listen. i think DV is town and kosa is scum. im obviously not sure, but thats my opinion.
but more important than that, they are good information lynches as everyone has thoughts on them.
i already made a list of how their respective alignments effects my view on other players.
so what exactly is the problem with me liking the wagons?
yes im cool with DV dying.
if he were to flip town theres almost zero chance his wagon is pure.
and if im wrong and hes scum several people are clear AND we lynched scum.
sounds like a win/win
i can definitely see making the same argument for my lynch.
im not scum, but if i was kosa would be lock town and yall would have to look pretty hard at the people ive cleared (i think thats gj, DV, huntzilla at this point)
and i assume my town flip would make you guys feel obligated to lynch kosa because my gut is super good.
But..but..
You have DV cleared. The information for Kosa would be infinitely more useful to you. Only if you think you are wrong would DV would he ever make sense as a lynch. Information or not, you don't lynch people you think are town.
Tom (and I remember seeing someone else also hinting at this) is pushing too hard the "oh there's no way they both are town, the probability is too small" line. This reeks as an attempt to chainlynch.
Then Cyt also joins the wagon after saying he couldn't switch votes.
Tom has been cagey most of this game, using a great deal is causal statements. I think if we really want an information lynch, that's where we need to go. And I believe we have a decent chance at hitting scum too.
Tom (and I remember seeing someone else also hinting at this) is pushing too hard the "oh there's no way they both are town, the probability is too small" line. This reeks as an attempt to chainlynch.
Then Cyt also joins the wagon after saying he couldn't switch votes.
I'll reread the game.
1). When both primary wagons are voting each other, typically means at least one of them is a scum wagon.
2). I am the other person who said that. I also said I don't think you are both scum.
3). I want excuses to vote Cythare, but he did say he wouldn't switch until he reread the game.
You're scumreading your entire wagon. And trying to sell them as buddies.
That's pure OMGUS.
I almost guarantee that Ghosting is not the only non-mafia player on you. That doesn't make any sense.
Though I doubt you'd do that as scum. So you have that going for you.
You're scumreading your entire wagon. And trying to sell them as buddies.
That's pure OMGUS.
I almost guarantee that Ghosting is not the only non-mafia player on you. That doesn't make any sense.
Though I doubt you'd do that as scum. So you have that going for you.
**** it. Both of these wagons suck.
vote: INeedANewName
You're right.
Kosa has to be town then because the other two are Obv scum with how this is going.
[quote from="Kosakosa »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/forum-games/mafia/757305-trigger-happy-havoc-mafia-day-1-new-world-order?comment=678"]1). When both primary wagons are voting each other, typically means at least one of them is a scum wagon.
2). I am the other person who said that. I also said I don't think you are both scum.
3). I want excuses to vote Cythare, but he did say he wouldn't switch until he reread the game.
1) Yeah, but there's enough V/LA people to cast doubt on whether the wagons are stalled because D_V is scum or because we're both town and scum is afraid of committing to a wagon that won't happen due to the impending deadline.
2) Fair enough.
3) I see that. I thought she said she couldn't switch votes but actually she can't unvote. I retract my statement.
The way you stated that last sentence was odd, though. You were the one telling me yesterday to push my scumspects, make cases blahblah. Why are you waiting for an excuse to vote Cyt instead of, you know, casing and voting her if she's scum to you?
You have DV cleared. The information for Kosa would be infinitely more useful to you. Only if you think you are wrong would DV would he ever make sense as a lynch. Information or not, you don't lynch people you think are town.
bruh. i dont want DV lynched.
i just like the wagon.
im not sure how else to say it.
[quote from="Kosakosa »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/forum-games/mafia/757305-trigger-happy-havoc-mafia-day-1-new-world-order?comment=678"]1). When both primary wagons are voting each other, typically means at least one of them is a scum wagon.
2). I am the other person who said that. I also said I don't think you are both scum.
3). I want excuses to vote Cythare, but he did say he wouldn't switch until he reread the game.
1) Yeah, but there's enough V/LA people to cast doubt on whether the wagons are stalled because D_V is scum or because we're both town and scum is afraid of committing to a wagon that won't happen due to the impending deadline.
2) Fair enough.
3) I see that. I thought she said she couldn't switch votes but actually she can't unvote. I retract my statement.
The way you stated that last sentence was odd, though. You were the one telling me yesterday to push my scumspects, make cases blahblah. Why are you waiting for an excuse to vote Cyt instead of, you know, casing and voting her if she's scum to you?
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1. I am not thinking too much about the stalled wagons. Those people had enough time to post, save for Shock's replacement who is catching up apparently.
2. Indeed
3). I did make a decent case for Cythare. I Isoed her posts, showed some statements, she responded. Literally not a person said anything about our back and forth. I don't think I can force Cythare through today.
No seriously. It's on this page.
652&653
I like almost everyone that has joined me on kosa. You and dv are town. I'm pretty meh on jack, but vaimes was kinda into it too.
DV wagon is all neutrals and people in my poe. Interesting, no?
What if DV was right all along about mind reaver? but how do I reconcile that against his constant verbosity about mechanics Starting discussion but never giving insight or analysis. Like what was the point of all those posts? And most importantly dv never followed up on mindreaver. and the ghosting thing he just let fall off to the side or something. So yeah I question toms read on DV the whole conviction thing smells funny to me. ?_?
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
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even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
Not me. For [reasons]. It's actually one of the reasons I don't think he's scum. Not a strong one, granted, but it's circumstantial evidence if you will.
But more importantly, one of the leading wagons unvoted his counterwagon to put yours in contention after I voted you to protest both wagons. Wagons are 4-3-3. So... thoughts on your wagon?
What if DV was right all along about mind reaver? but how do I reconcile that against his constant verbosity about mechanics Starting discussion but never giving insight or analysis. Like what was the point of all those posts? And most importantly dv never followed up on mindreaver. and the ghosting thing he just let fall off to the side or something. So yeah I question toms read on DV the whole conviction thing smells funny to me. ?_?
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
eh. i think dv is town, but that doesnt really lead me to believe hes right more often than throwing darts at the playerlist.
you seem to like meta. would you like me to link you to the dozen plus times ive towncleared people based on mindset as both alignments?
ive cleared huntzilla like 4 times, with perfect accuracy btw. being able to read DV is pretty new, but i feel good about it.
i read people as town when others cant. its my thing.
if you want to question it, show me his scum mindset.
or keeping throwing inexplicable shade at townreads and get lynched. thats fine too.
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
Not me. For [reasons]. It's actually one of the reasons I don't think he's scum. Not a strong one, granted, but it's circumstantial evidence if you will.
But more importantly, one of the leading wagons unvoted his counterwagon to put yours in contention after I voted you to protest both wagons. Wagons are 4-3-3. So... thoughts on your wagon?
poor gameplay, desperation, or just going with the flow? idk. Not much to say if your vote was really just to make competing wagons nothing to analyze. Admittedly I didn't notice the vaimes vote. I'll go look at it.
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What if DV was right all along about mind reaver? but how do I reconcile that against his constant verbosity about mechanics Starting discussion but never giving insight or analysis. Like what was the point of all those posts? And most importantly dv never followed up on mindreaver. and the ghosting thing he just let fall off to the side or something. So yeah I question toms read on DV the whole conviction thing smells funny to me. ?_?
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
eh. i think dv is town, but that doesnt really lead me to believe hes right more often than throwing darts at the playerlist.
you seem to like meta. would you like me to link you to the dozen plus times ive towncleared people based on mindset as both alignments?
ive cleared huntzilla like 4 times, with perfect accuracy btw. being able to read DV is pretty new, but i feel good about it.
i read people as town when others cant. its my thing.
if you want to question it, show me his scum mindset.
or keeping throwing inexplicable shade at townreads and get lynched. thats fine too.
Inexplicable shade? Those are fighting words. Your town read on DV is based on DVs conviction. reading through the day again I noticed DV hasn't been all that set in stone on a particular person. so I question your read and alignment for it.
and I'm not done reading the five games that you gave me. I don't like meta but apparently that is the language of this forum so why fight it.
And if you're asking for his scum mindset then your read is a poor one based on incomplete information. As a meta read would have to consistent of comparing and contrasting.
and as far as getting lynched you say it like it is something to be afraid of.
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What if DV was right all along about mind reaver? but how do I reconcile that against his constant verbosity about mechanics Starting discussion but never giving insight or analysis. Like what was the point of all those posts? And most importantly dv never followed up on mindreaver. and the ghosting thing he just let fall off to the side or something. So yeah I question toms read on DV the whole conviction thing smells funny to me. ?_?
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
eh. i think dv is town, but that doesnt really lead me to believe hes right more often than throwing darts at the playerlist.
you seem to like meta. would you like me to link you to the dozen plus times ive towncleared people based on mindset as both alignments?
ive cleared huntzilla like 4 times, with perfect accuracy btw. being able to read DV is pretty new, but i feel good about it.
i read people as town when others cant. its my thing.
if you want to question it, show me his scum mindset.
or keeping throwing inexplicable shade at townreads and get lynched. thats fine too.
Inexplicable shade? Those are fighting words. Your town read on DV is based on DVs conviction. reading through the day again I noticed DV hasn't been all that set in stone on a particular person. so I question your read and alignment for it.
and I'm not done reading the five games that you gave me. I don't like meta but apparently that is the language of this forum so why fight it.
And if you're asking for his scum mindset then your read is a poor one based on incomplete information. As a meta read would have to consistent of comparing and contrasting.
and as far as getting lynched you say it like it is something to be afraid of.
well, you sort of explained it.
though im not sure you know what conviction means.
tell me, who would you look at next if DV were to flip town?
kosa?
I don't like making assocations pre-flip. RN I'm looking at mindreaver and that guy who voted me to make a competing wagon has wandered into my radar as well. Kosa I haven't been paying much attention to him.
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@NewName:
You should never want to be lynched.
You're either scum in which case being lynched is bad.
Or you're town and the only person who is confirmed town to you.
Lynching confirmed town is no bueno.
Ergo being lynched as town is bad.
Also, I didn't put your wagon in contention.
I put at +2 because I hate the other wagons.
D_V pushed himself ahead by unvoting Kosa and voting you instead.
Which put your wagon even with his and made you a viable lynch.
It's a risky move as either alignment on his part.
And he should probably switch back to Kosa to self-pres if your wagon doesn't gain traction.
But I think scum!D_V would have kept tunneling Kosa. Maybe.
And there's nothing to look at with respect to Vaimes' vote
He voted Soren early to prod him and left it on you because of a questionable post you made.
@NewName:
You should never want to be lynched.
You're either scum in which case being lynched is bad.
Or you're town and the only person who is confirmed town to you.
Lynching confirmed town is no bueno.
Ergo being lynched as town is bad.
Also, I didn't put your wagon in contention.
I put at +2 because I hate the other wagons.
D_V pushed himself ahead by unvoting Kosa and voting you instead.
Which put your wagon even with his and made you a viable lynch.
It's a risky move as either alignment on his part.
And he should probably switch back to Kosa to self-pres if your wagon doesn't gain traction.
But I think scum!D_V would have kept tunneling Kosa. Maybe.
And there's nothing to look at with respect to Vaimes' vote
He voted Soren early to prod him and left it on you because of a questionable post you made.
@Everyone:
A vote for NewName is a vote for scum.
Vote for scum.
Vote NewName.
true you caught me I'm scum. how you did that voted me and then made a incredibly flimsy and contrived reason to keep your vote on me. I respect it.
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true you caught me I'm scum. how you did that voted me and then made a incredibly flimsy and contrived reason to keep your vote on me. I respect it.
See? He admitted it!
Seriously though. You're not really defending yourself. You came into the thread with a wagon and ignored it (or didn't notice it?) until I brought it up. There is no reason for my vote, except I didn't like the other wagons and I like Vaimes.
But your reactions are the only reason I need to keep my vote on you. Sarcastically claiming scum isn't going to make me move my vote.
true you caught me I'm scum. how you did that voted me and then made a incredibly flimsy and contrived reason to keep your vote on me. I respect it.
See? He admitted it!
Seriously though. You're not really defending yourself. You came into the thread with a wagon and ignored it (or didn't notice it?) until I brought it up. There is no reason for my vote, except I didn't like the other wagons and I like Vaimes.
But your reactions are the only reason I need to keep my vote on you. Sarcastically claiming scum isn't going to make me move my vote.
defend myself against what exactly? You said the reason for you vote is because you like vaimes, then say I'm scum because I don't care about whether I am lynched then reiterate you initial reason for voting me and discard the previous reason.
admittedly I am having trouble with interpreting your extremely poor play. What are you trying to accomplish here? And why should I believe a vote to simply hop on someone because you like them is town motivated when there is plethora of posts to look at and determine who to look at next.
I also am having difficulty seeing this sort of nonsense from scum.
You mention the possibility of moving your vote from me which I find incredibly odd since fypov I'm scum.
hmmmm actually ignore all that.
what would it take to get you to move your vote off of me?
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Sorry guys, I'm just bad. No excuse. Other games, work busy, kid, etc etc.
Thoughts:
Still getting a bad vibe from Silver.
Love GJ right now. Never lynching him. Bringing up my absence as a scum tactic like that, when there are so many other juicy targets, is just not-scum. Town trying to figure it out.
Tom is more engaged then I've ever seen him. I mean, no robot voice/gifs/silly posts. He's either the towniest, or trying some new tricks.
omg i set of my fire alarm. sec
Sorry guys, I'm just bad. No excuse. Other games, work busy, kid, etc etc.
Thoughts:
Still getting a bad vibe from Silver.
Love GJ right now. Never lynching him. Bringing up my absence as a scum tactic like that, when there are so many other juicy targets, is just not-scum. Town trying to figure it out.
Tom is more engaged then I've ever seen him. I mean, no robot voice/gifs/silly posts. He's either the towniest, or trying some new tricks.
omg i set of my fire alarm. sec
This is a fluff post to say I laughed really hard at this.
Sorry guys, I'm just bad. No excuse. Other games, work busy, kid, etc etc.
Thoughts:
Still getting a bad vibe from Silver.
Love GJ right now. Never lynching him. Bringing up my absence as a scum tactic like that, when there are so many other juicy targets, is just not-scum. Town trying to figure it out.
Tom is more engaged then I've ever seen him. I mean, no robot voice/gifs/silly posts. He's either the towniest, or trying some new tricks.
omg i set of my fire alarm. sec
can we quick lynch this?
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I don't really trust my read on a lot of the newer faces, but here goes:
I found my self nodding my head with zomg's posts quite a bit. Even the not-so-popular ones.
I really like INeedANewName.
Jack and Shadow I'm null on.
Scarbo raises so red flags.
As far as a lynch in the next 24 hours, I could go for D_V. I know that's the cool stance, but whatevs. I could also do Vaimes (SAY WHAT!?!). Not interested in killing Kosa. I don't get the same feeling as Star Trek, and maybe that's because he's scum this game, but for now, I'm comfortable leaving him alive.
what would it take to get you to move your vote off of me?
Talk to and/or about someone besides D_V and tom. You've made some, like soft question-type things at GJ and Huntz and you made one post to Kosa. But you've been pretty focused on D_V and tom. Talk to and about some other people. Tell us what you think about Mindreaver or something. There's like 17 people in the game you've only talked to three of them at length (well, four now I guess).
Sorry guys, I'm just bad. No excuse. Other games, work busy, kid, etc etc.
Thoughts:
Still getting a bad vibe from Silver.
Love GJ right now. Never lynching him. Bringing up my absence as a scum tactic like that, when there are so many other juicy targets, is just not-scum. Town trying to figure it out.
Tom is more engaged then I've ever seen him. I mean, no robot voice/gifs/silly posts. He's either the towniest, or trying some new tricks.
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I don't really trust my read on a lot of the newer faces, but here goes:
I found my self nodding my head with zomg's posts quite a bit. Even the not-so-popular ones.
I really like INeedANewName.
Jack and Shadow I'm null on.
Scarbo raises so red flags.
As far as a lynch in the next 24 hours, I could go for D_V. I know that's the cool stance, but whatevs. I could also do Vaimes (SAY WHAT!?!). Not interested in killing Kosa. I don't get the same feeling as Star Trek, and maybe that's because he's scum this game, but for now, I'm comfortable leaving him alive.
What is so townie about NewName?
What is redflagging you on Scarbo?
Why lynch Vaimes?
Why is D_V scum as opposed to just D_V?
what would it take to get you to move your vote off of me?
Talk to and/or about someone besides D_V and tom. You've made some, like soft question-type things at GJ and Huntz and you made one post to Kosa. But you've been pretty focused on D_V and tom. Talk to and about some other people. Tell us what you think about Mindreaver or something. There's like 17 people in the game you've only talked to three of them at length (well, four now I guess).
Why didn't you just ask? this was incredibly fruitless. or maybe not. instead of thinking about player 1 think about player 2. I'm new and nervous and shy (not really). I did come in at around page 10 so my presence is not as noticeable and haven't had the rapport of starting from page 1. and I'm willing to bet some of the player list has only interacted with 4 people only :/.
was that really your goal? to get me to talk to others? it's a very roundabout way of doing it.
I suppose this is just another instance of town does insane things.
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Why didn't you just ask? this was incredibly fruitless. or maybe not.
was that really your goal? to get me to talk to others? it's a very roundabout way of doing it.
I suppose this is just another instance of town does insane things.
Not really the goal, no. I wanted a counterwagon to D_V and Kosa because I think they're town and you didn't really look townie. That was the goal. But if you're town, I need you to speak up so I can see you and look elsewhere for a counterwagon. Or at least dump your reads into the thread so I can use them to find scum later if you get lynched.
instead of thinking about player 1 think about player 2. I'm new and nervous and shy (not really). I did come in at around page 10 so my presence is not as noticeable and haven't had the rapport of starting from page 1. and I'm willing to bet some of the player list has only interacted with 4 people only :/.
This sounds so pure though. And you're right, there probably are other players that haven't interacted widely. But you had a vote on you from someone I'm townreading so you seemed like a good counterwagon.
There is no way the mafia doesn't try to kill me. Call me as conceited as you want, but bodyguard/doctor me please. If I were scum, I would just start shooting the most active players.
Silver goes up in GJ town stock
Newname has a lot of fire, and I need to read when I am less sleepy to know if it is good or bad fire.
Ultimate town test: Pretend the top post didn't happen, and acknowledge it tonight. I get a special treat if I am ever targeted by a mafia ability and I am still alive.
That left a bad taste in my mouth though. What does that mean? like wtf. lol.
Sorry.
I'm not trying to make you feel bad, it's only a game and we're here to have fun. As much fun as we can around our other responsibilities anyway. I'll let you do your thing and give the thread some breathing room for a while.
D_V: Mainly, I don't think scum!D_V would have unvoted to push you even with the leading wagons. Especially if Kosa was town. And I doubt they're aligned. But there's also some little stuff like... his role. [redacted-mod gaming] so I think it's more plausible as town than scum. He could have lied about it, I guess, but I think that role probably exists in the game and is town. I don't think scum!D_V would omgus his entire wagon. He was more careful than that in StarTrek from what I recall.
Kosa: His posting style got him run up on D1 of StarTrek. It would have gotten him lynched except for the fact that someone literally hard claimed scum and he claimed in an odd way at start of D2 (in StarTrek). But read him correctly and I think he's town again. I can't really explain it, but the way he posts... it's essentially what tom was saying about "conviction" from D_V. If he's scum, lolme, but yeah. His reads are questionable, but I believe that he believes in them. They don't seem made up or "fake" to me.
A) no unless you want to confess to being scum and knowing otherwise
B) it's day 1. I still haven't figured out why people like to draw this ***** out to the deadline and leave a whole bunch of uninformed garbage to sift through at end-game. I don't think silver has a chance of being lynched today, but I'm putting my thoughts on the record. Beats the hell out of these low-effort DV and kosa wagons. I mean really just like, read or something.
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But..but..
You have DV cleared. The information for Kosa would be infinitely more useful to you. Only if you think you are wrong would DV would he ever make sense as a lynch. Information or not, you don't lynch people you think are town.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Then people won't be able to use meta to lynch me.
It is pretty pathetic that "DV Meta" is the only argument against me and that's it. Most of the players using it are much more skilled than that.
After that vote Cyth is totally scum.
So our scum team now consists of
Cyth, Kosa and INANN
unvote
Tom (and I remember seeing someone else also hinting at this) is pushing too hard the "oh there's no way they both are town, the probability is too small" line. This reeks as an attempt to chainlynch.
Then Cyt also joins the wagon after saying he couldn't switch votes.
I'll reread the game.
Vote Tom
1). When both primary wagons are voting each other, typically means at least one of them is a scum wagon.
2). I am the other person who said that. I also said I don't think you are both scum.
3). I want excuses to vote Cythare, but he did say he wouldn't switch until he reread the game.
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You're scumreading your entire wagon. And trying to sell them as buddies.
That's pure OMGUS.
I almost guarantee that Ghosting is not the only non-mafia player on you.
That doesn't make any sense.
Though I doubt you'd do that as scum. So you have that going for you.
**** it. Both of these wagons suck.
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You're right.
Kosa has to be town then because the other two are Obv scum with how this is going.
I think anyways that's my immediate reaction.
Unvote Vote IneedaNewName
1) Yeah, but there's enough V/LA people to cast doubt on whether the wagons are stalled because D_V is scum or because we're both town and scum is afraid of committing to a wagon that won't happen due to the impending deadline.
2) Fair enough.
3) I see that. I thought she said she couldn't switch votes but actually she can't unvote. I retract my statement.
The way you stated that last sentence was odd, though. You were the one telling me yesterday to push my scumspects, make cases blahblah. Why are you waiting for an excuse to vote Cyt instead of, you know, casing and voting her if she's scum to you?
i just like the wagon.
im not sure how else to say it. interesting you dont like the vote, as i think its scummiest in a world where youre scum youll get used to it.
newname wagon is interesting. and will probably make vaimes happy.
ill think about it.
1. I am not thinking too much about the stalled wagons. Those people had enough time to post, save for Shock's replacement who is catching up apparently.
2. Indeed
3). I did make a decent case for Cythare. I Isoed her posts, showed some statements, she responded. Literally not a person said anything about our back and forth. I don't think I can force Cythare through today.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Are you saying you like all the people on Kosa and DV? I assume you are also ok with the people voting Kosa, or you yourself wouldn't be voting him.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
No. Read my posts.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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I like almost everyone that has joined me on kosa. You and dv are town. I'm pretty meh on jack, but vaimes was kinda into it too.
DV wagon is all neutrals and people in my poe. Interesting, no?
What if DV was right all along about mind reaver? but how do I reconcile that against his constant verbosity about mechanics Starting discussion but never giving insight or analysis. Like what was the point of all those posts? And most importantly dv never followed up on mindreaver. and the ghosting thing he just let fall off to the side or something. So yeah I question toms read on DV the whole conviction thing smells funny to me. ?_?
even his unlocking ability makes me raise an eyebrow.
But more importantly, one of the leading wagons unvoted his counterwagon to put yours in contention after I voted you to protest both wagons. Wagons are 4-3-3. So... thoughts on your wagon?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
you seem to like meta. would you like me to link you to the dozen plus times ive towncleared people based on mindset as both alignments?
ive cleared huntzilla like 4 times, with perfect accuracy btw. being able to read DV is pretty new, but i feel good about it.
i read people as town when others cant. its my thing.
if you want to question it, show me his scum mindset.
or keeping throwing inexplicable shade at townreads and get lynched. thats fine too.
poor gameplay, desperation, or just going with the flow? idk. Not much to say if your vote was really just to make competing wagons nothing to analyze. Admittedly I didn't notice the vaimes vote. I'll go look at it.
Inexplicable shade? Those are fighting words. Your town read on DV is based on DVs conviction. reading through the day again I noticed DV hasn't been all that set in stone on a particular person. so I question your read and alignment for it.
and I'm not done reading the five games that you gave me. I don't like meta but apparently that is the language of this forum so why fight it.
And if you're asking for his scum mindset then your read is a poor one based on incomplete information. As a meta read would have to consistent of comparing and contrasting.
and as far as getting lynched you say it like it is something to be afraid of.
though im not sure you know what conviction means.
tell me, who would you look at next if DV were to flip town?
kosa?
You should never want to be lynched.
You're either scum in which case being lynched is bad.
Or you're town and the only person who is confirmed town to you.
Lynching confirmed town is no bueno.
Ergo being lynched as town is bad.
Also, I didn't put your wagon in contention.
I put at +2 because I hate the other wagons.
D_V pushed himself ahead by unvoting Kosa and voting you instead.
Which put your wagon even with his and made you a viable lynch.
It's a risky move as either alignment on his part.
And he should probably switch back to Kosa to self-pres if your wagon doesn't gain traction.
But I think scum!D_V would have kept tunneling Kosa. Maybe.
And there's nothing to look at with respect to Vaimes' vote
He voted Soren early to prod him and left it on you because of a questionable post you made.
@Everyone:
A vote for NewName is a vote for scum.
Vote for scum.
Vote NewName.
true you caught me I'm scum. how you did that voted me and then made a incredibly flimsy and contrived reason to keep your vote on me. I respect it.
Seriously though. You're not really defending yourself. You came into the thread with a wagon and ignored it (or didn't notice it?) until I brought it up. There is no reason for my vote, except I didn't like the other wagons and I like Vaimes.
But your reactions are the only reason I need to keep my vote on you. Sarcastically claiming scum isn't going to make me move my vote.
D_V (3) - Ghosting, INeedANewName, Cythare
Kosakosa (3) - tomsloger, , Gentleman Johnny, Jackrito
INeedANewName (3) - Vaimes, Silvercrys3467, D_V
scarbo (1) - Prophylaxis
Tomsloger (1) - shadowlancerx
No Lynch (1) - scarbo
Not Voting (5) - Shockwave08, zomgarcwind, Mindreaver, Huntzilla, Kosakosa
V/LA:s
Vaimes - during weekends
Vaimes and Mindreaver have been prodded.
With 17 alive, it's 9 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, October 7th, at 11:59 PM EST.
Request a lot of prods?
defend myself against what exactly? You said the reason for you vote is because you like vaimes, then say I'm scum because I don't care about whether I am lynched then reiterate you initial reason for voting me and discard the previous reason.
admittedly I am having trouble with interpreting your extremely poor play. What are you trying to accomplish here? And why should I believe a vote to simply hop on someone because you like them is town motivated when there is plethora of posts to look at and determine who to look at next.
I also am having difficulty seeing this sort of nonsense from scum.
You mention the possibility of moving your vote from me which I find incredibly odd since fypov I'm scum.
hmmmm actually ignore all that.
what would it take to get you to move your vote off of me?
Thoughts:
Still getting a bad vibe from Silver.
Love GJ right now. Never lynching him. Bringing up my absence as a scum tactic like that, when there are so many other juicy targets, is just not-scum. Town trying to figure it out.
Tom is more engaged then I've ever seen him. I mean, no robot voice/gifs/silly posts. He's either the towniest, or trying some new tricks.
omg i set of my fire alarm. sec
can we quick lynch this?
I don't really trust my read on a lot of the newer faces, but here goes:
I found my self nodding my head with zomg's posts quite a bit. Even the not-so-popular ones.
I really like INeedANewName.
Jack and Shadow I'm null on.
Scarbo raises so red flags.
As far as a lynch in the next 24 hours, I could go for D_V. I know that's the cool stance, but whatevs. I could also do Vaimes (SAY WHAT!?!). Not interested in killing Kosa. I don't get the same feeling as Star Trek, and maybe that's because he's scum this game, but for now, I'm comfortable leaving him alive.
What is redflagging you on Scarbo?
Why lynch Vaimes?
Why is D_V scum as opposed to just D_V?
Why didn't you just ask? this was incredibly fruitless. or maybe not. instead of thinking about player 1 think about player 2. I'm new and nervous and shy (not really). I did come in at around page 10 so my presence is not as noticeable and haven't had the rapport of starting from page 1. and I'm willing to bet some of the player list has only interacted with 4 people only :/.
was that really your goal? to get me to talk to others? it's a very roundabout way of doing it.
I suppose this is just another instance of town does insane things.
This sounds so pure though. And you're right, there probably are other players that haven't interacted widely. But you had a vote on you from someone I'm townreading so you seemed like a good counterwagon.
Silver goes up in GJ town stock
Newname has a lot of fire, and I need to read when I am less sleepy to know if it is good or bad fire.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I'm not trying to make you feel bad, it's only a game and we're here to have fun. As much fun as we can around our other responsibilities anyway. I'll let you do your thing and give the thread some breathing room for a while.
I'd like to know why you want to lynch me, though. Is it because you can't kill me and GJ in the same night?
Ok, really taking a break now. Promise.
Back in morning with real post.
8 hrs from now
D_V: Mainly, I don't think scum!D_V would have unvoted to push you even with the leading wagons. Especially if Kosa was town. And I doubt they're aligned. But there's also some little stuff like... his role. [redacted-mod gaming] so I think it's more plausible as town than scum. He could have lied about it, I guess, but I think that role probably exists in the game and is town. I don't think scum!D_V would omgus his entire wagon. He was more careful than that in StarTrek from what I recall.
Kosa: His posting style got him run up on D1 of StarTrek. It would have gotten him lynched except for the fact that someone literally hard claimed scum and he claimed in an odd way at start of D2 (in StarTrek). But read him correctly and I think he's town again. I can't really explain it, but the way he posts... it's essentially what tom was saying about "conviction" from D_V. If he's scum, lolme, but yeah. His reads are questionable, but I believe that he believes in them. They don't seem made up or "fake" to me.
Meta is a dangerous rabbithole.
We rely on it too much anyway. Especially when so many of us are aware of our own.
Unvote
Vote: silvercrys
Scarbo you going to play or just one line lurk?
B) it's day 1. I still haven't figured out why people like to draw this ***** out to the deadline and leave a whole bunch of uninformed garbage to sift through at end-game. I don't think silver has a chance of being lynched today, but I'm putting my thoughts on the record. Beats the hell out of these low-effort DV and kosa wagons. I mean really just like, read or something.