Unless I am mistaken (and I usually am), if there are 12 people, it would make sense to assume 3 scum (all two of the games I have participated in on this site, excluding this one have been 12 people with 3 scum)
Intercepting questions to others that may provide content to us about info they have is bad play.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Thanks for confirmation, we'll lynch you on day three for the win
Hang on. How do you know there are 3 scum?
Unless I am mistaken (and I usually am), if there are 12 people, it would make sense to assume 3 scum (all two of the games I have participated in on this site, excluding this one have been 12 people with 3 scum)
True story...or covering for a buddy?
Possibly both
but just like the amount of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll
the world may never know.
It's not so much that he was confident in a 3-man scum squad but his response seemed odd.
The day is too early for anyone to be claiming, or really for any votes to be of significant merit.
You currently have an RVS vote on swissh, and that FoS on Lord McDonalds seems as though you don't want to be connected with an attack on him/be noncommittal.
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
]Only 10 people had posted and there was not much real content available yet. People posted after that with RVS activity, it was not over..... Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
I'm confuzzeled.
You acknowledge that people were still posting as if it were RVS (which with the exception of me answering the question, all my posts were).
You also acknowledge that my post was a reference to the Tootsie pop commercial (for reference)
so somehow my post was not a rvs post?
@Magenta, I cameo'd in 66 (Haruhi Suzumiya) and was in #71 until recently.
Yeah I may not like his posts but I'm not exactly ready to lynch anyone.
Unvote
Agrees with this.
LMCD's posts were odd, but definitely not ready to lynch on that. The response did seem odd, even if meant in the joking nature of RVS. Suspicious yes, lynch-worthy no...at least not this early.
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If the AC repair dude doesn't show up bright and early tomorrow, I'm gonna borrow some of DDS' dental tools to carve out his eye sockets like jack o lanterns.
You currently have an RVS vote on swissh, and that FoS on Lord McDonalds seems as though you don't want to be connected with an attack on him/be noncommittal.
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
(I can only quote it all, phone p)
But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
Because MTG-DDS said he had not played much online and was questioning if that was a scumtell or not. Also see below.
How do you propose to determine if MTG-DDS is town or scum?
Only 10 people had posted and there was not much real content available yet. People posted after that with RVS activity, it was not over.
How about this then, why didn't you respond to the developing situation?
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
This I can accept.
Well, almost.
Why do you say he might have thought RVS was going?
(I can only quote it all, phone p)
But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
This question is an issue of parsing. I don't get what you mean by "lady part".
Also still have no idea what's going on with this disgusting Trabant777/Lord_McDisgusting's/Wheat Grinder insanity circle, except that Lord Mc_Disgusting looks a little more scummy than the rest of them.
FoS Lord McDonalds
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Also still have no idea what's going on with this disgusting Trabant777/Lord_McDisgusting's/Wheat Grinder insanity circle, except that Lord Mc_Disgusting looks a little more scummy than the rest of them.
You acknowledge that people were still posting as if it were RVS (which with the exception of me answering the question, all my posts were).
You also acknowledge that my post was a reference to the Tootsie pop commercial so somehow my post was not a rvs post?.
It was RVS, but those posts look like a scumbuddy deflection followed up, when called out by DDS, as trying too hard to be scum. It was not a naked vote or anything, but the sequence of responses that make it look scummy.
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
This I can accept.
Well, almost.
Why do you say he might have thought RVS was going
Because its pretty clear more than one person didnt agree when RVS ended. His perception would alter his tone.
I am traveling tomorrow, might not have good access.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Because MTG-DDS said he had not played much online and was questioning if that was a scumtell or not. Also see below.
How do you propose to determine if MTG-DDS is town or scum?
Only 10 people had posted and there was not much real content available yet. People posted after that with RVS activity, it was not over.
How about this then, why didn't you respond to the developing situation?
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
This I can accept.
Well, almost.
Why do you say he might have thought RVS was going?
(I can only quote it all, phone p)
But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
This question is an issue of parsing. I don't get what you mean by "lady part".
Last part. Cellphone, why do you always make fun of me?
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
The day is too early for anyone to be claiming, or really for any votes to be of significant merit.
When do votes gain significant merit?
I'm not going to humor this question with an exact answer, but certainly we would need more than 10 posts to deem someone worthy of a lynch, don't you think?
To take it a step further, a lot of your posts aren't lining up.
I don't think its worse than Lord McD trying so hard to joke about bring scum.
Why not?
I believe is was when I posted that, but it may have ended in the responses since my post.
I did not ask if, I asked why. Please answer again.
Unvote, Vote Lord McD
Why?
You may not be defending LMcD yet, but you're questioning MRH's reasoning for voting him. Why exactly do you want to hear from at least 3 of the people voting? Most, if not all, of us had linked to a post or explained our vote when we did so.
I want to hear that from at least 3 of you before he claims.
Yet again you question the votes on LMcD. And why on earth would you suggest that his claiming is imminent?
My thoughts on the above: if LMcD is scum, then it wouldn't shock me if Wheat_Grinder is as well. This defending by proxy is strange. I don't see how this is town behavior.
(I can only quote it all, phone p)
But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
I figured he was referring to Lady Part. Well, not really but I did get a cheap laugh out of it. I read it as last part second time through.
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(I can only quote it all, phone p)
But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
I figured he was referring to Lady Part. Well, not really but I did get a cheap laugh out of it. I read it as last part second time through.
Ouch, thank you. You understood...
Argh, post on the phone sucks.
But, it's past now.
Unfortunatly, I've come back and forth looking why people didn't understand me, and now I see I've misread badly his post. Good thing I have my desktop back. I'm embarassed, so sorry.
To be fair (???) he corrected himself and said his reason for voting was because Wheat_Grinder was saying things I didn't like, which is true, but still a pretty horrible reason for a vote.
It's pretty early for this, but I'm going to give my scum rainbow.
Lord_McDonalds
Wheat_Grinder
Trabant777
Sixed - you need to post more
Grimnar
MRHblue
Annorax - you need to post more
Incognito
TK-421
Magenta
MTG~DDS
Swishh
If you're interested in my read on you, I'll gladly explain.
Also still have no idea what's going on with this disgusting Trabant777/Lord_McDisgusting's/Wheat Grinder insanity circle, except that Lord Mc_Disgusting looks a little more scummy than the rest of them.
I'm not going to humor this question with an exact answer, but certainly we would need more than 10 posts to deem someone worthy of a lynch, don't you think?
Why? And no, I don't think so.
Here you claim that Sixed was onto something by voting MRHblue but immediately turned around and said he was too eager.
He had a good point on MRHblue, but then he immediately turned around and had something that wasn't a slip.
You don't simply catch 3 scum in two posts. His overconfidence makes me less sure.
You may not be defending LMcD yet, but you're questioning MRH's reasoning for voting him. Why exactly do you want to hear from at least 3 of the people voting? Most, if not all, of us had linked to a post or explained our vote when we did so.
There were 5 votes on him in a very short timespan for something that very well could have been a joke. When a wagon gets pushed that quick, I tend to look closely at who's on board. More specifically, I look at why they are on board.
I also didn't want to stall out everything waiting for everyone.
Yet again you question the votes on LMcD. And why on earth would you suggest that his claiming is imminent?
Because on this site at least, L-2 means time to claim.
I don't necessarily think LMcD is town. I just don't like the speed of his wagon, nor the amount of /barning going on.
My thoughts on the above: if LMcD is scum, then it wouldn't shock me if Wheat_Grinder is as well. This defending by proxy is strange. I don't see how this is town behavior.
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
To be fair (???) he corrected himself and said his reason for voting was because Wheat_Grinder was saying things I didn't like, which is true, but still a pretty horrible reason for a vote.
It's pretty early for this, but I'm going to give my scum rainbow.
Lord_McDonalds
Wheat_Grinder
Trabant777
Sixed - you need to post more
Grimnar
MRHblue
Annorax - you need to post more
Incognito
TK-421
Magenta
MTG~DDS
Swishh
If you're interested in my read on you, I'll gladly explain.
I'm interested in you posting reasoning on everyone, if you already are that sure of alignments.
Thanks for confirmation, we'll lynch you on day three for the win
Hang on. How do you know there are 3 scum?
Unless I am mistaken (and I usually am), if there are 12 people, it would make sense to assume 3 scum (all two of the games I have participated in on this site, excluding this one have been 12 people with 3 scum)
True story...or covering for a buddy?
Unvote, Vote: MTG~DDS
Such a blatant mudsling.
How is calling for an answer to a very odd post mudslinging?
If the AC repair dude doesn't show up bright and early tomorrow, I'm gonna borrow some of DDS' dental tools to carve out his eye sockets like jack o lanterns.
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
Town.
Also, I don't think your defense of LMCD is anti-town (I don't want a quick lynch to turn into a mislynch either), but just a curiosity that deserves some explanation.
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If the AC repair dude doesn't show up bright and early tomorrow, I'm gonna borrow some of DDS' dental tools to carve out his eye sockets like jack o lanterns.
I'm not going to humor this question with an exact answer, but certainly we would need more than 10 posts to deem someone worthy of a lynch, don't you think?
Why? And no, I don't think so.
Then I'm impressed by your ability to judge alignment so quickly. Care to tell us who the scum are?
Here you claim that Sixed was onto something by voting MRHblue but immediately turned around and said he was too eager.
He had a good point on MRHblue, but then he immediately turned around and had something that wasn't a slip.
You don't simply catch 3 scum in two posts. His overconfidence makes me less sure.
Oh so does take a little while to catch scum. I agree.
You may not be defending LMcD yet, but you're questioning MRH's reasoning for voting him. Why exactly do you want to hear from at least 3 of the people voting? Most, if not all, of us had linked to a post or explained our vote when we did so.
There were 5 votes on him in a very short timespan for something that very well could have been a joke. When a wagon gets pushed that quick, I tend to look closely at who's on board. More specifically, I look at why they are on board.
I also didn't want to stall out everything waiting for everyone.
Why everyone was on board was obvious. He made a really scummy post. No one realized the ensuing bandwagon, and when we did with the post count, at least 2 of us unvoted.
Yet again you question the votes on LMcD. And why on earth would you suggest that his claiming is imminent?
Because on this site at least, L-2 means time to claim.
I don't necessarily think LMcD is town. I just don't like the speed of his wagon, nor the amount of /barning going on.
The day literally just began. It was an accumulation of pseudo-RVS votes combined with the aforementioned scummy post. I'm not going to pressure you on this, but I really hope you didn't expect him to claim.
My thoughts on the above: if LMcD is scum, then it wouldn't shock me if Wheat_Grinder is as well. This defending by proxy is strange. I don't see how this is town behavior.
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
Then that would have no effect on my read on you. His flipping scum would make strong evidence that you're his buddy defending him. And if he flipped a scum PR, it would look really bad for you.
To be fair (???) he corrected himself and said his reason for voting was because Wheat_Grinder was saying things I didn't like, which is true, but still a pretty horrible reason for a vote.
It's pretty early for this, but I'm going to give my scum rainbow.
Lord_McDonalds
Wheat_Grinder
Trabant777
Sixed - you need to post more
Grimnar
MRHblue
Annorax - you need to post more
Incognito
TK-421
Magenta
MTG~DDS
Swishh
If you're interested in my read on you, I'll gladly explain.
I'm interested in you posting reasoning on everyone, if you already are that sure of alignments.
I'm not "that sure." It's merely meant to reflect my current reads on people. You and LMcD are at the top for your interactions. I'm not disillusioned enough not to think I could be very wrong. Again, it's way too early for any sort of definitiveness and certainly too early for a lynch.
Then I'm impressed by your ability to judge alignment so quickly. Care to tell us who the scum are?[quote]
You said need. You don't need 10 posts to catch someone every time. I am not sure enough to lynch anyone yet, hence all this questioning and hunting I am doing.
[quote]Oh so does take a little while to catch scum. I agree.
Why everyone was on board was obvious. He made a really scummy post. No one realized the ensuing bandwagon, and when we did with the post count, at least 2 of us unvoted.
You'd be surprised what sometimes turns up.
The day literally just began. It was an accumulation of pseudo-RVS votes combined with the aforementioned scummy post. I'm not going to pressure you on this, but I really hope you didn't expect him to claim.
I really didn't want him to claim for that very reason, that's what I said what I said. Claiming on L-2 is how it's done unless the wagon dissolves somewhat like it did.
I'm not "that sure." It's merely meant to reflect my current reads on people. You and LMcD are at the top for your interactions. I'm not disillusioned enough not to think I could be very wrong. Again, it's way too early for any sort of definitiveness and certainly too early for a lynch.
I still want to hear reasoning.
Also I'm not following all the negatives in this sentence, what are you saying?
There's the possible MRH/Grimnar slip thing, and neither of them standing out significantly otherwise
TK-421's thing I mentioned above
Trabant's blatant hopping/following
Swishh and the 'wait how did you know there was three scum' thing
Lot of uncomfortable on one wagon, not interested in lynching LMD at this juncture - although people quickly bailing on it could be indicative of something
If I haven't mentioned you, don't have any thoughts worth noting
I don't like the wagon on Lord McDonalds at all. Quickwagons on D1 are way too scum-motivated, and while the things he said are scummy, I feel that the resulting quickwagon + his meta conclude to me that he is newb town. Bad town, for sure, but town nonetheless.
I want more pressure on Trabant and Annorax. Trabant's only content filled post is the one where he blatantly barns swissh, and Annorax's quick jump onto the Lord McDonalds wagon is even worse because that FoS on him means that he doesn't want to be connected with an attack on him.
More votes on Trabant please. Annorax we can deal D2, though I'll happily vote for either at this point.
I don't like the wagon on Lord McDonalds at all. Quickwagons on D1 are way too scum-motivated, and while the things he said are scummy, I feel that the resulting quickwagon + his meta conclude to me that he is newb town. Bad town, for sure, but town nonetheless.
I want more pressure on Trabant and Annorax. Trabant's only content filled post is the one where he blatantly barns swissh, and Annorax's quick jump onto the Lord McDonalds wagon is even worse because that FoS on him means that he doesn't want to be connected with an attack on him.
More votes on Trabant please. Annorax we can deal D2, though I'll happily vote for either at this point.
I would honestly love to know Trabant's reason for barning me. I'm not ready to vote him until he explains this.
Gonna be busy until sunday, so I guess I'll just leave my thoughts for now.
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
- I too would like to here more from Stewie Annorax
- Despite me answering it, I still didn't like swish's question at all, applying pressure on someone by asking for easily derived information hardly seems like a way to scumhunt.
- Since it's being discussed, I don't get the impression Trabent's vote was meant to be serious, at least now.
- The whole thing about my wagon seemed...off, I get my post comes off as scummy, but for a of people to vote, agree that quick lynching someone is a bad idea, and they may or may not be generally interested in voting me, comes off as stranger and far more esoteric than my response.
Dislike TK-421 - leaving vote on wagon, but no attempt to progress wagon further or ask questions to solidify read makes me uncomfortable
The vote is there to show who I believe to be the most likely mafia member. However, give me some time to push. It was one of my days off, and I get far less time online then.
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
Is there a reason you didn't just quote my explanation rather than paraphrase?
There's a little lacking in the way you posted that. So to add some context, I said "While I'm leaving my vote there, I'm not interested in a claim at this moment, and definitely not interested in such a quick lynch on Day 1." Contrasting your post to mine, you either misread very poorly, or you're trying to twist my words. I want my lynches to be good, and I've seen what happens when you quick-lynch Day 1 (in two different Mod Mafias). Things don't go well Day 2.
And again, I don't want you to claim RIGHT NOW. We don't need the info of whether you're a PR or not out in the open. However, I saw swishh unvote, and since you wouldn't and shouldn't be spooked into claiming, felt more than comfortable leaving my vote there to say you are the most suspicious.
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I don't like the wagon on Lord McDonalds at all. Quickwagons on D1 are way too scum-motivated, and while the things he said are scummy, I feel that the resulting quickwagon + his meta conclude to me that he is newb town. Bad town, for sure, but town nonetheless.
I want more pressure on Trabant and Annorax. Trabant's only content filled post is the one where he blatantly barns swissh, and Annorax's quick jump onto the Lord McDonalds wagon is even worse because that FoS on him means that he doesn't want to be connected with an attack on him.
More votes on Trabant please. Annorax we can deal D2, though I'll happily vote for either at this point.
I would honestly love to know Trabant's reason for barning me. I'm not ready to vote him until he explains this.
unvote Honestly, this being my first game, I wasn't aware that first day lynching was taboo... Also my reasoning was a joke, but I really did think that he was acting strange but now I kind of think that wheat grinder is the try to hard type.
I don't like the wagon on Lord McDonalds at all. Quickwagons on D1 are way too scum-motivated, and while the things he said are scummy, I feel that the resulting quickwagon + his meta conclude to me that he is newb town. Bad town, for sure, but town nonetheless.
I want more pressure on Trabant and Annorax. Trabant's only content filled post is the one where he blatantly barns swissh, and Annorax's quick jump onto the Lord McDonalds wagon is even worse because that FoS on him means that he doesn't want to be connected with an attack on him.
More votes on Trabant please. Annorax we can deal D2, though I'll happily vote for either at this point.
I would honestly love to know Trabant's reason for barning me. I'm not ready to vote him until he explains this.
unvote Honestly, this being my first game, I wasn't aware that first day lynching was taboo... Also my reasoning was a joke, but I really did think that he was acting strange but now I kind of think that wheat grinder is the try to hard type.
There's nothing wrong with a day 1 lynch at all. Day 1 should end in a lynch. If it was an RVS-style vote then I can see where you're coming from. But you should be aware how it looks when you barn another player so blatantly.
I'm still trying to get all the terms down heh, sorry! I guess barn means to agree with? Anyway, am mostly just lurking trying to figure out the dynamics :-D
I'm still trying to get all the terms down heh, sorry! I guess barn means to agree with? Anyway, am mostly just lurking trying to figure out the dynamics :-D
Yes. /barn comes from /barnacle, to latch onto the statement without adding anything.
To be fair (???) he corrected himself and said his reason for voting was because Wheat_Grinder was saying things I didn't like, which is true, but still a pretty horrible reason for a vote.
It's pretty early for this, but I'm going to give my scum rainbow.
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Wheat_Grinder
Trabant777
Sixed - you need to post more
Grimnar
MRHblue
Annorax - you need to post more
Incognito
TK-421
Magenta
MTG~DDS
Swishh
If you're interested in my read on you, I'll gladly explain.
Post#37 is just bad. Post#67 makes me think only one of MRHblue and L_McD is scum. Right now I'm leaning towards L_McD.
Post#27 is bad. Scum points for you.
Why do, again, specifically reference Sixed in post#30?
Post#31: Wheat_Grinder and TK-421 are not scum buddies.
Post#63: Things won't look for you if L_McD flips scum.
You seem to flip your votes around a lot.
I'm still not sure why you barned me, specifically. You said you're inexperienced, which is fine, but was it more of an RVS vote?
Awaiting more substantive posts from you and especially your reasoning for this:
If MRHblue and Grimnar are scum together (aka the original thing I quoted ends up being a slip), then I believe Swishh to be scum with them
Seems town so far - earnest scum hunting, inquiring about posts.
I retract my read from you. Please post more.
Most likely town.
Good reasons for votes, good posts, towny enough. Plus I don't see you and Wheat_Grinder being scum buddies.
Seems like a new town so far. It's still early and it will be interesting to see how you respond to heat.
You said need. You don't need 10 posts to catch someone every time. I am not sure enough to lynch anyone yet, hence all this questioning and hunting I am doing.
So if we don't need a bunch of posts to catch someone, why the hard defense on Lord McD with those posts? We dont want a mislynch, but if we caught scum lets keep the pressure on. I dont see any of these insightful questions sent Lord McDs way.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Ok, well the reason for the barn was random in that I used a joke to explain the vote, not understanding the implications of doing so. That being said I did think that Lord McDonalds activity was suspicous... However I didn't remember what RVS even was until I looked it up just now. Taking it all into perspective however I still think Lord McD is shady, but I'm more interested in pointing a FoSat MTG~DDS
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
Town.
Also, I don't think your defense of LMCD is anti-town (I don't want a quick lynch to turn into a mislynch either), but just a curiosity that deserves some explanation.
Something about this feels off... Like you are trying too hard to sound like you are town... Backing up Wheat Grinder and Lord McD saying you think they are both town... I think that your defense of them is a curiosity that needs further explaining.
So if we don't need a bunch of posts to catch someone, why the hard defense on Lord McD with those posts? We dont want a mislynch, but if we caught scum lets keep the pressure on. I dont see any of these insightful questions sent Lord McDs way.
I like to defuse quick early wagons to get more stuff to analyze; a quick day 1 doesn't help much for putting together final evidence in the endgame.
In addition, a lot of my defense was probing; I was looking at why people were voting LMCD. If he flips town, that's something that I've found to be useful. Also possibly useful if he flips scum, too, though not as likely.
I hadn't sent insightful questions LMCD's way because everyone else had him covered. There aren't many people probing in other directions, so I'm doing some legwork.
Ok, well the reason for the barn was random in that I used a joke to explain the vote, not understanding the implications of doing so. That being said I did think that Lord McDonalds activity was suspicous... However I didn't remember what RVS even was until I looked it up just now. Taking it all into perspective however I still think Lord McD is shady, but I'm more interested in pointing a FoSat MTG~DDS
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
Town.
Also, I don't think your defense of LMCD is anti-town (I don't want a quick lynch to turn into a mislynch either), but just a curiosity that deserves some explanation.
Something about this feels off... Like you are trying too hard to sound like you are town... Backing up Wheat Grinder and Lord McD saying you think they are both town... I think that your defense of them is a curiosity that needs further explaining.
Something about all your posts feels off.
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MRH is scummy but that vote is just terrible.
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Intercepting questions to others that may provide content to us about info they have is bad play.
I believe is was when I posted that, but it may have ended in the responses since my post.
Unvote, Vote Lord McD
Why not?
I did not ask if, I asked why. Please answer again.
Why?
Wheat Grinder (1): Annorax
MRHBlue (1): Sixed
Trabant777 (2): Wheat_Grinder, Incognito
Lord_McDonalds (5): Grimnar, TK-421, swishh, Trabant777, MRHBlue
Not Voting: Magenta, MTG~DDS, Lord_McDonalds
With 12 Alive, it's 7 to lynch.
So, everyone who's voting LMCD, why?
I want to hear that from at least 3 of you before he claims.
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To answer your question, I voted him due to this post:
It's not so much that he was confident in a 3-man scum squad but his response seemed odd.
The day is too early for anyone to be claiming, or really for any votes to be of significant merit.
The FoS was a joke, you count to three, as they do in the commercial referenced, on fingers.
Because MTG-DDS said he had not played much online and was questioning if that was a scumtell or not. Also see below.
Only 10 people had posted and there was not much real content available yet. People posted after that with RVS activity, it was not over.
His interception of a question that was obviously meant to pressure someone about a possible slip, and he seems to be trying a little to hard at being scummy. Maybe he thought RVS was going, but that's still pretty strange, early or not.
I'm confuzzeled.
You acknowledge that people were still posting as if it were RVS (which with the exception of me answering the question, all my posts were).
You also acknowledge that my post was a reference to the Tootsie pop commercial (for reference)
so somehow my post was not a rvs post?
@Magenta, I cameo'd in 66 (Haruhi Suzumiya) and was in #71 until recently.
Agrees with this.
LMCD's posts were odd, but definitely not ready to lynch on that. The response did seem odd, even if meant in the joking nature of RVS. Suspicious yes, lynch-worthy no...at least not this early.
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Yeah, because I hate RVS...
Or, I'm just moving houses and unpackging stuff for 36 hours without internet <3
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But, regarding the lady part, it loses sense judging that WG was the one to bring out the possibility of an really early lynch. Dont you agree?
When do votes gain significant merit?
How do you propose to determine if MTG-DDS is town or scum?
How about this then, why didn't you respond to the developing situation?
This I can accept.
Well, almost.
Why do you say he might have thought RVS was going?
This question is an issue of parsing. I don't get what you mean by "lady part".
Also still have no idea what's going on with this disgusting Trabant777/Lord_McDisgusting's/Wheat Grinder insanity circle, except that Lord Mc_Disgusting looks a little more scummy than the rest of them.
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Why use an FoS when you still have your vote?
It was RVS, but those posts look like a scumbuddy deflection followed up, when called out by DDS, as trying too hard to be scum. It was not a naked vote or anything, but the sequence of responses that make it look scummy.
I assume thats auto correct of Last Part, but I still dont understand the question. Please clarify.
Play the game . I mean there is not enough content to be sure now, we have to watch his interactions to see if hes really mudslinging.
I was RVSing and didn't notice anything right away, I saw more on a reread.
Because its pretty clear more than one person didnt agree when RVS ended. His perception would alter his tone.
I am traveling tomorrow, might not have good access.
I'm voting because of jumping in front of a question meant for another, and then responding to "Are you covering for a buddy" with possibly.
The second part especially raises red flags.
While I'm leaving my vote there, I'm not interested in a claim at this moment, and definitely not interested in such a quick lynch on Day 1.
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Last part. Cellphone, why do you always make fun of me?
I read 'last part', I just dont know what the question was and who was it directed to?
I'm not going to humor this question with an exact answer, but certainly we would need more than 10 posts to deem someone worthy of a lynch, don't you think?
To take it a step further, a lot of your posts aren't lining up.
Here you claim that Sixed was onto something by voting MRHblue but immediately turned around and said he was too eager.
You may not be defending LMcD yet, but you're questioning MRH's reasoning for voting him. Why exactly do you want to hear from at least 3 of the people voting? Most, if not all, of us had linked to a post or explained our vote when we did so.
Yet again you question the votes on LMcD. And why on earth would you suggest that his claiming is imminent?
My thoughts on the above: if LMcD is scum, then it wouldn't shock me if Wheat_Grinder is as well. This defending by proxy is strange. I don't see how this is town behavior.
I figured he was referring to Lady Part. Well, not really but I did get a cheap laugh out of it. I read it as last part second time through.
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Ouch, thank you. You understood...
Argh, post on the phone sucks.
But, it's past now.
Unfortunatly, I've come back and forth looking why people didn't understand me, and now I see I've misread badly his post. Good thing I have my desktop back. I'm embarassed, so sorry.
Also, I'd like to hear T777 intentions on this vote, because it's extremely odd, and I can't see any town intents behind it.
It's pretty early for this, but I'm going to give my scum rainbow.
Lord_McDonalds
Wheat_Grinder
Trabant777
Sixed - you need to post more
Grimnar
MRHblue
Annorax - you need to post more
Incognito
TK-421
Magenta
MTG~DDS
Swishh
If you're interested in my read on you, I'll gladly explain.
+town for Incognito.
I'll stop beating around the bush on this one. I was provoking him into more interactions.
What prompted the reread?
I can accept this.
Why? And no, I don't think so.
He had a good point on MRHblue, but then he immediately turned around and had something that wasn't a slip.
You don't simply catch 3 scum in two posts. His overconfidence makes me less sure.
There were 5 votes on him in a very short timespan for something that very well could have been a joke. When a wagon gets pushed that quick, I tend to look closely at who's on board. More specifically, I look at why they are on board.
I also didn't want to stall out everything waiting for everyone.
Because on this site at least, L-2 means time to claim.
I don't necessarily think LMcD is town. I just don't like the speed of his wagon, nor the amount of /barning going on.
What is your thought on my alignment if LMcD is town?
I'm interested in you posting reasoning on everyone, if you already are that sure of alignments.
How is calling for an answer to a very odd post mudslinging?
What is your reasoning behind calling out a bad post being worse than the original bad post?
Explanations can't show alignment? The post was indeed suspicious. I wasn't throwing him under a bus...just asking for explanation.
A very strong active defense for another player, but a)Why the "Why not?".
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Town.
Also, I don't think your defense of LMCD is anti-town (I don't want a quick lynch to turn into a mislynch either), but just a curiosity that deserves some explanation.
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Then I'm impressed by your ability to judge alignment so quickly. Care to tell us who the scum are? Oh so does take a little while to catch scum. I agree.
Why everyone was on board was obvious. He made a really scummy post. No one realized the ensuing bandwagon, and when we did with the post count, at least 2 of us unvoted.
The day literally just began. It was an accumulation of pseudo-RVS votes combined with the aforementioned scummy post. I'm not going to pressure you on this, but I really hope you didn't expect him to claim.
Then that would have no effect on my read on you. His flipping scum would make strong evidence that you're his buddy defending him. And if he flipped a scum PR, it would look really bad for you.
I'm not "that sure." It's merely meant to reflect my current reads on people. You and LMcD are at the top for your interactions. I'm not disillusioned enough not to think I could be very wrong. Again, it's way too early for any sort of definitiveness and certainly too early for a lynch.
You'd be surprised what sometimes turns up.
I really didn't want him to claim for that very reason, that's what I said what I said. Claiming on L-2 is how it's done unless the wagon dissolves somewhat like it did.
I still want to hear reasoning.
Also I'm not following all the negatives in this sentence, what are you saying?
Thanks for the clarification.
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On an unrelated point:
If MRHblue and Grimnar are scum together (aka the original thing I quoted ends up being a slip), then I believe Swishh to be scum with them
This is not necessarily actionable currently, but is a belief I wanted to point out in the event that it turns out they are scum
MTG~DDS is radiating earnest town
Dislike quickwagon on LMD, even if partially (mostly?) RVS fueled - initial reaction says it makes it more likely LMD is town than scum
Dislike TK-421 - leaving vote on wagon, but no attempt to progress wagon further or ask questions to solidify read makes me uncomfortable
Actually, I don't think I like anyone that was on the LMD wagon as of this votecount:
Lord_McDonalds (5): Grimnar, TK-421, swishh, Trabant777, MRHBlue
There's the possible MRH/Grimnar slip thing, and neither of them standing out significantly otherwise
TK-421's thing I mentioned above
Trabant's blatant hopping/following
Swishh and the 'wait how did you know there was three scum' thing
Lot of uncomfortable on one wagon, not interested in lynching LMD at this juncture - although people quickly bailing on it could be indicative of something
If I haven't mentioned you, don't have any thoughts worth noting
I want more pressure on Trabant and Annorax. Trabant's only content filled post is the one where he blatantly barns swissh, and Annorax's quick jump onto the Lord McDonalds wagon is even worse because that FoS on him means that he doesn't want to be connected with an attack on him.
More votes on Trabant please. Annorax we can deal D2, though I'll happily vote for either at this point.
Elaborate.
I would honestly love to know Trabant's reason for barning me. I'm not ready to vote him until he explains this.
- I don't like TK's vote on me, and not just because it's me, he's not interested in a lynch, he doesn't want me to claim, so why is he voting me?
- I too would like to here more from
StewieAnnorax- Despite me answering it, I still didn't like swish's question at all, applying pressure on someone by asking for easily derived information hardly seems like a way to scumhunt.
- Since it's being discussed, I don't get the impression Trabent's vote was meant to be serious, at least now.
- The whole thing about my wagon seemed...off, I get my post comes off as scummy, but for a of people to vote, agree that quick lynching someone is a bad idea, and they may or may not be generally interested in voting me, comes off as stranger and far more esoteric than my response.
The vote is there to show who I believe to be the most likely mafia member. However, give me some time to push. It was one of my days off, and I get far less time online then.
Is there a reason you didn't just quote my explanation rather than paraphrase?
There's a little lacking in the way you posted that. So to add some context, I said "While I'm leaving my vote there, I'm not interested in a claim at this moment, and definitely not interested in such a quick lynch on Day 1." Contrasting your post to mine, you either misread very poorly, or you're trying to twist my words. I want my lynches to be good, and I've seen what happens when you quick-lynch Day 1 (in two different Mod Mafias). Things don't go well Day 2.
And again, I don't want you to claim RIGHT NOW. We don't need the info of whether you're a PR or not out in the open. However, I saw swishh unvote, and since you wouldn't and shouldn't be spooked into claiming, felt more than comfortable leaving my vote there to say you are the most suspicious.
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unvote Honestly, this being my first game, I wasn't aware that first day lynching was taboo... Also my reasoning was a joke, but I really did think that he was acting strange but now I kind of think that wheat grinder is the try to hard type.
Go ahead and run, you'll only die tired.
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I'll give details on my reads later today.
There's nothing wrong with a day 1 lynch at all. Day 1 should end in a lynch. If it was an RVS-style vote then I can see where you're coming from. But you should be aware how it looks when you barn another player so blatantly.
Go ahead and run, you'll only die tired.
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Yes. /barn comes from /barnacle, to latch onto the statement without adding anything.
Post#37 is just bad. Post#67 makes me think only one of MRHblue and L_McD is scum. Right now I'm leaning towards L_McD.
Post#27 is bad. Scum points for you.
Why do, again, specifically reference Sixed in post#30?
Post#31: Wheat_Grinder and TK-421 are not scum buddies.
Post#63: Things won't look for you if L_McD flips scum.
You seem to flip your votes around a lot.
I'm still not sure why you barned me, specifically. You said you're inexperienced, which is fine, but was it more of an RVS vote?
Awaiting more substantive posts from you and especially your reasoning for this:
Seems town so far - earnest scum hunting, inquiring about posts.
I retract my read from you. Please post more.
Most likely town.
Good reasons for votes, good posts, towny enough. Plus I don't see you and Wheat_Grinder being scum buddies.
Seems like a new town so far. It's still early and it will be interesting to see how you respond to heat.
Towny posts, good voting so far.
So if we don't need a bunch of posts to catch someone, why the hard defense on Lord McD with those posts? We dont want a mislynch, but if we caught scum lets keep the pressure on. I dont see any of these insightful questions sent Lord McDs way.
Something about this feels off... Like you are trying too hard to sound like you are town... Backing up Wheat Grinder and Lord McD saying you think they are both town... I think that your defense of them is a curiosity that needs further explaining.
Go ahead and run, you'll only die tired.
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I like to defuse quick early wagons to get more stuff to analyze; a quick day 1 doesn't help much for putting together final evidence in the endgame.
In addition, a lot of my defense was probing; I was looking at why people were voting LMCD. If he flips town, that's something that I've found to be useful. Also possibly useful if he flips scum, too, though not as likely.
I hadn't sent insightful questions LMCD's way because everyone else had him covered. There aren't many people probing in other directions, so I'm doing some legwork.
Something about all your posts feels off.
Vote: Trabant777