I used it because I'm probably about to die so why not?
You winning seems good since you were the most involved person in spec chat so you're the most likely to drive actual activity to this game.
but we went from 3 townies who were providing insight and analysis to 1. and voxx could have sniped me at the end there. you took a real risk of adding a scum to the thread.
I am not a SK. Dayvig SK where you have to post in thread and have a chance of getting killed every time you kill is possibly the worst role I could imagine.
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I just can't see letting Wildfire live. That was almost literally the most anti-town thing he could have done, and I'm not even considering the fact that DV flipped a Doc role. Letting him off because "scum wouldn't have been that bold" is just wrong-headed reasoning. DV was town read by "a lot" pf people. You have to credit that, even if you have nagging doubts about him that your "gut" isn't just better than everyone else. DV also had all the empowerment last night and they just missed a kill. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to assume DV had something to do with that. But WF still shot him. And did it unilaterally, in the scummiest possible way. Come on.
I'm not dropping the hammer just yet, but that's where I'm voting.
I will actually ask for 1 more empower too at this point. I think I could do something with it tonight.
This REALLY feels like a thoroughly scummy post to me. It just completely disregards any kind of context and is too basic for Town Axelrod, I think.
Also, now that we're seeing some useful role claims. If I have 2 Empowerment, I can double someone else' Empowerment. If I have 4, I can permanently give 4 to another person.
Dude, sometimes - even most of the time - the simplest explanation is, in fact, the correct explanation. What context do you think I'm disregarding?
The context where the scum team was already down a member, and WF as scum would be flatly sacrificing himself to MAYBE NK DV.
The 'simplest solution' is that WF let the power of being a Vig give him a head trip, as it so often does, and made a miraculously poor choice.
I will not lie I thought about hammering WF with my first post here
it would have been a sweet sweet coup de grace for my morning
but instead I didn't.
I should also say now that my reads this game aren't fully formed and likely won't be for another couple of Days. views i've made known in the spec chat are still largely true, namely around WF and Axel.
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
The context where the scum team was already down a member, and WF as scum would be flatly sacrificing himself to MAYBE NK DV.
The 'simplest solution' is that WF let the power of being a Vig give him a head trip, as it so often does, and made a miraculously poor choice.
why was wildfire scumreading dv though?
its just an unfathomable opinion to hold imo
You're right, it is. So is that really the excuse that you think scum WF comes up with here? Something that people are immediately just going to say 'what that is not believable, die scum'? Come on, exactly what level of WIFOM do you think he is playing on.
I would much rather lynch Axel than WF, but I'd rather lynch Anak or GJ ahead of Axel. Literally in that order. Anak, GJ, Axel. Though honestly Anak and GJ are pretty close at this point. GJ's interactions with Iso feel really bad.
yeah, i dont think i can accept not lynching wildfire
if hes town, lolhim
but if hes scum, we now know they can empower in private and he gets to kill another townie
we stopped a kill, but we still cant risk it now that wildfire killed the damn doc
he took an easy shot on tordeck just as people were starting to townread him
he "took a hero shot" on the most townread player in the game, who hed noticed my role crumbs about
how many times does he have to scummily kill a townie?
do you need another one?
2) did WF's empowerment counts match up? he gave some explanations that may or may not match reality. since he's not already dead it sounds like we didn't catch him red handed so to speak
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
That includes the Mafia NK, btw. I haven't been able to use it.
How could it include "the mafia nightkill?" Does your ability work in secret, so they don't know they've lost the ability to kill?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
That doesn't actually seem like a very good ability for 5 empower....
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
2) did WF's empowerment counts match up? he gave some explanations that may or may not match reality. since he's not already dead it sounds like we didn't catch him red handed so to speak
well i didnt know about it before
i think it did though. i empowered him d1 after softclaim, and iso and gj did at some point.
its just that if we dont lynch wildfire today, he could still kill tomorrow.
Well, that doesn't sound like something Manders is making up.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Seppel, unless I'm missing something, your ability as claimed is almost less than useless. So what was the point of your claiming neutral again? Explain your brilliant gambit for the slow kids in the class.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Well I was given a list of 16 passives so I thought the game was loaded with them. So I took that as very valuable information, and my survival was important so I chose ✂ to cut out of it especially since the first day at 🏫 for you at work right below are some of them were going
Spider dance with me on facebook or anything but the person you love him and the 💭 it was a calculated it is to make it worthwhile and then we went back to the 🎊 is tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if
Also, @Tom re: breadcrumbing DV - IDK why I'd believe anything he was feeding to you (or why you would) after he brazenly lied to you day one and tried to get you lynched over it.
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I actually really like anak today and can't see myself voting him.
Cyans striking of rolecops feels weird. That role feels like it ends up on both sides of the fence these days, and there has been at least 1 event game I know he has been in that had one.
Johnny, why did you "really like Anak" Day 2 when he was highly vocal about wanting me lynched the whole day?
How do you feel about him Today?
Wait, are you really calling me scum because I pushed for your lynch?
Pretty sure the remaining scum team is Axel, GJ, Anak.
I just don't think WF gives himself up for dead like this if he's scum, not when he could get extra kills every day. This feels 100% like a bad town play.
There are just obvious ties between Anak and GJ, Iso and GJ, etc. I'm not completely positive that Axel is the final player there, but it makes the most sense right now.
So maybe we can get around to finally lynching Anak? Pretty please?
Vote: Anak
Unfortunately, I agree that WF is almost definitely Town, albeit terrible at it. However, he is also dangerous and untrustworthy, so he should not receive any empowerment. We cannot trust him to follow along with our plans.
Looks like i have alot to read, might take me a day or two since its so long. Can i get a couple of you to summarize the game so far in a paragraph or two?
Im assuming were fine on deadline, id like my single rvs vote though.
Vote D_V for being the biggest jackass alive (still like you though!) and man i wanted my rvs to be seeppel
Please tell us how TIM came to be a Miller. If you don't know, ask Az.
That includes the Mafia NK, btw. I haven't been able to use it.
How could it include "the mafia nightkill?" Does your ability work in secret, so they don't know they've lost the ability to kill?
Asking Azrael now, but had I created the role, any Mafia players targeted by my role who tried to submit the Mafia kill would be told it failed. I'll let you know what Az says, though.
Well I was given a list of 16 passives so I thought the game was loaded with them. So I took that as very valuable information, and my survival was important so I chose ✂ to cut out of it especially since the first day at 🏫 for you at work right below are some of them were going
Spider dance with me on facebook or anything but the person you love him and the 💭 it was a calculated it is to make it worthwhile and then we went back to the 🎊 is tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if you're free tomorrow night if
Also, @Tom re: breadcrumbing DV - IDK why I'd believe anything he was feeding to you (or why you would) after he brazenly lied to you day one and tried to get you lynched over it.
Because that's D_V!! You've never played with him, so you wouldn't know that, but THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO OTHERS WITH EXPERIENCE WITH HIM.
Or ******* VOICE YOUR CONCERNS. You never once, Today, said that was bothering you. If you had before you ******* shot, we could have told you not to worry about that. Vigs who trust their gut over the will of the Town are detrimental to the Town.
Hey I just realized how hardcore Axelrod deflected.
I called his posts useless (something he can change) and he deflected by saying my ability is useless (something I can't change).
What the heck seriously.
He's been pinging all game, and it seems weird he's not considering WF just ****ed up. Yeah, either are possible, but I think this is more possible, especially since he's never played with D_V. He still deserves every bit of ire we throw at him, but we're only one Scum down. We don't need to lynch Town right now. But we also do not need to give him the ability to kill others.
cop cop cop
Also Megs is town.
And I loved reading page 5 of the spec ops thread.
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The context where the scum team was already down a member, and WF as scum would be flatly sacrificing himself to MAYBE NK DV.
The 'simplest solution' is that WF let the power of being a Vig give him a head trip, as it so often does, and made a miraculously poor choice.
its just an unfathomable opinion to hold imo
DV was obvtown from the beginning
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because he wasnt
but anyway
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it would have been a sweet sweet coup de grace for my morning
but instead I didn't.
I should also say now that my reads this game aren't fully formed and likely won't be for another couple of Days. views i've made known in the spec chat are still largely true, namely around WF and Axel.
I don't believe I ever have played with DV before, no.
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You're right, it is. So is that really the excuse that you think scum WF comes up with here? Something that people are immediately just going to say 'what that is not believable, die scum'? Come on, exactly what level of WIFOM do you think he is playing on.
Seppel, my second ability permanently removes a target players' ability to kill.
Told you it was pretty sweet. Too bad I'm as good as dead now.
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if hes town, lolhim
but if hes scum, we now know they can empower in private and he gets to kill another townie
we stopped a kill, but we still cant risk it now that wildfire killed the damn doc
he took an easy shot on tordeck just as people were starting to townread him
he "took a hero shot" on the most townread player in the game, who hed noticed my role crumbs about
how many times does he have to scummily kill a townie?
do you need another one?
1) the scum empower thing was in the OP
2) did WF's empowerment counts match up? he gave some explanations that may or may not match reality. since he's not already dead it sounds like we didn't catch him red handed so to speak
How could it include "the mafia nightkill?" Does your ability work in secret, so they don't know they've lost the ability to kill?
i think it did though. i empowered him d1 after softclaim, and iso and gj did at some point.
its just that if we dont lynch wildfire today, he could still kill tomorrow.
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if I may post the extended version of the clip I posted this morning...
(specifically around 1:27)
also, for the pottery:
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jkjk i love you both
lets lynch wildfire
Juliet stop that
HMU juliet
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I called his posts useless (something he can change) and he deflected by saying my ability is useless (something I can't change).
What the heck seriously.
No
He didn't have any reason to have claimed because you ******* killed him without ANY support from the Town.
So you won't mind confirming WF got 2 empowerment on D2, one from GJ and one from Iso? They were public, so I see no reason for you not to.
Vote: Anak
Unfortunately, I agree that WF is almost definitely Town, albeit terrible at it. However, he is also dangerous and untrustworthy, so he should not receive any empowerment. We cannot trust him to follow along with our plans.
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Wait, what changed since you said this?:
Asking Azrael now, but had I created the role, any Mafia players targeted by my role who tried to submit the Mafia kill would be told it failed. I'll let you know what Az says, though.
It doesn't specifically say, so I'm asking.
What in the hell happened here?
Because that's D_V!! You've never played with him, so you wouldn't know that, but THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO OTHERS WITH EXPERIENCE WITH HIM.
Or ******* VOICE YOUR CONCERNS. You never once, Today, said that was bothering you. If you had before you ******* shot, we could have told you not to worry about that. Vigs who trust their gut over the will of the Town are detrimental to the Town.
He's been pinging all game, and it seems weird he's not considering WF just ****ed up. Yeah, either are possible, but I think this is more possible, especially since he's never played with D_V. He still deserves every bit of ire we throw at him, but we're only one Scum down. We don't need to lynch Town right now. But we also do not need to give him the ability to kill others.
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The GJ way path to no lynching:
because thats a bull***** case.
not lynching wildfire is just leveling ourselves.
he kills townies
iso protected him
what more do you people ******* need?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
No, lynching him is just not critically thinking about the situation.
Like, if you want to revisit this after we lynch GJ, Anak, Axel and the game is still going then fine.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
'He's scum' is not the most obvious answer.
Also, you are far more likely to be scum than WF, so I don't know why you're expecting us to listen to you.
The GJ way path to no lynching: