Ehh unvote
I feel like Rod as scum is more likely to be a touch safer early than he is as town. His first several posts in Bare Bones were much softer before he delved into things. If he's scum, this isn't indicative of it.
Ehh unvote
I feel like Rod as scum is more likely to be a touch safer early than he is as town. His first several posts in Bare Bones were much softer before he delved into things. If he's scum, this isn't indicative of it.
Obv i havent learned my lesson from otg and janken.
:<
But seriously, a p1 unwarrented claim raises so many flags in my head.
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@omega: why barn Rodemy's post about ophidia but not vote?
giving the guy a chance to explain himself
No sense in piling a wagon on him in the first few hours of the game; I've never been one to throw my vote around anyway
Other things:
@Omega and Hunt: I understand that you agree with Rodemy that Ophidia shouldn't have claimed. I agree too. But what do you think of Rodemy's post itself? The tone of it?
@Omega and Hunt: I understand that you agree with Rodemy that Ophidia shouldn't have claimed. I agree too. But what do you think of Rodemy's post itself? The tone of it?
Seems a bit aggressive, but other than that, I guess I am not seeing whatever you are
@Omega and Hunt: I understand that you agree with Rodemy that Ophidia shouldn't have claimed. I agree too. But what do you think of Rodemy's post itself? The tone of it?
Seems a bit aggressive, but other than that, I guess I am not seeing whatever you are
I hadn't looked at it from a tonal perspective.
I'd say the same as smoke here. It's not pinging me the same as you, but it seems very in your face. I don't think in the forefront Rod is necessarily scum Rod. I need a little m I really, but your case makes logical sense, so town points for you.
Not so much self aware. More of confusion as to why you thought it was scummy. You had to make a case to tell me that?
Also you agreed with atog on it. So i was a little more confused that i missed something.
"Answer or get lynched"
Are you telling me you saw nothing wrong with him claiming in rvs unwarrented? I would think a veteran player such as yourself would have *some* issue with it.
Toxic linking?
You agreed with atog on how my joke with kitty was scummy.
I see two players accusing a townie of being scum for what appeared to be the same reason.
That is, in other words, a link.
Lastly.
Did you READ my last scum game? I do not have the brains for half the ***** you are accusing me of.
As for pressure
4 votes on me and not even p3 yet.
I feel like the pressure is already there.
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I know the drill, i dig into scum too much and i get lynched.
Concidering half the players havent posted yet, rhand wanting to pressure me feels off. Esspecially since, or at least i feel it, the pressure is there.
Pushing a quick lynch before you loose traction?
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@Rodemy: "fun" maybe isn't the correct word. What I mean is that your posts all had a serious sound to them. No lightness.
Talk me through your "joke" to kitty. How is that funny?
If Atog's / my read was only confusing to you, then why put so much stock in our (especially my) answer? You even voted me for it.
So you're saying that if 2 players attack someone for the same post, they are by definition aligned?
And no, I haven't read your last scumgame.
Why are you worried about a quicklynch? Do you have any idea how many votes you need to get lynched? And are you really saying I should not put pressure on my biggest scumread because there's already votes on him?
You tell them they have to tell you they are scum if they are.
Hell, if it works then sweet, noobie scum goes down and we all have a good laugh.
Ha. Haha.
No way you don't get that. No. *******. Way.
And no, i actually do not know.
I DO know 4 votes on p1 is enough for me to get nervous.
I am an easy target for mislynches. Look at otg and janken.
I use that to find scum.
Your agreeance with atog and not even saying why raises flags in my head. Pressure on a scumread is a great way to get information and find out alignment.
I don't think i wanna discuss with you anymore. I think you are scum, ergo anything i say can and will be used against me for mislynch.
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Can you (or anyone else, really) explain to me what "pocket" means?
I have an idea, but that is not terminology that I am familiar with
A good example is what shadow did to silver in bare bones.
Scum tying themselves to town. So if they flip, the townie could in theory be set up for a mislynch
Pocketing is a little bit broader. Yes, what I did to silver in Bare Bones had the intent of making us equally aligned, but pocketing itself is more about someone trying to get another person to barn/sheep them, short for putting someone in your pocket, any alignment can do it to another alignment (for instance Tom actually pocketed you with the "Hardclaim lovers with Rodemy" bit, and you were both of the same alignment.)
And Vaimes is referring to my post saying I want to town read him for his post about your age. While I think pocketing Vaimes would be awesome, and I'm sad he is denying it, it wasn't an intentional attempt. I do think Vaimes reaction to it is another point for town!vaimes, albeit a small one.
See and that's why I think you're lying. If you really believed I was scum, you would be pushing on me.
You called your vote pressure, but I'm not feeling any.
To recapitulate what I did: I thought you were scummy from the get-go, but didn't act on it because I'm a sucker for rvs tells and wanted to see more people post rvs. My reaction to Atog was to try to convince him to wait with breaking it too.
Then when it was broken anyways, I decided to make a case on you and I needed a computer for the quotes, hence me not answering why you were scummy immediately.
How does any of that make me scum?
See and that's why I think you're lying. If you really believed I was scum, you would be pushing on me.
You called your vote pressure, but I'm not feeling any.
To recapitulate what I did: I thought you were scummy from the get-go, but didn't act on it because I'm a sucker for rvs tells and wanted to see more people post rvs. My reaction to Atog was to try to convince him to wait with breaking it too.
Then when it was broken anyways, I decided to make a case on you and I needed a computer for the quotes, hence me not answering why you were scummy immediately.
How does any of that make me scum?
Because you are pushing a townie lynch for very dumb reasons.
Your tells are not indicitve of alignment (obviously. You are tunneling me)
So either you are scum or you are just really bad at finding scum.
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You are basing your scumread of me off a 5 page play while i am getting on you about a p1 rvs claim.
See where the weight is?
I joked with kitty because, believe or not, i thought of it before game. So it isnt really alignment indicative.
Explain to me why you ( AND RHAND AND ATOG) think that was scummy.
Please tell me how that stupid joke makes me scum.
Here is the thing:
I voted tordeck for completely different reasons in that game than whyni am voting you.
I swear you are refusing to remember i was the target of a quick mislynch because of it.
No i didnt "bombard" him with questions, but i did question the validity of his accusations.
Look at d1. You can clearly tell i was adement on finding out why he wasnt going after hunt.
I fought. I asked why huntzilla wasnt being questioned.
It is there.
unvote you can wait.
vote rhand
For pressure and such.
I have never had to do that before...
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I feel like Rod as scum is more likely to be a touch safer early than he is as town. His first several posts in Bare Bones were much softer before he delved into things. If he's scum, this isn't indicative of it.
Obv i havent learned my lesson from otg and janken.
:<
But seriously, a p1 unwarrented claim raises so many flags in my head.
Consequently every other game I've played with him he has been scum.
But Atogs obv scum.
Vote Atog
giving the guy a chance to explain himself
No sense in piling a wagon on him in the first few hours of the game; I've never been one to throw my vote around anyway
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I dig RVS tells. And Rodemy started off showing two in one post: not having fun and voting someone not in the game.
Both are weak tells of course, it’s only RVS. But it’s a good starting point.
The not having fun continues. He says he’s “in a mood”.
The next post is pretty dirty: He goes all condescending on the new player. The tone sounds like “don’t mess with me”.
Next he becomes self-aware, ignoring the fact that I didn’t even move my vote to him:
And then we get the gem:
Answer or get lynched. A threat. Town has no reason to throw threats around. Especially not this early in the game. This is scum threatening town.
Next he accuses Vaimes of being scummy, has some back and forth with Ophidia, and then posts this:
That’s toxic linking. Something scum loves doing.
Then this is a smear:
I did say I was going to make a case. Obviously that post would be part of it.
Other things:
@Omega and Hunt: I understand that you agree with Rodemy that Ophidia shouldn't have claimed. I agree too. But what do you think of Rodemy's post itself? The tone of it?
@D_V: why is Atog scum?
Enlighten me hunt
As much as i wanna agree with this vote, i'd like to know why.
Seems a bit aggressive, but other than that, I guess I am not seeing whatever you are
smoke_Killah
Not having fun? I am having tons.
I will tear through your other arguments later when i am not at work.
He's definitely town.
I'd say the same as smoke here. It's not pinging me the same as you, but it seems very in your face. I don't think in the forefront Rod is necessarily scum Rod. I need a little m I really, but your case makes logical sense, so town points for you.
Phone posting is ugggghhhhh
Olay!
Your read of my joke is wrong. End of story.
Not so much self aware. More of confusion as to why you thought it was scummy. You had to make a case to tell me that?
Also you agreed with atog on it. So i was a little more confused that i missed something.
"Answer or get lynched"
Are you telling me you saw nothing wrong with him claiming in rvs unwarrented? I would think a veteran player such as yourself would have *some* issue with it.
Toxic linking?
You agreed with atog on how my joke with kitty was scummy.
I see two players accusing a townie of being scum for what appeared to be the same reason.
That is, in other words, a link.
Lastly.
Did you READ my last scum game? I do not have the brains for half the ***** you are accusing me of.
As for pressure
4 votes on me and not even p3 yet.
I feel like the pressure is already there.
Maybe we'll get confetti. Or candy.
This is why i avoided birthday parties as a kid.
Yay.
Vaimes, how is him having a mentor make him town? Are you townclearing for weird reasons again?
Combined with Ophidia's frustration at never really getting to play, he's a pretty string townread.
Is this some new terminology?
smoke_Killah
Still readable.
I know the drill, i dig into scum too much and i get lynched.
Concidering half the players havent posted yet, rhand wanting to pressure me feels off. Esspecially since, or at least i feel it, the pressure is there.
Pushing a quick lynch before you loose traction?
He said eco advised against it, tho. Sooo..
I can see what you are saying, but you could also just be covering up a poor move by a scum buddy.
As Rodemy said, we should give other players time to state their opinion before hastily heading towards night.
He very obviously did not run that by Eco before posting it
What do you find town about that?
smoke_Killah
Opi, concider why i pushed you. You are calling me scum for clearly calling you out on a *****ty move.
Make three independent reasons to back up your "rodemy is scum" argument.
4. P1. Until shadow unvote p2.
Are you reading the game?
If you are that convinced that he is Mafia, why would you take his advice on that?
smoke_Killah
Can you point to me the pocket attempt?
Annnnd does that mean you think he is scum?
Can you (or anyone else, really) explain to me what "pocket" means?
I have an idea, but that is not terminology that I am familiar with
smoke_Killah
A good example is what shadow did to silver in bare bones.
Scum tying themselves to town. So if they flip, the townie could in theory be set up for a mislynch
@Rodemy: "fun" maybe isn't the correct word. What I mean is that your posts all had a serious sound to them. No lightness.
Talk me through your "joke" to kitty. How is that funny?
If Atog's / my read was only confusing to you, then why put so much stock in our (especially my) answer? You even voted me for it.
So you're saying that if 2 players attack someone for the same post, they are by definition aligned?
And no, I haven't read your last scumgame.
Why are you worried about a quicklynch? Do you have any idea how many votes you need to get lynched? And are you really saying I should not put pressure on my biggest scumread because there's already votes on him?
Thanks
smoke_Killah
You tell them they have to tell you they are scum if they are.
Hell, if it works then sweet, noobie scum goes down and we all have a good laugh.
Ha. Haha.
No way you don't get that. No. *******. Way.
And no, i actually do not know.
I DO know 4 votes on p1 is enough for me to get nervous.
I am an easy target for mislynches. Look at otg and janken.
I use that to find scum.
Your agreeance with atog and not even saying why raises flags in my head. Pressure on a scumread is a great way to get information and find out alignment.
I don't think i wanna discuss with you anymore. I think you are scum, ergo anything i say can and will be used against me for mislynch.
Pocketing is a little bit broader. Yes, what I did to silver in Bare Bones had the intent of making us equally aligned, but pocketing itself is more about someone trying to get another person to barn/sheep them, short for putting someone in your pocket, any alignment can do it to another alignment (for instance Tom actually pocketed you with the "Hardclaim lovers with Rodemy" bit, and you were both of the same alignment.)
And Vaimes is referring to my post saying I want to town read him for his post about your age. While I think pocketing Vaimes would be awesome, and I'm sad he is denying it, it wasn't an intentional attempt. I do think Vaimes reaction to it is another point for town!vaimes, albeit a small one.
You called your vote pressure, but I'm not feeling any.
To recapitulate what I did: I thought you were scummy from the get-go, but didn't act on it because I'm a sucker for rvs tells and wanted to see more people post rvs. My reaction to Atog was to try to convince him to wait with breaking it too.
Then when it was broken anyways, I decided to make a case on you and I needed a computer for the quotes, hence me not answering why you were scummy immediately.
How does any of that make me scum?
Because you are pushing a townie lynch for very dumb reasons.
Your tells are not indicitve of alignment (obviously. You are tunneling me)
So either you are scum or you are just really bad at finding scum.
From experience, tunneling town!rodemy d1 is. :>
Ophidia is town.
Rhand, I'll get to you later.
Its the arguments you are using to back that tunnel.
Was there any other reason aside from hoping to preserve yourself until post day 2 you decided to claim?
Also, I am curious about one question that Rodemy asked you, and that is "why would you think a VT claim would save you?" So what say you?