This Chandra(who seems more fishy to me) and the necarg spot and critic. Wait
Did I just name all the lurker spots.
Alright. This game may really just be that easy.
I'm really under the opinion that either Tom or Silver should be shot today if we are lynching Shock. Please please please don't go to night and just die wasting a potential lynch that we would have today. I want the information on one of those two.
This Chandra(who seems more fishy to me) and the necarg spot and critic. Wait
Did I just name all the lurker spots.
Alright. This game may really just be that easy.
I'm really under the opinion that either Tom or Silver should be shot today if we are lynching Shock. Please please please don't go to night and just die wasting a potential lynch that we would have today. I want the information on one of those two.
I'm pretty much going to have to full claim tomorrow anyway, regardless. Don't want to say more than that right now.
Why me and Tom, though? Why not Brinatoo or Citric? Or if an extra lynch use it on a leading wagon like Chandra? It's not like the Shock flip can clear her.
I mean, wasting the vig shot is a thing
But making scum kill halftime seems pretty good for us too
I'm starting to doubt he even has it. Or if he does he doesn't want to be insta-lynched because of something surrounding it. Like this behavior is bad. I don't like how he's got only Cythare in his town circle he's willing to listen to. His amount of paranoia isn't ******* realistic. He can't be unaware that his actions are what caused the thread to die. It may not have been his intention but that's what happened... "it isn't my fault people are unwilling to play after a claim like this" Well guess you were wrong and you made an assumption... Assumptions that you are too paranoid about... yea right.
vote shockwave
The list has grown of people that are useless to solving the game imo: Shock, Chandra, Citric, Zinger, HT, KJ. KJ is literally a sheep and has offered nothing extra wrt WG. KoD has started to go down this direction...
Cythare is, to quote myself, "the towniest cat to ever meow." I wouldn't lynch ever.
I wish KoD had been more active toDay, but he's probably still just town from yesterDay.
Kosakosa, since it's out in the open now, is a Neighborizer, which perfectly explains why he tried to target Cythare and why Cythare is immune to "conversion." On the whole, he's been townie.
Obviously KJ's position is dependent entirely on Wheat's and they'll need to be sorted one way or the other before LyLo. Based on Wheat's behavior I think they're either town or they're the "outsider" group Mindreaver was speculating might exist due to the presence of Sir Chris the Eavesdropper.
Tom is Tom. It's possible he snowed me, but I liked his high-effort posts. I'd look here first for "deep" scum, but I think he's fine for now.
D_V is weird. I can't really follow his thought process (wants to vig me or tom? wut?) but I don't think he's scum.
Brinatoo... Maybe it's because the only game we've finished together he was scum. I don't want to clear him when I almost did in GoldenEye and was wrong. Call me paranoid.
Zinger is townier than Necarg, but like Tom said that's not very hard. And he's not voting.
DoTA trying to take Latinum from me without warning me after I said I would die if I had none and said I was minusing is extremely suspect... but I guess he had just cased me as scum, so maybe he was trying to kill me but thought it was a good thing? I dunno. CFC's been ok if not as active as I'd like. She's been compliant if nothing else. The role might be a neutral survivor-type or has to steal a certain amount of latinum from other Ferengi to win, or she's just new and is doing what we ask so she doesn't get lynched. Dunno.
Half_Time... I don't know. The stuff that happened recently with the vig shot and refusing to shoot toDay gives me some reservations. Modgaming, but he could be town and he was supposed to find Kosa and shoot him for being Borg, thereby throwing the town into confusion, but it's also possible he's scum and his role is to find the town Borg and give the scum team a conditional extra kill. He could also just not have it and be bluffing for the interactions, I suppose. His behavior lately seems odd and he's going to need to be sorted eventually by way of a flip or cop or something.
I think Citric is probably scum based on PoE, but it's only a gut read right now and I wouldn't even know what scum!Citric looks like. He's the only player in my nulls I have zero reservations about lynching.
Shockwave is the lynch.
@Chandra'sFieryCat:
Since we know you're a Ferengi, would you mind telling us what happens to you when you run out of latinum? I die at the end of the phase (lynch or dawn) and Brinatoo loses his vote. Please do not directly quote your role PM, just say "I die at end of phase too" or whatever so you don't get mod killed.
Hey Brian, believe it or not not everyone acts the same. That's why I take issue with the whole "town/scum perspective" people have been using this game to gauge whether or not a person is scum or not.
As it stands I've got a relatively small pool of people that I consider to be scummy (and I haven't forgotten TS turning up town despite how he acted at various points). I've gotten bad vibes from Citric because of how he reacted to me questioning him. I've gotten some bad vibes from you with your reaction to my post about latinum (seriously, my spelling of the word is no indication of alignment or anything other than me not bothering to look how to spell it correctly). Course with you, you've been playing in a pretty much Townie manner which gives me pause from chasing you with a rope. Taking shots at Mr about my spelling or how I'm going down a path you dislike doesn't do anything.
With Citric, I don't believe I've seen a lot of posts from him ever since I questioned him upon his coming into the game. Lo and behold he's lurking like some people. Perhaps there is merit to the scum team lurking.
And that's not even considering active scum trying to hide among town.
Again, I'm saying it's unnecessary to type out you don't know how to spell it when you insinuate your role does something with it and the thread has been flooded with the spelling.... Like I don't understand the argument of why you are keeping this up.
Deadline in 3 hours... I don't get this game anymore nor do I understand the motivations behind the lurkers.... I'll try to keep in touch with how things are going... Mobile posting leaving to hang with friends.
You were the first to bring it up Brin. You literally threw that out that after my post. If you want to know why I bring it up now ert to you it is because when considering your post I have to wonder what would posess you to bring up my spelling of the word while talking about my ability. Dare I say you are indirectly trying to insinuate I am lying? Or is it simply you looking out for the well-being of latnium (/sarcasm)?
Anyway that is notable to me and is something I have to keep in mind. Or, to put this in a way you'll understand, I don't see the town perspective for you replying the way you did to my original post. Savvy?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@cyth, I still don't particularly fare for DV. I get that people are town reading him based on intimate knowledge of his play but I do not have that knowledge and a few of the comments make it seem more like the behavior is DV regardless of alignment rather than strictly a town DV. Chandy, as I said before is still kinda iffy and it's more the interactions to chandy that give me pause. So while I wouldn't red ball her, I'd probably still feel comfortable with an orange or yellow ball. Tom I still don't think is town, but I don't think he is scum in a mafia sense. Still potentially a threat to town, but if we are talking strictly mafia with the red balls and not threats, I wouldn't roll one his way, even though other thoughts still stand. Most everybody else is probably grey or up even if I'm keeping a close watch on them. The exception is Shock. As I said at the start of the game I can't not scum read this guy. That's why I haven't said too much on him. As I mentioned before there are a few irksome things he has done this game though that don't rely on his behavior and with near majority calling for his lynch, I'll lend in support there.
Not Voting: Killjoy, Chandra's Fiery Cat, Zinger2099
A flash of light blinds everyone on the promenade as Q suddenly appears. He takes a look around.
"Ah, you've decided on my favourite Starfleet admiral," Q says in an over-the-top excited voice. He steps over to the encircled Shockwave before ripping the admiral's insignia off him. "You do know you're not a real admiral, right?"
"That's a stupid question," Shockwave says imperiously.
"Yes, I suppose so," Q replies dryly, rolling his eyes at having walked right into that one.
"You're not going to give him over to... her, are you?" Asks one of the station's inhabitants warily.
"Oh, heavens no," Q says. "He'd be safer with 0, and that's saying something."
As if on cue, a familiar lens filter appears over the station, but Q raises a hand sharply and it vanishes with a flash of light. "No, not today. Not while I still have to figure out where all this tachyon interference is coming from." Belatedly, he realizes the station's inhabitants have no idea what he's talking about. "All you lot need to know is that you should never ask for something new, something different from an omnipotent being. I've made that mistake twice now and we're all stuck with a maniacal sadist of a divine being. Again."
Q turns back to Shockwave and notices that he's actually managed to give Q the slip. Q barks out a laugh and snaps his fingers. Shockwave appears in front of him, hanged by his neck from the second floor like a pope-on-a-rope from the Cardassian and Dominion occupations.
"Believe me," Q says darkly as he turns his back to the rest of the station's inhabitants. He walks away slowly, quietly adding, "If I'm right, I just did him a favour."
Patrick, Mafia Lunatic has been lynched.
Night actions are due to Annorax by Monday, August 15 at 11:00 PM CST
Rax edit: Timezone standardization; not gonna take time away from you.
Day breaks again on Deep Space Nine, with the sound of a rooster screaming in pain as a Borg drone tries to assimilate it being broadcast throughout the station on the intercom. As one would expect, the number of residents on the station's gone down again. The drone was of course quickly killed by Kaga, the owner of the Klingon restaurant on the Promenade. Seems Borg don't really adapt too well to bat'leths.
Brinatoo, Rom, Unconventional Grand Nagus was not found in his quarters. The holographic security searched the station and found Rom frozen in a vat of mint chocolate chip ice cream, conveniently hidden in the freezer in the back of the Klingon restaurant. Kaga, the Klingon "chef", was dumbfounded, both at the presence of the ice cream vat in his restaurant and the presence of the freezer at all, given that he specializes in gagh, rokeg blood pie, and other live and freshly killed food.
A small pile of electronic debris was found on the floor of the main hospital wing. After a quick tricorder scan, someone determines that it was a mobile holographic emitter. Citricbase, The Doctor has been killed.
It is now Day 4. 11 alive, 6 to lynch.
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I did the stick thing for Shockwave over Night when I was trying to find a good target. Unfortunately it's practically identical to Fable's, so I think it's more activity correlated than alignment indicative. Also note we have three Days worth of data for Shockwave and not even a full Day for Fable.
Vertical is a direct interaction, like answering or asking a question directly to that person or carrying on a conversation with them.
Horizontal is just a mention, like in a reads list or something.
Lean Town
Kosakosa
Wheat_Grinder
Killjoy
tomsloger
Null
D_V
Zinger2099
Chandra’s Fiery Cat
Half_Time
Those four at the bottom are what I have left for nulls, and we still have like four mislynches plus H_T's vig or something. I kind of just want to plow through them in whatever order and win? I can't really entertain the idea of KoD as scum, unless he's scum with H_T I guess. Kosa could be, but I kind of don't think that's likely either? and maybe it's, like, you/D_V or KJ/Wheat but we have enough mislynches that once all my nulls are dead it should be pretty obvious based on who's left.
I'd prefer it if we wagon the hell out of Half till he uses his vig ability to confirm he is telling the truth. That is the only way to verify his words. I don't care who he shoots so long as he actually uses his ability today instead of holding on to it again. I honestly expected him, having claimed to have a vig shot, to be killed by the mafia, yet here he is still around.
I do not know what side halftime is on.
But either way, if the deadline is today I'd rather lynch shock
vote shockwave
Vote Shock
This Chandra(who seems more fishy to me) and the necarg spot and critic. Wait
Did I just name all the lurker spots.
Alright. This game may really just be that easy.
I'm really under the opinion that either Tom or Silver should be shot today if we are lynching Shock. Please please please don't go to night and just die wasting a potential lynch that we would have today. I want the information on one of those two.
Why me and Tom, though? Why not Brinatoo or Citric? Or if an extra lynch use it on a leading wagon like Chandra? It's not like the Shock flip can clear her.
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But making scum kill halftime seems pretty good for us too
vote shockwave
The list has grown of people that are useless to solving the game imo: Shock, Chandra, Citric, Zinger, HT, KJ. KJ is literally a sheep and has offered nothing extra wrt WG. KoD has started to go down this direction...
Probably Town
Cythare
KingofDominaria
Lean Town
Kosakosa
Wheat_Grinder
Killjoy
tomsloger
Null
D_V
Brinatoo
Zinger2099
Chandra’sFieryCat
Half_Time
CitricBase
Lean Scum
Shockwave07
I wish KoD had been more active toDay, but he's probably still just town from yesterDay.
Kosakosa, since it's out in the open now, is a Neighborizer, which perfectly explains why he tried to target Cythare and why Cythare is immune to "conversion." On the whole, he's been townie.
Obviously KJ's position is dependent entirely on Wheat's and they'll need to be sorted one way or the other before LyLo. Based on Wheat's behavior I think they're either town or they're the "outsider" group Mindreaver was speculating might exist due to the presence of Sir Chris the Eavesdropper.
Tom is Tom. It's possible he snowed me, but I liked his high-effort posts. I'd look here first for "deep" scum, but I think he's fine for now.
D_V is weird. I can't really follow his thought process (wants to vig me or tom? wut?) but I don't think he's scum.
Brinatoo... Maybe it's because the only game we've finished together he was scum. I don't want to clear him when I almost did in GoldenEye and was wrong. Call me paranoid.
Zinger is townier than Necarg, but like Tom said that's not very hard. And he's not voting.
DoTA trying to take Latinum from me without warning me after I said I would die if I had none and said I was minusing is extremely suspect... but I guess he had just cased me as scum, so maybe he was trying to kill me but thought it was a good thing? I dunno. CFC's been ok if not as active as I'd like. She's been compliant if nothing else. The role might be a neutral survivor-type or has to steal a certain amount of latinum from other Ferengi to win, or she's just new and is doing what we ask so she doesn't get lynched. Dunno.
Half_Time... I don't know. The stuff that happened recently with the vig shot and refusing to shoot toDay gives me some reservations. Modgaming, but he could be town and he was supposed to find Kosa and shoot him for being Borg, thereby throwing the town into confusion, but it's also possible he's scum and his role is to find the town Borg and give the scum team a conditional extra kill. He could also just not have it and be bluffing for the interactions, I suppose. His behavior lately seems odd and he's going to need to be sorted eventually by way of a flip or cop or something.
I think Citric is probably scum based on PoE, but it's only a gut read right now and I wouldn't even know what scum!Citric looks like. He's the only player in my nulls I have zero reservations about lynching.
Shockwave is the lynch.
Since we know you're a Ferengi, would you mind telling us what happens to you when you run out of latinum? I die at the end of the phase (lynch or dawn) and Brinatoo loses his vote. Please do not directly quote your role PM, just say "I die at end of phase too" or whatever so you don't get mod killed.
Wish I could open my notes rn but alas
As it stands I've got a relatively small pool of people that I consider to be scummy (and I haven't forgotten TS turning up town despite how he acted at various points). I've gotten bad vibes from Citric because of how he reacted to me questioning him. I've gotten some bad vibes from you with your reaction to my post about latinum (seriously, my spelling of the word is no indication of alignment or anything other than me not bothering to look how to spell it correctly). Course with you, you've been playing in a pretty much Townie manner which gives me pause from chasing you with a rope. Taking shots at Mr about my spelling or how I'm going down a path you dislike doesn't do anything.
With Citric, I don't believe I've seen a lot of posts from him ever since I questioned him upon his coming into the game. Lo and behold he's lurking like some people. Perhaps there is merit to the scum team lurking.
And that's not even considering active scum trying to hide among town.
Deadline in 3 hours... I don't get this game anymore nor do I understand the motivations behind the lurkers.... I'll try to keep in touch with how things are going... Mobile posting leaving to hang with friends.
I'll be here for deadline, but someone needs to hammer Shockwave soon or we'll end up with a No Lynch.
Anyway that is notable to me and is something I have to keep in mind. Or, to put this in a way you'll understand, I don't see the town perspective for you replying the way you did to my original post. Savvy?
I'm willing to hammer in the next couple hours if we're willing to end the day.
why didn't they already say it?
Hammer away.
unvote. Vote: shock
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That's a stupid question.
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Didn't want the town cred, etc
Not quite as good a look if shock is town, but I won't hold it against him
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Chandra's Fiery Cat (2): Shockwave07 (2005), Citricbase (2243)
Shockwave07 (8): Silvercrys3467 (1969), KingofDominaria (2228), Wheat_Grinder (2232), Cythare (2251), tomsloger (2255), D_V (2256), Brinatoo (2260), Half_Time (2271)
Half_Time (1): Kosakosa (2207)
Not Voting: Killjoy, Chandra's Fiery Cat, Zinger2099
A flash of light blinds everyone on the promenade as Q suddenly appears. He takes a look around.
"Ah, you've decided on my favourite Starfleet admiral," Q says in an over-the-top excited voice. He steps over to the encircled Shockwave before ripping the admiral's insignia off him. "You do know you're not a real admiral, right?"
"That's a stupid question," Shockwave says imperiously.
"Yes, I suppose so," Q replies dryly, rolling his eyes at having walked right into that one.
"You're not going to give him over to... her, are you?" Asks one of the station's inhabitants warily.
"Oh, heavens no," Q says. "He'd be safer with 0, and that's saying something."
As if on cue, a familiar lens filter appears over the station, but Q raises a hand sharply and it vanishes with a flash of light. "No, not today. Not while I still have to figure out where all this tachyon interference is coming from." Belatedly, he realizes the station's inhabitants have no idea what he's talking about. "All you lot need to know is that you should never ask for something new, something different from an omnipotent being. I've made that mistake twice now and we're all stuck with a maniacal sadist of a divine being. Again."
Q turns back to Shockwave and notices that he's actually managed to give Q the slip. Q barks out a laugh and snaps his fingers. Shockwave appears in front of him, hanged by his neck from the second floor like a pope-on-a-rope from the Cardassian and Dominion occupations.
"Believe me," Q says darkly as he turns his back to the rest of the station's inhabitants. He walks away slowly, quietly adding, "If I'm right, I just did him a favour."
Patrick, Mafia Lunatic has been lynched.
Night actions are due to Annorax by Monday, August 15 at 11:00 PM CST
Rax edit: Timezone standardization; not gonna take time away from you.
Brinatoo, Rom, Unconventional Grand Nagus was not found in his quarters. The holographic security searched the station and found Rom frozen in a vat of mint chocolate chip ice cream, conveniently hidden in the freezer in the back of the Klingon restaurant. Kaga, the Klingon "chef", was dumbfounded, both at the presence of the ice cream vat in his restaurant and the presence of the freezer at all, given that he specializes in gagh, rokeg blood pie, and other live and freshly killed food.
A small pile of electronic debris was found on the floor of the main hospital wing. After a quick tricorder scan, someone determines that it was a mobile holographic emitter. Citricbase, The Doctor has been killed.
It is now Day 4. 11 alive, 6 to lynch.
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Or was one of those yours?
I killed Citric.
I think I would've hit CFC, but meh.
Otherwise, well...
Unless there is a cult, in which case we're totally ****ed by now.
I'll need to confirm some stuff with the mod to figure this out.
But, yeah that's my initial impression.
I read something wrong, and misinterpreted he got back to me fast.
Too much kill power.
I have a vig shot I can charge up. H_T has a vig shot (maybe). Mongoose had a vig shot.
If there's an SK they copied my target or the NK.
If you're the deep scum never kill me. You'll win.
Fake edit: we cross posted.
You're going to look at me with a straight face and say that Brintoo was the mafia kill last night?
I don't think there is tho
But citric was firmly in the lynchable pool. He was definitely not the mafia kill.
You should use your vig ability.
Horizontal is just a mention, like in a reads list or something.
Assuming I did it right, that is.
But yeah, we both have hella vertical lines lol.
so do we wagon halftime til he shoots?
or just skip it and lynch CFC?
Probably Town
Cythare
KingofDominaria
Lean Town
Kosakosa
Wheat_Grinder
Killjoy
tomsloger
Null
D_V
Zinger2099
Chandra’s Fiery Cat
Half_Time
Those four at the bottom are what I have left for nulls, and we still have like four mislynches plus H_T's vig or something. I kind of just want to plow through them in whatever order and win? I can't really entertain the idea of KoD as scum, unless he's scum with H_T I guess. Kosa could be, but I kind of don't think that's likely either? and maybe it's, like, you/D_V or KJ/Wheat but we have enough mislynches that once all my nulls are dead it should be pretty obvious based on who's left.
cyth
wheat/kj
silver
kosa
dv
kod
_________
halftime
________
zinger
cfc
i dont actually think halftime is scum, but it cant be that easy.
still also a chance, however small, you are cult leader.
Vote: Half
It's time he used it.
like, that could still happen.
but yeah, id vote halftime if he doesnt shoot soon.