I'm not sure I understand the question. How is one thing relevant to the other, here?
why would DV as scum not just stay on matowar?
Perhaps he recognized that Matowar was going to be lynched and wanted to appear more organic in his opposition of the idea of a Matowar lynch. Kind of a weak way of obtaining town credit, but ultimately, I think that's what his angle was.
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@WG: ISo's ability(verified because he targeted me successfully last night) is that he can target a person to either lock or unlock one of their abilities. He targeted me w/ the unlock.
A: I am already voting both of them.
B: Why are you so eager to get claims from them? Shouldn't they claim if/when they are actually in danger of being lynched? This applies to everyone, there is too much info running around this thread, scum are well prepared for targeting NK's/roleblock etc. If Wheat hadn't been pushed to claim when he did he might still be alive and we'd still have our cop role.
@WG: ISo's ability(verified because he targeted me successfully last night) is that he can target a person to either lock or unlock one of their abilities. He targeted me w/ the unlock.
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It's a Night action; the vigshot cannot be used until the following Night. I targeted DV Night 1. My Night 2 target will probably claim toMorrow.
I'd rather not die at all, much less by my own ability, but yes.
Hmph.
Fine.
Quote from Cyan »
You mean..the same Rhand that I am currently voting for?
The same Rhand you didn't respond to until DV called you out on it. Do you think we are scum together?
Quote from Iso »
PoE + shooting TS + Jury 2 chat + tom is dead
He claims to have shot tom.
Quote from WG »
Caught for wrong reasons
That might have been an actual thing at one point in time, but I feel it has been so bastardized, and pretty much been used exclusively as a shut-down to calling someone's logic "bad" that I can't actually take that seriously.
this is not gj
That is most certainly the man behind the computer of GJ. I also don't know what you mean by this.
OH MY GOD HOW IS GJ NOT LYNCHED
I am trying to be a better member of society, but big capatalized letters of "die scum die" didn't work for Cyan. I don't feel it will work for you, confirmed town or not. I would greatly appreciate it if you would look at your own wagon please. I suppose I'll do it eventually when I get bored enough, but it would mean a lot coming from you.
my best bet is chris, iso, huntz, johnny
Is this the game we are just giving each other handjobs?
Regardless, tom was still an awful shot, as I was hardcore townreading tom - especially in the jury chat, which is where D_V somehow started increasing his scum read on him?
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@WG: ISo's ability(verified because he targeted me successfully last night) is that he can target a person to either lock or unlock one of their abilities. He targeted me w/ the unlock.
Vote: Iso
You realize I was Roleblocked Night 1 right
i don't see how that changes the part i dislike about it
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[3] Iso - Vaimes, Cyan, Wheat_Grinder
[2] Sir Chris - Iso, Vaimes
[1] Rhand - Cyan
[1] Wheat_Grinder - Iso
[1] Vaimes - Sir Chris
[1] Gentleman Johnny - Wheat_Grinder
Unused Votes - Megiddo (3), Rhand (3), Wheat_Grinder (1), DoTArchon (3), Sir Chris (3), Vaimes (1), Ghosting (3), Huntzilla (3), Gentleman Johnny (3), Cyan (1), Iso (1)
Why is nothing happening here? If people don't want to send Iso to Trial, they should explain why, and offer some alternatives. Deadline is in a week and we have nothing going on.
I'm not reading much due to finals, but how is the fact GJ survived two trials despite a good number of players thinking he was scum not alarming to anyone? I guess that does assume that at least one scum was on both juries, but I don't think that's at all unlikely.
Right now I plan to reread Sir Chris and decide if he's scum (as I thought most recently), or if he's just aggressive town; the main reason for a reread being that I have a hard time seeing scum Chris make everyone hate him.
I've been reading Vaimes as more town from what I have seen, Cyan is still obvtown to me, as is Wheat obviously, Megs is leaning more town as I've said before, and that's all I have time for right now.
Have the night off work and no finals tomorrow, but I do have a lot of math homework, so hopefully I can get it done quickly and check out this game in more detail.
Okay, then I guess the other question is: Why wouldn't I target Cyan?
Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing that.
Neither would I. I'm done playing the guessing game, so, you're welcome to either fill me in so I can correct you on whatever garbage premise you're basing your vote on, or you can continue to be wrong. Your choice!
Why is nothing happening here? If people don't want to send Iso to Trial, they should explain why, and offer some alternatives. Deadline is in a week and we have nothing going on.
We could send scum to trial, instead. Like, say, Chris. For example.
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Okay, then I guess the other question is: Why wouldn't I target Cyan?
Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing that.
Neither would I. I'm done playing the guessing game, so, you're welcome to either fill me in so I can correct you on whatever garbage premise you're basing your vote on, or you can continue to be wrong. Your choice!
I don't know why you wouldn't just come out and say it instead of antagonizing the only living townfirm.
Why is nothing happening here? If people don't want to send Iso to Trial, they should explain why, and offer some alternatives. Deadline is in a week and we have nothing going on.
We could send scum to trial, instead. Like, say, Chris. For example.
Found another thing I don't like about Iso. Two days ago:
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Why is nothing happening here? If people don't want to send Iso to Trial, they should explain why, and offer some alternatives. Deadline is in a week and we have nothing going on.
*****, it's only a week away? I'll reread more quickly.
Okay, then I guess the other question is: Why wouldn't I target Cyan?
Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing that.
Neither would I. I'm done playing the guessing game, so, you're welcome to either fill me in so I can correct you on whatever garbage premise you're basing your vote on, or you can continue to be wrong. Your choice!
So why didn't you target Cyan? It's not a question I would have asked, but you seem to think it's an important question so let's hear the answer.
I think you're scum because it doesn't make sense that you'd target me for unlock on Night 1. At all. Not even a little.
We could send scum to trial, instead. Like, say, Chris. For example.
I DID target Cyan. What the hell are you talking about?
As for why target you...gee, I dunno - because you claimed to be the Cop, and you get a double use of your ability when you're put on jury, which is effectively what my ability results in minus the jury part?
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Vaimes is so aggressive this game. Sometimes I just don't know what to make of it. But if he really had multiple vig shots to give out(from the way he's talking today, I guess we'll find out about this tomorrow), it's hard to see him being mafia. Maybe he's some kind of Hitman/SK variant?
I DID target Cyan. What the hell are you talking about?
As for why target you...gee, I dunno - because you claimed to be the Cop, and you get a double use of your ability when you're put on jury, which is effectively what my ability results in minus the jury part?
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and that almost makes me suddenly inclined to think he's town. I'll go with Iso, Huntz, GJ as my top picks to send to trial.
And now that Chris is back to normal it makes me wonder - why do I think he's town for doing something so blatantly un-Chris? Or maybe the real Chris shined through for a moment and disappeared immediately under the guise of my favorite actor.
Goodbye, MTGS Mafia Subforum. It's been a fun 11 years, but this is not the type of abuse that I am willing to take.
I've felt exactly this many a time. It's part of the reason this is my only game here in 2016. Or maybe it's one of only two? I can't remember when the invitational was.
Oh and by the way, we still don't have a single person willing to stand behind their Meggido vote to the jury. What does that mean to anyone? Like, were all the scum on him?
*sigh*
meg is being set up so hard. Did all the scum vote for him or otherwise elect him in? Probably. But he's not scum.
ugh seppel what are you doing
there goes 33
I don't feel strongly on Vaimes. Just in general.
iso comes to the exact assbackwards conclusion about GJ and Chris, so I'm beginning to feel better about Chris.
A few posts later, and I'm not fully convinced. Chris believes what he's saying. He did some weird ***** earlier but right now I am looking at a town Chris.
Jesus christ, every time I post something groundbreaking and mindblowing literally nobody reacts to it. Maybe THAT'S why I'm not leaving an impression on you people. Ever consider that?
@Iso: You're one of the towniest people here. I don't even think I've disagreed with you on anything.
what the ****?
Praise God, the voice of reason did not replace out.
nope nope nope GJ doesn't believe this ***** he just does not.
There's something fundamentally different between how Chris and GJ are acting - Chris got pissed as ***** and it felt genuine, but GJ feels like an act of "just get it over with". GJ knows he's caught and useless for the rest of the game, just wants out because he knows deep down he deserves it because he is in fact scum. Chris knew he didn't deserve that fate because he's town.
Sayonara, 35
...iso just repeated himself
my god
seppel said "I kind of want Cyan to get lynched over GJ today anyway, HONESTLY. I think he's ACTUALLY more likely to be scum." **** off with that, you know that it's bull*****.
because there are never doctors in mafia games, ever
how silly of me to assume that a protective role would exist in a mafia game
and that they would be competent enough to target the cop
seems legit
when is unlocking the cop's ability to use his...well, ability, twice every Night through the game ever not the first action to take with my role?
I know better than that. I remember that time you killed me just as I was becoming confirmed one game because you saw through it all and realized there was no doc.
@Vaimes: I was looking at your wagon analysis post. Why is Huntz colored as confirmed town?
@Cyan: do you think an SK/Hitman variant that gives away his shots is a legit role?
@Wheat: what do you think about Chris's Vaimes vote toDay?
I think I would've targetted you as well if I had Iso's role. You were a too obvious kill target to actually get killed. Your role would attract docs and watchers if they were in the game. I get the feeling you want Iso to be scum.
I agree on the other two though. Can you explain more why Chris is town?
[3] Iso - Vaimes, Cyan, Wheat_Grinder
[2] Sir Chris - Iso, Vaimes
[2] Huntzilla - Wheat_Grinder, Rhand
[1] Rhand - Cyan
[1] Wheat_Grinder - Iso
[1] Vaimes - Sir Chris
[1] Gentleman Johnny - Wheat_Grinder
Unused Votes - Megiddo (3), Rhand (2), DoTArchon (3), Sir Chris (3), Vaimes (1), Ghosting (3), Huntzilla (3), Gentleman Johnny (3), Cyan (1), Iso (1)
@Wheat: what do you think about Chris's Vaimes vote toDay?
I didn't see where the vote happened, but it's unlikely to deter me.
I think I would've targetted you as well if I had Iso's role. You were a too obvious kill target to actually get killed. Your role would attract docs and watchers if they were in the game. I get the feeling you want Iso to be scum.
That would make you a fool, and Iso is not.
I agree on the other two though. Can you explain more why Chris is town?
The bit where I describe the difference between Chris and GJ is about the most succinct I can get. Chris got into a position where he was reacting very genuinely to the *****ty situation he was in, as compared to GJ reacting very fakely. The difference in mindset is night and day.
I am trying to help you here buddy. This isn't going to work. What is this even a reference to?
nope nope nope GJ doesn't believe this ***** he just does not.
Again, to what?
GJ knows he's caught and useless for the rest of the game, just wants out because he knows deep down he deserves it because he is in fact scum. Chris knew he didn't deserve that fate because he's town.
Considering you were scum with me in Star Trek, am I really the person to just tag out like that? Come on, I thought we had lost several times that game and I still fought on.
But since it's against johnny...probably seppel isn't scum?
36 is good enough for me.
Comrade, if I am such a strong scum read, and you admit that post is bad, how is your logic now "if anything, Seppel is throwing GJ under a bus as fast as possible"?
Chris got into a position where he was reacting very genuinely to the *****ty situation he was in, as compared to GJ reacting very fakely.
Put yourself in my former mask's shoes: How do you respond to Cyan's bravado if you are town? Logic doesn't work, because logic was slapped out of the fricken bus from before day 1 even started. There is a shard to my personality that loathes arrogance. Particularly the whole "You're scum", "he has to be scum" (you can ask Iso, we have talked about this before to confirm I despise this). There is nothing I want more to simply flip and watch the naysayers stagger at how wrong they were.
I am not going to pretend SC is infallible. But from both perspectives, I have to be town, or I was simply so good, I fooled two of the best scum hunters here, but somehow got caught by everyone else. Or, SC is scum trying to hold tight to his buddy, in which my flip (which has had an insanely large amount of probability to occur in the last few days) would have condemned him.
Which is yet another reason why you're town and Chris is scum.
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@Wheat: No, I killed you in that game because I knew you were the Cop AND that the Doc was going to target me that Night. Given that my Jury performance was pretty underwhelming, there was no reason for me to think that any protective role would not target you, the claimed Cop, on Night 1.
Additionally, you're supposing that I somehow psychically determined that there is either not a protective role, or that they would not target you on Night 1.
You are basing your argument that I am scum on information that I could not possibly have, no matter how frighteningly good I am at sniffing out power roles as scum.
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Which is yet another reason why you're town and Chris is scum.
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@Wheat: No, I killed you in that game because I knew you were the Cop AND that the Doc was going to target me that Night. Given that my Jury performance was pretty underwhelming, there was no reason for me to think that any protective role would not target you, the claimed Cop, on Night 1.
Additionally, you're supposing that I somehow psychically determined that there is either not a protective role, or that they would not target you on Night 1.
You are basing your argument that I am scum on information that I could not possibly have, no matter how frighteningly good I am at sniffing out power roles as scum.
Did you think there was another protective role out there after Ghosting claimed?
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FTR, I don't think that this conversation has any bearing on whether or not Iso is scum. The idea that, as town, he would try to unlock WG is completely believable. So is the idea that, as scum, he would lie about having targeted WG, when he really targeted some scum buddy.
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I am trying to help you here buddy. This isn't going to work. What is this even a reference to?
nope nope nope GJ doesn't believe this ***** he just does not.
Again, to what?
Literally everything, pretty much.
GJ knows he's caught and useless for the rest of the game, just wants out because he knows deep down he deserves it because he is in fact scum. Chris knew he didn't deserve that fate because he's town.
Considering you were scum with me in Star Trek, am I really the person to just tag out like that? Come on, I thought we had lost several times that game and I still fought on.
I don't recall any of the specifics of Star Trek. But I also don't think that meta defense is something that I believe.
But since it's against johnny...probably seppel isn't scum?
36 is good enough for me.
Comrade, if I am such a strong scum read, and you admit that post is bad, how is your logic now "if anything, Seppel is throwing GJ under a bus as fast as possible"?
WELCOME TO THE MIND OF THE GRINDER
Chris got into a position where he was reacting very genuinely to the *****ty situation he was in, as compared to GJ reacting very fakely.
Put yourself in my former mask's shoes: How do you respond to Cyan's bravado if you are town? Logic doesn't work, because logic was slapped out of the fricken bus from before day 1 even started. There is a shard to my personality that loathes arrogance. Particularly the whole "You're scum", "he has to be scum" (you can ask Iso, we have talked about this before to confirm I despise this). There is nothing I want more to simply flip and watch the naysayers stagger at how wrong they were.
What the **** does any of the first half of that mean
you're a mask now
you're a shard now
Anyway, like, I get pissed at this ***** and give up too but you are doing so in a matter that does not at all feel genuine.
I am not going to pretend SC is infallible. But from both perspectives, I have to be town, or I was simply so good, I fooled two of the best scum hunters here, but somehow got caught by everyone else. Or, SC is scum trying to hold tight to his buddy, in which my flip (which has had an insanely large amount of probability to occur in the last few days) would have condemned him.
Appeal to authority has been overturned. In the meantime, I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.
Which is yet another reason why you're town and Chris is scum.
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@Wheat: No, I killed you in that game because I knew you were the Cop AND that the Doc was going to target me that Night. Given that my Jury performance was pretty underwhelming, there was no reason for me to think that any protective role would not target you, the claimed Cop, on Night 1.
Additionally, you're supposing that I somehow psychically determined that there is either not a protective role, or that they would not target you on Night 1.
You are basing your argument that I am scum on information that I could not possibly have, no matter how frighteningly good I am at sniffing out power roles as scum.
Leaving aside the psychic bit because quite frankly yes it's a little silly: Why Night 1? That seems like a silly time.
Wheat: "When I'm put on Jury, my ability to use my ability twice a Night instead of once a Night is unlocked!"
Iso: "Well okay, then I guess it would make sense to target you as soon as possible to unlock that ability so that you can use it twice every Night following Night 1 instead of once every Night!"
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If you only get the double shot on the Night you're on Jury or the Night after I Unlock you, I am going to punch you through the ******* internet for not saying that on Day 1 and making a goddamn humongous deal over my interpretation of your ambiguous claim.
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I don't really think he is scum at this point. His responses to me here feel more..heartfelt and sincere, and in a way that his responses to me in other games(where he was scum) did not.
God have I said yet that I'm really glad Cyan is in this game
please listen to everything cyan says when i'm forcibly unchanneled again
wait what the ****, GJ has been arrested TWICE now and not lynched
what the **** is wrong with you all
The jury chat is too big to read but it hints a lot more strongly towards those jury members not being scum on volume alone.
Wheat: "When I'm put on Jury, my ability to use my ability twice a Night instead of once a Night is unlocked!"
Iso: "Well okay, then I guess it would make sense to target you as soon as possible to unlock that ability so that you can use it twice every Night following Night 1 instead of once every Night!"
If you only get the double shot on the Night you're on Jury or the Night after I Unlock you, I am going to punch you through the ******* internet for not saying that on Day 1 and making a goddamn humongous deal over my interpretation of your ambiguous claim.
I ******* said that I only get that ***** for one night you ****er - that's why I didn't want to be on the jury day 2. You don't make ****ups like this, explain how you did not know this.
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Perhaps he recognized that Matowar was going to be lynched and wanted to appear more organic in his opposition of the idea of a Matowar lynch. Kind of a weak way of obtaining town credit, but ultimately, I think that's what his angle was.
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Cyan.
Vote: Iso
dota was literally the only person in the N1 jury chat who probably isn't scum
thank god for anaklusmos
i could see huntz maybe but i don't feel it, not yet
yep dota isn't scum. I don't have anything to point at for that, I just feel it in my bones.
ghosting probably isn't scum. which is amazing, because wasn't he scum earlier this game?
no
I immediately unfeel everything about dota
ts thinks like dota so i refeel dota grudgingly
**** me how was ts town
that's 29
i am literally praising jesus that cyan is in this game almost every time he makes a post
OH MY GOD HOW IS GJ NOT LYNCHED
Vote: GJ
Vaimes is bait, he's not scum. He's the one they want us to believe is scum.
**** me dota why do you do this *****
that's 30
huntz' claim is lame, but i think he's one that the scum want us to think is scum
Wheat_Grinder thanks this post!
(but he's still scum)
ah **** me huntz actually is scum. His deterioration is not townie deterioration.
i have to re-evaluate - there are 4 scum right?
that's 31
i want to think seppel is scum but when i reconsider that he's nuts, but the complete opposite nuts from me I can deal with it
dota wants me to think he's scum but he's not.
so ends tonight's read.
You realize I was Roleblocked Night 1 right
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hmph.
Fine.
The same Rhand you didn't respond to until DV called you out on it. Do you think we are scum together?
He claims to have shot tom.
That might have been an actual thing at one point in time, but I feel it has been so bastardized, and pretty much been used exclusively as a shut-down to calling someone's logic "bad" that I can't actually take that seriously.
That is most certainly the man behind the computer of GJ. I also don't know what you mean by this.
I am trying to be a better member of society, but big capatalized letters of "die scum die" didn't work for Cyan. I don't feel it will work for you, confirmed town or not. I would greatly appreciate it if you would look at your own wagon please. I suppose I'll do it eventually when I get bored enough, but it would mean a lot coming from you.
Is this the game we are just giving each other handjobs?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Regardless, tom was still an awful shot, as I was hardcore townreading tom - especially in the jury chat, which is where D_V somehow started increasing his scum read on him?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
i don't see how that changes the part i dislike about it
you don't exactly slumber when it comes to cucumber
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The Blue Badger ~ I Want to Defend!
[3] Iso - Vaimes, Cyan, Wheat_Grinder
[2] Sir Chris - Iso, Vaimes
[1] Rhand - Cyan
[1] Wheat_Grinder - Iso
[1] Vaimes - Sir Chris
[1] Gentleman Johnny - Wheat_Grinder
Unused Votes - Megiddo (3), Rhand (3), Wheat_Grinder (1), DoTArchon (3), Sir Chris (3), Vaimes (1), Ghosting (3), Huntzilla (3), Gentleman Johnny (3), Cyan (1), Iso (1)
With 11 on the case, it's 6 votes to arrest.
Deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd.
Huntzilla is V/LA until Thursday.
Previous: 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, 1.17, 1.18, 1.19, 1.20
2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12
3.1, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3
Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing that.
Right now I plan to reread Sir Chris and decide if he's scum (as I thought most recently), or if he's just aggressive town; the main reason for a reread being that I have a hard time seeing scum Chris make everyone hate him.
I've been reading Vaimes as more town from what I have seen, Cyan is still obvtown to me, as is Wheat obviously, Megs is leaning more town as I've said before, and that's all I have time for right now.
Have the night off work and no finals tomorrow, but I do have a lot of math homework, so hopefully I can get it done quickly and check out this game in more detail.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Neither would I. I'm done playing the guessing game, so, you're welcome to either fill me in so I can correct you on whatever garbage premise you're basing your vote on, or you can continue to be wrong. Your choice!
We could send scum to trial, instead. Like, say, Chris. For example.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't know why you wouldn't just come out and say it instead of antagonizing the only living townfirm.
Found another thing I don't like about Iso. Two days ago:
Less than a day ago:
Either a fake slip or not paying attention to the game.
More votes on Iso please.
Also, I have no idea what your first thing is even saying. What am I supposed to outright say? I don't understand.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I might have misread that. >_>
Your head just doesn't seem to be in the game at all.
*****, it's only a week away? I'll reread more quickly.
So why didn't you target Cyan? It's not a question I would have asked, but you seem to think it's an important question so let's hear the answer.
I think you're scum because it doesn't make sense that you'd target me for unlock on Night 1. At all. Not even a little.
I like the idea of both you and Chris on trial.
As for why target you...gee, I dunno - because you claimed to be the Cop, and you get a double use of your ability when you're put on jury, which is effectively what my ability results in minus the jury part?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
it's the wrong time and i was guaranteed to die
try again
how silly of me to assume that a protective role would exist in a mafia game
and that they would be competent enough to target the cop
seems legit
when is unlocking the cop's ability to use his...well, ability, twice every Night through the game ever not the first action to take with my role?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
and that almost makes me suddenly inclined to think he's town. I'll go with Iso, Huntz, GJ as my top picks to send to trial.
And now that Chris is back to normal it makes me wonder - why do I think he's town for doing something so blatantly un-Chris? Or maybe the real Chris shined through for a moment and disappeared immediately under the guise of my favorite actor.
there goes 32
I've felt exactly this many a time. It's part of the reason this is my only game here in 2016. Or maybe it's one of only two? I can't remember when the invitational was.
Meanwhile, my GOD is GJ scum.
*sigh*
meg is being set up so hard. Did all the scum vote for him or otherwise elect him in? Probably. But he's not scum.
ugh seppel what are you doing
there goes 33
I don't feel strongly on Vaimes. Just in general.
iso comes to the exact assbackwards conclusion about GJ and Chris, so I'm beginning to feel better about Chris.
A few posts later, and I'm not fully convinced. Chris believes what he's saying. He did some weird ***** earlier but right now I am looking at a town Chris.
Wheat_Grinder thanks this post!
Byebye, 34.
I think Dota believes things that are bad. That doesn't make him scum.
Such as?
what the ****?
Praise God, the voice of reason did not replace out.
nope nope nope GJ doesn't believe this ***** he just does not.
There's something fundamentally different between how Chris and GJ are acting - Chris got pissed as ***** and it felt genuine, but GJ feels like an act of "just get it over with". GJ knows he's caught and useless for the rest of the game, just wants out because he knows deep down he deserves it because he is in fact scum. Chris knew he didn't deserve that fate because he's town.
Sayonara, 35
...iso just repeated himself
my god
seppel said "I kind of want Cyan to get lynched over GJ today anyway, HONESTLY. I think he's ACTUALLY more likely to be scum." **** off with that, you know that it's bull*****.
This seppel post is actually bull*****
But since it's against johnny...probably seppel isn't scum?
36 is good enough for me.
Unvote all, vote: Iso, Huntz, GJ
I know better than that. I remember that time you killed me just as I was becoming confirmed one game because you saw through it all and realized there was no doc.
The bolded is not something you believe.
@Cyan: do you think an SK/Hitman variant that gives away his shots is a legit role?
@Wheat: what do you think about Chris's Vaimes vote toDay?
I think I would've targetted you as well if I had Iso's role. You were a too obvious kill target to actually get killed. Your role would attract docs and watchers if they were in the game. I get the feeling you want Iso to be scum.
I agree on the other two though. Can you explain more why Chris is town?
vote GJ, vote Hunt
Search ~ In the Midst 2002
[3] Iso - Vaimes, Cyan, Wheat_Grinder
[2] Sir Chris - Iso, Vaimes
[2] Huntzilla - Wheat_Grinder, Rhand
[1] Rhand - Cyan
[1] Wheat_Grinder - Iso
[1] Vaimes - Sir Chris
[1] Gentleman Johnny - Wheat_Grinder
Unused Votes - Megiddo (3), Rhand (2), DoTArchon (3), Sir Chris (3), Vaimes (1), Ghosting (3), Huntzilla (3), Gentleman Johnny (3), Cyan (1), Iso (1)
With 11 on the case, it's 6 votes to arrest.
Deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd.
Huntzilla is V/LA until Thursday.
Previous: 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, 1.17, 1.18, 1.19, 1.20
2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12
3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4
I didn't see where the vote happened, but it's unlikely to deter me.
That would make you a fool, and Iso is not.
The bit where I describe the difference between Chris and GJ is about the most succinct I can get. Chris got into a position where he was reacting very genuinely to the *****ty situation he was in, as compared to GJ reacting very fakely. The difference in mindset is night and day.
I am trying to help you here buddy. This isn't going to work. What is this even a reference to?
Again, to what?
Considering you were scum with me in Star Trek, am I really the person to just tag out like that? Come on, I thought we had lost several times that game and I still fought on.
Comrade, if I am such a strong scum read, and you admit that post is bad, how is your logic now "if anything, Seppel is throwing GJ under a bus as fast as possible"?
Put yourself in my former mask's shoes: How do you respond to Cyan's bravado if you are town? Logic doesn't work, because logic was slapped out of the fricken bus from before day 1 even started. There is a shard to my personality that loathes arrogance. Particularly the whole "You're scum", "he has to be scum" (you can ask Iso, we have talked about this before to confirm I despise this). There is nothing I want more to simply flip and watch the naysayers stagger at how wrong they were.
I am not going to pretend SC is infallible. But from both perspectives, I have to be town, or I was simply so good, I fooled two of the best scum hunters here, but somehow got caught by everyone else. Or, SC is scum trying to hold tight to his buddy, in which my flip (which has had an insanely large amount of probability to occur in the last few days) would have condemned him.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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@Wheat: No, I killed you in that game because I knew you were the Cop AND that the Doc was going to target me that Night. Given that my Jury performance was pretty underwhelming, there was no reason for me to think that any protective role would not target you, the claimed Cop, on Night 1.
Additionally, you're supposing that I somehow psychically determined that there is either not a protective role, or that they would not target you on Night 1.
You are basing your argument that I am scum on information that I could not possibly have, no matter how frighteningly good I am at sniffing out power roles as scum.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Did you think there was another protective role out there after Ghosting claimed?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Like, there's no other way in which Chris could have gotten his ability off (as GJ has confirmed) unless he was the one doing the blocking.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Proph: Can players use a regular ability and a Jury ability in the same Night?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Literally everything, pretty much.
I don't recall any of the specifics of Star Trek. But I also don't think that meta defense is something that I believe.
WELCOME TO THE MIND OF THE GRINDER
What the **** does any of the first half of that mean
you're a mask now
you're a shard now
Anyway, like, I get pissed at this ***** and give up too but you are doing so in a matter that does not at all feel genuine.
Appeal to authority has been overturned. In the meantime, I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.
Leaving aside the psychic bit because quite frankly yes it's a little silly: Why Night 1? That seems like a silly time.
Iso: "Well okay, then I guess it would make sense to target you as soon as possible to unlock that ability so that you can use it twice every Night following Night 1 instead of once every Night!"
Is that not how your ability works?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
God have I said yet that I'm really glad Cyan is in this game
please listen to everything cyan says when i'm forcibly unchanneled again
wait what the ****, GJ has been arrested TWICE now and not lynched
what the **** is wrong with you all
The jury chat is too big to read but it hints a lot more strongly towards those jury members not being scum on volume alone.
Are we just not doing phrasing anymore?
So like GJ has supposedly checked out of the game
but he's fighting so ******* hard right now with ridiculous postcounts.
I don't believe it.
THat's from Johnny. But doesn't that invalidate what Johnny said just now?
for the love of god lynch him already
i'm past 39
By the way, I believe DV is town.
**** the state of mtgs that this gets warned
tom i'm glad you and your alter ego died as penance for screwing up the lynch
I voted for Cyan
But you already knew that
AND THEN I WAS ALIVE AGAIN
I only get it that Night
I ******* said that I only get that ***** for one night you ****er - that's why I didn't want to be on the jury day 2. You don't make ****ups like this, explain how you did not know this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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