Okay so it's possible I didn't think this all the way through. I've never been in a game with a cult before so I'm just kinda winging it atm. As for what we do about the cult I do have an idea. For now lets forget about the cult which I know sounds weird considering all the work I did to bring it up in the first place. The borg will assimilate someone, I ask that that person come forward about who the borg queen is, we lynch that person and I will deprogram the person who got assimilated and then boom no more cult. Easiest thing in the world.
So with that said...
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If silver is the borg queen we'll know on day 2. Or maybe the borg queen will be too scared to assimilate anyone now and that works too.
So turning to mafia hunting I still like a rhand lynch but that probably has no chance of happening so I gotta read over the game one more time. I will say I don't really like the kosa lynch and I have to look over DoTA again to see what everyone is talking about with him.
i would think cult leader is a very odd role to play.
you have no reason to act scummy in normal situations, as you dont have buddies and can literally just scumhunt like town.
but then theres this weird stimulus when people talk about your existence.
do you ignore it?
do you engage in discussion?
do you try to brush it under the rug?
do you bust into the thread like the kool aid man hunting for the real queen?
possibly a better question is how you react to being accused of that when youre town.
i think the answer is in the thread:
deflect
deflect
deflect
brinatoo:
enters the thread and sharing his reads from before he got a role pm.
i get that they wouldnt change if you didnt get new information, aka a town role pm.
but he seems excited by getting to post them.
i dont like his interaction with the cat. its very helpful without actually doing anything, and simultaneously HARD buddying.
i hate his insistence on reads being genuine. its like, duh. obviously thats the question.
makes me think his arent.
Just to clarify, yes I was talking about Kosakosa when mentioning the "More votes on TappingStones"
...And if KoD is Half-Time I have to have a serious talk with those two and the mods... Though 15377 (aka Half-Time) has been quoted claiming KoD as a younger version of himself.
...And since one of our mods on NGA has a way of looking at IP addresses... Highly unlikely.
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I need to rethink this now. I don't think you guys are right, but I don't think I am right anymore either.
@Tom, I'm pretty sure. Which leads me to believe Fable is false claiming. I need to make some maps on possible design set up tonight and look at a couple things that are bugging me before I'm 100%.
Just to clarify, yes I was talking about Kosakosa when mentioning the "More votes on TappingStones"
...And if KoD is Half-Time I have to have a serious talk with those two and the mods... Though 15377 (aka Half-Time) has been quoted claiming KoD as a younger version of himself.
...And since one of our mods on NGA has a way of looking at IP addresses... Highly unlikely.
You said Hello World, though, not Half_Time. Which is why I was confused. I guess you meant Half_Time though?
not sure what shock is talking about. but mods here can see ip stuff too.
i try not to look on this sub.
@dv as has been said (by mindreaver maybe?) even if there isnt a cult that could still be fable's role.
and hes probably still mafia.
i can totally see that being a mafia goon this game. possibly even with the bulletproof part, though if the cult is real thats a big fat no.
Sorry for the absence, works been pretty hectic since I got back from leave.
@tom: What about my posts in this game gives you the impression I'm not once again lost as all hell? My mislynch on Ace Attorney is what cost town the game, I took a bit of a confidence knock on that (I know that technically that's not 100% accurate since the other lynch candidate was also town, but I was the last town controlled flip in that game. Also doesn't help that I didn't have much confidence to begin with ).
Going back to the post where you mentioned Silver being Borg, you mentioned a cult.but never called it Borg Leader. He brought that specific title up with the capitalising etc., do you think it's a possible slip?
I'm sure there are things I'm supposed to respond to, please link or quote and I'll try and respond asap
What have done that makes me mafia? I know I'm not at the top of anyone's town list but I feel like people have been rather vague in relaying their feelings towards me. If someone could just tell me plainly why they feel I'm scummy I'd appreciate it.
What have done that makes me mafia? I know I'm not at the top of anyone's town list but I feel like people have been rather vague in relaying their feelings towards me. If someone could just tell me plainly why they feel I'm scummy I'd appreciate it.
You mean not playing the game and going after the cat to avoid real content?
Nope cat is still evil. It's null atm but still evil. Also if that's your only reason for thinking I'm scum that's pretty weak. Killjoy for instance hasn't done much either but I don't see him on people's scum lists.
So I won't even pretend to have read everything yet, but what specific behavior did Fable change?
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mindreaver tells him to focus somewhere other than the cat
he goes sure, ill focus on rhand
just a note, since that hes mentioned rhand once in passing.
i called him out on the cat stuff too, and also brought up the borg
he responds by saying he doesnt want to kill the cat, hes just messing with the cat
but hey lets talk about the borg now
the borg that he forgot about forever ago.
which totally makes sense with his claimed role.
then he gets called out for not talking about the cat anymore and goes right back to swiping at the cat.
this metaphor might be confusing because theres a cat involved, but its schroedingian behavior.
it changes when observed.
Hey it's not my fault everybody seems to think I can't do anything right. I could probably agree with people in thinking kosa was scum and get called out for that too.:frown:
It isn't really that you're doing anything wrong, it's just... you have no conviction in any of your posts. You seem happy to lynch whoever and mess with Cythare and talk about neutrals. It doesn't seem like you have any interest in finding Mafia and lynching them. You didn't even seem all that concerned with lynching me - I had to prompt you to vote me, and you (said you) thought I was the Borg Queen!
So, yeah. It's not like there's one single thing I could tell you to stop doing. I just... if you're town, please scum hunt. I can't figure out what you're doing at all - besides having fun, which is fine, but I want to win and have fun at the same time.
Necarg is a frequent target for early lynch. He is a self-confessed "terrible day one" player. He often finds himself in a very unfavorable position and struggles to stay above water. But he can be insightful at times. I think he's improving, but yeah it's really hard to tell if he's scum or just making a mistake as town.
Um excuse you I'm just making mistakes regardless of alignment.
And yes, I'm almost always either lynched day one or endgame, regardless of alignment.
I'm just going to Unvote: Fable07 while I take a nap.... with TS, if you know what I mean *wink*
Not sure how but this actually makes me more confident that necarg is town.
KoD has a meaningless manifesto where he tries to set the record straight
but he's crooked
god fable's response is awful. it's so awful that KoD might be town after all because you just don't react that way to a scumbuddy. Well that sucks to find out.
Welp there goes Yomako. So much for anyone understanding my Chang'e comment.
Mindreaver is still town
I don't have feelings on Rhand after his first post.
sayonara, page 4
There goes TS again not being TS. I want to lynch him for the exact opposite reasons as the last time I wanted to lynch him.
I'm also pretty sure that Spot has never been scum. Not that I'd rely solely on that, but it would make sense that Data's cat wouldn't be able to help mastermind a plot.
Wasn't Spot scum in the third game?
...I only just now figured out why the color of Cythare's balls matters.
Oh by the way I wanted to ask this before but I got preoccupied with the cat.
Do we have a plan to deal with the borg cult? Like are cult tells different from mafia tells?
welp there we go
oh yeah I heard about this while skimming. This is where Fable confirms himself scum because he cannot possibly be bad enough to do what he's about to do.
One of the best things about being completely oblivious to the flavor source is that I have absolutely no idea what you all are talking about. It's somehow amusing.
This is probably potentially worse than when Half-Time (as 15377 in a NGA game) early claimed a commuter variant. Use from that role has likely gone straight out the window.
Unfortunately, our EMH (reading up on Trek as this game goes on) doesn't guarentee Borg... But two? If both are truthful, the Borg threat might be true.
What are the chances of there being two anti-Borg roles both being town? Silver isn't making me nervous as town play goes.
@Searching: ...Yeah, not going to work well for me. If I have 2 hours a week using internet that isn't mobile I consider myself fortunate. Right now? Mobile only for the near future.
What are the chances of there being two anti-Borg roles both being town? Silver isn't making me nervous as town play goes.
I don't think there are two anti-Borg roles. Only Fable has claimed one. Spot has been immune to conversion, but has also been a watcher, a tracker, and probably other stuff.
I mean, we could ask Cythare to claim, but I don't think it's a good idea and how would she even claim if she was willing?
...You don't drink Latinum. Unless you want a painful and agonizing death from molten metal in your innards.
It's liquid at room temp. Go watch DS9 "who mourns for morn", spoiler alert... 1000 bricks worth of liquid latinum in his second stomach (made his hair fall out).
What is the "townie" response to being accused of being a cult leader when you aren't sure one exists? As opposed to the "cult leader" response, which I have apparently been giving up to this point. That way, you know, I can avoid being tunneled by a strong player next time and wasting his time while he tries to get me mislynched.
Yea KoD, just spent most of the day on PGO, very addicting. Also Team Valor hue.
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So with that said...
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If silver is the borg queen we'll know on day 2. Or maybe the borg queen will be too scared to assimilate anyone now and that works too.
So turning to mafia hunting I still like a rhand lynch but that probably has no chance of happening so I gotta read over the game one more time. I will say I don't really like the kosa lynch and I have to look over DoTA again to see what everyone is talking about with him.
you have no reason to act scummy in normal situations, as you dont have buddies and can literally just scumhunt like town.
but then theres this weird stimulus when people talk about your existence.
do you ignore it?
do you engage in discussion?
do you try to brush it under the rug?
do you bust into the thread like the kool aid man hunting for the real queen?
possibly a better question is how you react to being accused of that when youre town.
i think the answer is in the thread:
deflect
deflect
deflect
not that that makes any sense whatsoever.
enters the thread and sharing his reads from before he got a role pm.
i get that they wouldnt change if you didnt get new information, aka a town role pm.
but he seems excited by getting to post them.
i dont like his interaction with the cat. its very helpful without actually doing anything, and simultaneously HARD buddying.
i hate his insistence on reads being genuine. its like, duh. obviously thats the question.
makes me think his arent.
its all pretty minor tbh. but ***** adds up.
...And if KoD is Half-Time I have to have a serious talk with those two and the mods... Though 15377 (aka Half-Time) has been quoted claiming KoD as a younger version of himself.
...And since one of our mods on NGA has a way of looking at IP addresses... Highly unlikely.
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I need to rethink this now. I don't think you guys are right, but I don't think I am right anymore either.
@Tom, I'm pretty sure. Which leads me to believe Fable is false claiming. I need to make some maps on possible design set up tonight and look at a couple things that are bugging me before I'm 100%.
i try not to look on this sub.
@dv as has been said (by mindreaver maybe?) even if there isnt a cult that could still be fable's role.
and hes probably still mafia.
i can totally see that being a mafia goon this game. possibly even with the bulletproof part, though if the cult is real thats a big fat no.
Yes, meant half-time. I've played wih Hello World, but I know the two players are different on playstyle alone.
If they are the same that's some academy award winning material there.
...Sorry for the confusion.
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@tom: What about my posts in this game gives you the impression I'm not once again lost as all hell? My mislynch on Ace Attorney is what cost town the game, I took a bit of a confidence knock on that (I know that technically that's not 100% accurate since the other lynch candidate was also town, but I was the last town controlled flip in that game. Also doesn't help that I didn't have much confidence to begin with ).
Going back to the post where you mentioned Silver being Borg, you mentioned a cult.but never called it Borg Leader. He brought that specific title up with the capitalising etc., do you think it's a possible slip?
I'm sure there are things I'm supposed to respond to, please link or quote and I'll try and respond asap
What have done that makes me mafia? I know I'm not at the top of anyone's town list but I feel like people have been rather vague in relaying their feelings towards me. If someone could just tell me plainly why they feel I'm scummy I'd appreciate it.
I think probably what a few of us are waiting for, is a reaction to your JD stance, particularly quoting my *reads* as justification.
You mean not playing the game and going after the cat to avoid real content?
Yeah nothing suspicious at all.:rolleyes:
this isn't a scumread you can talk your way out of.
if youre town, just chug along and try to catch some scum.
if youre scum, well... gotcha.
@fable
what have you done to help town?
dont forget the part where he changed his tune on the cat when i called him out for it and started focusing on borg instead.
Nope cat is still evil. It's null atm but still evil. Also if that's your only reason for thinking I'm scum that's pretty weak. Killjoy for instance hasn't done much either but I don't see him on people's scum lists.
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he goes sure, ill focus on rhand
just a note, since that hes mentioned rhand once in passing.
i called him out on the cat stuff too, and also brought up the borg
he responds by saying he doesnt want to kill the cat, hes just messing with the cat
but hey lets talk about the borg now
the borg that he forgot about forever ago.
which totally makes sense with his claimed role.
then he gets called out for not talking about the cat anymore and goes right back to swiping at the cat.
this metaphor might be confusing because theres a cat involved, but its schroedingian behavior.
it changes when observed.
So, yeah. It's not like there's one single thing I could tell you to stop doing. I just... if you're town, please scum hunt. I can't figure out what you're doing at all - besides having fun, which is fine, but I want to win and have fun at the same time.
Where to start though? Oh, I know! I'll start with this.
DO ANY OF YOU REALIZE HOW SCREWED YOU ALL ARE?
Not sure how but this actually makes me more confident that necarg is town.
heh i get it
oh no it's red scum points again.
KoD has a meaningless manifesto where he tries to set the record straight
but he's crooked
god fable's response is awful. it's so awful that KoD might be town after all because you just don't react that way to a scumbuddy. Well that sucks to find out.
Welp there goes Yomako. So much for anyone understanding my Chang'e comment.
Mindreaver is still town
I don't have feelings on Rhand after his first post.
sayonara, page 4
There goes TS again not being TS. I want to lynch him for the exact opposite reasons as the last time I wanted to lynch him.
is that so
Wasn't Spot scum in the third game?
...I only just now figured out why the color of Cythare's balls matters.
man
I think mongoose is probably town. He's very earnest even his thinking is pretty simple.
whoa-hoa dota straight after mongoose. I do not like that, Sam-I-Am, I do not like that at all.
welp there we go
oh yeah I heard about this while skimming. This is where Fable confirms himself scum because he cannot possibly be bad enough to do what he's about to do.
I kinda like Silver.
whoa
threatening people to not be scum, eh
i don't feel like going to page 6, really, but I should
brutal savage rekt
not reading that huge post from KoD even if he is probably town by now
Kosa's post at the end of page 6 is good. Why is he under fire again?
I'll pick up page 7 and onwards later, again. I was starting to tend towards skim mode there.
for gods sake
figuratively, that is. not actually
moderate townread
I haven't caught up. Did you claim neutral?
(Yeah I've never seen Star Trek. Zilch. Nada.)
This is probably potentially worse than when Half-Time (as 15377 in a NGA game) early claimed a commuter variant. Use from that role has likely gone straight out the window.
Unfortunately, our EMH (reading up on Trek as this game goes on) doesn't guarentee Borg... But two? If both are truthful, the Borg threat might be true.
What are the chances of there being two anti-Borg roles both being town? Silver isn't making me nervous as town play goes.
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Then you're scum because you don't identify as town.
I mean, we could ask Cythare to claim, but I don't think it's a good idea and how would she even claim if she was willing?
then another swipe at fable prolly
In the meantime... I can't help it, got to ask our resident cat a couple of things.
Hoverboard cat scene: that post have some meat to it or is it all just a toy? *Offers out a real and toy mouse as a way of answering*
And this one is more of a joke: If I offered you catnip, what book would you bat down?
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DoTArchon (2): KingofDominaria, col_mongoose
Fable07 (4): Sir Chris, Cythare, Necarg, Wheat_Grinder
Kosakosa (4): Mindreaver, Rhand, Tappingstones, Brinatoo
col_mongoose (1): DoTArchon
TappingStones (1): Kosakosa
Not voting (7): Killjoy, Silvercrys3467, tomsloger, Shockwave07, Half_Time, Fable07, D_V
19 alive, 10 to lynch.
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@Tom-Can you provide the coherent argument for "Borg Crystal"?
Or is this somewhat on a whim?
ive made the case, just not all in one post.
tl;dr
hes a deflectasaurus. but only about one subject.
Fascinating.
I will say that my old role leads me to believe there are borg as well. I hope we can all live long and prosper.
Mods is this correct? Concerning post 558?
Everyone quit voting right now. This is the second time I could have sworn I unvoted and I stayed voting someone.
It's fixed.
Also, happy new year in a few hours. I'll leave you to ponder what that means.
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