What are your thoughts on ophi? What you pointed out is, imo, more of a scum thing to do than town.. So why are you being so.. coachy?
I am one reply away from voting him, and am expressing how terrible I think the defense he's attempting is. I was originally reading him more as lean town, but this recent behaviour is pretty inexcusable, and unless his reply to what I just asked changes my opinion, he's getting my vote. I generally always give people a chance to reply before voting though.
Alright Ghost, I am going to rephrase this statement: Although you lean town to me, I could be wrong and you are not on the top of my town list either. Leaning town slightly does not mean that I trust you as town, since most players here are town and a slight town read can easily be mafia.
On the information part, I never mentioned in my post that "Rodemy is scum". However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?
Red Omega is currently on the top of my scum list, and I am quite uncertain about other players.
By my earlier post, I mean post #311. Forgot to add that.
Rodemy, although I did say that you can totally be scum if ghost is town, I am still uncertain if you are scum or not. If other, more experienced town members see you as town, I probably will, too.
Alright Ghost, I am going to rephrase this statement: Although you lean town to me, I could be wrong and you are not on the top of my town list either. Leaning town slightly does not mean that I trust you as town, since most players here are town and a slight town read can easily be mafia.
On the information part, I never mentioned in my post that "Rodemy is scum". However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?
Red Omega is currently on the top of my scum list, and I am quite uncertain about other players.
"You have something similar multiple times (#79, #103, #227, #231), completely unnecessarily; no one has even been near claim range. We are all aware that some people are still out for the holidays, that a few people have barely posted at all yet, and that it would be a bad idea to rush into anything;
Why do you feel the need to seem so concerned about it?"
Just as you said, because I don't want the day to end before scarbo and kitty get to post anything. Maybe it is Rodemy's aggressive attitude that leads mr to believe that Ghost is about to be lynched. Maybe it is just my laziness and a lack of things to say.
To me Ghost is slightly town, but we will have to see his role. IF he is town, however, I can totally see how Rodemy is scum,which I will explain sometime around the 30th.
On a side note, can the mod post the vote count please?
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Alright Ghost, I am going to rephrase this statement: Although you lean town to me, I could be wrong and you are not on the top of my town list either. Leaning town slightly does not mean that I trust you as town, since most players here are town and a slight town read can easily be mafia.
On the information part, I never mentioned in my post that "Rodemy is scum". However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?
Red Omega is currently on the top of my scum list, and I am quite uncertain about other players.
"You have something similar multiple times (#79, #103, #227, #231), completely unnecessarily; no one has even been near claim range. We are all aware that some people are still out for the holidays, that a few people have barely posted at all yet, and that it would be a bad idea to rush into anything;
Why do you feel the need to seem so concerned about it?"
Just as you said, because I don't want the day to end before scarbo and kitty get to post anything. Maybe it is Rodemy's aggressive attitude that leads mr to believe that Ghost is about to be lynched. Maybe it is just my laziness and a lack of things to say.
To me Ghost is slightly town, but we will have to see his role. IF he is town, however, I can totally see how Rodemy is scum,which I will explain sometime around the 30th.
On a side note, can the mod post the vote count please?
vote ophidia
That's not a lie and therefor not the gotcha you seem to think it is.
I think you're both town. You should both look elsewhere.
Rhand, do you see nothing scummy about saying .
"However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?"
WHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
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Rhand, do you see nothing scummy about saying .
"However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?"
WHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
"Rodemy is scum" and "I can see how Rodemy is scum" is not the same?
Rhand, do you see nothing scummy about saying .
"However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?"
WHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
"Rodemy is scum" and "I can see how Rodemy is scum" is not the same?
Disagree due to context. He said he would give a reason in the 30th. Sounds like a "rodemy is scum" to me.
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@Ophidia: any reason why that post should wait until the 30th?
why are you protecting him?
I get that you "see him as town" even though nothing he has done is even close to town behavior.
That entire statement he made reeka of "when ghosting flips town i am gonna turn my eyes to rodemy as scum. I see him as slightly town but i want him to be lynched so rodemy can be scum"
I am calling him out on it and you are just ademant that he isn't saying that. When everything falls into just that.
He avoided my question about why me and not lets say you... i was just backpacking your read of ghosting, so why me and not an ounce of suspicion on you?
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I know I've let myself get a little disconnected from this game, but man, Ophidia is crashing hard.
I don't tink his partners would ever let him post stuff that's /that/ terrible? Or they'd tell him to stop? Something. I'd honestly sooner believe Ophidia is Neutral.
Immediate thoughts: Rhand is likely scum if one of Rod/Ophidia is scum. Though I think they're both town, so Rhand can have townpoints for trying to break up a TvT fight.
You're not crazy, Rod. Ophidia did basically say the same exact thing, while saying he didn't mean it. Twice.
The following posts are all commentary or questions that look to progress the game, or put more simply, me doing more than "just defending myself":
215
240
256
262
265
268
273
275
Since you provided post numbers, I will take another look
215: this is before the time-frame that I am talking about
240: commenting on you own wagon & smearing your main accuser
256: I suppose this meets the bare minimum of the point you are trying to make
262: not seeing how this furthers the game, but at least you are not being defensive I guess
265: random question
268: questioning an accuser
273: repeating your previous question
275: attempt to discredit everyone suspicious of you as scumbuddies
All but 3 of those are in some way defensive. Let me be clear, I am not saying that you should not be doing these things, or that I find them scummy in and of themselves, but it does support my conclusion that you seem to have lost interest in much else. I also feel the need to point out that your list of cherry-picked posts is still a very low proportion of the posts you made during that time
I actually agree with D_V that Zomg's townread on him is certainly questionable, especially if D_V is telling the truth about his neutral claim.
Can you explain how the neutral claim is relevant to zomgarcwind's read when it happened after it?
@Cantripmancer: I have neither the time nor the desire to get into a quote war with you. If you have points to make that I have not adequately addressed, please re-post them in a concise manner and I will respond
Just as you said, because I don't want the day to end before scarbo and kitty get to post anything. Maybe it is Rodemy's aggressive attitude that leads mr to believe that Ghost is about to be lynched. Maybe it is just my laziness and a lack of things to say.
To me Ghost is slightly town, but we will have to see his role. IF he is town, however, I can totally see how Rodemy is scum, which I will explain sometime around the 30th.
You are not answering the question, just repeating. Why do you think they will not get to post anything? Why do you think one person, however aggressive, is capable of ending the day? In short, what indication do you have that there is anything to worry that much about?
It comes across more as wanting so seem worried than genuine concern
The last part of the post reads like you already know Ghosting's alignment, just not his role, and trying to set up a chain-lynch on Rodemy
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Players will not be prodded until the 3rd of January due to holidays. If someone didn't post their v/la status and is still mia come that day, they will be immediately prodded. All other situations will follow normal standards of posting once every three IRL days. I'll probably make a deadline for 2 weeks after the 3rd, maybe.
I'm going to be mostly v/la until January 2nd, so if anyone has specific questions I'll do my best to get to them, but I won't be here enough to do much else until then.
I don't have special insight into how Ophidia would or would not do something, Rod. Asking this question multiple times is not going to give you a different answer.
I'm making this assumption based on the fact that newer scum players tend to (read: not always) be more self-conscious, more careful, more neutral. They don't want to be called out for lurking, but they don't want to stick out either. And literally everything Ophidia posts has made him stick out. He started the game with a claim.
I have a hard time seeing him do that all of this as scum.
Are there new scum players who slip up a lot? Sure. Are there new scum players who power wolf hard and fool everyone? Sure. Depends on the person. I don't see Ophidia as a power wolf, nor do I see him as someone who slips up that much. This isn't his first game, he knows the general gist of what's scummy and what isn't.
It's gonna be a struggle to lynch anyone toDay, tbh. Since no deadline means no incentive to be active, and everyone is lurking so you can't call out one specific person for it.
I'm probably gonna vote Hunt at some point and watch him squirm.
@Hunt: You didn't respond to my questions in #307, and your continued lack of commitment makes me ask something similar: You now say the scum are lurking. Who do you think we should lynch (or, at least, pressure)? Why? If the scum are lurking, what is your plan for drawing them out?
I think the problem with my T/S list is we have not had a large variety of interactions. Those who have been active posters have all conversed with each other, then we have those who are ptap and not giving much, and finally we have those who are VLA. Add in the fact I was VLA for the first couple pages of interaction and wanted to have some content for you guys. I think before that T/S list i had answered maybe 2-3 questions and asked 1-2, its just not alot of interaction Compared to other games where there was a lot of interaction variety by post #300 its just a lot harder.
So... "It's not me; it's you (all)"? Your interactions feel a little lacking. If I ISO your posts, I see:
21: RVS
144: Explaining to Rhand that it's the holidays.
181: Responding to my question about the pic-vote.
193: Defending Rodemy "for usual behavior".
You never answered the question I asked in 198: Why do you feel the need to point out that you're being "honest" (in 193) about your opinion (thinking that no current wagon is going to go somewhere)?
194: Trying to get back in RVS by voting Scarbo.
242: Indication that you're rereading.
243: Call for a votecount.
257: Pretty wishywashy T/S list. Mild questions to Atog, Ghosting, and Rhand. No commitment on the vote.
You never acknowledged or followed up on your question to Ghosting. What did you glean from Ghosting's response (in 258)?
283: Asking Hunt who Smoke is.
292: Response to Rhand, one of the only posts with real content, but your "extra credit" question suggests that you aren't reading the thread (or, at least, keeping up with the conversation).
296: Response to DV attack.
297: Question to Rhand, but you immediately pull any possible punch by specifying that his action isn't alignment indicative.
299: Mild response to Rhand's vig choice explanation.
315: Responses to questions from Ghosting and me.
316: Quasi-VLA
335: Response to Rodemy's "Am I being dumb?" question, followed by a slight defense of Ophid and an "Ophid, that still looks bad" comment.
338: Attack on Scarbo (easily the easiest target in the room).
349: Response to Rodemy via answering a question for Vaimes.
I see quite a bit of fluff there, you responding to questions directed at you, some defense of other players, and not a whole lot of attacking/scumhunting. You want telling interactions? Go on the offensive and ask some questions.
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1) powerWolfing is where a scum player scum reads town like crazy and doesn’t ever even entertain the idea of his teammates being scum. Usually they avoid interactions with their teammates unless its necessary. TSTBS (Too Scummy to Be Scum) is when a player is read as town because they are just acting way to scummy to actually be scum. A wonderful example of TSTBS is me in Team Fortress 2, iso me it’s a super quick read I died day 1, I think the whole iso is like 1.25 pages.
Thanks for the lingo update. Those weren't in common usage last time I played. Thought I think I do remember people using TDTBS.
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2) #130 he starts in on Rhand, granted a lot of people were WTFing Rhand for the Rodemy thing. #139 he starts in on Omega, after this the Rhand/Rodemy mixup happened and he has been defending himself since. Note he has not cast a vote, not even an rvs vote, but he is the second highest poster. I mean cmon he’s even beating Vaimes…
So here's the thing: a player pointing out things he finds scummy but not voting *can* be scummy, but doesn't feel like trying to start a wagon. That seems like an odd thing to accuse a player of, given the nature of this game.
Alright Ghost, I am going to rephrase this statement: Although you lean town to me, I could be wrong and you are not on the top of my town list either. Leaning town slightly does not mean that I trust you as town, since most players here are town and a slight town read can easily be mafia.
On the information part, I never mentioned in my post that "Rodemy is scum". However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?
Red Omega is currently on the top of my scum list, and I am quite uncertain about other players.
"You have something similar multiple times (#79, #103, #227, #231), completely unnecessarily; no one has even been near claim range. We are all aware that some people are still out for the holidays, that a few people have barely posted at all yet, and that it would be a bad idea to rush into anything;
Why do you feel the need to seem so concerned about it?"
Just as you said, because I don't want the day to end before scarbo and kitty get to post anything. Maybe it is Rodemy's aggressive attitude that leads mr to believe that Ghost is about to be lynched. Maybe it is just my laziness and a lack of things to say.
To me Ghost is slightly town, but we will have to see his role. IF he is town, however, I can totally see how Rodemy is scum,which I will explain sometime around the 30th.
On a side note, can the mod post the vote count please?
vote ophidia
To be fair, Ophid *did* immediately clarify that for the part I made green, he was talking about #311, which doesn't mention you at all, but this whole exchange is definitely giving me reason to bump Ophid down from DefTown to LeaningTown. Noob card only goes so far.
@Cantripmancer: I have neither the time nor the desire to get into a quote war with you. If you have points to make that I have not adequately addressed, please re-post them in a concise manner and I will respond
Seriously? Did you just dismiss my entire post with a handwave of inconvenience? News flash: this game requires you to actually read (unless you're scum hoping to coast to a win). But ok, fine:
1) You're defending your /barn attack on Ophid by saying my /barns are just as bad, but yours is an attack and mine were seconding a question and seconding an opinion about another game. How do you even sorta make that comparison with a straight face? I still contest that your barn was scummy, and no, mine were not.
2) I gather that you think Ophidia is scum (not sure why I thought you thought differently); where does Rodemy fall on your T/S list?
3) In 227, when you say "As for what I learned, his answer was not very satisfactory, but I did not feel the need to press him for more as I have been drawing my own conclusions about Rodemy's towniness.", who is "his"? Why was it not very satisfactory?
4) Where do you see me "begging the question"?
5) A lot of your early posts seem to me to be lacking substance. You responded to questions asked directly of you and commented on game lingo. Do you agree that your early posts were not very content-heavy, and would you say this is standard play for you?
6) In #140, you highlight the three Vaimes' reads that you remember disagreeing with. The first one is "Huntzilla - looking better to me." It sounds like you're saying that Hunt is looking better to you (Omega), and that you already mentioned this...where did you mention it?
I'm leaving my vote on Omega, but I support pressure on either Omega or Zomg.
@Zomg: Can you confirm that your sister still intends to play this game?
It's gonna be a struggle to lynch anyone toDay, tbh. Since no deadline means no incentive to be active, and everyone is lurking so you can't call out one specific person for it.
I'm probably gonna vote Hunt at some point and watch him squirm.
I'm with you there.
But for now I likw where Rodemy is going.
It's gonna be a struggle to lynch anyone toDay, tbh. Since no deadline means no incentive to be active, and everyone is lurking so you can't call out one specific person for it.
I'm probably gonna vote Hunt at some point and watch him squirm.
I'm with you there.
But for now I likw where Rodemy is going.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
What are your thoughts on ophi? What you pointed out is, imo, more of a scum thing to do than town.. So why are you being so.. coachy?
I am one reply away from voting him, and am expressing how terrible I think the defense he's attempting is. I was originally reading him more as lean town, but this recent behaviour is pretty inexcusable, and unless his reply to what I just asked changes my opinion, he's getting my vote. I generally always give people a chance to reply before voting though.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
On the information part, I never mentioned in my post that "Rodemy is scum". However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?
Red Omega is currently on the top of my scum list, and I am quite uncertain about other players.
Rodemy, although I did say that you can totally be scum if ghost is town, I am still uncertain if you are scum or not. If other, more experienced town members see you as town, I probably will, too.
vote ophidia
Vote Rodemy
That's not a lie and therefor not the gotcha you seem to think it is.
I think you're both town. You should both look elsewhere.
Rhand, do you see nothing scummy about saying .
"However, Rodemy immediately sees my earlier post as a implication of "If Ghost is town, Rodemy is scum". Sounds a bit too self-aware, eh?"
WHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
You still haven't answered my question, i was NOT the only one pushing ghosting.
How am I scum if he flips town.
You better come up with one hell of a reason for singling me out on that wagon, or my vote stays on you the entire game until you are lynched.
For the first time ever: i am legit angry
Stepping back today. See ya tomorrow
"Rodemy is scum" and "I can see how Rodemy is scum" is not the same?
Disagree due to context. He said he would give a reason in the 30th. Sounds like a "rodemy is scum" to me.
What in that makes you think he will *not* see "a" if "b"?
@Ophidia: any reason why that post should wait until the 30th?
why are you protecting him?
I get that you "see him as town" even though nothing he has done is even close to town behavior.
That entire statement he made reeka of "when ghosting flips town i am gonna turn my eyes to rodemy as scum. I see him as slightly town but i want him to be lynched so rodemy can be scum"
I am calling him out on it and you are just ademant that he isn't saying that. When everything falls into just that.
He avoided my question about why me and not lets say you... i was just backpacking your read of ghosting, so why me and not an ounce of suspicion on you?
And this. Red omega is the top of his scum list..
Yet he votes me when he literally just said he can see me as scum if ghosting is town.
Ghosting hasn't flipped yet.
So what makes me more scum than both your top scum read and the read that if flips town, you can see me as scum?
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SAY I AM NOT BEING DUMB.
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Rhand is not scum. I agree the scum are the silent ones in the shadows.
this is good
I don't tink his partners would ever let him post stuff that's /that/ terrible? Or they'd tell him to stop? Something. I'd honestly sooner believe Ophidia is Neutral.
Immediate thoughts: Rhand is likely scum if one of Rod/Ophidia is scum. Though I think they're both town, so Rhand can have townpoints for trying to break up a TvT fight.
You're not crazy, Rod. Ophidia did basically say the same exact thing, while saying he didn't mean it. Twice.
The less you exist, the more likely you are not town.
I'll be PoE lynching you on Day 2 or 3. Friendly warning.
Hm.
Still think Ophidia wouldn't blatantly contradict himself so many times on one page as scum.
How many games have you played with ophidia?
Why don't you look through all of my games and check?
Because I'm certainly not gonna do it.
I don't think any competent human being would blatantly contradict themselves so many times on one page as scum.
@Ophidia: You should answer these questions that you "missed"
Since you provided post numbers, I will take another look
215: this is before the time-frame that I am talking about
240: commenting on you own wagon & smearing your main accuser
256: I suppose this meets the bare minimum of the point you are trying to make
262: not seeing how this furthers the game, but at least you are not being defensive I guess
265: random question
268: questioning an accuser
273: repeating your previous question
275: attempt to discredit everyone suspicious of you as scumbuddies
All but 3 of those are in some way defensive. Let me be clear, I am not saying that you should not be doing these things, or that I find them scummy in and of themselves, but it does support my conclusion that you seem to have lost interest in much else. I also feel the need to point out that your list of cherry-picked posts is still a very low proportion of the posts you made during that time
Can you explain how the neutral claim is relevant to zomgarcwind's read when it happened after it?
@Cantripmancer: I have neither the time nor the desire to get into a quote war with you. If you have points to make that I have not adequately addressed, please re-post them in a concise manner and I will respond
You are not answering the question, just repeating. Why do you think they will not get to post anything? Why do you think one person, however aggressive, is capable of ending the day? In short, what indication do you have that there is anything to worry that much about?
It comes across more as wanting so seem worried than genuine concern
The last part of the post reads like you already know Ghosting's alignment, just not his role, and trying to set up a chain-lynch on Rodemy
Who would you consider that to be?
Is that really the extent of your opinions about the game?
smoke_Killah
But you think he would as town? Can you explain the difference?
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Rodemy(2): Atogaholic, Ophidia
Atogaholic(1): D_V
red_Omega(1): Cantripmancer
Ghosting(2): Vaimes, Rhand
Ophidia(2): Rodemy, scarbo
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Players will not be prodded until the 3rd of January due to holidays. If someone didn't post their v/la status and is still mia come that day, they will be immediately prodded. All other situations will follow normal standards of posting once every three IRL days. I'll probably make a deadline for 2 weeks after the 3rd, maybe.
You seem to have a lot of insight as to what scum!ophidia would and wouldn't do.
Did you read apocolypse mafia?
I did so many similar things he has been doing as scum, including a false cc.. and i never got lynched.
What i am saying is you can't use "Tdtbs" esspecially with newer players.
So, that being said, and having never played a scumgame with ophidia, why the hell are you so insightful as to what scum!ophidia would do?
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
.-. That question wasn't to you nor yours to answer.....
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why...?
I'm making this assumption based on the fact that newer scum players tend to (read: not always) be more self-conscious, more careful, more neutral. They don't want to be called out for lurking, but they don't want to stick out either. And literally everything Ophidia posts has made him stick out. He started the game with a claim.
I have a hard time seeing him do that all of this as scum.
Are there new scum players who slip up a lot? Sure. Are there new scum players who power wolf hard and fool everyone? Sure. Depends on the person. I don't see Ophidia as a power wolf, nor do I see him as someone who slips up that much. This isn't his first game, he knows the general gist of what's scummy and what isn't.
So it's a bit more than a TDTBS handwave.
I'm probably gonna vote Hunt at some point and watch him squirm.
@vaimes. Fine.
unvote
vote zomg
I actually wasn't kidding.
So... "It's not me; it's you (all)"? Your interactions feel a little lacking. If I ISO your posts, I see:
21: RVS
144: Explaining to Rhand that it's the holidays.
181: Responding to my question about the pic-vote.
193: Defending Rodemy "for usual behavior".
You never answered the question I asked in 198: Why do you feel the need to point out that you're being "honest" (in 193) about your opinion (thinking that no current wagon is going to go somewhere)?
194: Trying to get back in RVS by voting Scarbo.
242: Indication that you're rereading.
243: Call for a votecount.
257: Pretty wishywashy T/S list. Mild questions to Atog, Ghosting, and Rhand. No commitment on the vote.
You never acknowledged or followed up on your question to Ghosting. What did you glean from Ghosting's response (in 258)?
283: Asking Hunt who Smoke is.
292: Response to Rhand, one of the only posts with real content, but your "extra credit" question suggests that you aren't reading the thread (or, at least, keeping up with the conversation).
296: Response to DV attack.
297: Question to Rhand, but you immediately pull any possible punch by specifying that his action isn't alignment indicative.
299: Mild response to Rhand's vig choice explanation.
315: Responses to questions from Ghosting and me.
316: Quasi-VLA
335: Response to Rodemy's "Am I being dumb?" question, followed by a slight defense of Ophid and an "Ophid, that still looks bad" comment.
338: Attack on Scarbo (easily the easiest target in the room).
349: Response to Rodemy via answering a question for Vaimes.
I see quite a bit of fluff there, you responding to questions directed at you, some defense of other players, and not a whole lot of attacking/scumhunting. You want telling interactions? Go on the offensive and ask some questions.
Thanks for the lingo update. Those weren't in common usage last time I played. Thought I think I do remember people using TDTBS.
So here's the thing: a player pointing out things he finds scummy but not voting *can* be scummy, but doesn't feel like trying to start a wagon. That seems like an odd thing to accuse a player of, given the nature of this game.
To be fair, Ophid *did* immediately clarify that for the part I made green, he was talking about #311, which doesn't mention you at all, but this whole exchange is definitely giving me reason to bump Ophid down from DefTown to LeaningTown. Noob card only goes so far.
And this is just textbook OMGUS.
@Ophid: What makes you think Rodemy is scum?
@Omega:
Seriously? Did you just dismiss my entire post with a handwave of inconvenience? News flash: this game requires you to actually read (unless you're scum hoping to coast to a win). But ok, fine:
1) You're defending your /barn attack on Ophid by saying my /barns are just as bad, but yours is an attack and mine were seconding a question and seconding an opinion about another game. How do you even sorta make that comparison with a straight face? I still contest that your barn was scummy, and no, mine were not.
2) I gather that you think Ophidia is scum (not sure why I thought you thought differently); where does Rodemy fall on your T/S list?
3) In 227, when you say "As for what I learned, his answer was not very satisfactory, but I did not feel the need to press him for more as I have been drawing my own conclusions about Rodemy's towniness.", who is "his"? Why was it not very satisfactory?
4) Where do you see me "begging the question"?
5) A lot of your early posts seem to me to be lacking substance. You responded to questions asked directly of you and commented on game lingo. Do you agree that your early posts were not very content-heavy, and would you say this is standard play for you?
6) In #140, you highlight the three Vaimes' reads that you remember disagreeing with. The first one is "Huntzilla - looking better to me." It sounds like you're saying that Hunt is looking better to you (Omega), and that you already mentioned this...where did you mention it?
I'm leaving my vote on Omega, but I support pressure on either Omega or Zomg.
@Zomg: Can you confirm that your sister still intends to play this game?
I may not post much between now and the 2nd.
I'm with you there.
But for now I likw where Rodemy is going.
unvote, vote zomg
Unvote, Vote Zomg
@Vaimes: Why do you think your one vote on Hunt will make him squirm?
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Oh.
Four votes in the span of like, twenty minutes, for one person.
Nonzero chance one of them is mafia.
Hey. Hey DV. Justify yourself.
Also clarify if that Neutral claim was serious or not.
Why did this post not load 15 minutes ago?
100%
Hence my play this game.
I gave you a scum remember,
I gave you my reasons.
Your choice of what you want to do.
Pushing for a lynch that ends up flipping scum is something.
Town has no incentive to leave you alone and give you a free win if you're not going to pull your weight.
Your choice.
Hey, ophi, since you wantes to claim, does your role pm say "vanilla town" or "town vanilla"?
How is me giving you a scum member not pulling my own weight?
That's like 1/4 of their team.
I did 25% of the town's work as a neutral.
NEAT.