2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Iso: How long do you feel RVS should last in a typical mafia game?
I generally try to kill it within the first 20 posts but there just wasn't anything for me to go off of. Occasionally, I'll make RVS last several hundred posts (see: Peso del Grande Mafia). So, I decided to milk it for what it was worth until someone did something. And now we have Misting.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So inquiring minds want to know what the **** is going on, but we are in some kind of infinite arbitraily large recursion loop of waiting to explain ourselves until Misting answers this question.
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
@Iso: Is that where you first attempted to kill RVS? (this is my last question about that, I think)
Probably, yeah. I don't feel like going through all of my posts to figure it out but that's the first time I consciously recall attempting to end the RVS (which isn't saying much since I usually post on my phone when I'm at work and don't remember a damn thing I post there half the time).
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'd vote Iso over that custard, but I don't like custard...
PG, what is this. Your first line shows you unvoting because RVS is over. Your second line says that if you liked custard you would be voting for Iso, which I would call a RVS vote.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And...it somehow makes me scum that my mind is fuzzy on what I posted and when while I have the early stages of bronchitis and post when at work on my phone when I work midnights and am horribly exhausted 9 times out of 10 when you ask me? Would you like me to go through my posts again and figure out if I tried to end RVS before that?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm sorry about your conditions, but I'm not sure why you are bringing them up. You didn't have to rush to give me an answer you weren't sure about; I would much rather you give me a solid answer when you get a chance, even if it takes a while for you to get to a position where you can do that.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
33, 46, 58, 76, and 90 were all serious posts. I attempted to make SOMETHING happen by proposing the mass name claim, but that never came to fruition, so my Misting vote was the first actual non-RVS post of the game, IMO.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Misting: Depends on which part of your statement you're referring to. Care to clarify?
I'm refering to "Could be covering..." onwards.
In that case, yes, it does make anything you say regarding my postcount completely invalid. (I initially said something infraction-worthy here, but decided to tone it down just because people like it better when I play nice. :shrug:) If you'd like, I'll dig up my postcounts in every single game I've been in, along with how many posts were in that game overall, my alignment, and what # I was in regards to "most prolific poster" in that game.
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I don't see the point of a mass claim rights now. What sort of discussion are you hoping to gain by it, Iso?
Any, given that at the time, no one was doing anything worth mention. However, I think we're starting to get somewhere. Unvote, Vote Misting
Glad you think we're getting somewhere. That means that my (surprise!) RVS-killer worked; i.e. post 50. Wessel caught on with the Basic 66/DJ comment. I am well aware that post-count alone is good for nothing, and doesn't say a thing about alignment/role to me. That should answer Wessel here.
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
So, for those of you who we're not in/did not read Basic 66, here's what I did: In that game, DJ made post 19, which came under a bunch of scrutiny for cop labeling. What I have done is take that post and copy it, changing up the names. Seriously, read his post and compare it to mine. My intent was to see if 1) I could garner similar reactions and thus end RVS, and 2) see how people who we're in that game (Wessel and LMcD, though I don't think the later got it) reacted. It should be noted that when I made that post was the only time it would have worked, as there were three non-posters and one who was posting more.
I'll start with 2: Wessel
Same sort of caution as he gave in 66. Not sure why, having made his comment, he did not follow through on it. Given that, townie points to Wessel for the caution itself and reacting the same.
As for the rest, Iso was the first to attack me, and pretty much for the reasons (I think) that I would have thought. The one thing that concerns me is this: The original post (at least when I read it) gives a sense of "I don't know what the posting means. It could be this, it could be that, it could be anything". That is in fact how DJ had meant it. Iso seems to immediatly assume that it is an attack, though, which makes me think he's worried/thinking about that a lot, which is a scum mindset. It's weak, though, and Iso remains neurtal to me.
Tom gets townie points to me for questioning Iso like he did, and only FO really stands out to me besides.
So inquiring minds want to know what the **** is going on, but we are in some kind of infinite arbitraily large recursion loop of waiting to explain ourselves until Misting answers this question.
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
So, I've got my eye on Iso, hightest poster by far, could be covering for lurking scumbuddies. Could be cop. We don't know yet.
Alternatively, dazbog, Ellemeno P, and Wessel lurking scumteam?
I don't like this post. It strikes me as very opportunistic, especially considering he had made several posts after my gambit with no mention of it, including one which responds to me. Unvote, Vote: Forgotten One
Why the wait?
@Iso: Specifically what were your reasons for voting me, and why did you want to wait to tell Tom your reasoning?
@Tom: What was your initial impression of my gambit post (before you read this one)?
@Wessel: You clearly made the DJ connection, so what was your thought process afterwards?
As for the rest, Iso was the first to attack me, and pretty much for the reasons (I think) that I would have thought. The one thing that concerns me is this: The original post (at least when I read it) gives a sense of "I don't know what the posting means. It could be this, it could be that, it could be anything". That is in fact how DJ had meant it. Iso seems to immediatly assume that it is an attack, though, which makes me think he's worried/thinking about that a lot, which is a scum mindset. It's weak, though, and Iso remains neurtal to me.
Tom, this will answer your question as well.
My issue with your post is that it seemed to me you were clearly fishing for some sort of reaction in regards to whether or not I am some kind of PR in this game. The aspect of what you said that stuck out to me the most was that you seemed to leave it open-ended for me to reply to, so to cut discussion of that off at the head, I offered to direct you to any game ever that I've played in, in regards to my postcount. My role information, whether I'm VT or a PR, doesn't need to be ousted at this point. (If you'll note, as I said prior, I don't believe roles would be ousted based on a name claim.)
So inquiring minds want to know what the **** is going on, but we are in some kind of infinite arbitraily large recursion loop of waiting to explain ourselves until Misting answers this question.
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
So, I've got my eye on Iso, hightest poster by far, could be covering for lurking scumbuddies. Could be cop. We don't know yet.
Alternatively, dazbog, Ellemeno P, and Wessel lurking scumteam?
I don't like this post. It strikes me as very opportunistic, especially considering he had made several posts after my gambit with no mention of it, including one which responds to me. Unvote, Vote: Forgotten One
This actually reminds me of what I did in ST:V Mafia. I saw a town-on-town slapfight coming up due to poggydude falseclaiming 7 of 9, Miller, and then Artifice counterclaimed him without reading anything else and I wanted to see which wagon I could jump on.
However, while this deserves a ":eyebrow:", I think your fishing is far worse in this case, Misting.
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@Iso: Specifically what were your reasons for voting me, and why did you want to wait to tell Tom your reasoning?
See above. As for why I didn't want to immediately tell Tom my reasoning, I wanted to see your rationale, as if I had answered his question prior to your answer, then your reaction could be less genuine. Given that you are my top scumspect at this point in time, a tainted reaction is obviously something I do not want.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
My issue with your post is that it seemed to me you were clearly fishing for some sort of reaction in regards to whether or not I am some kind of PR in this game. The aspect of what you said that stuck out to me the most was that you seemed to leave it open-ended for me to reply to, so to cut discussion of that off at the head, I offered to direct you to any game ever that I've played in, in regards to my postcount. My role information, whether I'm VT or a PR, doesn't need to be ousted at this point. (If you'll note, as I said prior, I don't believe roles would be ousted based on a name claim.)
Then you are reacting exactly as happened in Basic 66 to DJ's post. As I said, he was attacked for "cop labeling", that is, fishing for power roles. Now, one benefit of using you as the target is that I know your not going to claim from it (the mass-claim suggestion doesn't enter into it).
And exactly what benefit do you gain from that? Moreover, what benefit would I have to claiming? Are you trying to say you hoped to evoke a claim from me?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Misting: My initial impression of your gambit post was that you were just town trying to get reactions. I didn't even think about that post having to do with fishing for role info, however.
I don't see the point of a mass claim rights now. What sort of discussion are you hoping to gain by it, Iso?
Any, given that at the time, no one was doing anything worth mention. However, I think we're starting to get somewhere.
Unvote, Vote Misting
This stood out to me when I read it.
"given that at the time, no one was doing anything worth mention." This feels really out of place. We were in RVS, a point in the game where people almost never do anything worth mentioning, but this reads like Iso was expecting the opposite.
Clearly it shows that Iso was trying to rush RVS to a closing point, and I didn't know what to think about that. I've never seen RVS as a bad thing. That's the reasoning behind the questions I asked him about RVS; I was trying to understand his motives and I was also seeing if I could catch him in a contradiction.
His answers were satisfying, but what I don't like is his being overly defensive (125, 127).
And of course I hate that he broke the bowl of custard. I still got a little of the ground via the 5 second rule, but the rest... what a waste.
"Don't we have some students?"
"Some what?"
"Students! You know, those buggers that eat all the food and move rather too fast in the hallways."
"What about 'em?"
"Hm. Can't remember now."
Vote Count:
Pikachugundam (2): Lord_McDonalds, AtheistGod
AtheistGod (1): Ellemenno P
Ellemenno P (1): Rhand
Forgotten One (1): Misting
Iso (1): Tom
Misting (1): Iso
Wessel (1): Forgotten One
Not voting: dazbog_eaterofsouls, EtR, pikachugundam, Wessel
@Tom: I always look for something to jump on in the RVS. Go see Deitriptychos Mafia where I caught Void in his first post. And naturally I'm going to be defensive if I think someone is attacking me for bad reasons or confused if I don't understand why they're attacking me. Are you going to answer my question? What do you think of Misting's role fishing?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
I don't like Misting's suggestion of Iso being a PR. If Iso is scum, there is no harm done, but if he's not, we don't want to point out our PR's to the scum.
But it was RVS and I didn't pay attention to the post at that time.
Now Wessel brings this back up, and wants reasoning for why Iso might be a PR. I don't like that one bit. FoS: Wessel
@Misting: please stop explaining why you think someone is a PR
And...it somehow makes me scum that my mind is fuzzy on what I posted and when while I have the early stages of bronchitis and post when at work on my phone when I work midnights and am horribly exhausted 9 times out of 10 when you ask me? Would you like me to go through my posts again and figure out if I tried to end RVS before that?
Iso somehow assumes we all know (or atleast Tom knows) that he is in the early bronchitis stages and on his phone and working midnights.
I would be fine with this post if it said "I am in the early stages of bronchitis ... 9 times out of 10, so my mind is fuzzy. Would you ..."
I think he's scum; not because, but how he brings these excuses up.
I had already stated very succinctly earlier in the game that I am, in fact, sick.
There was a debacle in MM4 that involved my schedule and phone posting. Tom was in MM4 so he should be blatantly aware of the fact that all of what I have said pertaining to that is true. He even has the ability to look that up.
Meanwhile, you are voting me for minute phrasings while I'm really ****ing irate that I'm coughing up blood? If I'm wrong, correct me, but if I'm not then get the **** over yourself because I'm seriously not in the mood right now. I'm not trying to pity people out of scrutinizing me - quite the opposite. The fact that I'm continuing to post should be indicative of my mindset - that being that I've nothing to hide - instead of waiting until I'm clear-headed enough to make a truly cohesive post as a defense as opposed to my uncensored emotional snap response. Tl;dr: I'm angry because I feel like I'm being attacked for not posting elegantly and for a meta reason Rhand clearly didn't understand. I can't even remember what the first half of this post says. Sorry if I went into ad hom at any point.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Wow I just read my last post and I am clearly not in a rational state of mind for Mafia right now. @Mod: I'll be V/LA until I can get some antibiotics or something and some much-needed rest. Sorry for any inconvenience but I shouldn't be more than 4 days on this. I may make a few posts in the meantime but nothing super-laden with content.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I missed you saying that you were sick.
@Tom: can you confirm that you know about the midnight working?
@Iso: I hope you get well soon.
I'm not taking offence on how you wrote that post; if you really are coughing up blood you should be in bed without your phone.
Wow I just read my last post and I am clearly not in a rational state of mind for Mafia right now. @Mod: I'll be V/LA until I can get some antibiotics or something and some much-needed rest. Sorry for any inconvenience but I shouldn't be more than 4 days on this. I may make a few posts in the meantime but nothing super-laden with content.
Got some free(!) antibiotics with my Martin's card so I'm gonna poke around for a few more minutes and get some (much-needed) sleep. Sorry for blowing up earlier, guys; for those of you who don't know me, I'm not usually that bad, promise.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Misting: I was waiting for you just like everybody else was.... I was just tired of waiting.
And your "RVS killer" was less than impressive garbage as far as I'm concerned. You were obviously either being sarcastic or a total Mafia noob. I just wanted to know which so we could all move along.
tl;dr You are not as clever as you think you are...
And exactly what benefit do you gain from that? Moreover, what benefit would I have to claiming? Are you trying to say you hoped to evoke a claim from me?
It was an RVS ender. I wanted people to react, to attack me, etc., and it worked. I'm saying exactly the opposite with regards to claiming: I did not think you would claim, moreover it would be stupid if you did. What I meant with regards to "the benefit" was that you're an extremely experienced player, which means that (unlike what DJ was accused in part of doing) you won't "noob out" and claim. Make more sense?
@Misting: What made you think Iso is cop for his posting style? Alternatively, why do you think his high amount of posting is likely to be because he's covering for his scum buddies?
I don't like Misting's suggestion of Iso being a PR. If Iso is scum, there is no harm done, but if he's not, we don't want to point out our PR's to the scum.
But it was RVS and I didn't pay attention to the post at that time.
Now Wessel brings this back up, and wants reasoning for why Iso might be a PR. I don't like that one bit. FoS: Wessel
@Misting: please stop explaining why you think someone is a PR
And...it somehow makes me scum that my mind is fuzzy on what I posted and when while I have the early stages of bronchitis and post when at work on my phone when I work midnights and am horribly exhausted 9 times out of 10 when you ask me? Would you like me to go through my posts again and figure out if I tried to end RVS before that?
Iso somehow assumes we all know (or atleast Tom knows) that he is in the early bronchitis stages and on his phone and working midnights.
I would be fine with this post if it said "I am in the early stages of bronchitis ... 9 times out of 10, so my mind is fuzzy. Would you ..."
I think he's scum; not because, but how he brings these excuses up.
vote: Iso
Please read my posts. I am not saying he is a PR. I baselessly labled him as a gambit and have revealed this. Nothing can be judged about his role from this.
Jesus man, lay off the IRL accusations! Cut the sick man some slack! IRL explanations are neither here nor there, and should not be treated as indicative.
@Misting: I was waiting for you just like everybody else was.... I was just tired of waiting.
And your "RVS killer" was less than impressive garbage as far as I'm concerned. You were obviously either being sarcastic or a total Mafia noob. I just wanted to know which so we could all move along.
tl;dr You are not as clever as you think you are...
But it worked, didn't it? Granted, I've only completed one game, but sarcasm? How so?
@Your tl;dr: I highly suggest it. I'll be the first to say I have arrogance issues, but don't pass it off as garbage if you haven't read it.
But it worked, didn't it? Granted, I've only completed one game, but sarcasm? How so?
@Your tl;dr: I highly suggest it. I'll be the first to say I have arrogance issues, but don't pass it off as garbage if you haven't read it.
You had to have been sarcastic in order to a) call out Iso as scummy for posting too much, then b) call out three other players as a "lurking scumteam" for posting too little... that's why I sarcastically remarked how you "Ryo0okied" the game.
Oh and a I love the part about how Iso is either overposting to cover for his scumbuddies or he's the Cop... that's gold.
And I'm not sure what you think "worked". You do something scummy, people want to know what you were trying to say, and you turn around and say "Look it worked!". What did you expect people to do, just ignore you?
Here, you can try this one on for size: Unvote, Vote: Misting
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Are you going to answer my question? What do you think of Misting's role fishing?
I don't see it as scummy.
1) It's a weak scheme. I doubt too much role information would ever come to the scum by doing such a thing, and randomly suggesting that someone is a cop is almost obviously going to result in a lot of attention directed at the suggester. I can't see the mafia wanting that much attention for very little if any gain.
2) Misting's post is joey's post in Basic 66. I think that shows effort put into a town gambit, rather than an excuse that mafia can lean on.
3) Misting isn't playing at all like he did in KOTH, so based on meta (and the above) I have him leaning town.
I missed you saying that you were sick.
@Tom: can you confirm that you know about the midnight working?
How did you miss him saying that he was sick when you quoted and referred to him saying that he had bronchitis?
I did not know about the midnight working, but that is most likely because I don't remember such details in past games. I don't think he is lying, but if you really want me to I'll try to scan though MM4 to find where he said it.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Tom: I don't see you ask me any defined questions in your last post. Or if you did, you didn't signify it with a question mark. But my second line was one last RVS jibe. And aren't you still in RVS if you're licking custard off the floor? Like I said... I'm not the one licking custard off the floor...
@Iso: I hope you feel better.
On Misting, I do not believe he is scum for running an attempt to end RVS gambit. And I'm not quite sure why other people think the gambit is scummy since he explained what he was trying to get out of it.
1) It's a weak scheme. I doubt too much role information would ever come to the scum by doing such a thing, and randomly suggesting that someone is a cop is almost obviously going to result in a lot of attention directed at the suggester. I can't see the mafia wanting that much attention for very little if any gain.
What is your opinion on Wessel asking Misting why he thinks Iso is a cop?
2) Misting's post is joey's post in Basic 66. I think that shows effort put into a town gambit, rather than an excuse that mafia can lean on.
He might as well have searched for a town gambit in another game to copy here as mafia so that when he gets called out on it, he can use the other game as proof that it's a town gambit.
I missed you saying that you were sick.
@Tom: can you confirm that you know about the midnight working?
How did you miss him saying that he was sick when you quoted and referred to him saying that he had bronchitis?
I did not know about the midnight working, but that is most likely because I don't remember such details in past games. I don't think he is lying, but if you really want me to I'll try to scan though MM4 to find where he said it.
I meant I missed him saying he was sick earlier. I checked back and he indeed, like he claims, told us he was sick during RVS.
I don't think it's necessary to look it up. He won't lie about something that is so easy to check.
I had the impression it was all coming from nowhere, and he somehow assumed you knew it all. I was wrong, so I'll drop it.
unvote
@Wessel: I would like your reaction on why you asked Misting to explain why Iso is a cop.
@Tom: I don't see you ask me any defined questions in your last post. Or if you did, you didn't signify it with a question mark. But my second line was one last RVS jibe. And aren't you still in RVS if you're licking custard off the floor? Like I said... I'm not the one licking custard off the floor...
RVS is random voting stage. Just because I've been making jokes about custard doesn't mean I'm in RVS; you suggesting that you might vote him for the custard alone does, though.
1) It's a weak scheme. I doubt too much role information would ever come to the scum by doing such a thing, and randomly suggesting that someone is a cop is almost obviously going to result in a lot of attention directed at the suggester. I can't see the mafia wanting that much attention for very little if any gain.
What is your opinion on Wessel asking Misting why he thinks Iso is a cop?
I don't have much of an opinion on it. It's a question that makes sense.
2) Misting's post is joey's post in Basic 66. I think that shows effort put into a town gambit, rather than an excuse that mafia can lean on.
He might as well have searched for a town gambit in another game to copy here as mafia so that when he gets called out on it, he can use the other game as proof that it's a town gambit.
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@Iso: I originally voted you because RVS custard, then I unvoted and voted you a second time because I didn't like your weak answer, and then I left my vote on because your reactions were interesting. Now I'm not voting you anymore.
Yes.
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You know what I mean, though.
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Will you tell me where you're hoping your questions of Misting will go once they're answered? (As in, tell me after they're answered?)
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I'll take that as a yes on both options.
Also, please explain your vote on Misting.
I generally try to kill it within the first 20 posts but there just wasn't anything for me to go off of. Occasionally, I'll make RVS last several hundred posts (see: Peso del Grande Mafia). So, I decided to milk it for what it was worth until someone did something. And now we have Misting.
Maybe later.
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Why?
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@Iso: Is that where you first attempted to kill RVS? (this is my last question about that, I think)
infinitearbitraily large recursion loop of waiting to explain ourselves until Misting answers this question.So Misting, what's the story with this post?
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Probably, yeah. I don't feel like going through all of my posts to figure it out but that's the first time I consciously recall attempting to end the RVS (which isn't saying much since I usually post on my phone when I'm at work and don't remember a damn thing I post there half the time).
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I'm already voting you but I'll do it again: Unvote, Vote: Iso
PG, what is this. Your first line shows you unvoting because RVS is over. Your second line says that if you liked custard you would be voting for Iso, which I would call a RVS vote.
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Yeah, you are, because it was more like:
"Is that when you first attempted to end RVS?"
"Probably, I think so, I'm not going to check though, so as far as I can consciously recall, yeah."
Sounds as if you are something like 40% sure about what you are saying. Weak.
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I'm sorry about your conditions, but I'm not sure why you are bringing them up. You didn't have to rush to give me an answer you weren't sure about; I would much rather you give me a solid answer when you get a chance, even if it takes a while for you to get to a position where you can do that.
Also, I never called you scum.
If you're not voting me because you think I'm scum...why are you voting me?
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Glad you think we're getting somewhere. That means that my (surprise!) RVS-killer worked; i.e. post 50. Wessel caught on with the Basic 66/DJ comment. I am well aware that post-count alone is good for nothing, and doesn't say a thing about alignment/role to me. That should answer Wessel here.
So, for those of you who we're not in/did not read Basic 66, here's what I did: In that game, DJ made post 19, which came under a bunch of scrutiny for cop labeling. What I have done is take that post and copy it, changing up the names. Seriously, read his post and compare it to mine. My intent was to see if 1) I could garner similar reactions and thus end RVS, and 2) see how people who we're in that game (Wessel and LMcD, though I don't think the later got it) reacted. It should be noted that when I made that post was the only time it would have worked, as there were three non-posters and one who was posting more.
I'll start with 2: Wessel
Same sort of caution as he gave in 66. Not sure why, having made his comment, he did not follow through on it. Given that, townie points to Wessel for the caution itself and reacting the same.
As for the rest, Iso was the first to attack me, and pretty much for the reasons (I think) that I would have thought. The one thing that concerns me is this: The original post (at least when I read it) gives a sense of "I don't know what the posting means. It could be this, it could be that, it could be anything". That is in fact how DJ had meant it. Iso seems to immediatly assume that it is an attack, though, which makes me think he's worried/thinking about that a lot, which is a scum mindset. It's weak, though, and Iso remains neurtal to me.
Tom gets townie points to me for questioning Iso like he did, and only FO really stands out to me besides.
I don't like this post. It strikes me as very opportunistic, especially considering he had made several posts after my gambit with no mention of it, including one which responds to me. Unvote, Vote: Forgotten One
Why the wait?
@Iso: Specifically what were your reasons for voting me, and why did you want to wait to tell Tom your reasoning?
@Tom: What was your initial impression of my gambit post (before you read this one)?
@Wessel: You clearly made the DJ connection, so what was your thought process afterwards?
Tom, this will answer your question as well.
My issue with your post is that it seemed to me you were clearly fishing for some sort of reaction in regards to whether or not I am some kind of PR in this game. The aspect of what you said that stuck out to me the most was that you seemed to leave it open-ended for me to reply to, so to cut discussion of that off at the head, I offered to direct you to any game ever that I've played in, in regards to my postcount. My role information, whether I'm VT or a PR, doesn't need to be ousted at this point. (If you'll note, as I said prior, I don't believe roles would be ousted based on a name claim.)
This actually reminds me of what I did in ST:V Mafia. I saw a town-on-town slapfight coming up due to poggydude falseclaiming 7 of 9, Miller, and then Artifice counterclaimed him without reading anything else and I wanted to see which wagon I could jump on.
However, while this deserves a ":eyebrow:", I think your fishing is far worse in this case, Misting.
See above. As for why I didn't want to immediately tell Tom my reasoning, I wanted to see your rationale, as if I had answered his question prior to your answer, then your reaction could be less genuine. Given that you are my top scumspect at this point in time, a tainted reaction is obviously something I do not want.
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Then you are reacting exactly as happened in Basic 66 to DJ's post. As I said, he was attacked for "cop labeling", that is, fishing for power roles. Now, one benefit of using you as the target is that I know your not going to claim from it (the mass-claim suggestion doesn't enter into it).
@Tom: Thoughts now that Iso has talked?
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This stood out to me when I read it.
"given that at the time, no one was doing anything worth mention." This feels really out of place. We were in RVS, a point in the game where people almost never do anything worth mentioning, but this reads like Iso was expecting the opposite.
Clearly it shows that Iso was trying to rush RVS to a closing point, and I didn't know what to think about that. I've never seen RVS as a bad thing. That's the reasoning behind the questions I asked him about RVS; I was trying to understand his motives and I was also seeing if I could catch him in a contradiction.
His answers were satisfying, but what I don't like is his being overly defensive (125, 127).
And of course I hate that he broke the bowl of custard. I still got a little of the ground via the 5 second rule, but the rest... what a waste.
"Some what?"
"Students! You know, those buggers that eat all the food and move rather too fast in the hallways."
"What about 'em?"
"Hm. Can't remember now."
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Pikachugundam (2): Lord_McDonalds, AtheistGod
AtheistGod (1): Ellemenno P
Ellemenno P (1): Rhand
Forgotten One (1): Misting
Iso (1): Tom
Misting (1): Iso
Wessel (1): Forgotten One
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I don't like Misting's suggestion of Iso being a PR. If Iso is scum, there is no harm done, but if he's not, we don't want to point out our PR's to the scum.
But it was RVS and I didn't pay attention to the post at that time.
Now Wessel brings this back up, and wants reasoning for why Iso might be a PR. I don't like that one bit.
FoS: Wessel
@Misting: please stop explaining why you think someone is a PR
That said, look at this post:
Iso somehow assumes we all know (or atleast Tom knows) that he is in the early bronchitis stages and on his phone and working midnights.
I would be fine with this post if it said "I am in the early stages of bronchitis ... 9 times out of 10, so my mind is fuzzy. Would you ..."
I think he's scum; not because, but how he brings these excuses up.
vote: Iso
I had already stated very succinctly earlier in the game that I am, in fact, sick.
There was a debacle in MM4 that involved my schedule and phone posting. Tom was in MM4 so he should be blatantly aware of the fact that all of what I have said pertaining to that is true. He even has the ability to look that up.
Meanwhile, you are voting me for minute phrasings while I'm really ****ing irate that I'm coughing up blood? If I'm wrong, correct me, but if I'm not then get the **** over yourself because I'm seriously not in the mood right now. I'm not trying to pity people out of scrutinizing me - quite the opposite. The fact that I'm continuing to post should be indicative of my mindset - that being that I've nothing to hide - instead of waiting until I'm clear-headed enough to make a truly cohesive post as a defense as opposed to my uncensored emotional snap response. Tl;dr: I'm angry because I feel like I'm being attacked for not posting elegantly and for a meta reason Rhand clearly didn't understand. I can't even remember what the first half of this post says. Sorry if I went into ad hom at any point.
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@Tom: can you confirm that you know about the midnight working?
@Iso: I hope you get well soon.
I'm not taking offence on how you wrote that post; if you really are coughing up blood you should be in bed without your phone.
Ok. Go to the doctor.
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And your "RVS killer" was less than impressive garbage as far as I'm concerned. You were obviously either being sarcastic or a total Mafia noob. I just wanted to know which so we could all move along.
tl;dr You are not as clever as you think you are...
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It was an RVS ender. I wanted people to react, to attack me, etc., and it worked. I'm saying exactly the opposite with regards to claiming: I did not think you would claim, moreover it would be stupid if you did. What I meant with regards to "the benefit" was that you're an extremely experienced player, which means that (unlike what DJ was accused in part of doing) you won't "noob out" and claim. Make more sense?
Please read my posts. I am not saying he is a PR. I baselessly labled him as a gambit and have revealed this. Nothing can be judged about his role from this.
Jesus man, lay off the IRL accusations! Cut the sick man some slack! IRL explanations are neither here nor there, and should not be treated as indicative.
But it worked, didn't it? Granted, I've only completed one game, but sarcasm? How so?
@Your tl;dr: I highly suggest it. I'll be the first to say I have arrogance issues, but don't pass it off as garbage if you haven't read it.
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Realized that I had yet to unvote.
You had to have been sarcastic in order to a) call out Iso as scummy for posting too much, then b) call out three other players as a "lurking scumteam" for posting too little... that's why I sarcastically remarked how you "Ryo0okied" the game.
Oh and a I love the part about how Iso is either overposting to cover for his scumbuddies or he's the Cop... that's gold.
And I'm not sure what you think "worked". You do something scummy, people want to know what you were trying to say, and you turn around and say "Look it worked!". What did you expect people to do, just ignore you?
Here, you can try this one on for size: Unvote, Vote: Misting
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@Forgotten One: Your last post comes across as forced to me.
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I don't see it as scummy.
1) It's a weak scheme. I doubt too much role information would ever come to the scum by doing such a thing, and randomly suggesting that someone is a cop is almost obviously going to result in a lot of attention directed at the suggester. I can't see the mafia wanting that much attention for very little if any gain.
2) Misting's post is joey's post in Basic 66. I think that shows effort put into a town gambit, rather than an excuse that mafia can lean on.
3) Misting isn't playing at all like he did in KOTH, so based on meta (and the above) I have him leaning town.
How did you miss him saying that he was sick when you quoted and referred to him saying that he had bronchitis?
I did not know about the midnight working, but that is most likely because I don't remember such details in past games. I don't think he is lying, but if you really want me to I'll try to scan though MM4 to find where he said it.
What does this have to do with anything?
Maybe try contributing to the game? Maybe answer my question?
Cool, so are you going to contribute to the game any time soon?
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@Iso: I hope you feel better.
On Misting, I do not believe he is scum for running an attempt to end RVS gambit. And I'm not quite sure why other people think the gambit is scummy since he explained what he was trying to get out of it.
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What is your opinion on Wessel asking Misting why he thinks Iso is a cop?
He might as well have searched for a town gambit in another game to copy here as mafia so that when he gets called out on it, he can use the other game as proof that it's a town gambit.
I meant I missed him saying he was sick earlier. I checked back and he indeed, like he claims, told us he was sick during RVS.
I don't think it's necessary to look it up. He won't lie about something that is so easy to check.
I had the impression it was all coming from nowhere, and he somehow assumed you knew it all. I was wrong, so I'll drop it.
unvote
@Wessel: I would like your reaction on why you asked Misting to explain why Iso is a cop.
I thought I just answered it. What question are you referring to?
RVS is random voting stage. Just because I've been making jokes about custard doesn't mean I'm in RVS; you suggesting that you might vote him for the custard alone does, though.
I don't have much of an opinion on it. It's a question that makes sense.
Right, but I think that is less likely.
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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