2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Generally I figure out who is town and then work with them to solve the game. It's just how I operate. It's why I asked void that question and I'm much better at finding town then nailing down scum.
@KamikazeArchon
Can you briefly explain Ika's MO as a player after your experience with him in unreal?
As far as I can tell, in that game he just did whatever he wanted without regard for anyone else's opinion. That's why I don't like the "apparently this is my town meta" line. He's actually caring what people think about him now.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Riot and Merlose make their way down toward the Catacombs, as Ashley comments on the multitude of locked doors and gates they must force through.
"It does seem well fortified for a wine cellar..."
His partner answers, "Leá Monde's wineries once vied with the best in the land. Since they went out of production, the remaining vintages sell for a premium."
"If we find any, consider them yours."
Uninterested in wine and much more interested in discussing the business at hand, Ashley continues.
"Tell me what you know of Müllenkamp and this Sydney fellow."
"Sydney Losstarot, leader of the religious sect Müllenkamp... his age and whether that is his real name are unknown. He is just another prophet of the apocalypse."
As he works to bypass the lock mechanism on another gate, Riot continues: "Why would a simple missionary sieze the Duke's manor?"
Merlose counters, "I know not what the Cardinal thinks, but the VKP believes he is no prophet at all. They believe he is under employ of a member of Parliament."
"And thus the cult is a front?"
"Mayhaps. The incident at the Greylands could indicate..."
Suddenly, the ground begins to shake beneath them. Merlose stumbles to one knee as Riot grabs a wooden support pillar. After a moment the quake subsides, and as the dust settles the two compose themselves.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ah yes, hunger said there is nothing at city walls.
So town motivation: Found his thing and wanted to hide it or he doesn't want town wasting their time going there. Scum motivation: found his thing.
Considering it is unlikely to hit on the first explore, I'm gonna assume hunger is town and didn't want the majority of players wasting their move action. If he's lying then he could get caught and it would be stupid to lie about whether a Grimoire exists in a place.
Ah yes, hunger said there is nothing at city walls.
So town motivation: Found his thing and wanted to hide it or he doesn't want town wasting their time going there. Scum motivation: found his thing.
Considering it is unlikely to hit on the first explore, I'm gonna assume hunger is town and didn't want the majority of players wasting their move action. If he's lying then he could get caught and it would be stupid to lie about whether a Grimoire exists in a place.
Don't discount the willingness of scum to gambit on a lie. And if someone counterclaims him - e.g. "I went to the City Walls and there is something there!" - he could try to spin it as that person lying. The scum motivation for such a lie would be to deter town from searching the location, thus delaying activated PRs.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Okay. I'm almost alive at the moment. I've been having intense stomach ache today and yesterday, so haven't really been able to do anything besides lie in my bed and try not to puke.
Sorry.
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Okay. I'm almost alive at the moment. I've been having intense stomach ache today and yesterday, so haven't really been able to do anything besides lie in my bed and try not to puke.
Sorry.
The viruses/bacteria should be sorry! Hope you feel better :\
@ika
you have one power what would it be? To decide who to lynch for the Day
Are you scum? No
are you town? Yes
Why are you scum? I'm not
why are you town? Because that's the role I got
what is your favorite class you would want to be? I like magical characters normally, but not sure how that translates to class
who is your tops scumspect and why?
Hawk for changing his Bur read after getting called on it prior to getting a response from Bur, for serious voting Citric prior to Citric posting, for the charged language used toward me after suspecting him, and for keeping his vote on Citric but not probing/pushing Citric further after he started posting. If he was interested enough in Citric's content to feel the need to vote for him prior to his posting, I'd think he'd show more interest in Citric after he showed, especially when Citric called his post a contradiction.
Kami for seeming to appear busy by focusing on mechanics early, for his back and forth with Iso, and for posts like this:
Don't discount the willingness of scum to gambit on a lie. And if someone counterclaims him - e.g. "I went to the City Walls and there is something there!" - he could try to spin it as that person lying. The scum motivation for such a lie would be to deter town from searching the location, thus delaying activated PRs.
Which doesn't make sense (why would scum put themselves in a position where they'd trade one for one if they were caught lying to limit someone from finding their role?) and undermines Hunger without making any kind of pursuit of Hunger. It's the passive, "he could be doing this" but not trying to figure out if he is doing that.
who is your top town read and why? Bur - can't say atm, you - post #97, Void - meta
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My grimoire also isn't in Sanctum, so if that's an option for anyone, your odds are better at getting it.
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@everyone who hasn't given thoughts on this already - what do you think of my case on Hawk and why?
i can see the case having merit, however i still want iso.
with our recent game finished (UT) im going to wait it out and see how hawk compares. his game does peel slightly more passive but ciruts is also pining me.
this is a jump comclusion but i would put hunger as town if hawk is scum as well as persuadoclear kazi (but im already vaugly readying townreading kazi based off interactiosn with me and his posts)
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@ika
you have one power what would it be? To decide who to lynch for the Day
Are you scum? No
are you town? Yes
Why are you scum? I'm not
why are you town? Because that's the role I got
what is your favorite class you would want to be? I like magical characters normally, but not sure how that translates to class
who is your tops scumspect and why?
Hawk for changing his Bur read after getting called on it prior to getting a response from Bur, for serious voting Citric prior to Citric posting, for the charged language used toward me after suspecting him, and for keeping his vote on Citric but not probing/pushing Citric further after he started posting. If he was interested enough in Citric's content to feel the need to vote for him prior to his posting, I'd think he'd show more interest in Citric after he showed, especially when Citric called his post a contradiction.
Kami for seeming to appear busy by focusing on mechanics early, for his back and forth with Iso, and for posts like this:
Don't discount the willingness of scum to gambit on a lie. And if someone counterclaims him - e.g. "I went to the City Walls and there is something there!" - he could try to spin it as that person lying. The scum motivation for such a lie would be to deter town from searching the location, thus delaying activated PRs.
Which doesn't make sense (why would scum put themselves in a position where they'd trade one for one if they were caught lying to limit someone from finding their role?) and undermines Hunger without making any kind of pursuit of Hunger. It's the passive, "he could be doing this" but not trying to figure out if he is doing that.
who is your top town read and why? Bur - can't say atm, you - post #97, Void - meta
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My grimoire also isn't in Sanctum, so if that's an option for anyone, your odds are better at getting it.
--
@everyone who hasn't given thoughts on this already - what do you think of my case on Hawk and why?
@Citric - why do you think Rhand is scum?
I think the scum role PM is worded a little differently from the town one, because the way he worded the quoted post feels like he had a slightly different wording from my role blurb
i can see the case having merit, however i still want iso.
with our recent game finished (UT) im going to wait it out and see how hawk compares. his game does peel slightly more passive but ciruts is also pining me.
this is a jump comclusion but i would put hunger as town if hawk is scum as well as persuadoclear kazi (but im already vaugly readying townreading kazi based off interactiosn with me and his posts)
you shut up im never sheeping you unless if you draw an IC role (cross-play anyone XD)
Given that you're coming to the exact opposite conclusions that I am about the state of the game (especially if hawk flips scum), maybe you really should sheep me.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Then you're going to lose and have only yourself to blame.
how so? me not voting someone you think is scum is not going to make a huge-ass difrrence you got plenty of other people who can vote as well convince them
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
60/40 mix of "I don't have a lot of free time these days" and "I'm trying new approaches to Mafia".
Why is Witch Hunt the relevant game here?
i found [retracted]
Hey anty
thought on the unreal crew. Generic, ika, kami and myself
Outdated Mafia Stats
@ika: Retracted or redacted?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Riot and Merlose make their way down toward the Catacombs, as Ashley comments on the multitude of locked doors and gates they must force through.
"It does seem well fortified for a wine cellar..."
His partner answers, "Leá Monde's wineries once vied with the best in the land. Since they went out of production, the remaining vintages sell for a premium."
"If we find any, consider them yours."
Uninterested in wine and much more interested in discussing the business at hand, Ashley continues.
"Tell me what you know of Müllenkamp and this Sydney fellow."
"Sydney Losstarot, leader of the religious sect Müllenkamp... his age and whether that is his real name are unknown. He is just another prophet of the apocalypse."
As he works to bypass the lock mechanism on another gate, Riot continues: "Why would a simple missionary sieze the Duke's manor?"
Merlose counters, "I know not what the Cardinal thinks, but the VKP believes he is no prophet at all. They believe he is under employ of a member of Parliament."
"And thus the cult is a front?"
"Mayhaps. The incident at the Greylands could indicate..."
Suddenly, the ground begins to shake beneath them. Merlose stumbles to one knee as Riot grabs a wooden support pillar. After a moment the quake subsides, and as the dust settles the two compose themselves.
"No live burials today, thanks. Let's go."
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Votecount 1.2:
7hawk77 (1) - DCIII
CitricBase (1) - 7hawk77
Hunger (1) - Void
ika42 (1) - KamikazeArchon
Iso (2) - ika42, Rhand
KamikazeArchon (1) - Iso
mirrorentity (2) - Bur, Antny223
Rhand (2) - mirrorentity, CitricBase
Not voting: Hunger
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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Wow.
Everyone should just sheep me with their votes.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So town motivation: Found his thing and wanted to hide it or he doesn't want town wasting their time going there. Scum motivation: found his thing.
Considering it is unlikely to hit on the first explore, I'm gonna assume hunger is town and didn't want the majority of players wasting their move action. If he's lying then he could get caught and it would be stupid to lie about whether a Grimoire exists in a place.
Outdated Mafia Stats
you could help by bussing your buddies or telling us who they are
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
i like my vote where it is
but if theres nothign there and a 2nd person backs it up i would take it that there are none
make sure when i die n1 that you do this
But it's true.
Citrus isn't my scumbuddy, Antny is. We've been over this.
you're boring me.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
i think your missing the most obvious reaction test i have out there
All of it, but it's pretty insubstantial right now (the entire thread)
Do you agree with my vote? I feel reasonably confident with it
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Outdated Mafia Stats
Antny223, Bur and mirrorentity will all receive prods if they have not posted by 9:00am tomorrow morning.
What do you guys usually do D1 in small games? We're not moving anywhere and wasting daylight
Sorry.
The viruses/bacteria should be sorry! Hope you feel better :\
you have one power what would it be? To decide who to lynch for the Day
Are you scum? No
are you town? Yes
Why are you scum? I'm not
why are you town? Because that's the role I got
what is your favorite class you would want to be? I like magical characters normally, but not sure how that translates to class
who is your tops scumspect and why?
Hawk for changing his Bur read after getting called on it prior to getting a response from Bur, for serious voting Citric prior to Citric posting, for the charged language used toward me after suspecting him, and for keeping his vote on Citric but not probing/pushing Citric further after he started posting. If he was interested enough in Citric's content to feel the need to vote for him prior to his posting, I'd think he'd show more interest in Citric after he showed, especially when Citric called his post a contradiction.
Kami for seeming to appear busy by focusing on mechanics early, for his back and forth with Iso, and for posts like this:
Which doesn't make sense (why would scum put themselves in a position where they'd trade one for one if they were caught lying to limit someone from finding their role?) and undermines Hunger without making any kind of pursuit of Hunger. It's the passive, "he could be doing this" but not trying to figure out if he is doing that.
who is your top town read and why? Bur - can't say atm, you - post #97, Void - meta
--
My grimoire also isn't in Sanctum, so if that's an option for anyone, your odds are better at getting it.
--
@everyone who hasn't given thoughts on this already - what do you think of my case on Hawk and why?
@Citric - why do you think Rhand is scum?
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
with our recent game finished (UT) im going to wait it out and see how hawk compares. his game does peel slightly more passive but ciruts is also pining me.
this is a jump comclusion but i would put hunger as town if hawk is scum as well as persuadoclear kazi (but im already vaugly readying townreading kazi based off interactiosn with me and his posts)
what do?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think the scum role PM is worded a little differently from the town one, because the way he worded the quoted post feels like he had a slightly different wording from my role blurb
you shut up im never sheeping you unless if you draw an IC role (cross-play anyone XD)
@cirtus, elaborate? what makes you think that?
Given that you're coming to the exact opposite conclusions that I am about the state of the game (especially if hawk flips scum), maybe you really should sheep me.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hunger is also approximately 24 hours from a prod.
Super busy weekend, not sure if I will have time to post anything substantial until Sunday night/Monday morning.
Then you're going to lose and have only yourself to blame.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
how so? me not voting someone you think is scum is not going to make a huge-ass difrrence you got plenty of other people who can vote as well convince them
Will be posting content on Monday.