you may be shocked to hear this, but i dont really have the context to give you an answer.
if you really want a number, heres a 4. but only so you can say what you could possibly glean from that.
I care what everyone thinks, young scholar. Not necessarily about myself, mind you. But like I said, I do find Rhand's questions suspect, and his response of per-emitive OMGUS bothers me even more.
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why would you care what i think? the fact you feel the need to get me to explain when i clearly have no idea what im doing is just making it worse.
Because regardless of how faulty your logic is, trying to understand it will better help me to get a read on you. Every post made always has a goal, and it is our job to figure out the goal.
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I'd expect 4 strong scum or 5 very weak scum in a game of this size, but the last league game I was in had 3 in this size so I don't really know how guessing is going to help. Actually, assuming team size really screwed town last game so yeah I am not bothering for numbers day 1.
5 seems too much? I would guess 4.
I agree on that last sentence. That game was lost due to those assumptions.
How about we get on track here? Any reads yet (question open to all).
Not yet, but im honestly giving this very little attention because of another ongoing game and because my thought process works better for me initially from the observer perspective.
@Sepiral: It's called scum hunting. What part of this is circle jerking. Do you not consider empty questions to be considered suspicious?
When i first saw this post i misunderstood the context/meaning. I call it a circle jerk because it just seems like a bunch of people posturing around, i didnt glean anything from it. Empty questions can be just as town motivated as they can be scum, it depends on what develops from them, so far i can only say null.
@Everyone: How many Scum do you believe are in a game this size? I need everyone to answer this question.
I would say 3+1 or 4, i didnt even consider the idea of 5 weak scums... seems like such a boring idea with such a dumb chance of ending with a scum win (slightly less than 33% scum is broken even if the scum is all goons)
@Everyone: I'm asking this question for a important reason. I will explain once everyone has answered my question in a serious way.
Tordeck: I'm willing to except that answer, but I would much prefer a number answer from you. Keep in mind that I already have a number in my head based on the amount players. Which means that I am not asking for that reason.
New to Mafia. I have no clue what the norm would be...3-4?
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I am inclinded to believe there are no negative neutral roles, due to the opening post:
*The Town's win condition is: Wipe out the Alpha Predator Tribe before they hunt you into extinction!
*The Mafia's win condition is: Equal or outnumber the other living players.
/barn
Unvote That vote has served its purpose.
@Void I'll say 3 mafioso with a survivor/other non-killing neutral, because apparently weird ******* setups are in vogue.
If it's a clan, I'm quitting MTGS. Though I'm probably the last game mod to have a cult.
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Tordeck: I'm willing to except that answer, but I would much prefer a number answer from you. Keep in mind that I already have a number in my head based on the amount players. Which means that I am not asking for that reason.
Assuming a specific number has lost games for towns in the past, hence why I do not support gaming the set-up like you or Frosty are doing.
Tordeck: I'm willing to except that answer, but I would much prefer a number answer from you. Keep in mind that I already have a number in my head based on the amount players. Which means that I am not asking for that reason.
Assuming a specific number has lost games for towns in the past, hence why I do not support gaming the set-up like you or Frosty are doing.
Modgaming has a time and a place. This early is not the time, but this game may be the place.
Previous votecount fixed. If you see any other errors, feel free to point them out - it wouldn't be an Iso game if I didn't screw up the votecounts in some way!
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I am inclinded to believe there are no negative neutral roles, due to the opening post:
*The Town's win condition is: Wipe out the Alpha Predator Tribe before they hunt you into extinction!
*The Mafia's win condition is: Equal or outnumber the other living players.
/barn
Unvote That vote has served its purpose.
@Void I'll say 3 mafioso with a survivor/other non-killing neutral, because apparently weird ******* setups are in vogue.
If it's a clan, I'm quitting MTGS. Though I'm probably the last game mod to have a cult.
I am inclinded to believe there are no negative neutral roles, due to the opening post:
*The Town's win condition is: Wipe out the Alpha Predator Tribe before they hunt you into extinction!
*The Mafia's win condition is: Equal or outnumber the other living players.
/barn
Unvote That vote has served its purpose.
@Void I'll say 3 mafioso with a survivor/other non-killing neutral, because apparently weird ******* setups are in vogue.
If it's a clan, I'm quitting MTGS. Though I'm probably the last game mod to have a cult.
I'd believe 3 with a SK or other killing neutral. I'd believe 4. I'd believe 4 with something like a survivor. About the only thing that I wouldn't believe without seeing evidence to support it would be 5.
Are cults really that polarizing here? I know it means nothing to this game, but I'm developing a setup (which may or may not be ST MU4) that may or may not end up with one & if it really pisses people off that much, I'd rather know now & pull it while I can still rewrite.
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From what I have seen, people tend to dislike games where the mod lies to a player, or an alignment can change. Those games also tend to be super swingy, and tend to lead to bad feels all around.
@Sir Chris: Explain how any part of Rhand's post makes you feel he is more town, considering he pretty much ignored your question.
He used phrasing I use. Also he didn't ignore my question.
He explained why he felt my vote was suspicious. He didn't explain how I could possibly assume that he might vote me in the near distant future from the posts he made prior to the vote. Using Chris language hardly feels like a reason to town-clear someone..
@Tomsloger: Please explain my "shadyness".
I explained why adding the vote in that post where you were throwing my question back in my face was pre-emptive omgus. It is that exact post that made me suspicious. Are you not reading?
And about the first post in question: would you not ask someone for their read if you think they must have seen something but they didn't explain it? Oh wait, you would:
well i dont know. i was hoping to get that information from people who have played before. but fine.
i still think gentleman johnny is vaguely shifty.
and void's question is certainly something scum would want to know.
and i'd love to know jobie's "purpose" for voting me.
So, I just don't like anything tomsloger just posted. 'vaguely shifty' just sounds like scum trying to be suspicious of someone and failing, I don't understand why void's question conjures an image of scum wanting to know something at all, and I don't like the vibe I get from his comment about Jobie voting for him.
tomsloger please explain all of these weird statements with more detail.
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well i dont know. i was hoping to get that information from people who have played before. but fine.
i still think gentleman johnny is vaguely shifty.
and void's question is certainly something scum would want to know.
and i'd love to know jobie's "purpose" for voting me.
asking us what to think....that's strange.
Why not tell us your reads, reasonings and vote someone?
So, I just don't like anything tomsloger just posted. 'vaguely shifty' just sounds like scum trying to be suspicious of someone and failing, I don't understand why void's question conjures an image of scum wanting to know something at all, and I don't like the vibe I get from his comment about Jobie voting for him.
tomsloger please explain all of these weird statements with more detail.
A few things I don't like with your post Sir Chris...
The first is voting before you even give him a chance to defend against your accusations. The underlined part emphasizes how you tacked this onto the end.
The second is your inability to see his post as a noob without conviction. His lack of forceful wording is most likely due to this being his first game.
Third is the fact that the mighty Chris is snacking on newbcakes...
ive already posted why i think gentleman johnny is suspicious. nothing has changed there.
regarding void, i feel like youre being obtuse for no reason. why wouldnt scum want to know everyone's expectations as to how many there are?
he says he has a reason for the question, but until he shares it i dont see what we could gain.
as for jobie, i dont have a problem with the vote being for me. i was referencing this:
I like huntz for scum right now, he is white knighting sloger (who I also have as scummy) and doing so in the weirdest way possible.
I am all for giving new players their due, but that doesnt mean you dont pressure them when you find something odd, handwaving things away as "well he is new" is something i would see scum doing to either get town cred or save a buddy.
/vote huntz
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So, I just don't like anything tomsloger just posted. 'vaguely shifty' just sounds like scum trying to be suspicious of someone and failing, I don't understand why void's question conjures an image of scum wanting to know something at all, and I don't like the vibe I get from his comment about Jobie voting for him.
tomsloger please explain all of these weird statements with more detail.
A few things I don't like with your post Sir Chris...
The first is voting before you even give him a chance to defend against your accusations. The underlined part emphasizes how you tacked this onto the end.
The second is your inability to see his post as a noob without conviction. His lack of forceful wording is most likely due to this being his first game.
Third is the fact that the mighty Chris is snacking on newbcakes...
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2. Giving people the benefit of the doubt with no prior experience and not questioning them is bad mafia play
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@tomsloger
your wording on johnny bothered me, why would scum ask such a question? Scum, with 3-4 people, can kind of gather what people's expectations are from collective experience. A game of this size usually has a standard number of scum, ish, so why bother to bring it up in such a way?
As for Jobie I misunderstood your point, so sure.
anyway off to work.
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your wording on johnny bothered me, why would scum ask such a question? Scum, with 3-4 people, can kind of gather what people's expectations are from collective experience. A game of this size usually has a standard number of scum, ish, so why bother to bring it up in such a way?
im going to assume you mean void, not johnny.
it isnt about why scum would ask such a question, but why town would.
really, i just think its a dumb question. as evidenced by everyone having given more or less the same answer.
so wait, you are saying you took my post which was not defending you to passive aggressively complain to the one who WAS defending you, but in no way mention the one addressing you thereby making it completely ambiguous and misleading????
Okay....
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See town asks questions just to get a vibe for people sometimes. Town can be much more random and weird than scum from my experience. Now mind you it doesn't make Void ultra town, but the question in and of itself doesn't really come off as scum to me.
Also I put a comma for a reason, but I didn't make it clear. I didn't like the word usage for johnny, and then I indeed did move onto void.
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@sepiriel i guess i could have quoted his long post, but just quoting where you said what he did definitely seemed easier.
@chris is your problem that my wording isnt forceful enough? because i dont have a particularly forceful opinion, nor has he given a good reason to be certain. i used the words "vaguely shifty" because thats all hes been.
I guess it is still early, and I certainly am not one to judge based off lack of certainty, but it just seems like a weird turn of phrase to use. "vaguely shifty." I don't know, that's just an odd way to put something.
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@sepiriel i guess i could have quoted his long post, but just quoting where you said what he did definitely seemed easier.
@chris is your problem that my wording isnt forceful enough? because i dont have a particularly forceful opinion, nor has he given a good reason to be certain. i used the words "vaguely shifty" because thats all hes been.
but thats disengageous because you are cherry picking from me and the end result ended up so ambiguous that it looked like you were directly talking to me and that i was defending you.
It comes off as lazy and misleading
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@sepiriel i guess i could have quoted his long post, but just quoting where you said what he did definitely seemed easier.
@chris is your problem that my wording isnt forceful enough? because i dont have a particularly forceful opinion, nor has he given a good reason to be certain. i used the words "vaguely shifty" because thats all hes been.
but thats disengageous because you are cherry picking from me and the end result ended up so ambiguous that it looked like you were directly talking to me and that i was defending you.
It comes off as lazy and misleading
Are you accusing him of doing it on purpose to mislead us?
@rhand: You mean him cutting my post down to cherry pick a stance, then ambiguously use it to attack the guy who was defending him without actually naming him? Yeah i do say he is doing that intentionally.
As to whether it was with the intent of mislead or simply to use it as a "well sepi said it not me" kind of thing i dont know, i lean more on the opinion of misleading dishonesty since the other angle seems to basic right now
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But he starts his post with "Also"? Imo what he means is quite clear. He agrees on Hunt and "also" says that if Hunt wants to white knight him, he shouldn't do it condescendingly.
You're making it into a misleading anti-you post yourself.
If this was anyone else, I would be suspicious of you now for that self-consciousness. But I've learned not to apply that tell to you anymore.
But he starts his post with "Also"? Imo what he means is quite clear. He agrees on Hunt and "also" says that if Hunt wants to white knight him, he shouldn't do it condescendingly.
You're making it into a misleading anti-you post yourself.
If this was anyone else, I would be suspicious of you now for that self-consciousness. But I've learned not to apply that tell to you anymore.
Lol, i suppose its a good thing then.
In regards to your point, i see what you are saying but the coma right there after the also made me think he was talking to me, i dont know how else to explain it but i didnt read it as an "hey guys addendum to sepis post".
@kpaca: thats cool and all, but since its not page 8 it doesnt matter to you anyways
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leaning town on kpaca. Only so many low effort posts can be made in a row before I just assume no scum would be that ballsy tbh.
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if you really want a number, heres a 4. but only so you can say what you could possibly glean from that.
why would you care what i think? the fact you feel the need to get me to explain when i clearly have no idea what im doing is just making it worse.
you just seem... desperate to not be suspected
Because regardless of how faulty your logic is, trying to understand it will better help me to get a read on you. Every post made always has a goal, and it is our job to figure out the goal.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Hookerpunch (1): ika42
Rhand (1): Gentleman Johnny
tomsloger (1): Jobie
Jobie (1): Tordeck
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
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5 seems too much? I would guess 4.
I agree on that last sentence. That game was lost due to those assumptions.
Not yet, but im honestly giving this very little attention because of another ongoing game and because my thought process works better for me initially from the observer perspective.
It's awesome then that it was page two.
Dont believe you.
When i first saw this post i misunderstood the context/meaning. I call it a circle jerk because it just seems like a bunch of people posturing around, i didnt glean anything from it. Empty questions can be just as town motivated as they can be scum, it depends on what develops from them, so far i can only say null.
I would say 3+1 or 4, i didnt even consider the idea of 5 weak scums... seems like such a boring idea with such a dumb chance of ending with a scum win (slightly less than 33% scum is broken even if the scum is all goons)
completely unrelated but just wanted to say "good choice", honestly B:TAS is the only thing im okay circlejerking
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New to Mafia. I have no clue what the norm would be...3-4?
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Unvote That vote has served its purpose.
@Void I'll say 3 mafioso with a survivor/other non-killing neutral, because apparently weird ******* setups are in vogue.
If it's a clan, I'm quitting MTGS. Though I'm probably the last game mod to have a cult.
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Assuming a specific number has lost games for towns in the past, hence why I do not support gaming the set-up like you or Frosty are doing.
Not liking the instant backpedal with only the smallest amount of pressure applied. I'll be keeping my vote right where it is.
Nope, I think I hold that "honor" lol
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Your vote had no bearing on my unvote.
That's unfortunate. Did the Cult win in yours? Because mine did.
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Say what you want, doesnt mean I have to believe it.
Yes, rather controversially. Star Trek Voyager Mafia if you want to look it up.
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It clearly outlines how both players are 100% confirmed townie, Hansa. It is a shining example of a town mindset. Great town on town interaction.
Huh,
I'd believe 3 with a SK or other killing neutral. I'd believe 4. I'd believe 4 with something like a survivor. About the only thing that I wouldn't believe without seeing evidence to support it would be 5.
Are cults really that polarizing here? I know it means nothing to this game, but I'm developing a setup (which may or may not be ST MU4) that may or may not end up with one & if it really pisses people off that much, I'd rather know now & pull it while I can still rewrite.
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The GJ way path to no lynching:
or at least talk about it.
I agree on Tordeck I think. But why Annorax?
But I like it when people call me town
Seriously though: why would that be a scumpost?
I explained why adding the vote in that post where you were throwing my question back in my face was pre-emptive omgus. It is that exact post that made me suspicious. Are you not reading?
And about the first post in question: would you not ask someone for their read if you think they must have seen something but they didn't explain it? Oh wait, you would:
You're working off double standards.
Vote Gentleman Johnny
Then why are you voting hooker?
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i still think gentleman johnny is vaguely shifty.
and void's question is certainly something scum would want to know.
and i'd love to know jobie's "purpose" for voting me.
So, I just don't like anything tomsloger just posted. 'vaguely shifty' just sounds like scum trying to be suspicious of someone and failing, I don't understand why void's question conjures an image of scum wanting to know something at all, and I don't like the vibe I get from his comment about Jobie voting for him.
tomsloger please explain all of these weird statements with more detail.
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asking us what to think....that's strange.
Why not tell us your reads, reasonings and vote someone?
A few things I don't like with your post Sir Chris...
The first is voting before you even give him a chance to defend against your accusations. The underlined part emphasizes how you tacked this onto the end.
The second is your inability to see his post as a noob without conviction. His lack of forceful wording is most likely due to this being his first game.
Third is the fact that the mighty Chris is snacking on newbcakes...
regarding void, i feel like youre being obtuse for no reason. why wouldnt scum want to know everyone's expectations as to how many there are?
he says he has a reason for the question, but until he shares it i dont see what we could gain.
as for jobie, i dont have a problem with the vote being for me. i was referencing this:
do you NOT want to know?
I am all for giving new players their due, but that doesnt mean you dont pressure them when you find something odd, handwaving things away as "well he is new" is something i would see scum doing to either get town cred or save a buddy.
/vote huntz
Also Hi HuntZ! we been in the same games a lot lately.
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2. Giving people the benefit of the doubt with no prior experience and not questioning them is bad mafia play
3. questioning someone will provide insight.
@tomsloger
your wording on johnny bothered me, why would scum ask such a question? Scum, with 3-4 people, can kind of gather what people's expectations are from collective experience. A game of this size usually has a standard number of scum, ish, so why bother to bring it up in such a way?
As for Jobie I misunderstood your point, so sure.
anyway off to work.
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Wow cherry picking and misrepping this one will be fun.
it isnt about why scum would ask such a question, but why town would.
really, i just think its a dumb question. as evidenced by everyone having given more or less the same answer.
you were pretty clearly not.
Okay....
Also I put a comma for a reason, but I didn't make it clear. I didn't like the word usage for johnny, and then I indeed did move onto void.
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@chris is your problem that my wording isnt forceful enough? because i dont have a particularly forceful opinion, nor has he given a good reason to be certain. i used the words "vaguely shifty" because thats all hes been.
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It comes off as lazy and misleading
Are you accusing him of doing it on purpose to mislead us?
As to whether it was with the intent of mislead or simply to use it as a "well sepi said it not me" kind of thing i dont know, i lean more on the opinion of misleading dishonesty since the other angle seems to basic right now
You're making it into a misleading anti-you post yourself.
If this was anyone else, I would be suspicious of you now for that self-consciousness. But I've learned not to apply that tell to you anymore.
Lol, i suppose its a good thing then.
In regards to your point, i see what you are saying but the coma right there after the also made me think he was talking to me, i dont know how else to explain it but i didnt read it as an "hey guys addendum to sepis post".
@kpaca: thats cool and all, but since its not page 8 it doesnt matter to you anyways
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