Mindreavers PBP of Shock made me feel good about him being town.
Kpaca has contributed nothing at all. Like, you aren't even trying.
I wanna lynch him.
vote NFAY
Care to explain what about that post made you feel good about mindreaver?
As for NFAY, why is uselessness scummy?
And for that matter, kpaca may be the most useful in that grouping. So why him over the sugar and spice net zero that is DV and tordeck?
I don't particularly disagree that we might have to lynch some lurkers, but this is strange coming from you.
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Curiosity killed the cat. But for awhile, I was a suspect.
@NaG, are you interested in my thoughts on that? Or just want Tordeck's?
Just tordeck's actually.
You've already voted for the proposal and preemptively blamed me for the result. That stands on its own.
Sounds good. I'm going to lay my thought process out eventually, I just didn't want to ruin Tordeck's response for you, if that was all you were really interested in.
Mindreavers PBP of Shock made me feel good about him being town.
Kpaca has contributed nothing at all. Like, you aren't even trying.
I wanna lynch him.
vote NFAY
Care to explain what about that post made you feel good about mindreaver?
As for NFAY, why is uselessness scummy?
And for that matter, kpaca may be the most useful in that grouping. So why him over the sugar and spice net zero that is DV and tordeck?
I don't particularly disagree that we might have to lynch some lurkers, but this is strange coming from you.
He has contributed absolutley NOTHING to the game.
Still ok with lynching D_V, his input into this game has been nil, he's even admitted to being 100% disengaged from the game. His last post was two days ago where he said he was "back".
@NaG, are you interested in my thoughts on that? Or just want Tordeck's?
Just tordeck's actually.
You've already voted for the proposal and preemptively blamed me for the result. That stands on its own.
On a re-read of this, explain how I've preemptively blamed you for the result? Because I agreed that we should keep an eye on the person proposing? Because yeah, scum would LOVE to be the ones driving the conversation, and yeah, you WILL share some blame if we see town on the ground.
Now, I won't be holding you responsible for ANY outcome. If Shock dies, and ends up being town, I wouldn't point the finger at you. I genuinely think Shockwave is scum and I agree with Hunt's sentiment at the end of the day, he can argue a case. So it wouldn't be "easy" for shockwave to actually get hunt killed. If Hunt does die, flip town, and I don't hear a damn good reason from dk, then you and he are suspicious. Because it's a result I don't expect. And as I said to Tordeck, I don't quite know how to PoE you three if hunt is dead town on the ground. If DK dies, I've got a similar problem (where you might be complict, but I think we chew through hunt/shock first, since they were told not to kill him.
On the other hand, if these guys kill scum, you get a lot of towncred from me. If there is a dead shockwave on the floor, or a dead hunt, I'll be the first one to say I was wrong about you and that I can't see scum putting a partner at risk like that. It'd be a tough gamble.
But you should know all that, when you proposed this. You share in the glory, or you share in the failure.
By mod laziness fiat, I'm leaving all votes on proposals which contained someone in phascogale (except on phascogale, natch) where they were. You can keep voting for those proposals, they just can't be passed.
Still ok with lynching D_V, his input into this game has been nil, he's even admitted to being 100% disengaged from the game. His last post was two days ago where he said he was "back".
Vote:DV.spl
So why not Kpaca? He fits almost the exact same critera.
I was actually leaning toward Huntzilla going in, but he posted an angry rant about Seppel always thinking he's scum that sounded genuine, while Shockwave just made a couple posts that sounded defeatist and disappeared. Maybe he assumed I was going to lynch him since I did push him ITT, but it looked like caught scum clamming up.
On another note... in light of Shock's flip, I'm not a fan of Mindreaver's PBP post, especially the way he painted Shock's reads as poor without any explanation.
On another note... in light of Shock's flip, I'm not a fan of Mindreaver's PBP post, especially the way he painted Shock's reads as poor without any explanation.
Just because he's town, doesn't mean his reads weren't bad :). Also, in light of the flip, show me the scum motivation for that post?
I'm still re-reading a bit, because this result wasn't what I expected. But I don't think many of his "reads" (Seppel, Rodemy, Me, Megs) are even on my radar now. Tordeck is, and Hunt's involvement here is somewhat suspicious, but that's all (IMHO).
I'd like to hear from Hunt, to make sure his version of that QT jives with yours. But if shcok didn't defend himself, I'd be surprised (especially since he posted all about "I'm gonna spam the crap out of that QT thread"). I mean, it wasn't like he inactive in this thread.
My top suspects at the moment, are Tordeck and Nykllor, for those responses to the flip.
NaG's proposal did exactly what it was supposed to do, gather information.
My thought process here is something along these lines:
Town is dead, so it's POSSIBLE that some of Hunt, DK, NaG is scum.
I don't think all of them are. I'd be very surprised to have the whole scum team involved in the first kill. Especially since we don't think there was scumchat to coordinate.
I'm trying to figure out how to isolate those three, or at least try and tie them to the next proposal/flip. I've toyed with having a similar proposal to NaG's, with NaG/Hunt as the kingmaker. Or going with a Hunt/DK proposal. Something, so that we can correlate outcomes.
But if shcok didn't defend himself, I'd be surprised (especially since he posted all about "I'm gonna spam the crap out of that QT thread"). I mean, it wasn't like he inactive in this thread.
IIRC, he only said he was going to spam the QT if both the other players were scum.
As for scum motivation for your post, an attempt to sway me while the QT is going on? To be frank, I can't find town motivation for doing a PBP of someone who is already on the chopping block when those in this thread have no bearing on the outcome.
As for scum motivation for your post, an attempt to sway me while the QT is going on? To be frank, I can't find town motivation for doing a PBP of someone who is already on the chopping block when those in this thread have no bearing on the outcome.
Fair enough. That would mean that I'm scum, and my partner is Hunt right? Unless I'm missing the mark completely. Do you think that is likely?
From my perspective, I'd been promising that thing for a while, and not meeting those goals. I could have either sat on my opinion until I knew the outcome, or shared it prior to the outcome. I think if I was scum, knowing Shockwave would flip town, I would have played that differently (something similar to Seppel's 311).
As for scum motivation for your post, an attempt to sway me while the QT is going on? To be frank, I can't find town motivation for doing a PBP of someone who is already on the chopping block when those in this thread have no bearing on the outcome.
Fair enough. That would mean that I'm scum, and my partner is Hunt right? Unless I'm missing the mark completely. Do you think that is likely?
It's possible, but not necessarily. If Huntzilla is town, he's low-hanging fruit. I can easily see scum trying to save him for later.
However, your point on possibly sitting on your opinion until the outcome is not bad at all.
This is frustrating, but if DK is telling the truth, then I agree that that isn't really a scumHunt. I still would have preferred a living townShock to a living townHunt, because a townShock is at least useful.
On another note... in light of Shock's flip, I'm not a fan of Mindreaver's PBP post, especially the way he painted Shock's reads as poor without any explanation.
Just because he's town, doesn't mean his reads weren't bad :). Also, in light of the flip, show me the scum motivation for that post?
I'm still re-reading a bit, because this result wasn't what I expected. But I don't think many of his "reads" (Seppel, Rodemy, Me, Megs) are even on my radar now. Tordeck is, and Hunt's involvement here is somewhat suspicious, but that's all (IMHO).
I'd like to hear from Hunt, to make sure his version of that QT jives with yours. But if shcok didn't defend himself, I'd be surprised (especially since he posted all about "I'm gonna spam the crap out of that QT thread"). I mean, it wasn't like he inactive in this thread.
My top suspects at the moment, are Tordeck and Nykllor, for those responses to the flip.
NaG's proposal did exactly what it was supposed to do, gather information.
My thought process here is something along these lines:
Town is dead, so it's POSSIBLE that some of Hunt, DK, NaG is scum.
I don't think all of them are. I'd be very surprised to have the whole scum team involved in the first kill. Especially since we don't think there was scumchat to coordinate.
I'm trying to figure out how to isolate those three, or at least try and tie them to the next proposal/flip. I've toyed with having a similar proposal to NaG's, with NaG/Hunt as the kingmaker. Or going with a Hunt/DK proposal. Something, so that we can correlate outcomes.
Dking is telling the truth. Shock had one post at the start of the thread basically saying "Hunt is scum because scum is Hunt," and then only two more posts in the whole chat. When I asked him the same thing you mentioned Mind "why be the top poster ITT only to say nothing of value here" and the guy just basically posted "shrug" and then said he wanted to focus on other games and rolled over to die. Not at all how I thought it was going to go in there, simply because I thought I would actually have to fight for my life.
My angry Seppel rant is this: I don't get how Seppel is always so wrong about me. He calls me scum when I am town and town when I am scum, but always calls me useless. This boggles my mind for this simple reason; I learned how to play Mafia this way by watching him. No joke, and I am sure a few light bulbs will go off for people, but when I started playing I liked the way that Seppel played. His combination of LOL-posting, sarcasm, and then nuggets of wisdom/hair-brained ideas was exactly the way I wanted to play. I never wanted to be the super serious perfect analyst. I grabbed his playstyle and made it my own. So I am not sure if he just doesn't like seeing his tactics in the mirror or what, but I have to tell you it is frustrating as hell to here how useless I am from the king of uselessness and the man that taught me my trade. ALSO, to add to the confusion I feel when he gets it wrong every time, I use SEPPEL'S RULES TO BEING SCUM WHEN I AM SCUM. I'm sure some of you have seen his list of rules that help newb scum adapt to playing as mafia, and I could post them if others haven't, but my major question is this. How can he call me scum incorrectly when I am town and act like him, and then when I use HIS RULES AS SCUM, he gets it wrong. LIke, EVERY TIME. It just drives me insane.
I will be busy most of the early weekend, and should be back Sunday. I will try to pop my head in here when I can during that span.
The shock town flip means I need to reevaluate my current reads.
Maybe we put three town members in the same group?
Surprising? Not really.
Let's see I have some questions.
Dota, why are you reading me as scum, and ignoring Kpaca? Then when it was brought up you added kpaca, but why are you not adding Tordeck to that read?
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Alpha Seppel Dota Tordeck
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dkingsland967
Huntzilla Megiddo
Mindreaver
not_a_gimmick
Maybe we put three town members in the same group?
Surprising? Not really.
Let's see I have some questions.
Dota, why are you reading me as scum, and ignoring Kpaca? Then when it was brought up you added kpaca, but why are you not adding Tordeck to that read?
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Alpha Seppel Dota Tordeck
My List
dkingsland967
Huntzilla Megiddo
Mindreaver
not_a_gimmick
Nykllor
Rodemy
kpaca
Seppel
DoTArchon
Tordeck
Because as scarce as kpaca has been he's still put in more effort than you have imo. When I was asked about it I reread his iso and agreed that he also looks bad.
Can you explain why Seppel is a scumread for you, and is lower on your list than kpaca? Also, why am I scum?
Maybe we put three town members in the same group?
Surprising? Not really.
Let's see I have some questions.
Dota, why are you reading me as scum, and ignoring Kpaca? Then when it was brought up you added kpaca, but why are you not adding Tordeck to that read?
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Alpha Seppel Dota Tordeck
My List
dkingsland967
Huntzilla Megiddo
Mindreaver
not_a_gimmick
Nykllor
Rodemy
kpaca
Seppel
DoTArchon
Tordeck
Because as scarce as kpaca has been he's still put in more effort than you have imo. When I was asked about it I reread his iso and agreed that he also looks bad.
Can you explain why Seppel is a scumread for you, and is lower on your list than kpaca? Also, why am I scum?
I like how you ignored the Tordeck part of that question.
And that's why you are scum.
Seppel is gut feeling. But he also seems way to eager to change his opinion of people/ meld his vote when people question him / ask him about his scum reads. Quite a few times its been a "Oh yeah that's a good point vote that person" etc.
DV:
You proposed and voted for your bottom 3 reads. I respect that.
The current leading proposal is 3 of your bottom 4. Move your vote there.
Seppel:
You are voting for a proposal that would lead to the two of us lynching kpaca almost immediately.
Move your vote to bobblegong. You can either lynch kpaca with tordeck instead, change your mind and kill tordeck, or let the two of them claim scum by voting you.
Let's not let this game drag along again.
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Curiosity killed the cat. But for awhile, I was a suspect.
Seppel:
You are voting for a proposal that would lead to the two of us lynching kpaca almost immediately.
Move your vote to bobblegong. You can either lynch kpaca with tordeck instead, change your mind and kill tordeck, or let the two of them claim scum by voting you.
Let's not let this game drag along again.
I'm a bit leery of setting up a mislynch to catch two scum, when we don't really have a reliable way to get rid of them, once caught. I would feel better just taking out any of Kpaca/Tordeck/Nykllor or possibly DoTA, singly.
It's not a bad plan, or thought process. I can see the merits. I just don't know exactly what we'd do with Kpaca/Tordeck if town!Seppel is on the ground. Obviously, lynch through them, but there is always the possibility that we accidentally put them in another group with a second scum by mistake (and there would still be two "unknown" scum out there). Leading to a third mislynch, and then we're in lylo.
Nevermind, once scum starts dying, we aren't as vulnerable. So if we get to a Lylo, and know 3 scum, we just kill one, and aren't in lylo anymore. I'm a dummy.
DV:
You proposed and voted for your bottom 3 reads. I respect that.
The current leading proposal is 3 of your bottom 4. Move your vote there.
Seppel:
You are voting for a proposal that would lead to the two of us lynching kpaca almost immediately.
Move your vote to bobblegong. You can either lynch kpaca with tordeck instead, change your mind and kill tordeck, or let the two of them claim scum by voting you.
Let's not let this game drag along again.
MY issue with that is that I am heavily reading Tordeck and Seppel as scum, additionally I am reading Dota as scum and Dota is voting for that grouping that makes me think that possibly Kpaca is town.
y'all realize that if you put me seps and kpaca in a room alone and kpaca will be the only option. simply because neither sep or I is gunna vote for themself and kpaca probably wont even show up so sep and i will both vote for him just so it doesnt go to random. a better idea would be to go with my proposal. either they team up to kill me and we have two confirmed scum or one of them turns on the other and we have a dead scum. thats a win/win in my book
You've already voted for the proposal and preemptively blamed me for the result. That stands on its own.
(Condolences for the funeral.)
You gonna put some reasoning behind that, buddy?
Mindreavers PBP of Shock made me feel good about him being town.
Kpaca has contributed nothing at all. Like, you aren't even trying.
I wanna lynch him.
vote NFAY
As for NFAY, why is uselessness scummy?
And for that matter, kpaca may be the most useful in that grouping. So why him over the sugar and spice net zero that is DV and tordeck?
I don't particularly disagree that we might have to lynch some lurkers, but this is strange coming from you.
He has contributed absolutley NOTHING to the game.
And he said
That was AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.
There was no "better post"
Could he be scum? I don't know.
Does his playstyle annoy the ***** outta me?
Yes.
Has anyone played with him before?
can they confirm that he does this one line useless reply every time?
Vote:DV.spl
Now, I won't be holding you responsible for ANY outcome. If Shock dies, and ends up being town, I wouldn't point the finger at you. I genuinely think Shockwave is scum and I agree with Hunt's sentiment at the end of the day, he can argue a case. So it wouldn't be "easy" for shockwave to actually get hunt killed. If Hunt does die, flip town, and I don't hear a damn good reason from dk, then you and he are suspicious. Because it's a result I don't expect. And as I said to Tordeck, I don't quite know how to PoE you three if hunt is dead town on the ground. If DK dies, I've got a similar problem (where you might be complict, but I think we chew through hunt/shock first, since they were told not to kill him.
On the other hand, if these guys kill scum, you get a lot of towncred from me. If there is a dead shockwave on the floor, or a dead hunt, I'll be the first one to say I was wrong about you and that I can't see scum putting a partner at risk like that. It'd be a tough gamble.
But you should know all that, when you proposed this. You share in the glory, or you share in the failure.
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Vote Count
(6 to pass)
Stakeout: D_V, Seppel, Tordeck
1 - Seppel
NFAY: D_V, kpaca, Tordeck
1 - Mindreaver, Rodemy
DV.spl: DoTArchon, D_V, Seppel
1 - DoTArchon
Wobbegong: Huntzilla, not_a_gimmick, Seppel
1 - D_V
SnM: Mindreaver, not_a_gimmick, Seppel
1 - Tordeck
Active Proposals
None
FROG: DoTArchon, Huntzilla, Mindreaver
SMD: DoTArchon, Mindreaver, Seppel
Rocket: DoTArchon, not_a_gimmick, Nykllor
DieScum: DoTArchon, Rodemy, Seppel
Instinct: D_V, Huntzilla, Rodemy
GreatProposal: Huntzilla, Mindreaver, Seppel
SHuT: Huntzilla, Seppel, Tordeck
Nuts: kpaca, Mindreaver, Seppel
Mystic: Mindreaver, Seppel, Tordeck
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But how about we skip that and just lynch huntzilla now?
vote wobbegong
So why not Kpaca? He fits almost the exact same critera.
Oh hush, you towncleared him almost instantly off a silly "put me in" rvs bull***** proposal.
Guess you already knew, eh?
unvote
propose WobbleDong (kpaca, Sepple, NaG)
vote WobbleDong
Pretty confident in this one.
I have an iffy read on sepple. So let those three duke it out and see what happens.
Hunt or NaG, those are the only options I'll be down for trying to get rid of at this point.
**** it.
Proposal Shibari - Tordeck, NaG, Hunt
unvote, vote Shibari
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What about Seppel? What specifically made you change your read on him?
The Family
I was actually leaning toward Huntzilla going in, but he posted an angry rant about Seppel always thinking he's scum that sounded genuine, while Shockwave just made a couple posts that sounded defeatist and disappeared. Maybe he assumed I was going to lynch him since I did push him ITT, but it looked like caught scum clamming up.
On another note... in light of Shock's flip, I'm not a fan of Mindreaver's PBP post, especially the way he painted Shock's reads as poor without any explanation.
I'm still re-reading a bit, because this result wasn't what I expected. But I don't think many of his "reads" (Seppel, Rodemy, Me, Megs) are even on my radar now. Tordeck is, and Hunt's involvement here is somewhat suspicious, but that's all (IMHO).
I'd like to hear from Hunt, to make sure his version of that QT jives with yours. But if shcok didn't defend himself, I'd be surprised (especially since he posted all about "I'm gonna spam the crap out of that QT thread"). I mean, it wasn't like he inactive in this thread.
My top suspects at the moment, are Tordeck and Nykllor, for those responses to the flip.
NaG's proposal did exactly what it was supposed to do, gather information.
My thought process here is something along these lines:
Town is dead, so it's POSSIBLE that some of Hunt, DK, NaG is scum.
I don't think all of them are. I'd be very surprised to have the whole scum team involved in the first kill. Especially since we don't think there was scumchat to coordinate.
I'm trying to figure out how to isolate those three, or at least try and tie them to the next proposal/flip. I've toyed with having a similar proposal to NaG's, with NaG/Hunt as the kingmaker. Or going with a Hunt/DK proposal. Something, so that we can correlate outcomes.
IIRC, he only said he was going to spam the QT if both the other players were scum.
As for scum motivation for your post, an attempt to sway me while the QT is going on? To be frank, I can't find town motivation for doing a PBP of someone who is already on the chopping block when those in this thread have no bearing on the outcome.
From my perspective, I'd been promising that thing for a while, and not meeting those goals. I could have either sat on my opinion until I knew the outcome, or shared it prior to the outcome. I think if I was scum, knowing Shockwave would flip town, I would have played that differently (something similar to Seppel's 311).
It's possible, but not necessarily. If Huntzilla is town, he's low-hanging fruit. I can easily see scum trying to save him for later.
However, your point on possibly sitting on your opinion until the outcome is not bad at all.
If Seppel gets lynched in that grouping then we speedlynch NaG and Hunt #InSeppelWeTrust.
I'm down for lynching Kpaca.
Unvote, vote WobbleDong
No.
The thing about that plan is.. scum know it. And probably wouldn't risk it considering they are ahead right now.
How am I making more sense than you? IT'S ME....
Are you implying all three could be scum?
From DoTA's perspective: Seppel is town.
If the other two ARE scum, then...oh... i see where you are coming from.
However, to assume both are scum AND will lynch sepple just to get a townie kill is.. dumb..
unvote
Vote wobbegong
**** it. Sep? You up for a little Kingmaker?
I'm going off your vouching for Hunt being town. And I believe NaG is town. So it's a trash proposal.
Toss me in with two scum? I'm fine with trading 2 for 1.
Toss me in with two town? Nope. That's just another trash proposal.
Speaking of Rodemy, I don't hate his WobbleDong proposal, but I would rather see you play kingmaker between kpaca and Tordeck than NaG.
Proposal Bobblegong (aka let's make Xyre's life miserable): Seppel, kpaca, Tordeck
Vote Bobblegong
Welll
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Vote WobbleDong
If you're of the opinion that NaG and Hunt are town then my vote is currently wasted.
Unvote.
Vote: Bobblegong.
I'd prefer to have kpaca and D_V in that room but too many proposals clogs up the process and slows everything down (as we saw earlier)
Town mindset usually comes from town.
And sure.
vote bobblegong
I cannot wait to see how tordeck plays off lynching kpaca with seppel.
I still kind of want to lynch huntzilla, but I suppose I have some reconsidering to do.
I absolutely still want to lynch nykllor, and will immediately jump on any proposal that has a decent chance of doing that.
Mindreaver can live for now. But I'm still paying attention.
Dking is telling the truth. Shock had one post at the start of the thread basically saying "Hunt is scum because scum is Hunt," and then only two more posts in the whole chat. When I asked him the same thing you mentioned Mind "why be the top poster ITT only to say nothing of value here" and the guy just basically posted "shrug" and then said he wanted to focus on other games and rolled over to die. Not at all how I thought it was going to go in there, simply because I thought I would actually have to fight for my life.
My angry Seppel rant is this: I don't get how Seppel is always so wrong about me. He calls me scum when I am town and town when I am scum, but always calls me useless. This boggles my mind for this simple reason; I learned how to play Mafia this way by watching him. No joke, and I am sure a few light bulbs will go off for people, but when I started playing I liked the way that Seppel played. His combination of LOL-posting, sarcasm, and then nuggets of wisdom/hair-brained ideas was exactly the way I wanted to play. I never wanted to be the super serious perfect analyst. I grabbed his playstyle and made it my own. So I am not sure if he just doesn't like seeing his tactics in the mirror or what, but I have to tell you it is frustrating as hell to here how useless I am from the king of uselessness and the man that taught me my trade. ALSO, to add to the confusion I feel when he gets it wrong every time, I use SEPPEL'S RULES TO BEING SCUM WHEN I AM SCUM. I'm sure some of you have seen his list of rules that help newb scum adapt to playing as mafia, and I could post them if others haven't, but my major question is this. How can he call me scum incorrectly when I am town and act like him, and then when I use HIS RULES AS SCUM, he gets it wrong. LIke, EVERY TIME. It just drives me insane.
I will be busy most of the early weekend, and should be back Sunday. I will try to pop my head in here when I can during that span.
The shock town flip means I need to reevaluate my current reads.
It is odd that shock would just roll over and die.. when he clearly said he wasn't going to.
Like seriously, he literally wanted to go in and fight.
Surprising? Not really.
Let's see I have some questions.
Dota, why are you reading me as scum, and ignoring Kpaca? Then when it was brought up you added kpaca, but why are you not adding Tordeck to that read?
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Alpha Seppel Dota Tordeck
My List
dkingsland967
Huntzilla Megiddo
Mindreaver
not_a_gimmick
Nykllor
Rodemy
kpaca
Seppel
DoTArchon
Tordeck
Vote Count
(6 to pass)
Alpha: DoTArchon, Seppel, Tordeck
1 - D_V
NFAY: D_V, kpaca, Tordeck
1 - Mindreaver
Shibari: Huntzilla, not_a_gimmick, Tordeck
2 - Tordeck, Nykllor
WobbleDong: kpaca, not_a_gimmick, Seppel
2 - Seppel, Rodemy
Bobblegong: kpaca, Seppel, Tordeck
3 - dkingsland967, DoTArchon, not_a_gimmick
Active Proposals
None
DV.spl: DoTArchon, D_V, Seppel
FROG: DoTArchon, Huntzilla, Mindreaver
SMD: DoTArchon, Mindreaver, Seppel
Rocket: DoTArchon, not_a_gimmick, Nykllor
DieScum: DoTArchon, Rodemy, Seppel
Instinct: D_V, Huntzilla, Rodemy
Stakeout: D_V, Seppel, Tordeck
GreatProposal: Huntzilla, Mindreaver, Seppel
Wobbegong: Huntzilla, not_a_gimmick, Seppel
SHuT: Huntzilla, Seppel, Tordeck
Nuts: kpaca, Mindreaver, Seppel
SnM: Mindreaver, not_a_gimmick, Seppel
Mystic: Mindreaver, Seppel, Tordeck
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Can you explain why Seppel is a scumread for you, and is lower on your list than kpaca? Also, why am I scum?
I like how you ignored the Tordeck part of that question.
And that's why you are scum.
Seppel is gut feeling. But he also seems way to eager to change his opinion of people/ meld his vote when people question him / ask him about his scum reads. Quite a few times its been a "Oh yeah that's a good point vote that person" etc.
You proposed and voted for your bottom 3 reads. I respect that.
The current leading proposal is 3 of your bottom 4. Move your vote there.
Seppel:
You are voting for a proposal that would lead to the two of us lynching kpaca almost immediately.
Move your vote to bobblegong. You can either lynch kpaca with tordeck instead, change your mind and kill tordeck, or let the two of them claim scum by voting you.
Let's not let this game drag along again.
It's not a bad plan, or thought process. I can see the merits. I just don't know exactly what we'd do with Kpaca/Tordeck if town!Seppel is on the ground. Obviously, lynch through them, but there is always the possibility that we accidentally put them in another group with a second scum by mistake (and there would still be two "unknown" scum out there). Leading to a third mislynch, and then we're in lylo.
Unvote, Vote Bobblegong
MY issue with that is that I am heavily reading Tordeck and Seppel as scum, additionally I am reading Dota as scum and Dota is voting for that grouping that makes me think that possibly Kpaca is town.
The Family
Seriously, is that a joke?
Kpaca really needs to do something or get replaced. Tordeck and DV are both putting him to shame right now, and they still aren't that impressive.