Well I'm hoping the anti-vanilla nature will keep people interested as well as the fact that anyone who goes back to read High School Mafia will know this is *not* going to be a game that you can snooze your way to the end in. This is also why I wanted to make is a player's choice game. I would say that if it goes up for vote, I wouldn't start it unless I have 35 players vote for it and give some kind of promise to either be /in or to /replace. That would give me 5 backup players right off the bat. In all honesty, I'd actually like it if no one would review it and everyone possible play in it. I will say that I learned a lot from HS Mafia and worked to remove the most swingy elements. (There is no one player who can reassign all roles this time, for example.) I also plan to facilitate a bit of speed by starting with a full night including kills.
I also plan to facilitate a bit of speed by starting with a full night including kills.
Very little of what you said inspired confidence in me, but this bit in particular troubled me. Night 0 with kills means that some of your 30 players will actually sign up then get killed before they have a chance to do anything informed, and the fact that you don't know which only increases the swinginess of the setup. Not liking that part of it at all.
Very little of what you said inspired confidence in me, but this bit in particular troubled me. Night 0 with kills means that some of your 30 players will actually sign up then get killed before they have a chance to do anything informed, and the fact that you don't know which only increases the swinginess of the setup. Not liking that part of it at all.
Personally, I found this to be the most terrifying sentence:
Personally, I found this to be the most terrifying sentence:
There is a reason even experienced hosts like Xyre and zindabad utilize reviewers.
That one would have worried me had he not started off this whole thing by coming in here and asking for a reviewer, and asking again when he didn't get a response the first time. I think the mentality behind it is understandable, but he still understands that he needs a reviewer and is actively looking for one.
I'm all for experimental games when they're labeled as such, but I feel like running a 30 person game that hasn't been reviewed will only disappoint everyone involved. You're going to have a hell of a time with activity issues.
Consider IRC mafia and hosting your game there. Get familiar with the manual modding controls and schedule a time for our whole community to participate. That way no one is largely invested and the game can speed along quickly. Could be huge fun.
I would suggest hunting down veterans who don't really play anymore: Kraj, Axelrod and so on and so forth. I would also advise very heavily against running an unreviewed game, you'll be guaranteed to miss something.
Also, from my experience here and in outside sites, large games are in a crisis, there's simply not enough commited players that can stick in a chaos like those games certainly will evolve into.
My best advice to DK is: if you have too much creativity just create two 16 players games, or reduce your game to at most a 20 players one.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
That one would have worried me had he not started off this whole thing by coming in here and asking for a reviewer, and asking again when he didn't get a response the first time. I think the mentality behind it is understandable, but he still understands that he needs a reviewer and is actively looking for one.
Very much this. The only reason I wish it didn't have to be reviewed is that whoever reviews it can't play it.
There is/are mechanics in place for anyone who happens to be nightkilled N0. I wouldn't leave *any* player with no chance to play, but having a deathless night 0 I feel favors the town too much. Having no night 0 starts the game off too randomly and makes day 1 last forever until someone makes an arbitrary mistake and gets crucified for it.
And yes, I would most definitely attempt to scrape up some of the older players (many of whom played in my last game). I could call it experimental if you like, but there is only 1 or 2 small game mechanics that don't already exist on most mafia role threads.
And just for the record, there are over 70 players currently active in games right now.
Although oddly enough, you just gave me an excellent idea for an experimental setup. Hmmmmm. I'll have to write this up and see if someone will review it.
I understand the reluctance to check over a game that may not even get filled. Can I open a thread in the mafia forum with a poll to see if enough people are interested in playing my setup? If enough people are interested, then I can come back and solicit a reviewer. That way I'm not wasting anyone's time. If this becomes successful, we can make it a quarterly or semi-annual event (Mega-Multiplayer- Mafia).
I'll wait for a response before I open a thread or anything.
Although oddly enough, you just gave me an excellent idea for an experimental setup. Hmmmmm. I'll have to write this up and see if someone will review it.
Sorry for the double post (again). But I wanted to make sure someone saw this post as new.
I understand the reluctance to check over a game that may not even get filled. Can I open a thread in the mafia forum with a poll to see if enough people are interested in playing my setup? If enough people are interested, then I can come back and solicit a reviewer. That way I'm not wasting anyone's time. If this becomes successful, we can make it a quarterly or semi-annual event (Mega-Multiplayer- Mafia).
I'll wait for a response before I open a thread or anything.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
With KCC's mini having been in signups for 4 days and received only 1 player, I think we should drop back to 3 running minis for a time, and run KCC's game once Vampire finishes. I suspect the slight drop in players is due to the league, the imminent CCMVI, it being August and 4 games being in day 1, with another in N1.
As the Autumn rolls in, I suspect demand will pick up again.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
There's simply three extra games rolling, it's to be expected problem filling games for the next months or so.
I really think putting league games as extra games was a mistake. Particular chosen minis, basics, normal, speciality could easily fit league games imho. The way it's now it feels like league games are just bypassing normal procedures and slowing the already slow usual queues. It's particularly sad for players that don't really care for the league but still want to play the usual games.
But that's just ramblings of an old man.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
The League games were meant ONLY to take the place of the PCQ, as the games were basically selected the same way and to possibly revive the PCQ. I propositioned Az to let the League take the FTQ slot, but he disagreed with this, citing that the FTQ was immensely popular and that there would probably be an angry mob involved if we did that.
...and that's how robots have babies! Any questions?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sorry for the double post- I'm also looking for another reviewer for a specialty/ftq game. It does have a game twist/mechanic that is new, and I need some help making sure its balanced.
I too would seek someone willing to review a setup for a specialty-level game for balance purposes, as well as to speak for the people here with regard to whether some of the mechanics would be palatable/enjoyable by the user base here.
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Went to a new shop from a friend's recommendation, DQ'ed for willful violation of CR 100.6b.
Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? I mainly just need someone to look at the mechanic and tell me if I'm missing something. The actual setup is kinda straightforward.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Two and a GIP is what is listed in post 1. Specialties have an additional note that you must have three completed games. Still leaves KoolKoal needing his second game to finish, and needing another on this site - I don't think we have a Full Faith and Credit clause here.
Alright, I've done this. Can I get on the mini hosting list please?
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I would like to nominate myself to the probation list for chronic inattentiveness and being of significantly too low of a skill level to meaningfully play with the other members here. As such, my request for a reviewer for a game I would have liked to run here is also formally withdrawn.
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Former Level 2 Judge (Retired / Renounced)
Went to a new shop from a friend's recommendation, DQ'ed for willful violation of CR 100.6b.
I would like to nominate myself to the probation list for chronic inattentiveness and being of significantly too low of a skill level to meaningfully play with the other members here. As such, my request for a reviewer for a game I would have liked to run here is also formally withdrawn.
As I mentioned in a PM to DS, this is not really the purpose of the probation list, so no action is necessary. I am also talking over the situation with him.
poggydude and sXe were modkilled due to inactivity.
Atogaholic, Dark Shadow, Laset, Niv, and SciSolaris were forcibly replaced.
Arnnaria, Bolly, Dork Knight, and Prime Intellect requested replacement.
With Magical Girl Mafia finishing, we have two open slots. With Ataghan and Eeveelution just starting, I'm happy with staggering new signups over the next few weeks.
Chronologically, a Normal is up next. Is Arcadic hosting, or is it being passed down?
I told Arcadic to post his sign-ups once Eevee's were closed. I also told him that if he didn't get to it soon that I would give you and Toasty the green light.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I told Arcadic to post his sign-ups once Eevee's were closed. I also told him that if he didn't get to it soon that I would give you and Toasty the green light.
We don't mind waiting for a bit. We need some polishing still: wasn't expecting MGM to finish so abruptly <_<
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Struck by inspiration, I have finished a rough draft of my Mini. Unfortunately this inspiration struck in the form of having a different flavor, so it'll be Steins;Gate flavored rather than Teletubbies flavored. I'm in need of a reviewer, anyone want to take a look?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Very little of what you said inspired confidence in me, but this bit in particular troubled me. Night 0 with kills means that some of your 30 players will actually sign up then get killed before they have a chance to do anything informed, and the fact that you don't know which only increases the swinginess of the setup. Not liking that part of it at all.
Personally, I found this to be the most terrifying sentence:
There is a reason even experienced hosts like Xyre and zindabad utilize reviewers.
That one would have worried me had he not started off this whole thing by coming in here and asking for a reviewer, and asking again when he didn't get a response the first time. I think the mentality behind it is understandable, but he still understands that he needs a reviewer and is actively looking for one.
Consider IRC mafia and hosting your game there. Get familiar with the manual modding controls and schedule a time for our whole community to participate. That way no one is largely invested and the game can speed along quickly. Could be huge fun.
Also, from my experience here and in outside sites, large games are in a crisis, there's simply not enough commited players that can stick in a chaos like those games certainly will evolve into.
My best advice to DK is: if you have too much creativity just create two 16 players games, or reduce your game to at most a 20 players one.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Do we even have 35 players in the meta?
And Dork the trend of late has been Minis getting all the love. The larger games have had issues getting filled or staying filled.
The Family
Very much this. The only reason I wish it didn't have to be reviewed is that whoever reviews it can't play it.
There is/are mechanics in place for anyone who happens to be nightkilled N0. I wouldn't leave *any* player with no chance to play, but having a deathless night 0 I feel favors the town too much. Having no night 0 starts the game off too randomly and makes day 1 last forever until someone makes an arbitrary mistake and gets crucified for it.
And yes, I would most definitely attempt to scrape up some of the older players (many of whom played in my last game). I could call it experimental if you like, but there is only 1 or 2 small game mechanics that don't already exist on most mafia role threads.
And just for the record, there are over 70 players currently active in games right now.
Although oddly enough, you just gave me an excellent idea for an experimental setup. Hmmmmm. I'll have to write this up and see if someone will review it.
I understand the reluctance to check over a game that may not even get filled. Can I open a thread in the mafia forum with a poll to see if enough people are interested in playing my setup? If enough people are interested, then I can come back and solicit a reviewer. That way I'm not wasting anyone's time. If this becomes successful, we can make it a quarterly or semi-annual event (Mega-Multiplayer- Mafia).
I'll wait for a response before I open a thread or anything.
I understand the reluctance to check over a game that may not even get filled. Can I open a thread in the mafia forum with a poll to see if enough people are interested in playing my setup? If enough people are interested, then I can come back and solicit a reviewer. That way I'm not wasting anyone's time. If this becomes successful, we can make it a quarterly or semi-annual event (Mega-Multiplayer- Mafia).
I'll wait for a response before I open a thread or anything.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
As the Autumn rolls in, I suspect demand will pick up again.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I really think putting league games as extra games was a mistake. Particular chosen minis, basics, normal, speciality could easily fit league games imho. The way it's now it feels like league games are just bypassing normal procedures and slowing the already slow usual queues. It's particularly sad for players that don't really care for the league but still want to play the usual games.
But that's just ramblings of an old man.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
The Family
Me too
I sense great darkness in the force
LOL
Requested replacement: Freddeh, theatog, ImTehFairy, Pdr_br, MzztrTetris, and ProphetKing
Forced replacement: Gamerz and Prophylaxis
I've got my basic reviewed and my OP written. I can pound out role PMs while sign-ups are open.
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Come join ours!!
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Thanks Kraj for the help.
Went to a new shop from a friend's recommendation, DQ'ed for willful violation of CR 100.6b.
Have played duals? I have PucaPoints for them!
(Credit to DarkNightCavalier)
$tandard: Too poor.
Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Edit: Done.
Edit edit: Will start clearing out old posts to keep everything fresh soon.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Went to a new shop from a friend's recommendation, DQ'ed for willful violation of CR 100.6b.
Have played duals? I have PucaPoints for them!
(Credit to DarkNightCavalier)
$tandard: Too poor.
Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
As I mentioned in a PM to DS, this is not really the purpose of the probation list, so no action is necessary. I am also talking over the situation with him.
You can send me a PM with a QT link.
Replacements:
1. Nis (replacing Wrath_of_DoG)
2. zindabad (replacing Artifice 101)
3. Wheat_Grinder (replacing poggydude)
4. greymon90210 (replacing Arnnaria)
5. Foxlet (replacing MirrorEntity)
6. DRey (replacing pinkys_brain)
All replacements were requested.
Please sign me up to host a Specialty. Thanks.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
Hosting: Vista Mafia
Hosted: Intrigue Mafia (Mini), Seance #43 (Basic), Conflux Mafia (Normal), Goo Mafia (FTQ), Experiment #26 (Basic)
Ongoing/Completed - 0/41
Town/Mafia/SK/Survivor - 30/6/4/1
NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
Eventually I'll need a reviewer, but I'm not quite there yet.
poggydude and sXe were modkilled due to inactivity.
Atogaholic, Dark Shadow, Laset, Niv, and SciSolaris were forcibly replaced.
Arnnaria, Bolly, Dork Knight, and Prime Intellect requested replacement.
I would like to be added to the Specialty list.
smoke_Killah
Chronologically, a Normal is up next. Is Arcadic hosting, or is it being passed down?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
We don't mind waiting for a bit. We need some polishing still: wasn't expecting MGM to finish so abruptly <_<
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Tired of corporate corruption ruining your favorite MtG site?
Come join ours!!
We even have Mafia!!
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Edit: Fixed it to look like it used to before I borked the spoiler tags.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Thanks, I'll send you a PM.
Well then, guess you're not reviewing it.
Zelderex and Knifehand1371 requested replacement and kpaca was replaced due to ban.
Thanks for all the great games of mafia guys, best of luck in the future!
LOL