@Seppel
Even if Vaimes is scum, there's definitely more than 1 scum alive (lol). The world doesn't end in apocalytpic flames even if a scum!Vaimes survives toDay.
Unless you hard-town!read Tom AND Proph, there's no point in whining about being alone on Vaimes and refusing to move your vote
Vaimes - How do you differentiate between someone who is overwhelmed and just not posting vs. someone who has lost motivation and thus has stopped posting?
This is getting into "prove Proph is busy with other games" territory, so I'd rather just drop this line of questioning.
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@Seppel
Even if Vaimes is scum, there's definitely more than 1 scum alive (lol). The world doesn't end in apocalytpic flames even if a scum!Vaimes survives toDay.
Unless you hard-town!read Tom AND Proph, there's no point in whining about being alone on Vaimes and refusing to move your vote
@axel/zds
Can you really see scumnacho pushing the three of us to get involved in this way?
If you two are town as I strongly suspect, what's the benefit of that?
Does he just want the challenge?
@fable
Taste that lint
I was going to ask what you are getting at here. So what if you are town-reading Nacho, who do you think people should be voting for? I see that shortly after this you said the only considerations should be Proph or yourself, which I find strange. Like, if this was a situation where one or the other of your had to be scum, that would be one thing, but I don't think this is that situation.
Who else besides Proph? (sorry if you have said this already, but I'm not reading back right now.)
@Seppel
Even if Vaimes is scum, there's definitely more than 1 scum alive (lol). The world doesn't end in apocalytpic flames even if a scum!Vaimes survives toDay.
Unless you hard-town!read Tom AND Proph, there's no point in whining about being alone on Vaimes and refusing to move your vote
Um, yeah. Agreement. Vaimes or Die is a terrible attitude.
@Seppel: is basically your entire case the fact that Vaimes said that he believed you believed something? I mean, I understand, and even agree that his line was sketchy, but I don't think it's as slam dunk as you seem to think it is, and hardly enough to be all Vaimes-or-die-accept-no-substitutes that you seem to be.
i think ive done all i can do today.
if you really want to lynch me, just promise youll get proph tomorrow.
(or maybe tonight mr vig)
You could claim?
I've heard people say "claiming won't help" before, and I've heard people say "claiming would be bad" before, but I've virtually never seen the situation where Townie dying without claim was actually better than if he had done it.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
and the term is dazzling, not breathtaking.
im working on it.
it has an air of look at me I read aren't I a good townie that just reads false. I've seen several scum post notes in attempt to get town read because people think it's town for some reason.
Vaimes - How do you differentiate between someone who is overwhelmed and just not posting vs. someone who has lost motivation and thus has stopped posting?
This is getting into "prove Proph is busy with other games" territory, so I'd rather just drop this line of questioning.
Proph: pick one that isn't totally awful.
That's not even a tiny bit of that territory. I'm not questioning whether or not he is in a few games, in fact I know two of the other games he's playing in. I trust that when someone says they're in several games at once, that they are.
You say he gets demotivated as scum, and you're taking at face value that the reason he's not posting this game is busy, which while that may be so how do you differentiate between the two? Is what he is posting when he posts what you would expect from town or scum him? Why?
Axelrod: Vaimes has absolutely no reason for voting Fable. Even when questioned about his reason, he had none, and dodged it all, and jumped off the wagon realizing he had been caught.
Seriously, I challenge anyone to find Vaimes's reasons for voting Fable.
When you can't find them (or you find the garbage excuse), you may vote Vaimes.
Well, I may just take you up on that in a bit here.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
In the meantime, for my own amusement I was doing a compilation of names. This is in the order they were claimed:
Tom: Henry Oinkler
Mindreaver: Hammy Houdini (dead Townie)
Vaimes: Boarack Obama
Seppel: The Baconator
Axelrod: Pepper O'Nead
Nacho: Refused
Fable: James Sowson
TappingStones/Proph: Al Capork
Huntzilla: Patrick Swineszey (dead Townie)
Matowar/Citric: Pork Cop
As far as I can tell, ZDS, despite being the one to kick off the flavor discussion, never actually said his name. Nor has Tammy, though she at one point claimed she had a theory about the names.
Couple theories, thoughts about this. But first I want to know if there's any reason ZDS or Tammy has for not sayin, at least at this point.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I just went ahead and re-read Vaimes in his entirety.
Before I started my vague feelings about Vaimes were that he started off pretty strong, and read pretty Townie, but then he kind of checked out and lately he hasn't done much of anything at all, so I no longer had a good Townie read on him.
Though I have grown to detest all the meta-gaming that happens these days and how much of every argument is "so-and-so was/wasn't like this in X game before...." my own "meta" on Vaimes is that in I think the one time I played a game with him he was super-strong and super-Townie from the moment he entered and the scum basically had to kill him on N1 because he was never, ever getting lynched.
That Vaimes is certainly not this Vaimes. But, again, I cringe at the notion of lynching people because they aren't playing like they did before.
(Incidentally, that said, I am also now somewhat concerned that Tom could be snowing me with his personality, as several people have mentioned that he still plays like this even when scum and I've not seen a scum game of his so I've got no actual comparison basis. So, someone want to link me a Tom scum-game for some kind of reference? Actually, it's possible I'll be biased if I'm reading a game I already know he's scum. So maybe you could link me TWO Tom games, and not tell me the game he was scum in, and then, oh God, maybe I'd see if I could tell any difference. That sounds like so much work though that I'm dreading the thought of it even as I'm typing it.)
Anyway, back to looking at Vaimes specifically with an eye towards his Fable interactions this game per Seppel suggestion. It seems like it kind of starts with #182 when Vaimes questions Fable on why Fable has a scum-read on him now where Fable hadn't mentioned him before.
Then there was #300 where Vaimes suggests a post of Fables could be indicative of TMI, though it wasn't a strong accusation.
Then there was #307 where Vaimes did an "ISOdive" on both Fable and Tom, and came away with the conclusion that they could both be scum.
#382 he disagrees with Proph's read on Fable (which was "pretty decent Town read") and says he dislikes Fable's lack of active, probing questions.
He's very consistent with Tom/Fable/Tammy and a side of Matowar as his suspects in the early game at least.
He tells the claimed Cop that Fable would be a good check.
I am not a huge fan of how he has linked Fable and Tom together so early and apparently decided they are both scum looking at their interactions (or non-interactions) with each other. Pretty weak, I agree.
(@Seppel: you were at GenCon with Vaimes. Did you sneak a peek at his computer while he wasn't looking? Do you secretly know he's scum but can't explain why? It's okay, you can tell me. I can keep a secret)
I did notice this:
Quote from Vaimes in #966 »
Wait, I just noticed something.
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Vote Nacho
Citrus, you need to check tom or ~maybe Tammy. Just as long as you don't go rogue and check someone like Hunt or something.
Then after Citric claims his result on Tammy, Nacho gets on him in #1018 saying,
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Why didn't you clear up either the Nacho/Tom thing going on or the Seppel/Fable thing going on or the Tom/Seppel thing going on?
The only thing a Tammy clear gives is the revelation that someone's POE is probably wrong, which is something that he knew already whereas clearing one of the others mentioned forces reevaluation (or gives a definite scum lynch) which is far more informative than "welp, guess the person I was scumreading for no real reason was actually town"!
And Vaimes' response to THAT post is to give Nacho a big . So I don't understand that.
In the same post, Vaimes quotes you, Seppel and your vote for Fable, and says:
I'm a fan of his Fable push and am basically with him on it
Which is more or less consistent with his attitude towards Fable up to now. But it's a little strange the way he words this and seems to be getting behind you here, i.e. agreeing with your case, as opposed to pushing one of his own, given he's already been saying he thinks Fable is scum from early D1.
Then Vaimes made the post in #1084 where he's purporting to explain his scumread on Fable, which ends up being more of a process of elimination kind of thing, he makes the post Seppel pinged him on, and the overall summary seems to just be:
Fable is literally there by PoE + weird connection to tom
And, yeah, that's actually pretty bad. That's it?
In fact, it's the overall weakness of this read on someone he's been accusing since early D1 - but without really pressing Fable in any meaningful way I can see - well into D2, and his willingness to piggy-back off of Seppel that is leading me more and more to buy this Vaimes-scum thing. That and his overall lack of reads and the relative flatness of them.
I mean, it's scum or just extreme laziness.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
sure, vaimes could be scum. thats all plausible.
but i did like his response to seppel. it was very "no dummy. youre reading that wrong."
@seppel
is axel's explanation close to what youve been actively not telling us for the last week?
@tammy
you might be right actually.
my whole plan today was to dazzle nacho so we can catch the scumteam together.
i may have wanted him to see i spent the night putting work in.
@axel
youre probably right about claiming.
but im still holding out hope i can actually accomplish something with it.
and that becomes far less likely if its open knowledge.
and again, its not an inherently townie role.
also i posted my recent meta for zds earlier, but if you want a blind check you could look at the two most recent games on westeros.
im town in one and scum in the other.
i am william vanderbilt in gossip girl mafia and val/raven in this unnamed game with an alt switch
but tammy was in both of those (as chuck bass and hallyne/simon, respectively) and apparently im not playing like either.
you could also read mindscrew and see how i played as town, scum, and town again in the same game (modkilled, replaced back in, QT based subgame)
I just did a mini-meta! For idle reasons I went back and looked at Wolves v. Mafia which was the game I thought Vaimes was so townie in and, yeah, he was Townie as hell in that game and obviously so. Turns out, Tom was also in that game, which I totally did not remember, and he was a "Neutral" role. And I at virtually no time thought he sounded as Townie as I have thought he sounded in this game. So, either he's Town now, he was playing bad that game or he's got much better.
I see Tom has linked me some other games, but maybe he's not the one who should be doing it. Getting to pick his most comparable efforts, so to speak.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I see Tom has linked me some other games, but maybe he's not the one who should be doing it. Getting to pick his most comparable efforts, so to speak.
the point of linking you to the two westeros games was that they use alt accounts, so everyone comes in without meta.
its kind of a pure sample in that regard.
Okay, well, screw not-basing-things-on-meta for the moment, I looked at ZDS's game which just ended and Vaimes was in that and he was Townie as hell in that game too, so, either he's scum here or he just chose this one particular game to kind of stink in.
Vote: Vaimes
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
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That's not even a tiny bit of that territory. I'm not questioning whether or not he is in a few games, in fact I know two of the other games he's playing in. I trust that when someone says they're in several games at once, that they are.
You say he gets demotivated as scum, and you're taking at face value that the reason he's not posting this game is busy, which while that may be so how do you differentiate between the two? Is what he is posting when he posts what you would expect from town or scum him? Why?
I don't have much experience with scum!Proph, actually. I just know that he gets demotivated as scum because occasionally I'll read games he's in and people will usually say that about him.
I liked his early posting enough that I don't think tapering off because of offsite games really warrants being lynched.
Everyone wants me to play as well as I did in Classic. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't know how I did it, or how to do it again.
The thumbs up was because 1) Tammy was my second choice, and 2) I thought it was a +town question from Nacho.
I think what's going on here is that people are getting on my case for being a bit of a sheep, which was pretty much my entire playstyle until recently. I still sheep people! Though not as much, and ideally, I can break away from that completely one of these days. I'm working on the confidence thing.
Okay, well, screw not-basing-things-on-meta for the moment, I looked at ZDS's game which just ended and Vaimes was in that and he was Townie as hell in that game too, so, either he's scum here or he just chose this one particular game to kind of stink in.
Vote: Vaimes
I don't know what game you're reading, but I'd hardly call that game super townie for me. The scumteam got narrowed down pretty quick and I pretty much sheeped Iso the entire time because I remembered how Stargate went down.
I will freely admit to becoming complacent with the early townreads, especially when the game is dragging. All I want is a tom lynch, I can almost taste it. Please? Please.
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Oh Lord, don't "thank" me. Unless you want me to immediately start second guessing myself.
I think I might prefer a Proph lynch to a Vaimes lynch in point of fact at this very second, but that doesn't seem realistic.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I have such little time for this game right now that I am willing to take the hero mislynch if you guys promise to solve the game Tomorrow.
I am willing to bet like 90% that when I go into the spectator chat all of my townreads will be WRONG WRONG WRONG and will be the scumteam.
I mean, this is super unimpressive.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ftr I think proph is town with Vaimes flipping scum.
Gl!
You want to explain the logic on that one?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Even if Vaimes is scum, there's definitely more than 1 scum alive (lol). The world doesn't end in apocalytpic flames even if a scum!Vaimes survives toDay.
Unless you hard-town!read Tom AND Proph, there's no point in whining about being alone on Vaimes and refusing to move your vote
Proph: pick one that isn't totally awful.
tomsloger (4): Nachomamma8, Prophylaxis, Vaimes, CitricBase (L-2)
Vaimes (1): Seppel
Prophylaxis (3): tomsloger, ZeDorkSlipeur, Fable07
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if you really want to lynch me, just promise youll get proph tomorrow.
(or maybe tonight mr vig)
citric: Cop
Nacho: Was addressed by Iso
Tammy: Cleared by Citric
Axelrod: The early D1 pig debacle.
LEANTOWN
ZDS: Deep scum candidate.
DON'T KNOW
Proph: Somehow I've forgotten my read on him.
Fable: Vaimes flipping scum makes this a really weird gray area.
LEANSCUM
Tom: Said Oink, had repeated bad posts.
SCUM
Vaimes: "fable is scum cuz idek"
Good luck pushing a suboptimal lynch without me.
I was going to ask what you are getting at here. So what if you are town-reading Nacho, who do you think people should be voting for? I see that shortly after this you said the only considerations should be Proph or yourself, which I find strange. Like, if this was a situation where one or the other of your had to be scum, that would be one thing, but I don't think this is that situation.
Who else besides Proph? (sorry if you have said this already, but I'm not reading back right now.)
Um, yeah. Agreement. Vaimes or Die is a terrible attitude.
@Seppel: is basically your entire case the fact that Vaimes said that he believed you believed something? I mean, I understand, and even agree that his line was sketchy, but I don't think it's as slam dunk as you seem to think it is, and hardly enough to be all Vaimes-or-die-accept-no-substitutes that you seem to be.
You could claim?
I've heard people say "claiming won't help" before, and I've heard people say "claiming would be bad" before, but I've virtually never seen the situation where Townie dying without claim was actually better than if he had done it.
it has an air of look at me I read aren't I a good townie that just reads false. I've seen several scum post notes in attempt to get town read because people think it's town for some reason.
That's not even a tiny bit of that territory. I'm not questioning whether or not he is in a few games, in fact I know two of the other games he's playing in. I trust that when someone says they're in several games at once, that they are.
You say he gets demotivated as scum, and you're taking at face value that the reason he's not posting this game is busy, which while that may be so how do you differentiate between the two? Is what he is posting when he posts what you would expect from town or scum him? Why?
@Anyone: How is that not a slam dunk case?
When you can't find them (or you find the garbage excuse), you may vote Vaimes.
Well, I may just take you up on that in a bit here.
Tom: Henry Oinkler
Mindreaver: Hammy Houdini (dead Townie)
Vaimes: Boarack Obama
Seppel: The Baconator
Axelrod: Pepper O'Nead
Nacho: Refused
Fable: James Sowson
TappingStones/Proph: Al Capork
Huntzilla: Patrick Swineszey (dead Townie)
Matowar/Citric: Pork Cop
As far as I can tell, ZDS, despite being the one to kick off the flavor discussion, never actually said his name. Nor has Tammy, though she at one point claimed she had a theory about the names.
Couple theories, thoughts about this. But first I want to know if there's any reason ZDS or Tammy has for not sayin, at least at this point.
Before I started my vague feelings about Vaimes were that he started off pretty strong, and read pretty Townie, but then he kind of checked out and lately he hasn't done much of anything at all, so I no longer had a good Townie read on him.
Though I have grown to detest all the meta-gaming that happens these days and how much of every argument is "so-and-so was/wasn't like this in X game before...." my own "meta" on Vaimes is that in I think the one time I played a game with him he was super-strong and super-Townie from the moment he entered and the scum basically had to kill him on N1 because he was never, ever getting lynched.
That Vaimes is certainly not this Vaimes. But, again, I cringe at the notion of lynching people because they aren't playing like they did before.
(Incidentally, that said, I am also now somewhat concerned that Tom could be snowing me with his personality, as several people have mentioned that he still plays like this even when scum and I've not seen a scum game of his so I've got no actual comparison basis. So, someone want to link me a Tom scum-game for some kind of reference? Actually, it's possible I'll be biased if I'm reading a game I already know he's scum. So maybe you could link me TWO Tom games, and not tell me the game he was scum in, and then, oh God, maybe I'd see if I could tell any difference. That sounds like so much work though that I'm dreading the thought of it even as I'm typing it.)
Anyway, back to looking at Vaimes specifically with an eye towards his Fable interactions this game per Seppel suggestion. It seems like it kind of starts with #182 when Vaimes questions Fable on why Fable has a scum-read on him now where Fable hadn't mentioned him before.
Then there was #300 where Vaimes suggests a post of Fables could be indicative of TMI, though it wasn't a strong accusation.
Then there was #307 where Vaimes did an "ISOdive" on both Fable and Tom, and came away with the conclusion that they could both be scum.
#382 he disagrees with Proph's read on Fable (which was "pretty decent Town read") and says he dislikes Fable's lack of active, probing questions.
He's very consistent with Tom/Fable/Tammy and a side of Matowar as his suspects in the early game at least.
He tells the claimed Cop that Fable would be a good check.
I am not a huge fan of how he has linked Fable and Tom together so early and apparently decided they are both scum looking at their interactions (or non-interactions) with each other. Pretty weak, I agree.
(@Seppel: you were at GenCon with Vaimes. Did you sneak a peek at his computer while he wasn't looking? Do you secretly know he's scum but can't explain why? It's okay, you can tell me. I can keep a secret)
I did notice this:
Then after Citric claims his result on Tammy, Nacho gets on him in #1018 saying,
And Vaimes' response to THAT post is to give Nacho a big . So I don't understand that.
In the same post, Vaimes quotes you, Seppel and your vote for Fable, and says:
Which is more or less consistent with his attitude towards Fable up to now. But it's a little strange the way he words this and seems to be getting behind you here, i.e. agreeing with your case, as opposed to pushing one of his own, given he's already been saying he thinks Fable is scum from early D1.
Then Vaimes made the post in #1084 where he's purporting to explain his scumread on Fable, which ends up being more of a process of elimination kind of thing, he makes the post Seppel pinged him on, and the overall summary seems to just be:
And, yeah, that's actually pretty bad. That's it?
In fact, it's the overall weakness of this read on someone he's been accusing since early D1 - but without really pressing Fable in any meaningful way I can see - well into D2, and his willingness to piggy-back off of Seppel that is leading me more and more to buy this Vaimes-scum thing. That and his overall lack of reads and the relative flatness of them.
I mean, it's scum or just extreme laziness.
Ok re-evaluation on Vaimes right now, hrmm
ok.
sure, vaimes could be scum. thats all plausible.
but i did like his response to seppel. it was very "no dummy. youre reading that wrong."
@seppel
is axel's explanation close to what youve been actively not telling us for the last week?
@tammy
you might be right actually.
my whole plan today was to dazzle nacho so we can catch the scumteam together.
i may have wanted him to see i spent the night putting work in.
@axel
youre probably right about claiming.
but im still holding out hope i can actually accomplish something with it.
and that becomes far less likely if its open knowledge.
and again, its not an inherently townie role.
also i posted my recent meta for zds earlier, but if you want a blind check you could look at the two most recent games on westeros.
im town in one and scum in the other.
i am william vanderbilt in gossip girl mafia and val/raven in this unnamed game with an alt switch
but tammy was in both of those (as chuck bass and hallyne/simon, respectively) and apparently im not playing like either.
you could also read mindscrew and see how i played as town, scum, and town again in the same game (modkilled, replaced back in, QT based subgame)
vote:Vaimes
I have decided this is what we're doing so either vote with me and seppel or get good.
I see Tom has linked me some other games, but maybe he's not the one who should be doing it. Getting to pick his most comparable efforts, so to speak.
its kind of a pure sample in that regard.
Vote: Vaimes
tomsloger (4): Nachomamma8, Prophylaxis, Vaimes, CitricBase (L-2)
Vaimes (3): Seppel, Fable07, Axelrod
Prophylaxis (2): tomsloger, ZeDorkSlipeur
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(real post later, out catching Pokemon)
If noone has been lynched toMorrow, I'm literally going to immediately hammer if I can without warning. Word of warning
I liked his early posting enough that I don't think tapering off because of offsite games really warrants being lynched. Everyone wants me to play as well as I did in Classic. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't know how I did it, or how to do it again.
The thumbs up was because 1) Tammy was my second choice, and 2) I thought it was a +town question from Nacho.
I think what's going on here is that people are getting on my case for being a bit of a sheep, which was pretty much my entire playstyle until recently. I still sheep people! Though not as much, and ideally, I can break away from that completely one of these days. I'm working on the confidence thing. I don't know what game you're reading, but I'd hardly call that game super townie for me. The scumteam got narrowed down pretty quick and I pretty much sheeped Iso the entire time because I remembered how Stargate went down.
I will freely admit to becoming complacent with the early townreads, especially when the game is dragging. All I want is a tom lynch, I can almost taste it. Please? Please.
Tammy.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I am willing to bet like 90% that when I go into the spectator chat all of my townreads will be WRONG WRONG WRONG and will be the scumteam.
Oh Lord, don't "thank" me. Unless you want me to immediately start second guessing myself.
I think I might prefer a Proph lynch to a Vaimes lynch in point of fact at this very second, but that doesn't seem realistic.
I mean, this is super unimpressive.
sigh.
@proph
im not that convinced vaimes is scum, but whatever
Vote Vaimes
Any questions?
are you scum?
Is that an actual hammer?
Also, does that mean I get an actual scum lynch for my birthday?
I'm heading out but for future reference nacho, seppel and fable are town.
Nacho: shrug
For some reason I can't post the actual shrugging emoticon and it annoys me.
happy birthday tammy
We got ourselves a scum.
You're welcome.
Til tmrw!
Gl!
You want to explain the logic on that one?
Thank you!