don't think rereading him will change my mind. We'll see I guess.
This feels like panicked scum flailing, so I'm feeling pretty good about this wagon. But we still have plenty of time before deadline, so we can certainly wait to hear your actual claim, and it would really be nice to hear from Anak and Lurk City (all of them) before we decide whether to move forward or not.
But this frantic "pls shelf me for day 2; what could it hurt!!???!" plea makes me a little leery, like you have a 1-shot scum ability that you really want to use before you kick the bucket. Plus wasting an investigative ability N1. I sorta feel like lynching you saves time and frees up any investigative roles to look into someone else toNight.
Okay Rodemy let me ask u this, u r convinced im scum, its day 1, does shelfing me for day 2 lose tve game? If im telling u i can prove im town what does it hurt to let me into day 2 to prove it?
If this was late game you should be lynching and praying but this is day 1, whats it matter if u wait a day to lynch? Im still gonna be high on scumdar until I prove im town
While I agree that we shouldn't rush, this reasoning is pretty poor. All kinds of things can happen D2, and if you're already scum and going to die, lasting another day and outing the cop would be far better than just dying today.
Alright, I'm definitely on the mend, I'm going to get in front of my computer this evening and dig back into this game.
Initial thoughts: I really want to lynch zomg again, but I really don't want to lynch a town!zomg again. I do think he feels different this game than others, but I am going off of memory. I'll probably read through his day one on some other games to compare.
I hate hate hate the push on a claimed neutral day one, especially without even a full ability claim. Vote Zomg I was going to hold my vote initially, but I don't think rereading him will change my mind. We'll see I guess.
Care to unvote? Thats l-2 with multiple people that havnt posted. Scum could hammer if they wanted.
I assume yall want a claim?
Im on my phone but im Angela or Angelica or some chick name like that. I have a provable ability which is a good part of the reason im calling bull***** on d_v
Considering that's my characters name I highly doubt that.
Okay Rodemy let me ask u this, u r convinced im scum, its day 1, does shelfing me for day 2 lose tve game? If im telling u i can prove im town what does it hurt to let me into day 2 to prove it?
If this was late game you should be lynching and praying but this is day 1, whats it matter if u wait a day to lynch? Im still gonna be high on scumdar until I prove im town
While I agree that we shouldn't rush, this reasoning is pretty poor. All kinds of things can happen D2, and if you're already scum and going to die, lasting another day and outing the cop would be far better than just dying today.
Interested in your answer to Vaimes' question.
Why would the cop have to be outted if i can prove myself? He can still investigate me and keep quiet when i come back town
Wow, what? If no one comes out and claims a cop result on you at all, we should just assume that you were copped and it came back innocent? This is the perfect situation for you as scum, because it guarantees that an investigative role hits you and not your buddies, and you get to find out who in the town has a power role. Ick.
And how exactly would i have known that? I think u just had a major slip there. Out of every character of overwatch the chances of me correctly guessing your role name is complete garbage.
Why not have me roleblocked or redirected or something it would shock me if we didnt have one of those roles somewhere.
Oh, good, so not only do we waste an investigative role on you, but we focus all our efforts on stopping you so your scumbuddies run rampant.
Now I'm thinking Godfather. He gets copped, shows town, gets roleblocked/redirected, doesn't matter because he wasn't going to perform the nightkill anyway and has no activated abilities beyond his godfather status.
I checked a wiki, and there only seems to be one Angela character in the game, and there's no way scum DV counterclaim-lies in this situation just to push a lynch on an unknown town power role. Feels like a slam dunk lynch to me.
@Zomg: regarding DV counter name claiming you; if he was scum, he didn't need to counter claim you to push a lynch onto you. So the odds are much better that you screwed up a fake claim, rather than DV putting his lynch on rails if you flipped town. Like laughably better.
@Zomg: Please explain why DV, as any alignment, counter-name-claims you in this situation? I literally cannot imagine you coming up as Angela when you flip, so your open-ended question is moot.
(But I've seen plenty of interactions, so even if you got lynched right now and flipped town I wouldn't see D1 as a waste, thank you very much. You flipping scum gives me plenty to work with, too, so I'm good either way, but you flipping scum is far more likely to me at this point.)
@Zomg: How is your flip a waste in any circumstance? Either you flip scum today, or DV counter claimed for a day 1 mislynch at the cost of his own life. Like, that's a trade I'll take any day one. There is no downside to lynching you.
@Everyone else: careful not to put zomg at L-1 until we are ready for the day to end, at this point he's more than likely to self hammer to end the day.
@Zomg: How is your flip a waste in any circumstance? Either you flip scum today, or DV counter claimed for a day 1 mislynch at the cost of his own life. Like, that's a trade I'll take any day one. There is no downside to lynching you.
@Everyone else: careful not to put zomg at L-1 until we are ready for the day to end, at this point he's more than likely to self hammer to end the day.
lolz... scum!zomg would play much dirtier than this, much much much much dirtier. Ill get to your actual question tonight
If anyone else has a question just post it, ill get to everyone tonight.
Oh, so you are saying you ARE scum!zomg.
Good to know.
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Nothing too out there but I don't want to spend too long thinking and sitting idle while things happen. Takes me a bit to feel a game out then start posting more.
I fully support a zomg lynch, and assuming he flips scum Shadow is the best candidate for a bus vote. His vote screams, I don't know how to vote my scumbuddy but I need to bus so here's a vote, to me. I agree with giving everyone a chance to start posting, so withholding my vote for now so he can't self hammer.
Ghostings massive overreaction to getting two or something votes was so bad, I was amazed he wasn't lynched then and there. I understand the holidays may have played a part in his less posting after his wagon, but look at how he posted fervently when under minimal pressure, to just fading back once it was off.
Anyone have questions for me? I saw some directed at r_0 but can't answer those, sorry for taking longer than I wanted to get words down
I know you wrote more on Shadow being scum, but is he also written as null because you previously had him as null?
This list doesn't really make me feel any particular way about you; I agree with much of it (obviously not that you have me as scum, lol), but I also feel that this is pretty much what the rest of the players also think, so it could easily just be you copying the general reads right now. Could you expand on some relationships you think are present in the game right now? Or where you think we'll be day 2?
Ghostings massive overreaction to getting two or something votes was so bad, I was amazed he wasn't lynched then and there. I understand the holidays may have played a part in his less posting after his wagon, but look at how he posted fervently when under minimal pressure, to just fading back once it was off.
Why point out the change in activity, when you yourself know why that happened? I was v/la, so for you to acknowledge a reason, but go on to cast shade, is certainly not bolstering my confidence in you. Not to mention my activity while I wasn't v/la was consistent and productive before and after the wagon. Regardless, my point here is mostly that I think it's suspicious to try to use that specifically against me, especially right after providing a totally reasonable explanation for it. It comes across as you wanting to act like you aren't casting shade, but you very much so are, if that makes sense.
@Everyone else: careful not to put zomg at L-1 until we are ready for the day to end, at this point he's more than likely to self hammer to end the day.
Oh was that a VLA that you posted? Sorry I missed that, though yeah it was intuitive to figure out why I still wanted to hear it from you. You saying you would be gone would certainly explain it. Shadow is a scumread yes, that's what happens when I say things without looking over them for proofreading.
My largest point against you is your overreaction though, not your absence after.
@Anak: What your reading from me is my absolute lack of confidence to read zomg as anything but scum in games that we are both in. So my vote on him looks like I'm not sure how to vote him, because I really wasn't sure that I even wanted to vote him. I was going to read him over tonight because I would have regretted mislynching him if he was town yet again, but he's not, not after that counter claim.
@Ghosting: I think Zomg would self hammer given the chance because he's caught scum, and ending the day a week and a half before the deadline seems like the most good he can do for his team right now, especially with multiple people who haven't posted in weeks.
And the... first name and not the codename like Reaper, or Mercy... names we remember if we play overwatch...
Zomg would have had to:
Step 1. Not read the "no flavor gaming" rule.
Step 2. Think his character was a "bad guy".
Step 3. Pick mercy as his "fake claim"
Step 4. Google Mercy's first name (or he supah nerd and already knew it)
Step 5. Fake claim mercies 1st name.
when in reality all he'd have to do is say his actual characters name. (And if anyone paid attention to bri's suggestions *cough cough* d_v... we aren't flavor gaming)
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Are you saying that you're not suspicious of any of the active players? Just because there are lurkers doesn't mean you can't scumhunt from what's available. But you're still not scumhunting, just responding to the questions leveled at you and saying "durr, prods, pls".
1. Explain more what you mean by that last line?
2. Why did you claim neutral as town in Janken? (Please don't make me go read it; I don't have the time right now.)
But *I* would like to know...I asked nicely...
@Mod: Votecount, please?
"I have a hard time buying Day 1 Neutral claims but here are several examples where the Day 1 Neutral claims were legit."
Are you suggesting DV noticed that recent Neutral claims have successfully been left alone and he decided to join in on the fun as mafia?
Unvote, Vote Zomg (again) as hard as I can.
I don't believe you.
Playful? Vote in scarbo after rvs, answering my question to someone else.
You say it was "revenge"
To answer number two i believe you didn't know i was being serious. Slip. "Why would scum me do that?" Yada yada. Answering my question to vaimes was bad.
No way scum you would activly get "revenge" but you weren't expecting me to take that reply seiously..
So, scum? Scum.
That vote on d_v was way too convienient, and it doesn't really take my eye of vaimes, since you DID answer his question, but i'd love to see your flip.
Rodemy(1): Atogaholic
zomgarcwind(5): Rodemy, Rhand, D_V, Cantripmancer, Vaimes
cantripmancer(1): scarbo
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But. You. Said....
There was absolutly no reason to not answer my question.
If you don't buy a d1 neut claim, you sure as hell shouldn't be buying a d1 vt claim.
Are they different? If so, why?
Deflecting a legit question?
Please don't patronize me.
I'm not going to spend this game answering to you. Get used to it.
>:[ no.
Why should i "get used to it?"
You aren't helping. You vote cantrip and still havent given a reason.
You lied about scumreading him.
And now you are deflecting.
You are giving me a *****ty attitude and i feel like it is extremely unwarrented.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
How new and original.
What makes you think that, @zomg?
What makes you think that, @zomg?
To someone who is not Ophidia.
I love Cantrip.
Looks like Scarbo doesn’t. Weird.
I’m still very happy with a zomg lynch.
Who would be chain-lynched and why?
I was kind of hoping on more content during my absence :/
I hope Atog and Kitty come out and play soon.
Off the top of my head, this is where I stand:
Neutral: D_V
Town: Rhand, Ophidia, Rodemy, Cantripmancer
Lean town: Vaimes
Null: scarbo, kittythegoddess, Shadowlancerx, Atogoholic
Lean scum: Ghosting, Anaklusmos, Huntzilla
Scum: zomgarcwind
Some explanations:
I have stronger town-vibes from Vaimes than just a lean, but his conversation with Scarbo irks me. I think that if one of them flips scum, the other is probably scum too. The townvibes on Vaimes pulled Scarbo from lean scum to null, while the scumvibes on Scarbo pulled Vaimes from town to lean town.
I can’t remember anything from Shadow. I know he’s posted enough, so I’ll have to reread him.
For Atog, lurking is in his scum meta. But simply not posting might have a reason that is not alignment-telling at all. I hope he’s back soon so I can get a better read on him.
Anaklusmos got the scum lean carried over from red.
Huntzilla is still coasting without much content.
@Hunt: most recent town and scum games please?
The red: Are you really saying that it's better for us to lynch town over a scum goon? And you're using that as a reason for why we shouldn't lynch you?
Why are you worried about me getting lynched if you're a mislynch? Didn't you think I was scum?
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StaffInitial thoughts: I really want to lynch zomg again, but I really don't want to lynch a town!zomg again. I do think he feels different this game than others, but I am going off of memory. I'll probably read through his day one on some other games to compare.
I hate hate hate the push on a claimed neutral day one, especially without even a full ability claim.
Vote Zomg I was going to hold my vote initially, but I don't think rereading him will change my mind. We'll see I guess.
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How does your ability in any way imply that DV is lying about his alignment?
Says the guy who claimed nuet when he wasn't
I don't believe you.
I will not unvote.
But this frantic "pls shelf me for day 2; what could it hurt!!???!" plea makes me a little leery, like you have a 1-shot scum ability that you really want to use before you kick the bucket. Plus wasting an investigative ability N1. I sorta feel like lynching you saves time and frees up any investigative roles to look into someone else toNight.
While I agree that we shouldn't rush, this reasoning is pretty poor. All kinds of things can happen D2, and if you're already scum and going to die, lasting another day and outing the cop would be far better than just dying today.
Interested in your answer to Vaimes' question.
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Considering that's my characters name I highly doubt that.
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StaffWow, what? If no one comes out and claims a cop result on you at all, we should just assume that you were copped and it came back innocent? This is the perfect situation for you as scum, because it guarantees that an investigative role hits you and not your buddies, and you get to find out who in the town has a power role. Ick.
How, exactly, is this a slip for DV?
Oh, good, so not only do we waste an investigative role on you, but we focus all our efforts on stopping you so your scumbuddies run rampant.
Now I'm thinking Godfather. He gets copped, shows town, gets roleblocked/redirected, doesn't matter because he wasn't going to perform the nightkill anyway and has no activated abilities beyond his godfather status.
I checked a wiki, and there only seems to be one Angela character in the game, and there's no way scum DV counterclaim-lies in this situation just to push a lynch on an unknown town power role. Feels like a slam dunk lynch to me.
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StaffYou get lynched
Or you are the nk tonight since you are soft claiming a pr.
So, whatchya wanna claim?
What is your role.
Claim.
(But I've seen plenty of interactions, so even if you got lynched right now and flipped town I wouldn't see D1 as a waste, thank you very much. You flipping scum gives me plenty to work with, too, so I'm good either way, but you flipping scum is far more likely to me at this point.)
EWP: How is Tracker a provable role?
Where were we supposed to read between the lines?
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Staff@Everyone else: careful not to put zomg at L-1 until we are ready for the day to end, at this point he's more than likely to self hammer to end the day.
Oh, so you are saying you ARE scum!zomg.
Good to know.
How is Mercy a healer in the game a tracker here.
K.
Get lynched.
Read the intro rules.... please.
That isn't a legit read.
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StaffI'm not following you here, Mercy?
Mercys name is Angela.
He is trying to flavor game, which brin said to not do.
aayy plus townie points for this guy.
But yeah my role defiantly gives me both names.
Rod has been obvious town for ages now.
Town: Vaimes Rodemy Ophidia Cantrip
Null: Atog Scarbo Shadow Rhand
Scum: Zomg Ghosting Shadow
??:DV
Nothing too out there but I don't want to spend too long thinking and sitting idle while things happen. Takes me a bit to feel a game out then start posting more.
I fully support a zomg lynch, and assuming he flips scum Shadow is the best candidate for a bus vote. His vote screams, I don't know how to vote my scumbuddy but I need to bus so here's a vote, to me. I agree with giving everyone a chance to start posting, so withholding my vote for now so he can't self hammer.
Ghostings massive overreaction to getting two or something votes was so bad, I was amazed he wasn't lynched then and there. I understand the holidays may have played a part in his less posting after his wagon, but look at how he posted fervently when under minimal pressure, to just fading back once it was off.
Anyone have questions for me? I saw some directed at r_0 but can't answer those, sorry for taking longer than I wanted to get words down
I know you wrote more on Shadow being scum, but is he also written as null because you previously had him as null?
This list doesn't really make me feel any particular way about you; I agree with much of it (obviously not that you have me as scum, lol), but I also feel that this is pretty much what the rest of the players also think, so it could easily just be you copying the general reads right now. Could you expand on some relationships you think are present in the game right now? Or where you think we'll be day 2?
Why point out the change in activity, when you yourself know why that happened? I was v/la, so for you to acknowledge a reason, but go on to cast shade, is certainly not bolstering my confidence in you. Not to mention my activity while I wasn't v/la was consistent and productive before and after the wagon. Regardless, my point here is mostly that I think it's suspicious to try to use that specifically against me, especially right after providing a totally reasonable explanation for it. It comes across as you wanting to act like you aren't casting shade, but you very much so are, if that makes sense.
Do you think D_V and Zomg are scum together then?
If you're giving him town points, doesn't that mean you agree you shouldn't be flavour gaming Zomg?
What made you think he was going to self hammer?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
My largest point against you is your overreaction though, not your absence after.
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Staff@Ghosting: I think Zomg would self hammer given the chance because he's caught scum, and ending the day a week and a half before the deadline seems like the most good he can do for his team right now, especially with multiple people who haven't posted in weeks.
Why are you so annoyed with him?
Also, hear is an odd question: why would scum!zomg fake his name?
Bri said no flavor gaming.. and d_v seems to be doing that.
Even reassured us that his role pm gave him 2 names. To remind us that some of us have 2 names.
So why, the hell, would scum!zomg claim a fake one?
Zomg would have had to:
Step 1. Not read the "no flavor gaming" rule.
Step 2. Think his character was a "bad guy".
Step 3. Pick mercy as his "fake claim"
Step 4. Google Mercy's first name (or he supah nerd and already knew it)
Step 5. Fake claim mercies 1st name.
when in reality all he'd have to do is say his actual characters name. (And if anyone paid attention to bri's suggestions *cough cough* d_v... we aren't flavor gaming)