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I wouldn't be so hasty as to call that not having fun yet Rhand.
I think I just confused the hell out of him... (It is him right?)
But I woke up, saw the game was going and thought I'd vote Cyan thinking we've been in a game together. Now that I think about it... We probably haven't. So to answer your question Cyan, no we haven't. I've just seen your name around here a lot and my still half asleep mind made a mistake.
I'm used to 12 man games. Which would have made a pile up like that L-2. Plus with the way things were going I could have probably expected one or two more to show up and just vote me for their first check in post.
Not everyone is here yet and I want everyone to post before things get out of hand.
I'm not really liking the Shockwave train. In Llamas with Hats, a game we were scum in, he got a bit of early pressure in RVS and largely ignored it. His feeling of a need to explain himself (post #13) looks town to me. I also like Rhand for voting Shockwave here for the same reason he voted him in Llamas (Shock's nervousness).
@Shockwave: Why didn't you unvote Cyan in post #13? You determined that you haven't played a game with Cyan, but didn't unvote him.
Why are you placing an RVS vote while at the same time accusing Shock of not unvoting his?
@Cyan: Shocks last post doesn't make sense period. How do you see a town mindset in it?
I'm not really liking the Shockwave train. In Llamas with Hats, a game we were scum in, he got a bit of early pressure in RVS and largely ignored it. His feeling of a need to explain himself (post #13) looks town to me. I also like Rhand for voting Shockwave here for the same reason he voted him in Llamas (Shock's nervousness).
@Shockwave: Why didn't you unvote Cyan in post #13? You determined that you haven't played a game with Cyan, but didn't unvote him.
Why are you placing an RVS vote while at the same time accusing Shock of not unvoting his?
@Cyan: Shocks last post doesn't make sense period. How do you see a town mindset in it?
Shockwave's vote was based on the belief that he and cyan had played in a game before. SNL is saying that when Shockwave realized that he had not, in fact, played a game with Cyan ever before, he should have unvoted.
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@SNL - Why do you think Shock should have unvoted his joke vote? What do you think it says about his alignment that he didn't unvote and what do you think it would have said if he had?
It was an rvs vote. Talking about the "reasoning" doesn't change that fact.
So no, I am not wrong, and even if I would be, you still answered a question directed at him while ignoring the pressure Cantrip put on you. Why is that?
@SNL - Why do you think Shock should have unvoted his joke vote? What do you think it says about his alignment that he didn't unvote and what do you think it would have said if he had?
I don't think Shock should or shouldn't have unvoted his RVS vote. I do think that, if Shock was really that self-conscious about being questioned by Cyan, he would have unvoted. Yes, post #13 was long and winded, but if Shock wanted to strike all suspicion off of himself, why would he have forgotten to unvote?
That's not what Shock was doing. He was trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself.
Hans: why do you feel the need to answer a question directed at someone else?
It doesn't really count as 'answering a question directed at someone else' when all you have to do is read the thread to get the answer you are looking for.
And I can see a bad-town-Shockwave making that post. In fact, from my perspective, the post has a huge town-tell in it. But I'm pretty sure you are scum here, so, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
That's not what Shock was doing. He was trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself.
lol what? To be clear. When Shock random voted me, making some statement that we had played together before, and I asked him about that, and he realized that we had no in fact played together before, he was..trying to get suspicion off of me? What the actual **** are you talking about?
I'm not really liking the Shockwave train. In Llamas with Hats, a game we were scum in, he got a bit of early pressure in RVS and largely ignored it. His feeling of a need to explain himself (post #13) looks town to me. I also like Rhand for voting Shockwave here for the same reason he voted him in Llamas (Shock's nervousness).
@Shockwave: Why didn't you unvote Cyan in post #13? You determined that you haven't played a game with Cyan, but didn't unvote him.
Go through more games. I don't know how many games Shockwave has played, but I'd like to hear about more than just one game's worth of meta since I don't remember his playstyle period.
It doesn't really count as 'answering a question directed at someone else' when all you have to do is read the thread to get the answer you are looking for.
And I can see a bad-town-Shockwave making that post. In fact, from my perspective, the post has a huge town-tell in it. But I'm pretty sure you are scum here, so, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
That's not what Shock was doing. He was trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself.
lol what? To be clear. When Shock random voted me, making some statement that we had played together before, and I asked him about that, and he realized that we had no in fact played together before, he was..trying to get suspicion off of me? What the actual **** are you talking about?
Vote Rhand
My little Cyan can't possibly be this bad at mafia.
No like, he actually can't be. I only see Cyan making a post like this if he's bad, and he's not. So why does this post exist and why doesn't it match up with any reasonable gamestate? This question is rhetorical only if it goes unanswered.
Can't you people read? His first sentence in that last post was a reaction to me voting Cyan.
If that is Shockwave defending me, I am the President of the United States. Hint: I am not the POTUS.
That is Shockwave being overly self-concious, and it is very obviously that. And nothing else. You are trying way too hard to make something out of nothing here, and I can't see why you would do this if you were town.
@WG: This forum software sucks in basically every way possible for mafia. Just wait until you write up a quote and want to preview to see if new posts have been made that you need to respond to..
And I don't know what you think you are seeing re: Rhand, but I'm pretty sure I am onto something here.
Actually, there's enough going on here, that I think I can just subvert RVS entirely. exciting.
I would not have voted shockwave for #13 alone, but #22 is really awkward in how it changes tone. he goes from the timid, to the over top panic mode, after 4 quick votes, which weren't the worst votes in the world. He doesn't even have the reason for the vote right. his #29 really just doesn't make sense, like, at all; he thinks we;re gonna lynch him without a claim, and is posing some odd hypotheticals. "I flip scum, then what?" is also really odd, it's like him saying "hypothetically if I'm scum, what would my lynch do?" well, you see, the only good answer would be we'd get to go into night without a day one mislynch. a rushed lynch on a scum is still a lynch on scum. why you'd even conceder this worthy of being asked, I don't bloody well know. like, this is one of the strangest things I've ever seen.
so all this said:
@Shockwave: please explain, in detail, why you asked the hypothetical question "I flip scum, then what?"?
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@SNL: you like, missed the issue of shockwave completely, and then go on a bad meta tangent. also, your RVS is really odd, and out of place, given that you attempted to be serious in the same post, without noticeably separating the two. your #41 however is actually a pretty decent explanation, and actually provides even more pressure on shockwave. it shows a solid disconnect between the self conscious timidness and the persistence of the vote.
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@Hans: IGMEOY. really, no actual comment on the wagon, just a blatant barn. psuedo RVS, while piling on the primary wagon at the same time. no good can come of this. also weird is how you ignored the pressure from cantrip, but answered the question that wasn't for you. why are you selectively reading the thread?
That's not what Shock was doing. He was trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself.
wait, what pressure on Cyan? what is this? I don't even? this is so wrong, the only motive behind this post is either misrepresentation, or misrepresentation with intent to slander.
then your responce. you "serious vote" Cyan. for what? not having fun? wtf. did you actually intend that to put suspicion on him? how is that a tell? how is that anything? you're seriously telling me that was a serious vote on Cyan all for his post containing the exact phrase "...Have we met?"
so, yah, care to explain your actual thought process behind this vote, the initial one on Cyan? how does "...Have we met?" translate to "Hi, I'm Cyan, and I'm scum"? seriously, what is everyone else missing?
that, and how the heck was shock's post still trying to deflect off of Cyan? You know what, I do see what you're saying here, about the "having fun" comment, but you know, what. your vote was still awful, and had I picked up on it while reading page one, instead of page two, I'd probably have questioned you on it a lot earlier in this post. really I didn't even think, even with the serious disclaimer, that it was serious. like, at all.
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@wheat: everyone seems to have missed that Rhand's early vote was serious. I really don't get how you think only "bad at this game" Cyan makes this point. feel free to wait until after Cyan responds to you to respond to me, but what did you actually find wrong with this post, cause I'm just not seeing it, and I'm curious.
also, I've recently been introduced to this Silver rage tell bull*****. personally I think it's a giant pile of WIFOM garbage. from your response to cantrip, I feel like you feel somewhat similar to it. care to however directly respond to the tell itself, and what you think of it? is "Silver Rage" something that can reliably catch scum?
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I've asked alot of questions in this post however if Rhand does feel that his first vote on Cyan is serious. I'll gladly call it garbage, unfounded, and UnVote, Vote Rhand.
I like RVS tells, and lack of fun in RVS is a minor one. Good enough for me to break RVS with a serious vote. And apparently good enough for Shockwave to jump in on Cyan's defence.
It's all still early and weak, but it got conversation going.
'A lack of fun' in RVS is not independently a tell. Ever. I absolutely hate RVS and wish it never occurred in any game, because it is incredibly more likely to lead to some townie getting ganged up on for acting like an idiot 'because RVS' than it ever is to result in valuable information against scum. I never participate in RVS, regardless of alignment. For evidence of this, read..any game I have ever been in.
And again, Shockwave is not defending me there. He is over-explaining his own actions, and in a way that makes it pretty obvious he is not scum.
I like RVS tells, and lack of fun in RVS is a minor one. Good enough for me to break RVS with a serious vote. And apparently good enough for Shockwave to jump in on Cyan's defence.
It's all still early and weak, but it got conversation going.
/vote Rhand
Answer my question in post #41. Where was Shockwave "trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself"?
I did answer that.
And you, sir, are scum.
vote SNL
I didn't like how quick you were to meta-clear me in the first place, and you're extremely quick to forget your read on me.
Can't you people read? His first sentence in that last post was a reaction to me voting Cyan.
If that is Shockwave defending me, I am the President of the United States. Hint: I am not the POTUS.
That is Shockwave being overly self-concious, and it is very obviously that. And nothing else. You are trying way too hard to make something out of nothing here, and I can't see why you would do this if you were town.
@WG: This forum software sucks in basically every way possible for mafia. Just wait until you write up a quote and want to preview to see if new posts have been made that you need to respond to..
And I don't know what you think you are seeing re: Rhand, but I'm pretty sure I am onto something here.
Vote Cyan for being Obama, and lying about not being Obama. I've got plenty of circuitous evidence that proves he is Obama.
Aaaaanyway, Shockwave's freak-out and hypothetical questions make sense from town. I am of the belief that scum try to keep some knowledge of the game in the forefront of their minds as they play, so slips like thinking the game is progressing much faster than it actually is don't happen to them. I must assume that were Shock actually mafia, he would have some kind of life counter to track how far from L-2 he is. Thus, he wouldn't freak out when there were only 4 votes on him.
Far more problematic is Niv's wonderful vote for himself. Niv, why do you feel the need to avoid pushing buttons?
Vote Niv
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/wave
Not as good as the first six Shockwaves.
vote Seppel
Close enough.
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Haven't run into a scum you yet... But maybe that's because of the lack of games together...
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What are you doing playing mafia when you can't even be bothered to review setups?
...Have we met?
Vote: Rhand because I believe he's the closest player to me geologically for the next three months. You're German, right?
I'm a horrible person who's been too lazy to run scenarios lately.
I'm Belgian
unvote, vote Cyan
Serious vote. He isn't having fun.
Cyan (2): Shockwave07, Rhand
Shockwave07 (1): Antny223
Rhand (1): Wheat_Grinder
Wheat_Grinder (1): Cantripmancer
Generic (1): Hunger
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I think I just confused the hell out of him... (It is him right?)
But I woke up, saw the game was going and thought I'd vote Cyan thinking we've been in a game together. Now that I think about it... We probably haven't. So to answer your question Cyan, no we haven't. I've just seen your name around here a lot and my still half asleep mind made a mistake.
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13 is timid and over explanatory.
This is a serious vote.
I was about to type the same thing. Awful post. Very self-aware.
unvote, vote Shockwave
Dangit, I forgot one flag is vertical and the other is horizontal.
Unvote, Vote: Shockwave07 serious vote.
i hate you both because you actually put a reason to the vote right away instead of letting him squirm.
Unvote, Vote Shockwave
Can we try not to end Day 1 so soon?!
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9 to burn, you're still far away from getting burned.
Why so panicky?
It's a pretty odd mistake, and you really went out of your way to explain it. How could you think you had played with Cyan before?
Given that you're at L-5, this is bad fearmongering.
Not everyone is here yet and I want everyone to post before things get out of hand.
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I flip town, then what?
I flip scum, then what?
I flip PR then what?
What information gain do you have at the moment?
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All the cool kids are doing it.
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I don't like Hans. No discussion of the situation, just a /barn with a stock joke?
Why are you placing an RVS vote while at the same time accusing Shock of not unvoting his?
@Cyan: Shocks last post doesn't make sense period. How do you see a town mindset in it?
Shockwave's vote was based on the belief that he and cyan had played in a game before. SNL is saying that when Shockwave realized that he had not, in fact, played a game with Cyan ever before, he should have unvoted.
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It was an rvs vote. Talking about the "reasoning" doesn't change that fact.
So no, I am not wrong, and even if I would be, you still answered a question directed at him while ignoring the pressure Cantrip put on you. Why is that?
That's not what Shock was doing. He was trying to get suspicion off Cyan, not himself.
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It doesn't really count as 'answering a question directed at someone else' when all you have to do is read the thread to get the answer you are looking for.
And I can see a bad-town-Shockwave making that post. In fact, from my perspective, the post has a huge town-tell in it. But I'm pretty sure you are scum here, so, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
lol what? To be clear. When Shock random voted me, making some statement that we had played together before, and I asked him about that, and he realized that we had no in fact played together before, he was..trying to get suspicion off of me? What the actual **** are you talking about?
Vote Rhand
Oh right.
Then yes. My rage runs with metallic luster across the land.
The short answer is that you don't flip immediately and you've been here more than long enough to know that. Why are you so worried?
Which one? Chen or Emi?
Go through more games. I don't know how many games Shockwave has played, but I'd like to hear about more than just one game's worth of meta since I don't remember his playstyle period.
Hansgelion 3.0 You are (not) the PR
I hope that won't be applicable this game but I just thought of it and therefore had to say it.
Have you played with Hans before? What do you think of his alignment, currently?
How so?
What do you think of Cyan?
My little Cyan can't possibly be this bad at mafia.
No like, he actually can't be. I only see Cyan making a post like this if he's bad, and he's not. So why does this post exist and why doesn't it match up with any reasonable gamestate? This question is rhetorical only if it goes unanswered.
If that is Shockwave defending me, I am the President of the United States. Hint: I am not the POTUS.
That is Shockwave being overly self-concious, and it is very obviously that. And nothing else. You are trying way too hard to make something out of nothing here, and I can't see why you would do this if you were town.
@WG: This forum software sucks in basically every way possible for mafia. Just wait until you write up a quote and want to preview to see if new posts have been made that you need to respond to..
And I don't know what you think you are seeing re: Rhand, but I'm pretty sure I am onto something here.
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Actually, there's enough going on here, that I think I can just subvert RVS entirely. exciting.
I would not have voted shockwave for #13 alone, but #22 is really awkward in how it changes tone. he goes from the timid, to the over top panic mode, after 4 quick votes, which weren't the worst votes in the world. He doesn't even have the reason for the vote right. his #29 really just doesn't make sense, like, at all; he thinks we;re gonna lynch him without a claim, and is posing some odd hypotheticals. "I flip scum, then what?" is also really odd, it's like him saying "hypothetically if I'm scum, what would my lynch do?" well, you see, the only good answer would be we'd get to go into night without a day one mislynch. a rushed lynch on a scum is still a lynch on scum. why you'd even conceder this worthy of being asked, I don't bloody well know. like, this is one of the strangest things I've ever seen.
so all this said:
@Shockwave: please explain, in detail, why you asked the hypothetical question "I flip scum, then what?"?
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@SNL: you like, missed the issue of shockwave completely, and then go on a bad meta tangent. also, your RVS is really odd, and out of place, given that you attempted to be serious in the same post, without noticeably separating the two. your #41 however is actually a pretty decent explanation, and actually provides even more pressure on shockwave. it shows a solid disconnect between the self conscious timidness and the persistence of the vote.
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@Hans: IGMEOY. really, no actual comment on the wagon, just a blatant barn. psuedo RVS, while piling on the primary wagon at the same time. no good can come of this. also weird is how you ignored the pressure from cantrip, but answered the question that wasn't for you. why are you selectively reading the thread?
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wait, what pressure on Cyan? what is this? I don't even? this is so wrong, the only motive behind this post is either misrepresentation, or misrepresentation with intent to slander.
then your responce. you "serious vote" Cyan. for what? not having fun? wtf. did you actually intend that to put suspicion on him? how is that a tell? how is that anything? you're seriously telling me that was a serious vote on Cyan all for his post containing the exact phrase "...Have we met?"
so, yah, care to explain your actual thought process behind this vote, the initial one on Cyan? how does "...Have we met?" translate to "Hi, I'm Cyan, and I'm scum"? seriously, what is everyone else missing?
that, and how the heck was shock's post still trying to deflect off of Cyan? You know what, I do see what you're saying here, about the "having fun" comment, but you know, what. your vote was still awful, and had I picked up on it while reading page one, instead of page two, I'd probably have questioned you on it a lot earlier in this post. really I didn't even think, even with the serious disclaimer, that it was serious. like, at all.
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@wheat: everyone seems to have missed that Rhand's early vote was serious. I really don't get how you think only "bad at this game" Cyan makes this point. feel free to wait until after Cyan responds to you to respond to me, but what did you actually find wrong with this post, cause I'm just not seeing it, and I'm curious.
also, I've recently been introduced to this Silver rage tell bull*****. personally I think it's a giant pile of WIFOM garbage. from your response to cantrip, I feel like you feel somewhat similar to it. care to however directly respond to the tell itself, and what you think of it? is "Silver Rage" something that can reliably catch scum?
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I've asked alot of questions in this post however if Rhand does feel that his first vote on Cyan is serious. I'll gladly call it garbage, unfounded, and UnVote, Vote Rhand.
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It's all still early and weak, but it got conversation going.
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And again, Shockwave is not defending me there. He is over-explaining his own actions, and in a way that makes it pretty obvious he is not scum.
I did answer that.
And you, sir, are scum.
vote SNL
I didn't like how quick you were to meta-clear me in the first place, and you're extremely quick to forget your read on me.
Vote Cyan for being Obama, and lying about not being Obama. I've got plenty of circuitous evidence that proves he is Obama.
Aaaaanyway, Shockwave's freak-out and hypothetical questions make sense from town. I am of the belief that scum try to keep some knowledge of the game in the forefront of their minds as they play, so slips like thinking the game is progressing much faster than it actually is don't happen to them. I must assume that were Shock actually mafia, he would have some kind of life counter to track how far from L-2 he is. Thus, he wouldn't freak out when there were only 4 votes on him.
Far more problematic is Niv's wonderful vote for himself. Niv, why do you feel the need to avoid pushing buttons?
Vote Niv
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