Also, Cyan, you know as well as I do that you are perfectly capable of busing straight out the gate if your partner looks awful enough - and Anak definitely does, here. You're just annoyed I caught you for it.
Yeah I honestly don't know when the last time I bussed a scumbuddy was. We've had this conversation in the last year. Nice try.
Note how Iso's language has changed though. He's fully in damage control mode. Willing to get Anak go, as long as he can try and spin it against someone else. Like this is literally nowhere near how he acts as town.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, Cyan, you know as well as I do that you are perfectly capable of busing straight out the gate if your partner looks awful enough - and Anak definitely does, here. You're just annoyed I caught you for it.
Yeah I honestly don't know when the last time I bussed a scumbuddy was. We've had this conversation in the last year. Nice try.
Note how Iso's language has changed though. He's fully in damage control mode. Willing to get Anak go, as long as he can try and spin it against someone else. Like this is literally nowhere near how he acts as town.
You bussed Joboman off one post in Anita Blake Mafia.
I'm sure I know of more examples (the clustermug in Superhero Mafia with you and Kpaca rings a bell as well) but the Joboman bus was the most epic bus I've seen in a while.
Yes, I used to bus heavily. Back when it accomplished anything at all. But it's literally been years, and Iso and I have had in depth conversations about this.
@Iso: This is a comically pitiful effort on your part.
Yes, I used to bus heavily. Back when it accomplished anything at all. But it's literally been years, and Iso and I have had in depth conversations about this.
@Iso: This is a comically pitiful effort on your part.
Why are you ignoring where I called you a liar? Explain your lies.
Yes, I used to bus heavily. Back when it accomplished anything at all. But it's literally been years, and Iso and I have had in depth conversations about this.
@Iso: This is a comically pitiful effort on your part.
Why are you ignoring where I called you a liar? Explain your lies.
Yes, I used to bus heavily. Back when it accomplished anything at all. But it's literally been years, and Iso and I have had in depth conversations about this.
@Iso: This is a comically pitiful effort on your part.
Why are you ignoring where I called you a liar? Explain your lies.
I challenge anyone to read this and not immediately vote for Iso. Not only does this make him obvious scum, but it makes it very apparent that Anak is his scumbuddy. He is just throwing Anak under the bus, and trying to discredit me in the process, despite the fact that Anak is literally the only scum read I've expressed the entire game UNTIL I moved my vote to Iso.
Why are you lying? You literally had other Scumspects throughout the game, notably on both dead Townies:
Wild is more than just the one misrep. He has done so with just about every post of his. Probably the better choice now that I think about it. D_V pinged and I wanted to see what little pressure would do.
unvote vote Wildfire
This is like the textbook definition of 'hollow sounding mafia post'.
If Seppel's claim is fake, it's a masterful one. It's both elegant and verifiable, and makes sense as a neutral role. I'm inclined to believe it.
Agreed that Bur's response is underwhelming. Unvote, Vote Bur
You suspected two different confirmed Townies. With me being one of those, that's 3, but I believe Iso is also Town, so that's 4 out of the 6 you've voted or stated suspicion of in this game.
lol is this a serious conversation that we're having? Are you legitimately calling me a liar because I didn't remember every person I've voted in the game? Get the **** out of here.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
So, MH is scum for sure. But how many of Iso and Anak is she scum with? Definitely Anak. But maybe Iso isn't scum and she's just trying to railroad him, by pushing a lynch on me and then trying to pivot to him when I flip town?
Nah pretty sure it's all 3 of them plus some other person that I haven't worked out yet. I won't be voting for anyone other than 1 of these 3 today.
lol is this a serious conversation that we're having? Are you legitimately calling me a liar because I didn't remember every person I've voted in the game? Get the **** out of here.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
Yes, I'm serious. You used the strong language "Literally" when addressing Iso, so I called you on it. Now you're blowing it off, LIKE I KNEW YOU WOULD.
Unfortunately this is not indicative of alignment for you as you are quite known for saying whatever it takes to get someone lynched. UGH.
I still think you're Town, but you are wrong about me for sure, and I think you're wrong about Iso as well.
DV, you've never been one to read me well, so I'll not worry about you being convinced I'm Scum.
So, MH is scum for sure. But how many of Iso and Anak is she scum with? Definitely Anak. But maybe Iso isn't scum and she's just trying to railroad him, by pushing a lynch on me and then trying to pivot to him when I flip town?
Nah pretty sure it's all 3 of them plus some other person that I haven't worked out yet. I won't be voting for anyone other than 1 of these 3 today.
If I'm Scum for sure, why not vote for me? Get me lynched, Cyan.
lol is this a serious conversation that we're having? Are you legitimately calling me a liar because I didn't remember every person I've voted in the game? Get the **** out of here.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
Yes, I'm serious. You used the strong language "Literally" when addressing Iso, so I called you on it. Now you're blowing it off, LIKE I KNEW YOU WOULD.
Unfortunately this is not indicative of alignment for you as you are quite known for saying whatever it takes to get someone lynched. UGH.
I still think you're Town, but you are wrong about me for sure, and I think you're wrong about Iso as well.
DV, you've never been one to read me well, so I'll not worry about you being convinced I'm Scum.
Hahahahahaha nice backpedal. I'm not sure it would be possible for a post to sound more forced than this one. Except for maybe the one before this. Die scum, etc.
lol is this a serious conversation that we're having? Are you legitimately calling me a liar because I didn't remember every person I've voted in the game? Get the **** out of here.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
Yes, I'm serious. You used the strong language "Literally" when addressing Iso, so I called you on it. Now you're blowing it off, LIKE I KNEW YOU WOULD.
Unfortunately this is not indicative of alignment for you as you are quite known for saying whatever it takes to get someone lynched. UGH.
I still think you're Town, but you are wrong about me for sure, and I think you're wrong about Iso as well.
DV, you've never been one to read me well, so I'll not worry about you being convinced I'm Scum.
Hahahahahaha nice backpedal. I'm not sure it would be possible for a post to sound more forced than this one. Except for maybe the one before this. Die scum, etc.
Also her comment against you show how much she wanted to discredit you.
She went from hard reading Bur and Tom as scum.
To suddenly saying that you were scum because you suspected them. Ignoring the fact that she herself was attacking them.
Hell she might even be bussing you on that I'm not 100% sure on yet. But I do know that her attacks on you are incredibly disingenuous.
lol is this a serious conversation that we're having? Are you legitimately calling me a liar because I didn't remember every person I've voted in the game? Get the **** out of here.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
Yes, I'm serious. You used the strong language "Literally" when addressing Iso, so I called you on it. Now you're blowing it off, LIKE I KNEW YOU WOULD.
Unfortunately this is not indicative of alignment for you as you are quite known for saying whatever it takes to get someone lynched. UGH.
I still think you're Town, but you are wrong about me for sure, and I think you're wrong about Iso as well.
DV, you've never been one to read me well, so I'll not worry about you being convinced I'm Scum.
Hahahahahaha nice backpedal. I'm not sure it would be possible for a post to sound more forced than this one. Except for maybe the one before this. Die scum, etc.
Also her comment against you show how much she wanted to discredit you.
She went from hard reading Bur and Tom as scum.
To suddenly saying that you were scum because you suspected them. Ignoring the fact that she herself was attacking them.
Hell she might even be bussing you on that I'm not 100% sure on yet. But I do know that her attacks on you are incredibly disingenuous.
If nothing else, I'm happy to not be the only person that uses the word disingenuous.
@megs i wanted to put you higher but its just so easy to fake from spec chat without the possibility of getting lynched.
silver and proph are where they belong.
vaimes was an early scumread and then ran away scared when i called him out.
townvaimes would be all over that spec chat
also, agreeing with cyan that manders looks aligned with iso, but if he is somehow town her treatment of him does not feel like pocketing.
Nah I don't think Anak's vote means anything here in regard to Anak's alignment. He's going to make this vote on Iso whether he is town or scum. And actually, whether Iso is town or scum. It's a complete null tell.
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Okay Manders, given that you have admitted that Cyan lying can be town too, what exactly were you trying to say when calling him out? As you said, you have been calling him town all game, so what was the point of (attempting) to call out him lying, if not to call him out as scum?
Like how are you guys ignoring this in favor of the non-case on me? Speaking of, is nobody going to submit said case? Because there has been literally no reason given for anyone voting me aside from "I disagree with Iso's reads" (and when the **** does anyone ever agree with my reads, especially when I'm right?) and my wagon is a hot mess of scum. Everyone with intent to lynch me needs to go on record with why so they can be held accountable post-flip. I will NOT be an apathy lynch for people just to go "whoops guess Iso was town after all now let's go mislynch Manders".
Come at me. Lay it out for me to call you out on your garbage.
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Oh come on Iso, I started the day looking at you, and basically called you town based off PoE with Tordeck and Manders being scum. Once Tordeck flipped town, I thought you to be scum, and said so. I may not have made some big megapost saying so, but that doesn't make it opportunistic
Fine. Go explain your vote on Bur before he was lynched, where DV, you, and Tordeck voted in succession and tell me that it wasn't the most opportune time to jump on an easy mislynch. All the reasoning you gave was, look what I said based off my analysis of the first X posts Vote Bur, which come on. Explain how big megaposts once in every long while isn't a great form of active lurking, considering that it was obvious that nobody was able to really gleam a lot from them. Explain how your kill it with fire read of me isn't just an attempt to drive what you see as the easiest mislynch to avoid you dying. Explain how Tom is now suddenly town and you don't feel like telling anyone why that changed.
I can't go make a big fancy quoted post with all that in it, but those are my biggest points against you.
Yes, how silly of me to decide Bur was scum based on the first X (where X = 500) posts of the game. Practically unheard of to have a read on somebody by that point.
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What back pedal? (Learn to spell, btw.) I haven't backed off anything. Cyan DID lie in an attempt to strengthen his non-case on Iso. You ASSUMED I was saying he was Scum for it, but I said nothing of the sort.
Okay Manders, given that you have admitted that Cyan lying can be town too, what exactly were you trying to say when calling him out? As you said, you have been calling him town all game, so what was the point of (attempting) to call out him lying, if not to call him out as scum?
To point out that he's ******* bulldogging and tunnel-visioning. Duh. You know, fitting ***** to make his "case" stronger because he thinks Iso's Scum. I don't. I think Iso's Town, so I'm trying to keep him in this game.
Oh come on Iso, I started the day looking at you, and basically called you town based off PoE with Tordeck and Manders being scum. Once Tordeck flipped town, I thought you to be scum, and said so. I may not have made some big megapost saying so, but that doesn't make it opportunistic
You JUST said you started this Day calling me Scum, WHICH IS TRUE.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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What back pedal? (Learn to spell, btw.) I haven't backed off anything. Cyan DID lie in an attempt to strengthen his non-case on Iso. You ASSUMED I was saying he was Scum for it, but I said nothing of the sort.
Okay Manders, given that you have admitted that Cyan lying can be town too, what exactly were you trying to say when calling him out? As you said, you have been calling him town all game, so what was the point of (attempting) to call out him lying, if not to call him out as scum?
To point out that he's ******* bulldogging and tunnel-visioning. Duh. You know, fitting ***** to make his "case" stronger because he thinks Iso's Scum. I don't. I think Iso's Town, so I'm trying to keep him in this game.
Oh come on Iso, I started the day looking at you, and basically called you town based off PoE with Tordeck and Manders being scum. Once Tordeck flipped town, I thought you to be scum, and said so. I may not have made some big megapost saying so, but that doesn't make it opportunistic
You JUST said you started this Day calling me Scum, WHICH IS TRUE.
You're lying, too, but not as Town.
Uh then what are you saying then?
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And come on. Your point was that Cyan attacked all of these town members was it not? That was your opening Salvo attack on Cyan. Look at all these town you've attacked. When two of them you gleefully were attacking yourself. So what the hell was your point?
What back pedal? (Learn to spell, btw.) I haven't backed off anything. Cyan DID lie in an attempt to strengthen his non-case on Iso. You ASSUMED I was saying he was Scum for it, but I said nothing of the sort.
Okay Manders, given that you have admitted that Cyan lying can be town too, what exactly were you trying to say when calling him out? As you said, you have been calling him town all game, so what was the point of (attempting) to call out him lying, if not to call him out as scum?
To point out that he's ******* bulldogging and tunnel-visioning. Duh. You know, fitting ***** to make his "case" stronger because he thinks Iso's Scum. I don't. I think Iso's Town, so I'm trying to keep him in this game.
Oh come on Iso, I started the day looking at you, and basically called you town based off PoE with Tordeck and Manders being scum. Once Tordeck flipped town, I thought you to be scum, and said so. I may not have made some big megapost saying so, but that doesn't make it opportunistic
You JUST said you started this Day calling me Scum, WHICH IS TRUE.
You're lying, too, but not as Town.
Uh then what are you saying then?
Auto correct is real.
And come on. Your point was that Cyan attacked all of these town members was it not? That was your opening Salvo attack on Cyan. Look at all these town you've attacked. When two of them you gleefully were attacking yourself. So what the hell was your point?
No, my point was that he ******* lied to strengthen his "case" on Iso. Read my posts, man, they're not that long. As I've already stated, this is something Cyan does regardless of alignment when he's bulldogging and tunnelvisioning someone he believes to be Scum when he's Town, or when he's trying to mislynch someone when he's Scum.
HENCE why I asked him to explain WHY HE WAS LYING.
What back pedal? (Learn to spell, btw.) I haven't backed off anything. Cyan DID lie in an attempt to strengthen his non-case on Iso. You ASSUMED I was saying he was Scum for it, but I said nothing of the sort.
Okay Manders, given that you have admitted that Cyan lying can be town too, what exactly were you trying to say when calling him out? As you said, you have been calling him town all game, so what was the point of (attempting) to call out him lying, if not to call him out as scum?
To point out that he's ******* bulldogging and tunnel-visioning. Duh. You know, fitting ***** to make his "case" stronger because he thinks Iso's Scum. I don't. I think Iso's Town, so I'm trying to keep him in this game.
Oh come on Iso, I started the day looking at you, and basically called you town based off PoE with Tordeck and Manders being scum. Once Tordeck flipped town, I thought you to be scum, and said so. I may not have made some big megapost saying so, but that doesn't make it opportunistic
You JUST said you started this Day calling me Scum, WHICH IS TRUE.
You're lying, too, but not as Town.
Uh then what are you saying then?
Auto correct is real.
And come on. Your point was that Cyan attacked all of these town members was it not? That was your opening Salvo attack on Cyan. Look at all these town you've attacked. When two of them you gleefully were attacking yourself. So what the hell was your point?
No, my point was that he ******* lied to strengthen his "case" on Iso. Read my posts, man, they're not that long. As I've already stated, this is something Cyan does regardless of alignment when he's bulldogging and tunnelvisioning someone he believes to be Scum when he's Town, or when he's trying to mislynch someone when he's Scum.
HENCE why I asked him to explain WHY HE WAS LYING.
So the whole point of the post was to discredit Cyan because you knew it lead nowhere?
You've stated as much.
Or was it to appear active as you wait for a mis lynch?
the first couple pages of iso's iso dont do a lot
there is a fair amount of reading the player in general rather than in this game specifically
he does it with me, dv, manders, cyan to some extent, and seppel.
i want to say its just an easy way to fake scumhunting, but iso doesnt actually need an easy way to fake scumhunting so lets ignore that impulse
Being concerned with how well I can convince others IF I decide I need to convince others that AXELROD is Scum is not me being scum…it is me being me. IF Axelrod is scum and I need to prove it later, I will need all the help I can get.
If you think Axelrod is scum, I'll believe you based on the strength of your evidence rather than some nebulous "gut pinging" that's been going on since the start of the game. I still think it's far more likely that you're scum who wanted to register early suspicion in order to solidify a potential future case/vote.
Doesn't this logic only apply is Axelrod is also scum?
@isowhat do you think of this logic now that you believe axel to be scum?
Are you imploding? Never thought I'd see that happen.
I'd put my vote on you for this, alone, but I still need to go back and figure out why I thought you were town.
I mean, I liked Cyan's softbat for Manders instead of jumping on it like I'd expect scumCyan to do. As for why I think you're town, I'd have to go back and re-read to remind myself but there was something I particularly liked that you posted that made me go, "Huh, GJ might actually be town this time around."
this read is just convoluted enough to read as genuine, but if not i can see groundwork here.
if iso is, in fact, scum, there is a buddy in this post somewhere
Your logic. Unless you think Manders is just the worst scum player ever, how do you reconcile the thought that Manders would leave herself open for such a derpy attack on Axelrod later on if she weren't scum with him? By any stretch of the imagination, that would look terrible in any scenario that was NOT scumManders on scumAxel.
oh this again
and now were in the leadup to the big catchup
i asked him why it needed to be in one big post and he claims its so he can get all his thoughts on the table
hes basically promising a "solve the game all at once" post
so lets talk about that post
his anak read is that hes disengaged with current happening and is making excuses not to analyze the game
axel is disconnected and mechanical discussiony
bur is uninspired and fillery
cyan he agrees with and meta or whatever
cyth is disconnected
dv is dv
gj is eager, genuine, and relaxed
manders is excited and he agrees with her
seppel is seppel
shadow is coasting
essentially nothing is said in the sir chris section
tim he seems to think is town
his read on me is, realistically, a trainwreck.
he did show awareness earlier that he always scumreads me for minutae, but he tries anyway and it falls pretty flat
tordeckwhatever
wildfire is blank
so this is the post hes been promising
that he felt the need to put all in one post
and its just nothing.
these reads are so shallow except maybe me/cyan/manders
hes literally scumreading 5 different people for not being in tune with the game, and approximately all of them are more in tune than him or his townread cyan
Then unless you just decided you don't care about winning, there is no way you are your claimed role.
Why do you say that?
I THINK I know why...but I want to see if I do.
Because I am assuming his claim is that each person has a different passive ability only cares about living players. In other words, Iso is the last person Seppel would ever want to lynch, regardless of Iso's own alignment.
Hey I started the day calling Manders scum, this just reinforces that.
Thanks Az! Vote Iso
Like, that's pretty bad. Did I miss where Anak did something really townie?
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@tom: I made my reads as floaty and ungrounded as possible, even going so far as to not mention possible teams because I wanted to see not only who was reading my posts but also who was paying attention to the content. I even hinted at this at the start of the first post.
The point is not to read into whatever reads I ended up with - the point is to read the thought process and analysis on each player regardless of the lack of stated conclusion.
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@tom: I made my reads as floaty and ungrounded as possible, even going so far as to not mention possible teams because I wanted to see not only who was reading my posts but also who was paying attention to the content. I even hinted at this at the start of the first post.
The point is not to read into whatever reads I ended up with - the point is to read the thought process and analysis on each player regardless of the lack of stated conclusion.
so you made your big catch up post ***** on purpose and then were annoyed that no one cared about it?
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Yeah I honestly don't know when the last time I bussed a scumbuddy was. We've had this conversation in the last year. Nice try.
Note how Iso's language has changed though. He's fully in damage control mode. Willing to get Anak go, as long as he can try and spin it against someone else. Like this is literally nowhere near how he acts as town.
You're flailing because you don't want to be tied to your buddy when he flips.
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You bussed Joboman off one post in Anita Blake Mafia.
I'm sure I know of more examples (the clustermug in Superhero Mafia with you and Kpaca rings a bell as well) but the Joboman bus was the most epic bus I've seen in a while.
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@Iso: This is a comically pitiful effort on your part.
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Where did you call me a liar?
You suspected two different confirmed Townies. With me being one of those, that's 3, but I believe Iso is also Town, so that's 4 out of the 6 you've voted or stated suspicion of in this game.
Yet you've only suspected Anak and Iso.
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We can be done listening to Mander now class.
The context of what I meant, given that I was responding to Iso's big dumb fake post, was very clear. If you can't figure it out, ask one of your scumbuddies. Right after they talk you to figure out how to walk back this terrible line of attack.
DV/TIM/axel
shadow/anak
manders/seppel/megs/silver
cyth/cyan/proph
wildfire/gj
iso/vaimes
Nah pretty sure it's all 3 of them plus some other person that I haven't worked out yet. I won't be voting for anyone other than 1 of these 3 today.
Unfortunately this is not indicative of alignment for you as you are quite known for saying whatever it takes to get someone lynched. UGH.
I still think you're Town, but you are wrong about me for sure, and I think you're wrong about Iso as well.
DV, you've never been one to read me well, so I'll not worry about you being convinced I'm Scum.
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Hahahahahaha nice backpedal. I'm not sure it would be possible for a post to sound more forced than this one. Except for maybe the one before this. Die scum, etc.
I mean, it's pretty hard for you to be scum without Iso being scum. Why even rock the boat if the wagon that is bound to happen is on a townie?
Plus I don't need to do much, you're doing a great job of getting yourself lynched. Feel free to continue.
Also her comment against you show how much she wanted to discredit you.
She went from hard reading Bur and Tom as scum.
To suddenly saying that you were scum because you suspected them. Ignoring the fact that she herself was attacking them.
Hell she might even be bussing you on that I'm not 100% sure on yet. But I do know that her attacks on you are incredibly disingenuous.
To, Oh Cyan is scum because he attacked who I said is scum.
Also those have pretty much been manders only reads as well.
Funny how that works out.
If nothing else, I'm happy to not be the only person that uses the word disingenuous.
Vote MAnders
Thanks Az! Vote Iso
silver and proph are where they belong.
vaimes was an early scumread and then ran away scared when i called him out.
townvaimes would be all over that spec chat
also, agreeing with cyan that manders looks aligned with iso, but if he is somehow town her treatment of him does not feel like pocketing.
LUL someone unvote Iso please.
But, sure. Assume the worst so it'll fit into your delusion that I'm Scum.
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Nah I don't think Anak's vote means anything here in regard to Anak's alignment. He's going to make this vote on Iso whether he is town or scum. And actually, whether Iso is town or scum. It's a complete null tell.
Look at that opportunistic hop.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Come at me. Lay it out for me to call you out on your garbage.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I can't go make a big fancy quoted post with all that in it, but those are my biggest points against you.
And look at that .
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
To point out that he's ******* bulldogging and tunnel-visioning. Duh. You know, fitting ***** to make his "case" stronger because he thinks Iso's Scum. I don't. I think Iso's Town, so I'm trying to keep him in this game.
You JUST said you started this Day calling me Scum, WHICH IS TRUE.
You're lying, too, but not as Town.
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Then unless you just decided you don't care about winning, there is no way you are your claimed role.
Petition: Lynch Iso/Seppel today, empower wildfire to shoot the other tomorrow.
Partly because there is likely at least one wolf in those two
Partly because it will make Manders sad to lose both her buddies.
Partly because it will make me happy to wipe the smug look off both their faces.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Uh then what are you saying then?
Auto correct is real.
And come on. Your point was that Cyan attacked all of these town members was it not? That was your opening Salvo attack on Cyan. Look at all these town you've attacked. When two of them you gleefully were attacking yourself. So what the hell was your point?
I THINK I know why...but I want to see if I do.
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HENCE why I asked him to explain WHY HE WAS LYING.
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So the whole point of the post was to discredit Cyan because you knew it lead nowhere?
You've stated as much.
Or was it to appear active as you wait for a mis lynch?
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the first couple pages of iso's iso dont do a lot
there is a fair amount of reading the player in general rather than in this game specifically
he does it with me, dv, manders, cyan to some extent, and seppel.
i want to say its just an easy way to fake scumhunting, but iso doesnt actually need an easy way to fake scumhunting so lets ignore that impulse
@isowhat do you think of this logic now that you believe axel to be scum?
im reading this as a bus but thats all conf bias
this read is just convoluted enough to read as genuine, but if not i can see groundwork here.
if iso is, in fact, scum, there is a buddy in this post somewhere
oh this again
and now were in the leadup to the big catchup
i asked him why it needed to be in one big post and he claims its so he can get all his thoughts on the table
hes basically promising a "solve the game all at once" post
so lets talk about that post
his anak read is that hes disengaged with current happening and is making excuses not to analyze the game
axel is disconnected and mechanical discussiony
bur is uninspired and fillery
cyan he agrees with and meta or whatever
cyth is disconnected
dv is dv
gj is eager, genuine, and relaxed
manders is excited and he agrees with her
seppel is seppel
shadow is coasting
essentially nothing is said in the sir chris section
tim he seems to think is town
his read on me is, realistically, a trainwreck.
he did show awareness earlier that he always scumreads me for minutae, but he tries anyway and it falls pretty flat
tordeckwhatever
wildfire is blank
so this is the post hes been promising
that he felt the need to put all in one post
and its just nothing.
these reads are so shallow except maybe me/cyan/manders
hes literally scumreading 5 different people for not being in tune with the game, and approximately all of them are more in tune than him or his townread cyan
no wonder no one cared about/read this post
part 2 later
Because I am assuming his claim is that each person has a different passive ability only cares about living players. In other words, Iso is the last person Seppel would ever want to lynch, regardless of Iso's own alignment.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Still, in my very quick skimming, this vote kind of stood out:
Like, that's pretty bad. Did I miss where Anak did something really townie?
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@tom: I made my reads as floaty and ungrounded as possible, even going so far as to not mention possible teams because I wanted to see not only who was reading my posts but also who was paying attention to the content. I even hinted at this at the start of the first post.
The point is not to read into whatever reads I ended up with - the point is to read the thought process and analysis on each player regardless of the lack of stated conclusion.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player