Also I'm clearing Tammy so come at me you scublords.
do tell
I will use different idiomatic language from time to time as I'm sure any player will. I do employ a rather large lexicon as a writer. Bite me is sort of in the "Vaimes based lexical items" category.
I will use different idiomatic language from time to time as I'm sure any player will. I do employ a rather large lexicon as a writer. Bite me is sort of in the "Vaimes based lexical items" category.
further noted that you felt the need to respond to that.
I will use different idiomatic language from time to time as I'm sure any player will. I do employ a rather large lexicon as a writer. Bite me is sort of in the "Vaimes based lexical items" category.
further noted that you felt the need to respond to that.
I was being pedantic. I have a dry sense of humor.
Seppel's entire argument against tammy was fluff. He spent more time talking about him name (which doesn't follow the same pattern the rest of the names do btw) than actually saying why he thought tammy was scum and then backed off when he saw it wasn't going anywhere.
Falling back on self-defense when under pressure rather than continuing to scumhunt is suspect, I'm leaning town on Seppel, and no, but it certainly isn't a towntell. I already talked about TS; did you not read my post?
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Tammy likes TS for "trying to figure her out." TS was hesitant in voting Tammy when she started trolling/fluffing under pressure.
I smell something fishy porky.
@Nacho
Hi. You're kind of quiet, and you know Tammy. Divine her alignment for me, pretty please.
My last offsite scumgame was embarrassingly awful, and if I can get away with it, I'd rather not put it on display.
Fair enough, I don't want to use off-site meta anyway.
But remember when I caught that you weren't town in AA? Because you were posting fluff. Well, here you are pushing things that don't seem to be there, as if trying to manufacture reads. Everyone wanted to dismiss me and town read you in AA but I caught onto you from the beginning of day one.
I think based on my gut Vaimes is scum in this game. I will play the game normally and try to see if my feeling matches reality but this is not a Vaimes I have played with before. Pretty certain.
And by "things that don't seem to be there," I take it you're referring only to yourself. Unless your thoughts have changed on Tammy?
Mind giving us a T/S list while we have you here in the flesh Vaimes?
I'm holding onto my townreads until later in the Day.
I asked you about Tammy.
Not sure what you are getting at. What are my thoughts on tammy praytell?
You were trying to force a vote out of me for what looks like a wagon on Tammy and seem overly upset that I didn't vote. Has given me a lot of cause for pause.
I didn't see any trolling coming from tammy she just got a little cheeky. Also the rest seemed like a townie getting annoyed over getting attacked over something small, it happens. Now if she doesn't switch over to offence at any point over the course of the day that would ping me but need to let the day develop to see if that happens.
Also I don't know if I buy you just poking things when you've focused solely on tammy. Yes you started questioning TS but even that circled back onto tammy.
Early readslists are frowned upon on my homesite. Same with not voting early and often. I guess I understand not liking my Tammy push, but uh. I'm gonna keep doing it, because I think there's a decent chance she's scum.
How is it misleading? Which comment am I echoing from you and tom?
Like half of that is just offsite metaclash, and I don't really understand the awareness thing.
@Vaimes
I did say you were giving me bad vibes before.
The tunnel on tammy looks really bad especially considering it was wagon you didn't start, seems really opportunistic. Plus before you got on the tammy wagon you looked like you were fishing for a place to put your vote with ZDS and mato.
Again, I don't see any real way to read that other than Vaimes intentionally picking a fight to stir the pot. Which I've seen him do before as town. Not that I'd clear him, per se. But he was definitely the aggressor. He wasn't "drawn in".
Early readslists are frowned upon on my homesite. Same with not voting early and often. I guess I understand not liking my Tammy push, but uh. I'm gonna keep doing it, because I think there's a decent chance she's scum.
How is it misleading? Which comment am I echoing from you and tom?
Like half of that is just offsite metaclash, and I don't really understand the awareness thing.
Why have you pumped the brakes so hard at me Vaimes? Come at me old sport!
What do you actually think of her then? All I can see is "I'm clearing Tammy." I laid out my reasons for thinking she's scum; what specifically do you disagree with?
@Mindreaver
I can definitely see the first one, but the second one is a stretch. What's the relevance?
I said before Tammy just seems like a townie annoyed at getting attacked over what boils down to a nitpick. Whether she keeps her town status with me depends on her going on the offense at some point. She loses town credit if she stays defensive or goes lurky.
Was that really pressure though?
If youre going to be scumreading tammy right now, it should be for lashing out against the easy townclears.
Also disclaimer: I've read some vaimes scum games. Everyone on DLP says he's the easiest to read in the world, but I seem to be completely blind to it.
So I'm gonna leave the vaimes catching to you guys. If he's scum, figure it out soon so I'm not too invested.
OH, I can only vote when YOU want me to vote. I can't vote when you do things that I find sketchy. You were all over me acting like a totally different player this game. I kept calling you out on it and you backed off. I don't like it. I already said you are likely scum. This is my wheel house Vaimes. Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "Never play the wine game with the man in black," but only slightly less well-known is this:Never go in against TS if you are scum when DEATH is on the line!
I only "backed off" because I didn't want to get dragged into a snipe-fest, which I still don't. I'd 100% rather talk to anybody else about you than deal with you directly, but I know from past games that you'll take it as a personal attack or whatever.
You can vote whenever you want. I prefer people to vote who they think is scummiest at any given time, because it helps with votal analysis down the line. For that purpose alone, your vote on me is fine. Outside of that, it's still opportunistic, and it's still scummy.
I only "backed off" because I didn't want to get dragged into a snipe-fest, which I still don't. I'd 100% rather talk to anybody else about you than deal with you directly, but I know from past games that you'll take it as a personal attack or whatever.
You can vote whenever you want. I prefer people to vote who they think is scummiest at any given time, because it helps with votal analysis down the line. For that purpose alone, your vote on me is fine. Outside of that, it's still opportunistic, and it's still scummy.
What's with the personal attack? I've said nothing bad to you. Don't get all salty because you have a few votes on you, man be a good sport, old sport.
theres a part of my head that thinks vaimes/tapping is scum/scum and theyre just trying to continue their arguing from other games.
i guess it could be one or the other, but it really seems like neither of them had any desire to change the status quo here
That's a bit of a stretch.
I called him out as scum. I'm certainly not arguing with him. I announced that he's playing very different then the Town/Neutral games I've played with him, he kept doing scummy things and I'm on him now. I won't let him troll me though over getting caught.
You don't get to just say you don't like my last post.
What parts didn't you like? Why didn't you like those specific parts?
I realize this wasn't directed at me, but you are totally wrong. You totally DO get to just say you don't like someone's post. Further explanation is permissible, sometimes welcome, never required. Which is such an obvious thing it just makes me wonder why you are seeming to freak out about it so much?
Seriously, like, you're all over Vaimes, but not voting him. And when he notes your hesitation to vote, you give him this big "I have no reason to vote yet," thing:
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I could almost ignore this as you just trying to be funny back at me, except it didn't look like you were trying to be funny. TS is inscrutable to me though. Everything he writes sounds fake.
I haven't seen anything suspicious from Vaimes. Seppel's been fine. ZDS fine. Tom fine. Fables T/S list is so terrible, he's...probably town too?
Scummiest are the lurkers: Nacho. Hunt. Mindreaver did something I didn't like. Tammy hasn't done anything to make me think she's town either.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Is a Vaimes/Axelrod scum team too easy? Because Axel has been flying under my radar and I only just now saw his terrible quote a post and add "scum?" to it posts. Then add him calling lurkers scummy when he's skating by himself and it doesn't look good.
Is a Vaimes/Axelrod scum team too easy? Because Axel has been flying under my radar and I only just now saw his terrible quote a post and add "scum?" to it posts. Then add him calling lurkers scummy when he's skating by himself and it doesn't look good.
Axelrod is on vacation! At the beach! So you're lucky you're getting anything from me at all right now. If one of those lurker guys wants to claim the same, that's cool.
Probably won't be the last time. Do I at least get a hint?
Yes! When I go back and remember what it was. I am not attempting to be cryptic.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
It could be fatigue, but this seems pretty underwhelming for an entrance as a whole; I know that you were pretty traumatized by the Infinity Scum March(tm) and maybe the town glow would have worn off by now but I was hoping to see at least a "yay! it's over!" or something else that is mind*******ly awesome.
Seppel's setup breaking obsession seems remarkably similar to his weird Ascetic thing in Vanillaville; of course, not entirely impossible that this is something that he's doing as scum, but doesn't seem likely at the moment (there's something about his tone seeming pretty beautifully on point that reassures me).
Mwuhahaha, my cunning plan to pretend I didn't understand my own role-name is already paying dividends!
Again, don't think this is something scum says while being townread.
I especially don't think this is something scum-Axelrod says while being townread.
If you can't townread me without a name claim, then you probably don't have any business reading me at all.
But, since I'm nice: Wolf Chest of the Sure.
Where? You don't look like you're playing mafia to me. Looks like semantic hoo ha to me.
I don't think you'r that dense. I don't think a town you accusing someone for having a sketchy lack of reaction when they're not in the thread. I don't think a town you doesn't recognize i'm talking about everyone having a pig pun name therefore the beginning of the game clearance is stupid and goes i'm not a pig. I notice that you passed on discussing the "confusion" every one had. I don't think a town you thinks that someone who doesn't know what's going on is actually scummy.
I think you're an opportunistic pig!
While I think your push looks reasonable enough, I'm concerned that it's mostly centered around the win condition thing. I also think that Seppel can be fairly silly in general and so saying that he would know better to do something so ridiculous doesn't seem perfectly genuine to me.
Nachomamma: Is it normal for Tammy to behave like this?
Is it normal for her to respond strongly to pushes on her? Yes.
Do I think that her confusion of win conditions looks is probably genuine? Yes (I don't follow why people assume Mafia would be any less confused than Town).
I think that she could be scum for reasons outside of that.
Vaimes posts do NOT make me want to take my shirt off.
Falling back on self-defense when under pressure rather than continuing to scumhunt is suspect, I'm leaning town on Seppel, and no, but it certainly isn't a towntell. I already talked about TS; did you not read my post?
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Tammy likes TS for "trying to figure her out." TS was hesitant in voting Tammy when she started trolling/fluffing under pressure.
I smell something fishy porky.
@Nacho
Hi. You're kind of quiet, and you know Tammy. Divine her alignment for me, pretty please.
Not sure. I felt better about her recent posts but am still unsure as a whole.
You're welcome!
Fable looks good.
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I will use different idiomatic language from time to time as I'm sure any player will. I do employ a rather large lexicon as a writer. Bite me is sort of in the "Vaimes based lexical items" category.
I was being pedantic. I have a dry sense of humor.
Falling back on self-defense when under pressure rather than continuing to scumhunt is suspect, I'm leaning town on Seppel, and no, but it certainly isn't a towntell. I already talked about TS; did you not read my post?
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Tammy likes TS for "trying to figure her out." TS was hesitant in voting Tammy when she started trolling/fluffing under pressure.
I smell something
fishyporky.@Nacho
Hi. You're kind of quiet, and you know Tammy. Divine her alignment for me, pretty please.
does anyone have a link to his last scum game on site?
My last offsite scumgame was embarrassingly awful, and if I can get away with it, I'd rather not put it on display.
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Score!
Fair enough, I don't want to use off-site meta anyway.
But remember when I caught that you weren't town in AA? Because you were posting fluff. Well, here you are pushing things that don't seem to be there, as if trying to manufacture reads. Everyone wanted to dismiss me and town read you in AA but I caught onto you from the beginning of day one.
I think based on my gut Vaimes is scum in this game. I will play the game normally and try to see if my feeling matches reality but this is not a Vaimes I have played with before. Pretty certain.
Mind giving us a T/S list while we have you here in the flesh Vaimes?
TOWN
ZDS
Mindreaver
Tammy
Tom
NULL
TS
Axelrod
Nacho
Huntzilla
Mato
SCUM
Seppel
Vaimes
While I think Seppel and Vaimes could be scum I think it's unlikely they're on a scum team together.
I'm holding onto my townreads until later in the Day.
I asked you about Tammy.
Not sure what you are getting at. What are my thoughts on tammy praytell?
You were trying to force a vote out of me for what looks like a wagon on Tammy and seem overly upset that I didn't vote. Has given me a lot of cause for pause.
Asking for you to vote =/= asking for you to vote on Tammy specifically.
Time for a break. o/
Vaimes, what exactly has Tammy done to make you so sure she's scum?
It's less being certain and more I'm just poking things with a stick/thwacking a pinata and seeing what comes out.
Also I don't know if I buy you just poking things when you've focused solely on tammy. Yes you started questioning TS but even that circled back onto tammy.
That was a general statement. In this case, at this very moment, Tammy is my pinata.
Fable: why do you think I'm scum, and why do you think Seppel and I are NKA? You didn't mention me at all prior to your readslist.
So much I don't like in the last few posts. No T/S, TS needs to vote still, Pushing Tammy, this...
That's just misleading. It's an echo of Tom's comment (note the echo part). Especially when you post later...
Which is how I was reading the TS thing (echoing my post).
I am reading this as you being very aware of what people are saying in regards to you.
Early readslists are frowned upon on my homesite. Same with not voting early and often. I guess I understand not liking my Tammy push, but uh. I'm gonna keep doing it, because I think there's a decent chance she's scum.
How is it misleading? Which comment am I echoing from you and tom?
Like half of that is just offsite metaclash, and I don't really understand the awareness thing.
I did say you were giving me bad vibes before.
The tunnel on tammy looks really bad especially considering it was wagon you didn't start, seems really opportunistic. Plus before you got on the tammy wagon you looked like you were fishing for a place to put your vote with ZDS and mato.
Compared to...
and...
Compared to...
Why have you pumped the brakes so hard at me Vaimes? Come at me old sport!
VOTE:VAIMES
Ah, I missed that.
What do you actually think of her then? All I can see is "I'm clearing Tammy." I laid out my reasons for thinking she's scum; what specifically do you disagree with?
@Mindreaver
I can definitely see the first one, but the second one is a stretch. What's the relevance?
If youre going to be scumreading tammy right now, it should be for lashing out against the easy townclears.
Also disclaimer: I've read some vaimes scum games. Everyone on DLP says he's the easiest to read in the world, but I seem to be completely blind to it.
So I'm gonna leave the vaimes catching to you guys. If he's scum, figure it out soon so I'm not too invested.
I mostly like fable's w/p list.
vote seppel
ill explain later.
Could you talk about your tom read and why he's that high?
OH, I can only vote when YOU want me to vote. I can't vote when you do things that I find sketchy. You were all over me acting like a totally different player this game. I kept calling you out on it and you backed off. I don't like it. I already said you are likely scum. This is my wheel house Vaimes. Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "Never play the wine game with the man in black," but only slightly less well-known is this:Never go in against TS if you are scum when DEATH is on the line!
Get in my head bro
I only "backed off" because I didn't want to get dragged into a snipe-fest, which I still don't. I'd 100% rather talk to anybody else about you than deal with you directly, but I know from past games that you'll take it as a personal attack or whatever.
You can vote whenever you want. I prefer people to vote who they think is scummiest at any given time, because it helps with votal analysis down the line. For that purpose alone, your vote on me is fine. Outside of that, it's still opportunistic, and it's still scummy.
Yeah, I tried that a couple times. Didn't work out.
He has self-professed he plays for fun first, victory second. So catching him via tone or motivation is more or less a no-go.
What's with the personal attack? I've said nothing bad to you. Don't get all salty because you have a few votes on you, man be a good sport, old sport.
i guess it could be one or the other, but it really seems like neither of them had any desire to change the status quo here
That's a bit of a stretch.
I called him out as scum. I'm certainly not arguing with him. I announced that he's playing very different then the Town/Neutral games I've played with him, he kept doing scummy things and I'm on him now. I won't let him troll me though over getting caught.
I don't see Vaimes trying to push Tammy on TS if they're on the same scum team.
I realize this wasn't directed at me, but you are totally wrong. You totally DO get to just say you don't like someone's post. Further explanation is permissible, sometimes welcome, never required. Which is such an obvious thing it just makes me wonder why you are seeming to freak out about it so much?
Seriously, like, you're all over Vaimes, but not voting him. And when he notes your hesitation to vote, you give him this big "I have no reason to vote yet," thing:
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But then, when I'm just JOKING around, this, apparently is sufficient motivation?
I could almost ignore this as you just trying to be funny back at me, except it didn't look like you were trying to be funny. TS is inscrutable to me though. Everything he writes sounds fake.
I haven't seen anything suspicious from Vaimes. Seppel's been fine. ZDS fine. Tom fine. Fables T/S list is so terrible, he's...probably town too?
Scummiest are the lurkers: Nacho. Hunt. Mindreaver did something I didn't like. Tammy hasn't done anything to make me think she's town either.
Probably won't be the last time. Do I at least get a hint?
Axelrod is on vacation! At the beach! So you're lucky you're getting anything from me at all right now. If one of those lurker guys wants to claim the same, that's cool.
Yes! When I go back and remember what it was. I am not attempting to be cryptic.
It could be fatigue, but this seems pretty underwhelming for an entrance as a whole; I know that you were pretty traumatized by the Infinity Scum March(tm) and maybe the town glow would have worn off by now but I was hoping to see at least a "yay! it's over!" or something else that is mind*******ly awesome.
Seppel's setup breaking obsession seems remarkably similar to his weird Ascetic thing in Vanillaville; of course, not entirely impossible that this is something that he's doing as scum, but doesn't seem likely at the moment (there's something about his tone seeming pretty beautifully on point that reassures me).
My name is not silly and it's not fun.
"The Wolf of Wall Street" is unoriginal and boring.
Again, don't think this is something scum says while being townread.
I especially don't think this is something scum-Axelrod says while being townread.
If you can't townread me without a name claim, then you probably don't have any business reading me at all.
But, since I'm nice: Wolf Chest of the Sure.
While I think your push looks reasonable enough, I'm concerned that it's mostly centered around the win condition thing. I also think that Seppel can be fairly silly in general and so saying that he would know better to do something so ridiculous doesn't seem perfectly genuine to me.
Is it normal for her to respond strongly to pushes on her? Yes.
Do I think that her confusion of win conditions looks is probably genuine? Yes (I don't follow why people assume Mafia would be any less confused than Town).
I think that she could be scum for reasons outside of that.
Vaimes posts do NOT make me want to take my shirt off.
Oops.
Not sure. I felt better about her recent posts but am still unsure as a whole.
You're welcome!
Fable looks good.