I am Akemi Homura, time stopper. I can pick two players to force anything that would affect one of them to affect the other and vice versa (bus driver). I unlocked my latent when shockwave (Kazuo Kiriyama) died. It would have also triggered when Kyoko Sekino or Shoutarou Kaneda died. With my latent I can redirect a player's target to someone else. Night 1 I took no action. Last Night I redirected Proph to GJ.
Hey Everyone Can we use the following format going forward:
Role Name:
Role Alignment:
Regular Ability/Time and Place used:
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used:
So if Im correct for Scarbo this would be-
Role Name: Akemi Homura, Time Stopper
Role Alignment: Claimed Town
Reg Ability: Pick 2 players to force anything that would affect one of them to affect the other (Bus driver) Unused
Latent Ability: Redirect, Night 2 Redirected Proph To GJ
@NewName:
Can we get, like, your role name in full, your latent trigger, whether it's active or not, and your night actions? Just the word "bodyguard" isn't sufficient.
Role Name: Nanase Kuga
Role Alignment: Neutral Vanillafier
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: I can target a player at Night and vanillaize them, making them lose all of their abilities except for factional/unlockable abilities. I win when no one in the game has abilities aside from factional/unlockable abilities. I tried to target Shockwave but I was redirected to DV due to DV's ability on Night 1. I tried to target NewName last Night but I got redirected to scarbo on N2.
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: I can choose to make myself untargetable (including kills) for the Night. Have not used.
I am Akemi Homura, time stopper. I can pick two players to force anything that would affect one of them to affect the other and vice versa (bus driver). I unlocked my latent when shockwave (Kazuo Kiriyama) died. It would have also triggered when Kyoko Sekino or Shoutarou Kaneda died. With my latent I can redirect a player's target to someone else. Night 1 I took no action. Last Night I redirected Proph to GJ.
Hey Everyone Can we use the following format going forward:
Role Name:
Role Alignment:
Regular Ability/Time and Place used:
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used:
So if Im correct for Scarbo this would be-
Role Name: Akemi Homura, Time Stopper
Role Alignment: Claimed Town
Reg Ability: Pick 2 players to force anything that would affect one of them to affect the other (Bus driver) Unused
Latent Ability: Redirect, Night 2 Redirected Proph To GJ
Does that look correct scarbo?
I'm really good with the innan lynch.
I don't know, how many redirect/ascetic effects does the town have?
Well, whats kinda interesting is that Bus Driver was unlocked when Roleblocker/Jailer/whatever was killed. I wonder if some of these triggers (the ones that mention specific characters) are being used as a means of keeping certain powers in the game after the original users die.
For example, scarbo would have gotten the same role if Kyoko Sekino or Shoutarou Kaneda died. So those two are probably some variant of a Roleblocker/Redirector as well.
So based on the claims (Scarbo and Cythere) we probably have several groups of three with similar powers.
I'll go ahead and claim while we wait since my role is basically fully known at this point anyway.
Role Name: The Puppet Master (from Ghost in the Shell! )
Role Alignment: Neutral
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Merge, it lets me make anyone as perfect as my character, meaning they get their latent ability unlocked.
Latent Trigger: Pre-game it was unlocked because my character's perfect.
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: I used it night one, we already know this and went over it. I have not used it since then, although I probably will tonight because I'm sure scum want me dead at some point (although maybe not, who knows). It redirects any abilities directed at me to a player of my choice.
@GJ: If it makes you feel any better, I think you're like maybe lean scum at this point? I've been scumreading you less and INANN/Scarbo more, but you're still on my radar. Not that I really care what happens besides me winning and seeing if my reads are right at all.
Role Name: Friend (20th Century boys )
Role Alignment: Town
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Doublevoter
Latent Ability trigger: After first non-mafia lynch.
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: I can move my second vote independently from the first. I.e. vote multiple people
I hadn't known I couldn't split my votes until the latent triggered... my stupidity. No night actions.
Role name: Shoutarou Kaneda
Role alignment: Town
Regular ability/Time and Place used: Red Motorbike (Tracker). I can target a person and see whether or not they visited anyone. I don't get told whom. Tracked Mindreaver Night 1; used Kosa's scanner on DV Night 2.
Latent Ability/Time and Place used: Unlocked if I live to the end of Day 2, but Ghosting unlocked it early. I can track someone and see whom they visit. Haven't used it yet.
I know we are popcorning it but I wanted to mention the fact that there was NO push back from the mass claim idea. I mean, we usually have SOME detractors. That feels incredibly odd to me.
I know we are popcorning it but I wanted to mention the fact that there was NO push back from the mass claim idea. I mean, we usually have SOME detractors. That feels incredibly odd to me.
I thought the same thing, it was kind of weird that the mass claim was so fluidly enacted.
I know we are popcorning it but I wanted to mention the fact that there was NO push back from the mass claim idea. I mean, we usually have SOME detractors. That feels incredibly odd to me.
I have thoughts.
I'm waiting for mass claim at this point.
We should keep convo to a minimum while it goes through.
Role name: Dr. Atsuko Chiba/Paprika
Role alignment: Town Vanilla
Latent unlocked when Arsené Lupin III died
Latent ability: Enter the Dream 1-shot - Target one player and see who has targeted them over the course of the game (basically a modified watcher ability).
I targeted Gentleman Johnny last night, these people have targeted him (I've added with what from extrapolation):
Prophylaxis - Redirected vanilla shot
Scarbo - Redirect
Shadowlancerx - Enter the dream
Shockwave - role block (this confirms GJ as town)
Silvercrys - no sure but GJ confirmed it was good
Scarbo was honest about his ability claim/use, so basically the only lingering question I have once claims are done is why? He did say he would talk about this, so we are on the same page.
I am also a filthy bastard who used 65 fusings and got a 6L on a 750 es chest piece #bejealous
As much as I love melee, it's so obnoxious that es +ghost reaver + vaal pact is just eons safer and stronger.
My assumption is that VP and ES are getting hella nerfed next xpac. Also probs path finder, and maybe vinktars as well. I still stand by the idea that Vinktars is balanced and the engine breaking that flask is the op one but what evsss.
Role name: Kyoko Sekino (Uzumaki)
Role alignment: Town Duelist
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Look at me!(Make a player target me) Used ghosting n1 got redirected to proph, Unable to use again
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: Unknown, unlocks when two "Non mafia players" are lynched.
I am also a filthy bastard who used 65 fusings and got a 6L on a 750 es chest piece #bejealous
As much as I love melee, it's so obnoxious that es +ghost reaver + vaal pact is just eons safer and stronger.
My assumption is that VP and ES are getting hella nerfed next xpac. Also probs path finder, and maybe vinktars as well. I still stand by the idea that Vinktars is balanced and the engine breaking that flask is the op one but what evsss.
Role name: Kyoko Sekino (Uzumaki)
Role alignment: Town Duelist
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Look at me!(Make a player target me) Used ghosting n1 got redirected to proph, Unable to use again
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: Unknown, unlocks when two "Non mafia players" are lynched.
How did you feel about taunt being nerfed mid-seasons?
ES isn't broken in my opinion. Everything else defensive wise just sucks, so GGG should either nerf monster damage and VP/GR or buff armor and evasion to make it actually worth it to stack life.
I'll actually claim confidently due to Silver being pretty lock town.
Nine (Terror in Resonance)
Blah blah flavor:
Abilities:
Cop Database: Rolecop a player's latent ability
Latent Trigger: When "cop database" fails to activate.
FBI Database: Rolecop a player's latent ability AND any abilities they have or had.
N1: Shock (failed)
N2: Mindreaver and DV. I can confirm both are telling the truth, and that Mindreaver's X = 1. Neither are lying about the wording of their abilities.
I'm Sakae Jinnouchi from Summer Wars, Town 0-Shot Motivator
My ability is called Phone Call of Encouragement. I can target a player during the night phase and give them an extra shot of their ability if they have an x-shot ability. If they do not have an x-shot ability, they can use their ability twice that night.
My latent (A Dire Situation) unlocked when we lynched Cythare (first non-mafia player) and it gave me a single shot of Phone Call.
I called GJ last night and now have zero shots remaining.
So, I thought I actually had a scum caught, because Mind's ability was member of the town, and DV's was "non-mafia lynch". But since there have been multiple of each ability, I think I can exclude that.
I actually expected scumScarbo to lie about his ability, but I'm still very interested in why he protected INANN. Granted, I still feel better about an INANN lynch then a Scarbo lynch, and if INANN flips scum I'm very interested in taking an even harder look at Scarbo. Unvote Vote INANN
So, I thought I actually had a scum caught, because Mind's ability was member of the town, and DV's was "non-mafia lynch". But since there have been multiple of each ability, I think I can exclude that.
I actually was misrepresenting my ability in hopes that the mafia would feel it was safe to say lynch two town.
I'll look at all the claims later see if anything Pops out.
so you might recall my adamant scum read on GJ early in the game. I sort of let go of that out of fear I was tunneling and he wasn't pinging other people's scumdars. But then towards the end of yesterDay I got a weird feeling about his reaction towards kosa. He waffled between "kosa is pretty lock town" to "kosa is lock town" to "kosa could be pulling one on us." It was apparent kosa was town, so why keep bringing it up? But I didn't remember shockwave blocked him.
Regarding INANN, I don't know man it's like where's the scum motivation? This was what really struck me. I couldn't fathom it coming from scum.
Regarding INANN, I don't know man it's like where's the scum motivation? This was what really struck me. I couldn't fathom it coming from scum.
Eh. Do you mean motivation for arguing against a no-lynch here when he was the leading wagon for a lynch? Or just motivation in general. Because I can see scum at that point wanting somebody dead, and then pushing Cythere's mislynch. That's not really that complicated a plan.
I need more time than I have right now to take a closer look at claims and such.
But I'm a little worried that no one seems to even be considering that NewName might be telling the truth.
Are we just that comfortable declaring he's a liar, or what?
Actually, we should be able to use GJ to confirm his role.
If GJ targets him, and he targets GJ, either GJ dies and we lynch him, or he dies and it's not an issue, or GJ confirms him as bodyguard.
I guess there could be someone with a strongman they didn't claim or something.
Or scum!scarbo could redirect NewName's bodyguard.
Anyway, time for my question.
@shadow:
Your latent trigger just says Lupin III's name, right?
1) GJ asked for protection. We know from the claims so far every single person that targeted him. The "bodyguard" didn't. But the mafia roleblocker did.
2) That "survive until day 4" is the only latent of it's kind. At least of what we know so far. I don't see anyone else with a "survive to day X" trigger. It's also too much of a coincidence that it's day 3 right now.
If I wanted to speculate further, I would say it's possible he has a trigger than names a specific person dying. Probably that name has been revealed, and now he knows if that person dies tonight, he can say "see, my trigger triggered on day 4. Too bad about <town player on the ground> though." Or it possible he has another trigger entirely, and he just knows it can be fulfilled tonight.
@Silver yes.
It does not say he's town. I assumed he was though, someone else said earlier what my thought process was, how town unlocking abilities when a scum died would seem like a really rough swing.
As far as INANN, I don't doubt that he could actually be a bodyguard, but in this setup I'd believe that a scum bodyguard could be a thing. In general I find him scummy because of his lack of presence and then that one word claim, only to come back significantly later to claim a little better, but still hasn't talked about his actions.
I could see using GJ's ability on him if we don't lynch him today, that just raises the question of who would you rather go after at this point?
@Scarbo
I did forget that you were hard scum reading GJ, so that does make a little more sense to me. What do you make of INANN's lurking/empty posting if he is town then?
@Zomg
Thoughts on Scarbo currently? If you couldn't vote Scarbo, who do you go for at this point? You made a comment at the end of day two about looking some people over, care to share?
@INANN
Can you do me a favor and go through your thought process with this game so far? You're basically radio silent except for your claim, and that was devoid of any personality. Who do you think is scum?
Guys something's not adding up...
Why would we have a 1 shot Miller person and absolutely no true cops? UNVOTE
Zomg, please describe your role in detail again.
Am I missing someone's ability to cop?
Yes, I read that, I want you to clarify, because just reading above, I wouldn't assume you had the same ability you claimed at the start of day 2.
"1-shot mason, used on Tom" is very different then
"1-shot mason; 1-shot to go visit someone in the night".
What is that ability called?
I'm really good with the innan lynch.
@NewName:
Can we get, like, your role name in full, your latent trigger, whether it's active or not, and your night actions? Just the word "bodyguard" isn't sufficient.
Role Alignment: Neutral Vanillafier
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: I can target a player at Night and vanillaize them, making them lose all of their abilities except for factional/unlockable abilities. I win when no one in the game has abilities aside from factional/unlockable abilities. I tried to target Shockwave but I was redirected to DV due to DV's ability on Night 1. I tried to target NewName last Night but I got redirected to scarbo on N2.
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: I can choose to make myself untargetable (including kills) for the Night. Have not used.
I don't know, how many redirect/ascetic effects does the town have?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
For example, scarbo would have gotten the same role if Kyoko Sekino or Shoutarou Kaneda died. So those two are probably some variant of a Roleblocker/Redirector as well.
So based on the claims (Scarbo and Cythere) we probably have several groups of three with similar powers.
how about that win con
Role Alignment: Town
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Doublevoter
Latent Ability trigger: After first non-mafia lynch.
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: I can move my second vote independently from the first. I.e. vote multiple people
I hadn't known I couldn't split my votes until the latent triggered... my stupidity. No night actions.
Pretty boring role actually.
Jackarito
ZOMG
Shadow
DV
Silver
GJ
Vaimes
Jack
zomg
shadow
D_V
Silver
GJ
I think? Actually, zomg already claimed, I guess.
Claim incoming.
Role alignment: Town
Regular ability/Time and Place used: Red Motorbike (Tracker). I can target a person and see whether or not they visited anyone. I don't get told whom. Tracked Mindreaver Night 1; used Kosa's scanner on DV Night 2.
Latent Ability/Time and Place used: Unlocked if I live to the end of Day 2, but Ghosting unlocked it early. I can track someone and see whom they visit. Haven't used it yet.
I thought the same thing, it was kind of weird that the mass claim was so fluidly enacted.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
I have thoughts.
I'm waiting for mass claim at this point.
We should keep convo to a minimum while it goes through.
DV
Silver
GJ
See Chimes Mafia for an example of a massclaim breaking the game at this point.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Role name: Dr. Atsuko Chiba/Paprika
Role alignment: Town Vanilla
Latent unlocked when Arsené Lupin III died
Latent ability: Enter the Dream 1-shot - Target one player and see who has targeted them over the course of the game (basically a modified watcher ability).
I targeted Gentleman Johnny last night, these people have targeted him (I've added with what from extrapolation):
Prophylaxis - Redirected vanilla shot
Scarbo - Redirect
Shadowlancerx - Enter the dream
Shockwave - role block (this confirms GJ as town)
Silvercrys - no sure but GJ confirmed it was good
Scarbo was honest about his ability claim/use, so basically the only lingering question I have once claims are done is why? He did say he would talk about this, so we are on the same page.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
As much as I love melee, it's so obnoxious that es +ghost reaver + vaal pact is just eons safer and stronger.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
her highness personal bodyguard
town aligned
latent ability unlocks if I live till day 4, don't know it.
How about who you've been targeting and protecting the last two nights? Obviously not Tom and Kosa.
Just answer the second question until the end. I do like this fire coming from you though, Mind.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
My assumption is that VP and ES are getting hella nerfed next xpac. Also probs path finder, and maybe vinktars as well. I still stand by the idea that Vinktars is balanced and the engine breaking that flask is the op one but what evsss.
Role name: Kyoko Sekino (Uzumaki)
Role alignment: Town Duelist
Regular Ability/Time and Place used: Look at me!(Make a player target me) Used ghosting n1 got redirected to proph, Unable to use again
Latent Ability/Time and Place Used: Unknown, unlocks when two "Non mafia players" are lynched.
How did you feel about taunt being nerfed mid-seasons?
ES isn't broken in my opinion. Everything else defensive wise just sucks, so GGG should either nerf monster damage and VP/GR or buff armor and evasion to make it actually worth it to stack life.
I'll actually claim confidently due to Silver being pretty lock town.
Nine (Terror in Resonance)
Blah blah flavor:
Abilities:
Cop Database: Rolecop a player's latent ability
Latent Trigger: When "cop database" fails to activate.
FBI Database: Rolecop a player's latent ability AND any abilities they have or had.
N1: Shock (failed)
N2: Mindreaver and DV. I can confirm both are telling the truth, and that Mindreaver's X = 1. Neither are lying about the wording of their abilities.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
My ability is called Phone Call of Encouragement. I can target a player during the night phase and give them an extra shot of their ability if they have an x-shot ability. If they do not have an x-shot ability, they can use their ability twice that night.
My latent (A Dire Situation) unlocked when we lynched Cythare (first non-mafia player) and it gave me a single shot of Phone Call.
I called GJ last night and now have zero shots remaining.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Unvote Vote INANN
I actually was misrepresenting my ability in hopes that the mafia would feel it was safe to say lynch two town.
I'll look at all the claims later see if anything Pops out.
Regarding INANN, I don't know man it's like where's the scum motivation? This was what really struck me. I couldn't fathom it coming from scum.
I need more time than I have right now to take a closer look at claims and such.
But I'm a little worried that no one seems to even be considering that NewName might be telling the truth.
Are we just that comfortable declaring he's a liar, or what?
Actually, we should be able to use GJ to confirm his role.
If GJ targets him, and he targets GJ, either GJ dies and we lynch him, or he dies and it's not an issue, or GJ confirms him as bodyguard.
I guess there could be someone with a strongman they didn't claim or something.
Or scum!scarbo could redirect NewName's bodyguard.
Anyway, time for my question.
@shadow:
Your latent trigger just says Lupin III's name, right?
1) GJ asked for protection. We know from the claims so far every single person that targeted him. The "bodyguard" didn't. But the mafia roleblocker did.
2) That "survive until day 4" is the only latent of it's kind. At least of what we know so far. I don't see anyone else with a "survive to day X" trigger. It's also too much of a coincidence that it's day 3 right now.
If I wanted to speculate further, I would say it's possible he has a trigger than names a specific person dying. Probably that name has been revealed, and now he knows if that person dies tonight, he can say "see, my trigger triggered on day 4. Too bad about <town player on the ground> though." Or it possible he has another trigger entirely, and he just knows it can be fulfilled tonight.
It does not say he's town. I assumed he was though, someone else said earlier what my thought process was, how town unlocking abilities when a scum died would seem like a really rough swing.
As far as INANN, I don't doubt that he could actually be a bodyguard, but in this setup I'd believe that a scum bodyguard could be a thing. In general I find him scummy because of his lack of presence and then that one word claim, only to come back significantly later to claim a little better, but still hasn't talked about his actions.
I could see using GJ's ability on him if we don't lynch him today, that just raises the question of who would you rather go after at this point?
@Scarbo
I did forget that you were hard scum reading GJ, so that does make a little more sense to me. What do you make of INANN's lurking/empty posting if he is town then?
@Zomg
Thoughts on Scarbo currently? If you couldn't vote Scarbo, who do you go for at this point? You made a comment at the end of day two about looking some people over, care to share?
@INANN
Can you do me a favor and go through your thought process with this game so far? You're basically radio silent except for your claim, and that was devoid of any personality. Who do you think is scum?
I am, I've just unlocked my latent and used it already.
Why would we have a 1 shot Miller person and absolutely no true cops?
UNVOTE
Zomg, please describe your role in detail again.
Am I missing someone's ability to cop?
Are you like super busy or something?
"1-shot mason, used on Tom" is very different then
"1-shot mason; 1-shot to go visit someone in the night".
What is that ability called?