2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Dirty little secret of the game: Outside of two *extreme* corner cases (Cantrip scum, TMCT town or the completely insane Laset/Vaimes/X worlds) the game is mechanically solved - whichever faction Cantripmancer is on wins 100% of the time, and barring a (slightly more likely) corner case that faction is town.
To the surprise of basically nobody in the game, I'm the Priest. (Citrus was almost certainly the Inquisitor, so TMCT is Judge by PoE... well, that and KK being probable Apprentice GD and every breadcrumb known to mankind.)
* - This was lighting a check on fire, and I knew it at the time. But I'd just pieced together that Citrus was probably the Inquisitor and probably checked me N1 (his "Tar is likely town given how he pushed KK D1" looked like an Inquisitor result crumb) and thought that KK/AE/Citrus was a likely world - in which case barring a successful Angel protect (on the reliable Curse night and after directing KA to use Nemesis) a scum Citrus could Last Stand Laset and myself N2, claim Priest D3, and potentially skate to endgame, and I wasn't sure anyone would see through that.
Upside: Cantrip is a double-checked innocent with three lives, and can only be scum if KK Shenanigans'ed him N1 AND N2 (on the one reliable Curse night after the Priest had already checked Cantrip AND Cantrip had claimed Fanatic). Hell, the only reason I'm paranoid here is that the Citrus kill doesn't really make sense in *any* world - he was the most likely mislynch.
Here's how the rest of the game shakes out:
D4: Lynch one of TMCT/Iso
N4: If the game continues, Angels protect me if they can and Laset if they can't, but it doesn't really matter because final scum Iso can't Last Stand enough players to win (he can probably kill me, but Laset and Cantrip both have extra lives).
D5: Lynch the other of TMCT/Iso, game over.
EBWODP: "and I wasn't sure anyone would see through that, but I strongly doubted Citrus would claim a second check on the Fanatic so I left a land mine for him.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
you do realize that if there's two scum, iso, today would be lylo.
You realize that in the world where Cantrip and TMCT are scum that we lose anyway, right?
that wasn't guaranteed until Tare revealed he checked Cantrip twice. It would have required an NK bounce, but those happen sometimes, and are more likely when people have extra lives.
but yes. the implication was that you were being a bit casual about your vote. not that it matters, I guess - a world where neither you NOR tmct was scum but we were still at lylo... isn't a world.
anyway! I guess ... yeah. nobody's going to say anything to get me to lynch tare, nobody's going to say anything to get me to lynch cantrip unless tare comes out with something impressive, so ....
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Anyway, the only way we could win in a scenario with a scumCantrip is where a Judge lynch happens - and given TMCT is scum regardless of Cantrip's alignment, that makes what I do with my vote at that point irrelevant.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Abstain (4): Cantripmancer, Laset, Taredas, The Most Curious Thing, Iso
Taredas, I thought you were loony checking me again, but then I figured that I had been shenaniganed, and you figured they wouldn't shenanigan twice, so if I came up scum the second time you could get the Judge to lynch me. I never thought you might have seen "town" the first time.
If one's scum and we mislynch, the WORST that could happen would be that Taredas dies and one of Laset's or my lives gets bumped off. And we lynch the other. Same thing happens if they're both scum; we just lynch in succession. We just won't know which is which until the end of the game.
I've had more of a scum read on TMCT than Iso all game. So let's end this already.
If peeps post before the Mod comes back, can we agree that if TMCT isn't scum, we lynch Iso tomorrow to speed up the end of the game? Normally I wouldn't care, but there's a chance that I won't be around come toMorrow due to family matters.
So I guess...
@Mod: If I'm unresponsive if/when D5 starts, my intent is to vote Iso. Please let me know if this pre-vote thing isn't an option (and, given the circs, I hope it is).
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If I'm scum, isn't the game a foregone conclusion, anyway? I'll go to 2 lives, then kill Iso and one of Laset's lives, then lynch Laset toMorrow. I would hope Proph wouldn't do that to us. The "attempt" on Iso could be explained by both the fake death potion and him really being a (scum) even Gambler and using Last Stand on both Taredas and himself.
I know Laset is town. Laset knows I'm town because Taredas double-checked me. There's no way that the Demons would have thought to shenanigan me the second time.
I told you you were scum, Iso. I had that feeling all game, but it was tempered by the possibility that you were the Priest. Once you claimed Gambler, I was pretty sure you were scum.
Let's see. If we lynch me toDay, I'll have 2 lives and Laset will have 1 life. If Iso didn't use the potion last Night, he can use it on himself to get "there was an attempt on all of you, and you all survived". That's almost funny enough to play out. But we've taken enough chances.
Lynch Iso, win the game.
Vote Iso
Taredas for town MVP both for flying under the radar and for the unconventionality of checking me twice. Iso for scum MVP for--if nothing else--sticking it out til the very end.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
i think what killed was the lack of the priest kill and then everyone abusing mechanics to make it impossible for scums to win barring a huge throw by town.
i laughed when i pegged gen early day 1 by his "i wont be lynched game"
- It was very possible to have FDP at that point, and if I were dead scum with cantrip I'd've given it to him for sure.
- In later revisions of this ruleset, Last Stand lost the extra life restriction so it can be used by the last witch even if they have an extra life ... and I had forgotten this ruleset still had that restriction.
(not that it mattered, but ...)
anyway, Tare's double-check of Cantrip was pure insane genius. well done. (if he hadn't done that, Iso would have had a much more plausible situation - n1 shenanigans on a scumbuddy is very real, and scum-Cantrip with two lives could have actually lost there, since angels would most likely have had piercing protect for Iso to buy us the extra day.)
also if a player is known to be abusive about mechanics (as tar sais iso is iirc) but does not actively try to i would take it as a scum claim
I only break the game if I'm into the setup. I didn't read the OP too thoroughly because I was on my phone for most of this game and loading ANYTHING on that is a huge pain in the ass. Pretty much everything Tare pushed me for was a result of IRL circumstances, which is why I said what I said to him. I realize that I PoE'd it down to myself after the TMCT lynch, but I felt my play was adequate prior to that point.
Town MVP to Tare, for sure - I said, "No ******* way would a PriestTare not check me Night 1 in this game," and wrote him off as the Inquisitor all game - I thought Citric was the Priest, hence that kill. I don't think any of us really earned scum MVP - KK got lynched Day 1, TMCT was obvious (yet somehow avoided a lynch until Day 4???), and I lurked far more than I wanted to - again, working doubles out the ass really puts a damper on my Mafia schedule.
I do hope we see some of the players who joined us just for this game more often around here, though.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The town played quite strongly this game, but I think the scum could have definitely won were it not for a few bad night action choices. I also think that the role randomization was also a bit weak with regards to the scum - the Judge never really did anything due to the 14 day deadlines, which the town promptly used well. Forum-WH usually has 72-96 hour days, so the Judge is a fair amount stronger there. Apprentice is decent for role-hunting, but if the town has Gravedigger claim Day 1 then it's a tad weaker, especially towards the scum side. Gambler could be useful but I don't think the scum want to skip a NK to generate WIFOM (by self-shooting).
KoolKoal lynch D1 really hurt the scum, and judging from his last scum game (where he won scum MVP) I was a bit disappointed in seeing him lynched D1. He did manage to get a Acolyte claim out there, and I would have probably cut my losses and killed the Acolyte, especially with Shenanigans clouding any Priest checks. Ultimately I feel like there was some lull in activity during D2/D3 where scum could have really taken the initiative, but I didn't think the scum took advantage of it. Most of the game was a bit empty - given by the thread's low post count (under 1k posts).
I think the Vaimes kill was a mistake, but Tar played an exceptional Priest game and I'm not sure if scum would have killed him - reading on the scum chat it feels like Iso dismissed the possibility of him being a Priest due to Tar not checking him N1. Killing both Holies N1 and N2 would have definitely hampered the town's chances and, coupled with some more activity, could have been a game to win for the scum.
Town MVP goes to Taredas for avoiding a NK as the Priest all game as well as nailing down the scumteam sometime during D3. Had the role list down as well. I have to give a nod to Cantripmancer for basically pinning down TMCT and Iso as scum D2, though he didn't really push his reads.
As usual, I would like to ask for feedback on my prodding/modding. Tried to provide a vote count once per day, as well as check prods during that time. I hope that my prodding didn't make people mad - to compensate for the indiscriminate prod checks I didn't make any prods result in force-replacement, just a reminder to post. Do people like vote counts every two/three days? Would prods have been better served if I checked them every 72 hours? I felt kind of guilty when I was prodding people (Antny collected a bunch of prods and I felt bad every time I PM'd him) so I would really like some feedback on this.
Regardless, thanks to all for playing, and special thanks for everyone who replaced in (TMCT, Vaimes, CitricBase, Laset) and I hope you all join a future game of mine soon.
Interesting to see how my last two Minis have been open setups - I chose to run this setup because it's rather elegant, and I've seen it be run on other sites and wondered how MTGS would play it. My design philosophy is that mafia games should be fun and elegant, and this game is simple while providing deep replayability value due to the role randomization.
If I missed something or you would like for me to elucidate something I touched on here, don't hesitate to ask.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
- It was very possible to have FDP at that point, and if I were dead scum with cantrip I'd've given it to him for sure.
- In later revisions of this ruleset, Last Stand lost the extra life restriction so it can be used by the last witch even if they have an extra life ... and I had forgotten this ruleset still had that restriction.
(not that it mattered, but ...)
anyway, Tare's double-check of Cantrip was pure insane genius. well done. (if he hadn't done that, Iso would have had a much more plausible situation - n1 shenanigans on a scumbuddy is very real, and scum-Cantrip with two lives could have actually lost there, since angels would most likely have had piercing protect for Iso to buy us the extra day.)
Considering what happens when I design games, pure insane genius really shouldn't be a surprise.
It helped that the two intermediate-case scenarios (double-innocent on Cantrip, guilty on Cantrip w/town Judge) weren't terrible, and the worst-case (KK/Cantrip/Judge scumteam, which meant KK/Cantrip/TMCT because I had a very strong Judge read on him) was unlikely.
Ironically, the "conventional" check would have been worse - I was leaning towards Vaimes, partially to soothe paranoia and partially because I had a hard time seeing Antny as scum outside of scum!Vaimes worlds. (Killing Vaimes N2 was a huge misstep - I realized fairly quickly that it made the most sense in town!AE worlds [most likely reason to silence the GD at that moment was to prevent them from saying something that would make town step back and reassess] AND it townfirmed likely-but-not-100% town Vaimes and effectively cleared Antny, which knocked TMCT low enough that I moved him out of "likely town" when running the vote counts and the rest is history.) Only other candidate was Tanarin (not Citrus, because in scum!Citrus worlds I was probably dead).
(And for the record... I worked out during Night that there actually *was* a victory path in a scum!Cantrip world, courtesy of Iso being even Gambler rather than the odd I thought he was based on behavior - it *could* work in odd!Iso worlds [inverting N5 and N6 Angel actions], but only if I was shot N4. It required Angels to not Piercing Protect you N4 and scum!Cantrip to not remove your extra life N4; given that, this was possible:
D5: Lynch Cantrip (fails).
N5: Angels protect Iso at all costs (Pierce if necessary). You are protected by extra life. Cantrip cannot successfully kill; best is to single-shot Laset.
D6: Lynch Cantrip again (fails).
N6: Angels protect you at all costs (Pierce if necessary). Iso is protected by Gambler shield. Cantrip cannot successfully kill.
D7: Lynch Cantrip (succeeds, game over).)
I only break the game if I'm into the setup. I didn't read the OP too thoroughly because I was on my phone for most of this game and loading ANYTHING on that is a huge pain in the ass. Pretty much everything Tare pushed me for was a result of IRL circumstances, which is why I said what I said to him. I realize that I PoE'd it down to myself after the TMCT lynch, but I felt my play was adequate prior to that point.
It wasn't *just* the IRL circumstances (though the way you handled them reminded me of how I handled *my* RL issues early in Drury). It wasn't just even you putting more effort into Celestial than you did here, though that was a factor (reminded me of my activity split in Redux Mirror/Disney Villains). It was what you posted when you did post - your town attack tone vanished after KK died, and after a while Fadeblue in A3 was the most likely explanation. (Your snipes at Antny D3 in particular read like you *knew* you were attacking town.)
And you were completely toast after 760 - Cannoning likely town Antny and then handing the lynch to the all-but-claimed-scum!Judge to lynch the double-checked Fanatic at LyLo only made sense if you were desperate scum. Hence 762 (locking you down and trapping you before dropping the hammer) - I'd actually typed up the post explaining why 760 meant you were scum, but Tanarin fired literally one minute before I could post it. (And then you killed Citrus N3 and it was irrelevant and I could be lazy.)
Town MVP to Tare, for sure - I said, "No ******* way would a PriestTare not check me Night 1 in this game," and wrote him off as the Inquisitor all game - I thought Citric was the Priest, hence that kill. I don't think any of us really earned scum MVP - KK got lynched Day 1, TMCT was obvious (yet somehow avoided a lynch until Day 4???), and I lurked far more than I wanted to - again, working doubles out the ass really puts a damper on my Mafia schedule.
You know, you of all people should have realized that Priest!Tar wasn't checking you, since I all-but-explicitly told you that Priest!Tar wouldn't do that D1:
See, there are two people in this game that I am reasonably confident that I am able to read - confident enough that if I had a read contradicted by a Priest check, my first thought would be "Shenanigans". You are one of them, for reasons I will explain - or possibly remind you of, since I think I discussed this late in CT2 - after you've stopped playingclose to the chest.
Honestly, I put more effort into Celestial because:
We had that game solved
I was caught up in what happened
It was more fun because I knew more of the players
Eshnolat and Generic replaced out of this game
I needed to re-read to post anything relevant
It had nothing to do with my alignment. My tone changed because I had not had the time to re-assess the game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Proph: My scum mvp was in my first real game on the site and like 8 town games ago. It's a lot easier to be scum when no one expects you to be competent.
KK's gambit was unnecessary and led to me largely underestimating the power of the Acolyte role.
Well, I suck at noticing hints that other players are dropping, and in the rare times I notice, I don't take notes and forget... I was fairly certain I couldn't save myself at that point as well.
Funny story: I almost shenanigansed Cantrip n2 just because there was so much talk about how he could have been shenanigansed n1. I really don't want to talk about why I didn't, aside from the thought that it would be a really big gamble that would really hurt if my allies figured out who the priest was. And I thought that if the priest "wasted" the check on cantrip twice, it would be great. Shows how good I am at mod-gaming
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ooh, didn't I catch you in that one Mod Mafia game on Day 1, too? :3
Looks like you need a bit of work on your scum game, then!
You may not remember, but I don't count that one because I replaced in only to be immediately "caught" based on what the player I replaced had done. Sure if I was better I could have fought my way out of it, maybe, but I didn't do anything to earn the initial wagon.
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I seem to recall finding you scummier for protesting that we were finding you scummy for your predecessor. A true townie would have trekked onward, regardless! But maybe I'm misremembering.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
But I knew who the Acolyte was long before Generic ever claimed. (Ask Proph, my 2 guesses for Holy shortly into Day 1 were Generic and Arch.) All it did was absolutely make sure that KK was getting lynched, and that hurt us in the long run. Tare didn't even investigate scum until the Night he died, and I was trying to find the Priest - so please, tell me what it gained the scum.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Town MVP goes to Taredas for avoiding a NK as the Priest all game as well as nailing down the scumteam sometime during D3. Had the role list down as well. I have to give a nod to Cantripmancer for basically pinning down TMCT and Iso as scum D2, though he didn't really push his reads.
Yeah, story of my life. :/ But thanks for the nod. I need to figure out when to trust my gut and when not to. The lack of alignment reveal in this game made it much less appealing to work through, but was definitely a good learning experience.
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As usual, I would like to ask for feedback on my prodding/modding. Tried to provide a vote count once per day, as well as check prods during that time. I hope that my prodding didn't make people mad - to compensate for the indiscriminate prod checks I didn't make any prods result in force-replacement, just a reminder to post. Do people like vote counts every two/three days? Would prods have been better served if I checked them every 72 hours? I felt kind of guilty when I was prodding people (Antny collected a bunch of prods and I felt bad every time I PM'd him) so I would really like some feedback on this.
Modding felt fine. Prodding was fine. Game was well-run, overall. Thank you for the great game, Proph!
On a personal note, my dad seems to be doing better. He's on some medication and has been ordered to drastically change his diet. :/ Thank you for all the well-wishes.
But I knew who the Acolyte was long before Generic ever claimed. (Ask Proph, my 2 guesses for Holy shortly into Day 1 were Generic and Arch.) All it did was absolutely make sure that KK was getting lynched, and that hurt us in the long run. Tare didn't even investigate scum until the Night he died, and I was trying to find the Priest - so please, tell me what it gained the scum.
well thats different then, pretend you didn't know who it was. how beneficial it would of been then?
while these didnt happen imagin if:
he was scum survivor?
he was a DOB?
he was BOD?
gravedigger?
look at it from role persepctive, he was apprentice and you know once GD died they would be in the dark
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
To the surprise of basically nobody in the game, I'm the Priest. (Citrus was almost certainly the Inquisitor, so TMCT is Judge by PoE... well, that and KK being probable Apprentice GD and every breadcrumb known to mankind.)
N1: Cantripmancer innocent
N2: Cantripmancer innocent*
N3: CitricBase innocent
* - This was lighting a check on fire, and I knew it at the time. But I'd just pieced together that Citrus was probably the Inquisitor and probably checked me N1 (his "Tar is likely town given how he pushed KK D1" looked like an Inquisitor result crumb) and thought that KK/AE/Citrus was a likely world - in which case barring a successful Angel protect (on the reliable Curse night and after directing KA to use Nemesis) a scum Citrus could Last Stand Laset and myself N2, claim Priest D3, and potentially skate to endgame, and I wasn't sure anyone would see through that.
Upside: Cantrip is a double-checked innocent with three lives, and can only be scum if KK Shenanigans'ed him N1 AND N2 (on the one reliable Curse night after the Priest had already checked Cantrip AND Cantrip had claimed Fanatic). Hell, the only reason I'm paranoid here is that the Citrus kill doesn't really make sense in *any* world - he was the most likely mislynch.
Here's how the rest of the game shakes out:
D4: Lynch one of TMCT/Iso
N4: If the game continues, Angels protect me if they can and Laset if they can't, but it doesn't really matter because final scum Iso can't Last Stand enough players to win (he can probably kill me, but Laset and Cantrip both have extra lives).
D5: Lynch the other of TMCT/Iso, game over.
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
is one hell of a way to light a check on fire.
No wonder I had no idea who you'd checked n2.
I'm down with just lynching tmct then if game's not over lynching iso.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You realize that in the world where Cantrip and TMCT are scum that we lose anyway, right?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
(3 to lynch)
The Most Curious Thing (1): Iso
Abstain (4): Cantripmancer, Laset, Taredas, The Most Curious Thing
that wasn't guaranteed until Tare revealed he checked Cantrip twice. It would have required an NK bounce, but those happen sometimes, and are more likely when people have extra lives.
but yes. the implication was that you were being a bit casual about your vote. not that it matters, I guess - a world where neither you NOR tmct was scum but we were still at lylo... isn't a world.
anyway! I guess ... yeah. nobody's going to say anything to get me to lynch tare, nobody's going to say anything to get me to lynch cantrip unless tare comes out with something impressive, so ....
Vote: The Most Curious Thing.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Taredas, I thought you were loony checking me again, but then I figured that I had been shenaniganed, and you figured they wouldn't shenanigan twice, so if I came up scum the second time you could get the Judge to lynch me. I never thought you might have seen "town" the first time.
So we're at:
Cantripmancer - Fanatic, 3 lives
Laset - Acolyte, 2 lives
Taredas - Priest
Iso - Even Gambler
TMCT - Judge
If one's scum and we mislynch, the WORST that could happen would be that Taredas dies and one of Laset's or my lives gets bumped off. And we lynch the other. Same thing happens if they're both scum; we just lynch in succession. We just won't know which is which until the end of the game.
I've had more of a scum read on TMCT than Iso all game. So let's end this already.
If peeps post before the Mod comes back, can we agree that if TMCT isn't scum, we lynch Iso tomorrow to speed up the end of the game? Normally I wouldn't care, but there's a chance that I won't be around come toMorrow due to family matters.
So I guess...
@Mod: If I'm unresponsive if/when D5 starts, my intent is to vote Iso. Please let me know if this pre-vote thing isn't an option (and, given the circs, I hope it is).
Vote: TMCT
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
(3 to lynch)
The Most Curious Thing (3): Iso, Laset, Cantripmancer
Abstain (2): Taredas, The Most Curious Thing
The Most Curious Thing has been lynched and killed.
It is now Night 4. Night actions must be submitted in 48 hours. I will start the Day once all night actions have been sent in.
Iso has survived an attempt on his life.
Day 5 has begun.
With 3 alive, it's 2 to lynch.
The deadline is a strict 14 days. If you have not lynched by the 25th, the lynch will be decided by the Judge, or be a no lynch if the Judge is dead.
I claimed Even Gambler and they tried to kill me anyway?
I guess TMCT was town, after all. We should have kept him alive - now we can't lynch Cantrip.
But I guess we can try?
Vote Cantrip
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I vote for a town forfeit to save us time.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I know Laset is town. Laset knows I'm town because Taredas double-checked me. There's no way that the Demons would have thought to shenanigan me the second time.
I told you you were scum, Iso. I had that feeling all game, but it was tempered by the possibility that you were the Priest. Once you claimed Gambler, I was pretty sure you were scum.
Let's see. If we lynch me toDay, I'll have 2 lives and Laset will have 1 life. If Iso didn't use the potion last Night, he can use it on himself to get "there was an attempt on all of you, and you all survived". That's almost funny enough to play out. But we've taken enough chances.
Lynch Iso, win the game.
Vote Iso
Taredas for town MVP both for flying under the radar and for the unconventionality of checking me twice. Iso for scum MVP for--if nothing else--sticking it out til the very end.
but uh ... Vote: Iso.
'cause there ain't no way I'm doing anything else here.
I figured it was worth a try.
FTR, I told TMCT in scum chat to Shenanigans me every Night if he died early.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The town has won.
Taredas - Priest
Laset - Acolyte
Archmage Eternal - Survivalist
Vaimes - Gravedigger
The Most Curious Thing - Judge
KoolKoal - Apprentice
CitricBase - Inquisitor
KamikazeArchon - DOB
Antny223 - BOD
Iso - Gambler
Cantripmancer - Fanatic
Tanarin - Leeroy
Spectator Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/FBp8HYVwisw
Dead Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/jASDkKCK5V29N
Angel Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/6NAuEsK6tMg
Demon Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/v6mUJR2uGZSte
Coven Chat 2: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/ar8WwtqxLM2N
Coven Chat 1: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/FEFqUyH3p7yBr
I'll provide my thoughts on this game in the morning.
the double kill mechanicly confirmed cat as town.
the last witch can only activate doublekill when they hav no extra lives
i think what killed was the lack of the priest kill and then everyone abusing mechanics to make it impossible for scums to win barring a huge throw by town.
i laughed when i pegged gen early day 1 by his "i wont be lynched game"
- It was very possible to have FDP at that point, and if I were dead scum with cantrip I'd've given it to him for sure.
- In later revisions of this ruleset, Last Stand lost the extra life restriction so it can be used by the last witch even if they have an extra life ... and I had forgotten this ruleset still had that restriction.
(not that it mattered, but ...)
anyway, Tare's double-check of Cantrip was pure insane genius. well done. (if he hadn't done that, Iso would have had a much more plausible situation - n1 shenanigans on a scumbuddy is very real, and scum-Cantrip with two lives could have actually lost there, since angels would most likely have had piercing protect for Iso to buy us the extra day.)
I only break the game if I'm into the setup. I didn't read the OP too thoroughly because I was on my phone for most of this game and loading ANYTHING on that is a huge pain in the ass. Pretty much everything Tare pushed me for was a result of IRL circumstances, which is why I said what I said to him. I realize that I PoE'd it down to myself after the TMCT lynch, but I felt my play was adequate prior to that point.
Town MVP to Tare, for sure - I said, "No ******* way would a PriestTare not check me Night 1 in this game," and wrote him off as the Inquisitor all game - I thought Citric was the Priest, hence that kill. I don't think any of us really earned scum MVP - KK got lynched Day 1, TMCT was obvious (yet somehow avoided a lynch until Day 4???), and I lurked far more than I wanted to - again, working doubles out the ass really puts a damper on my Mafia schedule.
I do hope we see some of the players who joined us just for this game more often around here, though.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The town played quite strongly this game, but I think the scum could have definitely won were it not for a few bad night action choices. I also think that the role randomization was also a bit weak with regards to the scum - the Judge never really did anything due to the 14 day deadlines, which the town promptly used well. Forum-WH usually has 72-96 hour days, so the Judge is a fair amount stronger there. Apprentice is decent for role-hunting, but if the town has Gravedigger claim Day 1 then it's a tad weaker, especially towards the scum side. Gambler could be useful but I don't think the scum want to skip a NK to generate WIFOM (by self-shooting).
KoolKoal lynch D1 really hurt the scum, and judging from his last scum game (where he won scum MVP) I was a bit disappointed in seeing him lynched D1. He did manage to get a Acolyte claim out there, and I would have probably cut my losses and killed the Acolyte, especially with Shenanigans clouding any Priest checks. Ultimately I feel like there was some lull in activity during D2/D3 where scum could have really taken the initiative, but I didn't think the scum took advantage of it. Most of the game was a bit empty - given by the thread's low post count (under 1k posts).
I think the Vaimes kill was a mistake, but Tar played an exceptional Priest game and I'm not sure if scum would have killed him - reading on the scum chat it feels like Iso dismissed the possibility of him being a Priest due to Tar not checking him N1. Killing both Holies N1 and N2 would have definitely hampered the town's chances and, coupled with some more activity, could have been a game to win for the scum.
Town MVP goes to Taredas for avoiding a NK as the Priest all game as well as nailing down the scumteam sometime during D3. Had the role list down as well. I have to give a nod to Cantripmancer for basically pinning down TMCT and Iso as scum D2, though he didn't really push his reads.
As usual, I would like to ask for feedback on my prodding/modding. Tried to provide a vote count once per day, as well as check prods during that time. I hope that my prodding didn't make people mad - to compensate for the indiscriminate prod checks I didn't make any prods result in force-replacement, just a reminder to post. Do people like vote counts every two/three days? Would prods have been better served if I checked them every 72 hours? I felt kind of guilty when I was prodding people (Antny collected a bunch of prods and I felt bad every time I PM'd him) so I would really like some feedback on this.
Regardless, thanks to all for playing, and special thanks for everyone who replaced in (TMCT, Vaimes, CitricBase, Laset) and I hope you all join a future game of mine soon.
Interesting to see how my last two Minis have been open setups - I chose to run this setup because it's rather elegant, and I've seen it be run on other sites and wondered how MTGS would play it. My design philosophy is that mafia games should be fun and elegant, and this game is simple while providing deep replayability value due to the role randomization.
If I missed something or you would like for me to elucidate something I touched on here, don't hesitate to ask.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Considering what happens when I design games, pure insane genius really shouldn't be a surprise.
It helped that the two intermediate-case scenarios (double-innocent on Cantrip, guilty on Cantrip w/town Judge) weren't terrible, and the worst-case (KK/Cantrip/Judge scumteam, which meant KK/Cantrip/TMCT because I had a very strong Judge read on him) was unlikely.
Ironically, the "conventional" check would have been worse - I was leaning towards Vaimes, partially to soothe paranoia and partially because I had a hard time seeing Antny as scum outside of scum!Vaimes worlds. (Killing Vaimes N2 was a huge misstep - I realized fairly quickly that it made the most sense in town!AE worlds [most likely reason to silence the GD at that moment was to prevent them from saying something that would make town step back and reassess] AND it townfirmed likely-but-not-100% town Vaimes and effectively cleared Antny, which knocked TMCT low enough that I moved him out of "likely town" when running the vote counts and the rest is history.) Only other candidate was Tanarin (not Citrus, because in scum!Citrus worlds I was probably dead).
(And for the record... I worked out during Night that there actually *was* a victory path in a scum!Cantrip world, courtesy of Iso being even Gambler rather than the odd I thought he was based on behavior - it *could* work in odd!Iso worlds [inverting N5 and N6 Angel actions], but only if I was shot N4. It required Angels to not Piercing Protect you N4 and scum!Cantrip to not remove your extra life N4; given that, this was possible:
D5: Lynch Cantrip (fails).
N5: Angels protect Iso at all costs (Pierce if necessary). You are protected by extra life. Cantrip cannot successfully kill; best is to single-shot Laset.
D6: Lynch Cantrip again (fails).
N6: Angels protect you at all costs (Pierce if necessary). Iso is protected by Gambler shield. Cantrip cannot successfully kill.
D7: Lynch Cantrip (succeeds, game over).)
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Hey Iso! Eat muffins. (Still salty.)
It wasn't *just* the IRL circumstances (though the way you handled them reminded me of how I handled *my* RL issues early in Drury). It wasn't just even you putting more effort into Celestial than you did here, though that was a factor (reminded me of my activity split in Redux Mirror/Disney Villains). It was what you posted when you did post - your town attack tone vanished after KK died, and after a while Fadeblue in A3 was the most likely explanation. (Your snipes at Antny D3 in particular read like you *knew* you were attacking town.)
And you were completely toast after 760 - Cannoning likely town Antny and then handing the lynch to the all-but-claimed-scum!Judge to lynch the double-checked Fanatic at LyLo only made sense if you were desperate scum. Hence 762 (locking you down and trapping you before dropping the hammer) - I'd actually typed up the post explaining why 760 meant you were scum, but Tanarin fired literally one minute before I could post it. (And then you killed Citrus N3 and it was irrelevant and I could be lazy.)
You know, you of all people should have realized that Priest!Tar wasn't checking you, since I all-but-explicitly told you that Priest!Tar wouldn't do that D1:
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
We had that game solved
I was caught up in what happened
It was more fun because I knew more of the players
Eshnolat and Generic replaced out of this game
I needed to re-read to post anything relevant
It had nothing to do with my alignment. My tone changed because I had not had the time to re-assess the game.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well, I suck at noticing hints that other players are dropping, and in the rare times I notice, I don't take notes and forget... I was fairly certain I couldn't save myself at that point as well.
Funny story: I almost shenanigansed Cantrip n2 just because there was so much talk about how he could have been shenanigansed n1. I really don't want to talk about why I didn't, aside from the thought that it would be a really big gamble that would really hurt if my allies figured out who the priest was. And I thought that if the priest "wasted" the check on cantrip twice, it would be great. Shows how good I am at mod-gaming
Looks like you need a bit of work on your scum game, then!
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Super interesting setup. Glad my early errors didn't end up costing the town much.
it;
-gets alcodite to CC him
-makes it a very easy n1 target
-you unlock shenanigans to use on scums
i would argue that his play/gambit was the best move out there
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Yeah, story of my life. :/ But thanks for the nod. I need to figure out when to trust my gut and when not to. The lack of alignment reveal in this game made it much less appealing to work through, but was definitely a good learning experience.
Modding felt fine. Prodding was fine. Game was well-run, overall. Thank you for the great game, Proph!
On a personal note, my dad seems to be doing better. He's on some medication and has been ordered to drastically change his diet. :/ Thank you for all the well-wishes.
well thats different then, pretend you didn't know who it was. how beneficial it would of been then?
while these didnt happen imagin if:
he was scum survivor?
he was a DOB?
he was BOD?
gravedigger?
look at it from role persepctive, he was apprentice and you know once GD died they would be in the dark
Though you can say that for a lot of things.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player