In no way mean you managed to get yourself a free pass, should you fail to post before Dagger hits Night you are auto-locked as my vote of choice for tomorrow.
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Sir Mu (6) - tezzeret12, Scarius, NightArcher, Anaklusmos, Sepiriel, kill-joy
NightArcher (3) - Sir Mu, InUtterDarkness, pinkys_brian
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It takes 6 to Lynch with 10 alive.
As of this post, Sir Mu has been lynched.
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It ended with a fork.
It was in the dining room, on the glass table, where those of us who could tolerate consuming something in such a situation did.
The rest of us, clung to the counters, the side chairs, the window sills. None mentioned that each in the room sat several paces apart from each others. It wasn't needed to.
There was a low discussion, mutterings, weepings, intense and heated. Occasionally, it would be punctuated by the clinks of cutlery.
Then things got far more violent.
One of us, can't remember who, lunged across the table at Sir Mu, snarling something accusatory. Sir Mu retaliated back, lashing out with the spoon he was using to sip at something. Then somehow, one way or another, there was an all-out brawl on the glass table as more joined in.
The glass table shuddered but held, even as the rolling mass of flesh and screams and hands and feet tumbled onto the floor. Obscenities rang out. Blows were hammered and exchanged. Hairs were ripped. Flesh were clawed. Bloody spittles flew.
Then, all of a sudden, there was silence. And everyone was suddenly in a hurry to disentangle themselves from the mass of bodies. In the end, only Sir Mu laid unmoving on the floor, a pool of red rapidly expanding beneath his head.
There was a fork. And it was rammed straight to its hilt right into Sir Mu's left eye socket.
It grieved me to note that the only regret I felt was that we chose wrongly again.
And the dark red blood began to stream again, mockingly toward the metal bowl.
Sir Mu, Town Vanilla was lynched Day 2.
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It is now Night 2.
There is a deadline of 72 hours for night action submissions. Day 3 will begin after all the night actions have been processed.
...stupid phone. Gonna do a reread, am getting married this week. Please take care in how you vote. By my calc a mislynch = scum win.
I was wondering about that myself. I'm used to 12 player games and seeing 3 scum. Wasn't sure if that was how it was normally here as well.
If this is mislych lose with 8 players. I know because of Gigas there is another confirmed town in this game that would narrow the field to 7 players to look into if the mason wish to out themself.
Also I still feel that Scarius, NightArcher and Anak are my biggest scum reads and nothing so far has changed my thoughts on them since day 2.
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I believe we should do a mass claim - if not, at the very least gigas's mason partner should claim.
Scarius, InUtterDarkness and Wolf with a Bass have been doing some major lurkage this game, and we need them to post. InUtterDarknes has 3 posts by day 3. Scarius has 4. Wolf with a bass has 14 (tied with the mod), and does not contribute much with his posts, many of them are 1-liners or just a question.
We're not going to find scum unless we all participate instead of just the same couple of people posting.
Also if a mass claim in order I believe the player that is the scummiest should claim first thne order it by whom people believe are scummy in order down to whom is town.
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scarius
nightarcher
Anak
utterdarkness
wolf
tezz
killjoy
pinky
There is also the option of popcorn claims. Where everyone agrees to one person claiming then that person states whom they want to claim.
I found that also garners information at times.
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It is Lylo. A massclaim is standard at this point in the game. If people want an order to it, pinkys is okay with me.
Something tells me that at least one scum is hiding among the lurkers that have never posted. They aren't all scum obviously, but I think one is. I need to do more research before I figure out which one I think that is though.
This continuing trend of suspicion on Scarius is fearmongering, like I said yesterday. There's nothing that indicates he's scum besides his low volume of posts. Nothing.
Here's someone who really is scum: NightArcher. He pushed PF on Day 1, then pushed Gigas for backing off PF, then pushed Sir Mu on Day 2. All townies, all the time. Then he appears today to say that the lurkers are scum. This is like watching someone play mislynch bingo. It stops here.
This continuing trend of suspicion on Scarius is fearmongering, like I said yesterday. There's nothing that indicates he's scum besides his low volume of posts. Nothing.
Umm how about the votes he toss's around with no reasoning. Not contributing to scum hunting when he did post. Opportunistic bw vote on Sir Mu yesterday.
How is that nothing?
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That is a blatant lie. If you're going to present reasons why you think I'm scum, at least provide correct ones. This tells me you honestly don't care enough to follow the game or do your research.
(accidently submitted the first one before I was finished)
The only two players I've pushed have been Gigas1 and Sir Mu. Gigas1 shouldn't have been lynched day 1, not with a claim that could be backed up by another player. He was prematurely hammered. Sir Mu was scummy as all hell and refused to cooperate with the rest of the town.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think that what's happened is that the scum have seen me as a perfect patsy and as such they killed off Sepiriel so that they could get a mislynch and win. It's a very smart move.
You were complete idiots yesterday. We were supposed to pressure Mu to get him to answer questions. Not hammer the bastard. Fos Kill-joy Why, why would you hammer him? I had my vote on him in order to try to pressure him into getting his case straight, which you did not allow him to do.
Next (and I'm surprised no one has mentioned this) but it seems a bit coincedental that Scaruis (who has been lurking this whole game) gets attacked by Sep, and then maf kills Sep next day. So vote Scaruis. Looking back I see no other reasons to kill Sep, except she was going after Scaruis.
He wasn't answering. We said he would die if he didn't answer questions. He didn't, so I hammered him. There was no reason for Town not to answer those questions.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think that what's happened is that the scum have seen me as a perfect patsy and as such they killed off Sepiriel so that they could get a mislynch and win. It's a very smart move.
And yet here we are with you not voting, no scum suspects and actively lurking.
Soooooo you going to give me your scum reads?
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Off the top of my head, I'm going to be honest and say I don't have any real suspects at the moment, but that is pending a reread. I'm annoyed at anak for the same reason I was at gigas and sir mu, but I don't have a real read on him yet. My track record isn't all that great and I want to be sure about my vote this time before I make it.
Well this is my first mafia game, so maybe I am lurking because I want to get a proper read upon how this is played before I go doing my thing.
Also I agree with archer, I don't really have a read on anyone at the moment, so I can't really say anything. I will go through and re-read some posts and see what I think.
Well this is my first mafia game, so maybe I am lurking because I want to get a proper read upon how this is played before I go doing my thing.
Also I agree with archer, I don't really have a read on anyone at the moment, so I can't really say anything. I will go through and re-read some posts and see what I think.
So, you have been lurking to get reads on people before you go about things? That I can understand. You have been lurking all game, and have no reads? That doesn't sit as well. I am going to give you some advice, to help you get some reads, people aren't going to come out and claim scum, you have to read more in depth that just surface level or a bit lower. Take notes even, that helps some people greatly.
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Here's someone who really is scum: NightArcher. He pushed PF on Day 1, then pushed Gigas for backing off PF, then pushed Sir Mu on Day 2. All townies, all the time. Then he appears today to say that the lurkers are scum. This is like watching someone play mislynch bingo. It stops here.
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I don't remember NightArcher doing those things, as he says himself. But even so, it isn't really scummy to push all town. As long as he pushed them with solid, town reasoning, then it just makes him wrong. And there is nothing scummy about being wrong about the people you think are scum. If he was being honest and true, but mislynched every time, that doesn't make him scum.
Also think about it from him being scum. He would never just push all town, because scum pushing scum is a great way to gain townie points.
And why aren't the lurkers a good place to start today? We are in Lylo, can't seem to do anything right at this point. They have lurked so much it makes it really hard to read them. I want to change that, and have them get out here. Are you IUD saying that none of the lurkers are scum?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Well this is my first mafia game, so maybe I am lurking because I want to get a proper read upon how this is played before I go doing my thing.
Also I agree with archer, I don't really have a read on anyone at the moment, so I can't really say anything. I will go through and re-read some posts and see what I think.
First you voted for Gigas and disappeared. Then you vote for Sir Mu with really very weak reason and now
NOW you are saying well I don't have a read on anyone.
What was the point of your other two votes? What rhyme, reason or thought did you have to vote for Sir Mu or Gigas at the time you did?
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When I voted for gigas I can't really name what it was but something just didn't feel right with what he was saying within his posts, so I thought that I should get my vote in before I had to leave for a couple of days due to work.
I voted for sir Mu because not only was casting, what I thought at the time was, doubt upon people seemingly at random, and then he wouldn't answer anyone questions,and those questions that he did answer where either a "smart arsed" response or just putting more disinformation out there to get through
Sorry about being relatively inactive the last few days, I haven't had a lot of time to devote to mafia. (busy at work, been in and out of the hospital, issues at home) I should be a little more active in the game starting tomorrow morning though.
I really don't equate NightArcher = town. Neither did Sir Mu.
I still have trouble getting over NightArcher attacking both Gigas and SirMu over their unvote on PinkFlyod but says nothing to Anak about his unvote and has yet to address the guy.
This looks like distancing in my view, which is why they are both on my list.
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This. Also, that doesn't mean that Sir Mu was right just because he was town either. Honestly I gained nothing from him just because he was all over the place, with no apparent rhyme or reason to it.
Guys, IUD is town. Go look back at the game to find out why, but I don't want to spoil it.
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When I voted for gigas I can't really name what it was but something just didn't feel right with what he was saying within his posts, so I thought that I should get my vote in before I had to leave for a couple of days due to work.
I voted for sir Mu because not only was casting, what I thought at the time was, doubt upon people seemingly at random, and then he wouldn't answer anyone questions,and those questions that he did answer where either a "smart arsed" response or just putting more disinformation out there to get through
So you voted Gigas for...something. Simply because you weren't going to be around? How did you convince yourself that he was scum to the point that you wanted to leave a vote behind, but can't tell us remotely what that scummy thing was? Then your reasoning for Sir Mu was nothing beyond what anyone else said.
Pseudo-vote Scarius (got to be careful with votes in Lylo)
And I think, (unless I'm wrong NightArcher), that the reason that he didn't go after Ank was because Pinkflyod went uncc'ed, and another wagon had already been started on Gigas, so it was pointless. He already said what he was going to say, and then new events made it irrelevant.
He did not go over everyone. He called kill-joy town. He joked about the hat. He called you town but questioned you. That is not = everyone.
I don't know how new events make it irrelevant. Anak unvoted a player that was uncc'ed as well. He didn't call him out and never attacked him on that issue but attacked both Sir Mu and Gigas. So I need to understand how it was irrelevant.
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@Tezz: I think NightArcher should be defending himself because I just looked at Gigas and Anak's comments and I don't see that as sound reasoning
Gigas unvoted and said if there was an investigation role they should CC.
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If he has no mason partner that will show through soon enough. And the speed of that wagon concerns me greatly.
Gigas claimed and the wait I think was about 5 post later (give or take with this unvote).
By the way it was Anak that put Gigas at L-1 so the concern of the wagon being speedy increases my scum read on Anak even more.
Did you know when you placed your vote Anak what the vote count was? I was the only vote after yours so when did the speed concern you?
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Oh, I'm sorry, were you sad RVS was over? Scum.
You're kidding with the vote, right? Your reasoning here is completely wrong. And if you notice, kill-joy and myself were also taking it a bit to seriously. Actually, all of us were. That's why he's dead. But I don't see why you jumped on this wagon at all.
I like how you try to make it something "all of us" did. I didn't. I didn't go near Sir Mu because I felt he was town throughout the entire game.
This whole post is a bunch of random, and hypocritical reasoning. You start defending Sir Mu, then go off to attack him again. Then why the unvote if you're just planning to revote again? This move here comes off as the most scummy of them all. You're trying to back down to appear town, but still want to kill him because you know he's innocent.
Can you identify the so-called hypocritical reasoning there?
I never attacked Sir Mu in that post and I can't believe you would say that. I questioned the validity of saying "well, if this guy is town, then we lynch this other one", etc. We have to take the game one day and one night at a time.
As for "backing off to appear town", I think I was pretty clear as to why I unvoted. I believed pinkfloyd was mafia, but didn't like the too-rapid progression of votes while players still hadn't commented, so I unvoted.
Okay, this post is just off. Protecting Scaruis, and then defending the players who seems scummiest... weird. And then your reason for your NightArcher vote is dumb. Yes, of course NightArcher tried to back Gigas off Pinky because he didn't want our UNCCED TOWN INVESTIGATIVE ROLE TO GET LYNCHED!
I can't tell if you have deliberately or unintentionally misinterpreted me, but my vote on NA is not based on him trying to get Gigas to back off pinkfloyd, because that didn't happen.
It is based on how NA attempted to try to get Gigas lynched (and succeeded) because of how willing Gigas was to unvote our town investigative role after he claimed.
Also, just lecturing is fine with me. But if you insist I expand my theories, sure. Lets begin ignoring the self-referenced backtrack from gigas.
1. Sir Mu & Gigas jokingly propose a quicklynch.
2. Gigas likes lying to the town with fake-claims
3. When pinkfloyd claims a power role, gigas and sir mu immediately take this statement as fact and back off. Townies should not take any claims as statements of fact, especially informational roles. Once an informational role is claimed, it's essentially useless. Mafia are very likely to kill informational roles at the first opportunity, before their information can be shared. Backing off of someone from a claim, especially an informational claim is craplogic.
4. Sir Mu & Gigas have been causing confusion in the town with their 'jokes'. I hate it when people intentionally create a big stink at the beginning of the game that doesn't contain info other than possible gut reads.
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Look at point #3. What an utter load of nonsense. NA first tries to say that townies should disbelieve any claims. Yeah, in an advanced game, maybe, but not in a basic where towns generally have only 3 power roles.
Then he tries to say that mafia would be the most likely to stop caring about lynching an informational role, since they become useless once they claim and can be nightkilled promptly.
Um, what planet are you from? Mafia would be most likely to try to get an informational role lynched, so they can spend their night killing someone else. They would be extremely unlikely to want a claimed informational role to go to night alive, because then a doctor might be able to protect that informational role.
So really, NA called Gigas scum for doing what townies should do in the situation he encountered, that is, unvote the claimed power role.
And finally, Gigas was my mason partner, so I knew damn well he was town from the very start and that wagon was rotten from the beginning, so NA looks even more scummy for pushing it. Not to mention that the other player he called scum in that post, Sir Mu, was lynched as town the next day.
Basically, some of you have been letting NA call the shots and it has resulted in two extremely bad mislynches. That stops now.
Thank God I am not the only person finding Night Archer scummy in this game. I started to think I was lossing my freeking head here with the defense from Tezz.
I would like to add to UtterDarkness case against NA that after pushing 2 town lynches he has not stated another scum suspects and pointing out the lurkers, when he barely has said much himself.
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Yeah I have read through the game, and I am beginning to think that night archer is a bit scummy, he has pushed for both of the previous lynchs, be has also been pretty reflective with his answers. Fos nightarcher
due to iud's recent helpfulness I am going to consider him obvtown.
short scum list then bed, reasoning tomorrow after work:
scum a) scarius - lurker extraordinaire.
scum b) night archer - prolly would have jumped on an iud wagon until he was dead, but recent events have changed that I'd bet. has pushed on two mislynches with a good amount of resolve. does not show remorse for his actions, which is prolly why I do not see him as scum numero uno. prolly believes in his convictions.
scum c) possibly anak possibly kill-joy. im sold on a and b but not c yet.
ok bed time ya'll...actually have a decent list up later. Pro-tip, look for inconsistent reads later (tip to myself as well)
Scarius is my top scum choice atm. He's been on both of the Town wagons, and was basically the first on each. He has also been lurky and has been playing the noob card HARD. Most people, when noobs (I only recently renounced that description from myself) don't play the noob card that hard. Not that I've seen anyway. Seems like he's trying to excuse his lack of posts with it.
NightArcher is my second choice here. Reasons include that he was also on both wagons, as well as saying that someone claiming an informational PR was useless. This feels like he was trying to set a lynch up for scum today, assuming they decided not to NK him.
Not quite sure about the third.
I can say I think IUD is town because of how long he has had his vote on NA, and if they were scumbuddies, I don't believe his vote would have been on him for so long.
Tezz is town because we've been thinking along the same lines from day 1. He's full of townie motives in my eyes.
Pinky is town, because he just feels town to me. Nothing he's done has sent up any scum alarms.
Anak seems town partially because of his post 460 with his analysis of IUD, who I already said I beleive is town
Unless I miscounted that leaves WWAB, which means he's scum by process of elimination.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm leaning more NightArcher recently and if NightArcher flips scum like I suspect I would be leaning heavily on Anak do to the interaction from NightArcher whom ignored Anak after the day 1 lynch. He continues to ignore him and that bothers me more.
I have a hard time believing someone reading the game at this point can not have a view or a statement on people in the game like Scarius who pretty much looks like he's takign what others say and using it. Tezz seems to think he's just newb but I'm more tougher and suspect newb scum to be lurksome.
The only person I have no read on is Wolf.
If I were to place a vote right this second and feel good about it would be NightArcher.
In fact
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I'm sorry I haven't posted in the last couple of days but my life got turned upside down (I got diagnosed with diabetes) and I've barely had time to check my inbox much less sit down to do anything mafia related. Also, I'm a guy.
I'd like to point out that I said you shouldn't believe a claim from someone you think is scum, which is true by definition unless you have a real reason to believe it. And yes, you guys are right, I didn't think about the idea that lynching the info role frees the mafia up to kill whomever they want, I was thinking about every time I've seen an info role claimed they end up dead the next day. Especially in a game with no doctor, I just figured it was inevitable.
Also, a lot of you are saying that a reason that I'm scum is I've only voted for townies? I'm sorry, do you guys have magical insight into the roles that everybody has? There was also a post earlier that I can't find at the moment about the WIFOMiness of mafia only pushing town.
@Pinky If you lynch me the game ends so I don't see how you would go after ank either way tomorrow. I haven't really gone after ank because I didn't realize until late day2 that he had done that, and after that I've been kind of wary because I've driven 2 people to a mislynch, so I wanted to do a more indepth read and hadn't done it yet. At this point my reason for going after him at all dried up.
NA: For me it's not just the fact you were on both town lyches or even pushing for those lynches, it's that you (1) have no other suspects (2) haven't said much about anyone else in the game and here it is a possible MyLo and you are calling out lurkers which you may as well look in the mirror as your comments have been infrequent.
I recall you are to be the person with the mafia experience in this game but you haven't really pushed anything and your game play reads more under the radar, which is usually scummy in my view.
*On a personal level I'm sorry you were diagnosed with diabetes. My husband is diabetic. It's not a horrible life style but if it's not managed and you don't watch your weight (don't know how much you weigh just spouting facts about diabetes). It can cause more problems for you, in regards to celulitius in the legs.
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The latter half of day 1 and all of day 2 I was really active. I hadn't noticed the thread had started until 150 posts in 2 physical days. Day 3 I called out lurkers before I dropped off of the site for a while because of an actual irl complication. With the exception of what happened here day 3, I hadn't been lurking. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but we need lurking players to post too (that means you, scarius).
At a cursory glance my top suspect is scarius with his wagon jumping onto what looks like easy lynches while only regurgitating info on that player without providing anything new. I still need to do a reread, which I probably won't have time to do until sunday. I'm not placing a vote on scarius until I reread and until he actually comes back and says something about the accusations on him.
@NA: I do agree that day 2 you were more active, but it seems in my view that activity was based on Sir Mu calling you out and questioning you. As for Day 1 I recall feeling like I had to call you out in order to gather your reads on the players in the game.
I agree that Scarius needs to add more to this game. I would not mind hearing Wolf and Anak's thoughts either.
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In regards to your assumption that I have experience in this game, I've only completed 2 games of mafia on this site. I played in a 3rd and 4th, but replaced out of one, and the other one died due to the mod disappearing without giving anyone else the game setup in a really advanced game.
Okay I thought about this for a few moments. I thougth about the time I took a break from Mafia and how horrible my reads where and how bad things turned around on me.
This is what I'm going to do. The following people need to make a scum list with reason as to why those players are scummy.
YOU HAVE 4 DAYS FROM THIS POST TO DO THE ABOVE.
Anyone that fails to comply, gives me an excuse or replaces out I will take the most please in hanging your scummy ass in a sling.
The players whom need to do this are:
Scarius
NightArcher
Anak
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In regards to your assumption that I have experience in this game, I've only completed 2 games of mafia on this site. I played in a 3rd and 4th, but replaced out of one, and the other one died due to the mod disappearing without giving anyone else the game setup in a really advanced game.
What game did the mod disappear in? Is it still on this site?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
In no way mean you managed to get yourself a free pass, should you fail to post before Dagger hits Night you are auto-locked as my vote of choice for tomorrow.
Sir Mu (6) - tezzeret12, Scarius, NightArcher, Anaklusmos, Sepiriel, kill-joy
NightArcher (3) - Sir Mu, InUtterDarkness, pinkys_brian
pinkys_brian (1) - Wolf with a Bass
It takes 6 to Lynch with 10 alive.
As of this post, Sir Mu has been lynched.
~~~
It ended with a fork.
It was in the dining room, on the glass table, where those of us who could tolerate consuming something in such a situation did.
The rest of us, clung to the counters, the side chairs, the window sills. None mentioned that each in the room sat several paces apart from each others. It wasn't needed to.
There was a low discussion, mutterings, weepings, intense and heated. Occasionally, it would be punctuated by the clinks of cutlery.
Then things got far more violent.
One of us, can't remember who, lunged across the table at Sir Mu, snarling something accusatory. Sir Mu retaliated back, lashing out with the spoon he was using to sip at something. Then somehow, one way or another, there was an all-out brawl on the glass table as more joined in.
The glass table shuddered but held, even as the rolling mass of flesh and screams and hands and feet tumbled onto the floor. Obscenities rang out. Blows were hammered and exchanged. Hairs were ripped. Flesh were clawed. Bloody spittles flew.
Then, all of a sudden, there was silence. And everyone was suddenly in a hurry to disentangle themselves from the mass of bodies. In the end, only Sir Mu laid unmoving on the floor, a pool of red rapidly expanding beneath his head.
There was a fork. And it was rammed straight to its hilt right into Sir Mu's left eye socket.
It grieved me to note that the only regret I felt was that we chose wrongly again.
And the dark red blood began to stream again, mockingly toward the metal bowl.
Sir Mu, Town Vanilla was lynched Day 2.
~~~
It is now Night 2.
There is a deadline of 72 hours for night action submissions. Day 3 will begin after all the night actions have been processed.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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And another had fallen victim to it.
I winced at the sight before me.
Bile rose up from my throat.
Never had death by drowning been so poetic.
Minutes ago, there was a scream.
All of us were startled of course.
We had been watching carefully at that infernal metal bowl.
It did not move, and yet it somehow was mocking us.
There was no stream of blood flowing into the room yet.
No indication whatsoever something had occurred.
But yes, there was a scream.
It was followed by a thump.
Rushing to the scene, I realized that the person who screamed was not the victim.
No, it was the person who had fainted.
For the sight before us was horrifying.
In the bathroom, there was a bloated corpse.
It was previously known as Sepiriel.
Now it was just another slab of meat.
And there was a water hose forced down its throat and into its gullet.
It was still turned on at full force.
The water which was leaking out from every possible orifice was diluted with red.
And then they began to stream.
Slowly, the trail of red flowed toward the metal bowl.
Finally, then finally, I vomited.
Sepiriel, Town Vanilla was killed Night 2.
~~~
It is now Day 3.
It takes 5 to kill with 8 alive.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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Town/Mafia/SK/Survivor - 30/6/4/1
NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
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13/2/1
I was wondering about that myself. I'm used to 12 player games and seeing 3 scum. Wasn't sure if that was how it was normally here as well.
If this is mislych lose with 8 players. I know because of Gigas there is another confirmed town in this game that would narrow the field to 7 players to look into if the mason wish to out themself.
Also I still feel that Scarius, NightArcher and Anak are my biggest scum reads and nothing so far has changed my thoughts on them since day 2.
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I believe we should do a mass claim - if not, at the very least gigas's mason partner should claim.
Scarius, InUtterDarkness and Wolf with a Bass have been doing some major lurkage this game, and we need them to post. InUtterDarknes has 3 posts by day 3. Scarius has 4. Wolf with a bass has 14 (tied with the mod), and does not contribute much with his posts, many of them are 1-liners or just a question.
We're not going to find scum unless we all participate instead of just the same couple of people posting.
Also if a mass claim in order I believe the player that is the scummiest should claim first thne order it by whom people believe are scummy in order down to whom is town.
example:
claims:
scarius
nightarcher
Anak
utterdarkness
wolf
tezz
killjoy
pinky
There is also the option of popcorn claims. Where everyone agrees to one person claiming then that person states whom they want to claim.
I found that also garners information at times.
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Something tells me that at least one scum is hiding among the lurkers that have never posted. They aren't all scum obviously, but I think one is. I need to do more research before I figure out which one I think that is though.
Here's someone who really is scum: NightArcher. He pushed PF on Day 1, then pushed Gigas for backing off PF, then pushed Sir Mu on Day 2. All townies, all the time. Then he appears today to say that the lurkers are scum. This is like watching someone play mislynch bingo. It stops here.
vote: NightArcher
Umm how about the votes he toss's around with no reasoning. Not contributing to scum hunting when he did post. Opportunistic bw vote on Sir Mu yesterday.
How is that nothing?
Fos: Darkness
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That is a blatant lie. If you're going to present reasons why you think I'm scum, at least provide correct ones. This tells me you honestly don't care enough to follow the game or do your research.
The only two players I've pushed have been Gigas1 and Sir Mu. Gigas1 shouldn't have been lynched day 1, not with a claim that could be backed up by another player. He was prematurely hammered. Sir Mu was scummy as all hell and refused to cooperate with the rest of the town.
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Sorry dude tons of hw.
He wasn't answering. We said he would die if he didn't answer questions. He didn't, so I hammered him. There was no reason for Town not to answer those questions.
And yet here we are with you not voting, no scum suspects and actively lurking.
Soooooo you going to give me your scum reads?
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Also I agree with archer, I don't really have a read on anyone at the moment, so I can't really say anything. I will go through and re-read some posts and see what I think.
So, you have been lurking to get reads on people before you go about things? That I can understand. You have been lurking all game, and have no reads? That doesn't sit as well. I am going to give you some advice, to help you get some reads, people aren't going to come out and claim scum, you have to read more in depth that just surface level or a bit lower. Take notes even, that helps some people greatly.
I don't remember NightArcher doing those things, as he says himself. But even so, it isn't really scummy to push all town. As long as he pushed them with solid, town reasoning, then it just makes him wrong. And there is nothing scummy about being wrong about the people you think are scum. If he was being honest and true, but mislynched every time, that doesn't make him scum.
Also think about it from him being scum. He would never just push all town, because scum pushing scum is a great way to gain townie points.
And why aren't the lurkers a good place to start today? We are in Lylo, can't seem to do anything right at this point. They have lurked so much it makes it really hard to read them. I want to change that, and have them get out here. Are you IUD saying that none of the lurkers are scum?
Votecount
NightArcher (1) - InUtterDarkness
Scarius (1) - tezzeret12
It takes 5 to Lynch with 8 alive.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
So why am I 3rd/4th on your list? I don't think you've ever said anything about me except how town I was early on?
First you voted for Gigas and disappeared. Then you vote for Sir Mu with really very weak reason and now
NOW you are saying well I don't have a read on anyone.
What was the point of your other two votes? What rhyme, reason or thought did you have to vote for Sir Mu or Gigas at the time you did?
MFOS: Scarius
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I voted for sir Mu because not only was casting, what I thought at the time was, doubt upon people seemingly at random, and then he wouldn't answer anyone questions,and those questions that he did answer where either a "smart arsed" response or just putting more disinformation out there to get through
Are you thinking VI on this?
All the vague I think, I felt.......it's hard for me personally what to believe.
I need to think about it.
In the meantime Scarius. Answer the following:
Have you read the game in full at this point?
If not do so and then tell me whom you read as scum and why?
I'm really tired of the I don't know who is scum comments at this point.
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I still have trouble getting over NightArcher attacking both Gigas and SirMu over their unvote on PinkFlyod but says nothing to Anak about his unvote and has yet to address the guy.
This looks like distancing in my view, which is why they are both on my list.
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This. Also, that doesn't mean that Sir Mu was right just because he was town either. Honestly I gained nothing from him just because he was all over the place, with no apparent rhyme or reason to it.
Guys, IUD is town. Go look back at the game to find out why, but I don't want to spoil it.
So you voted Gigas for...something. Simply because you weren't going to be around? How did you convince yourself that he was scum to the point that you wanted to leave a vote behind, but can't tell us remotely what that scummy thing was? Then your reasoning for Sir Mu was nothing beyond what anyone else said.
Pseudo-vote Scarius (got to be careful with votes in Lylo)
He did not go over everyone. He called kill-joy town. He joked about the hat. He called you town but questioned you. That is not = everyone.
I don't know how new events make it irrelevant. Anak unvoted a player that was uncc'ed as well. He didn't call him out and never attacked him on that issue but attacked both Sir Mu and Gigas. So I need to understand how it was irrelevant.
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Gigas unvoted and said if there was an investigation role they should CC.
Gigas claimed and the wait I think was about 5 post later (give or take with this unvote).
By the way it was Anak that put Gigas at L-1 so the concern of the wagon being speedy increases my scum read on Anak even more.
Did you know when you placed your vote Anak what the vote count was? I was the only vote after yours so when did the speed concern you?
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I like how you try to make it something "all of us" did. I didn't. I didn't go near Sir Mu because I felt he was town throughout the entire game.
Can you identify the so-called hypocritical reasoning there?
I never attacked Sir Mu in that post and I can't believe you would say that. I questioned the validity of saying "well, if this guy is town, then we lynch this other one", etc. We have to take the game one day and one night at a time.
As for "backing off to appear town", I think I was pretty clear as to why I unvoted. I believed pinkfloyd was mafia, but didn't like the too-rapid progression of votes while players still hadn't commented, so I unvoted.
I can't tell if you have deliberately or unintentionally misinterpreted me, but my vote on NA is not based on him trying to get Gigas to back off pinkfloyd, because that didn't happen.
It is based on how NA attempted to try to get Gigas lynched (and succeeded) because of how willing Gigas was to unvote our town investigative role after he claimed.
Let's take a look:
Look at point #3. What an utter load of nonsense. NA first tries to say that townies should disbelieve any claims. Yeah, in an advanced game, maybe, but not in a basic where towns generally have only 3 power roles.
Then he tries to say that mafia would be the most likely to stop caring about lynching an informational role, since they become useless once they claim and can be nightkilled promptly.
Um, what planet are you from? Mafia would be most likely to try to get an informational role lynched, so they can spend their night killing someone else. They would be extremely unlikely to want a claimed informational role to go to night alive, because then a doctor might be able to protect that informational role.
So really, NA called Gigas scum for doing what townies should do in the situation he encountered, that is, unvote the claimed power role.
And finally, Gigas was my mason partner, so I knew damn well he was town from the very start and that wagon was rotten from the beginning, so NA looks even more scummy for pushing it. Not to mention that the other player he called scum in that post, Sir Mu, was lynched as town the next day.
Basically, some of you have been letting NA call the shots and it has resulted in two extremely bad mislynches. That stops now.
I would like to add to UtterDarkness case against NA that after pushing 2 town lynches he has not stated another scum suspects and pointing out the lurkers, when he barely has said much himself.
FOS: NA
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Fos nightarcher
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interesting read the last few posts have been.
due to iud's recent helpfulness I am going to consider him obvtown.
short scum list then bed, reasoning tomorrow after work:
scum a) scarius - lurker extraordinaire.
scum b) night archer - prolly would have jumped on an iud wagon until he was dead, but recent events have changed that I'd bet. has pushed on two mislynches with a good amount of resolve. does not show remorse for his actions, which is prolly why I do not see him as scum numero uno. prolly believes in his convictions.
scum c) possibly anak possibly kill-joy. im sold on a and b but not c yet.
ok bed time ya'll...actually have a decent list up later. Pro-tip, look for inconsistent reads later (tip to myself as well)
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13/2/1
Scarius is my top scum choice atm. He's been on both of the Town wagons, and was basically the first on each. He has also been lurky and has been playing the noob card HARD. Most people, when noobs (I only recently renounced that description from myself) don't play the noob card that hard. Not that I've seen anyway. Seems like he's trying to excuse his lack of posts with it.
NightArcher is my second choice here. Reasons include that he was also on both wagons, as well as saying that someone claiming an informational PR was useless. This feels like he was trying to set a lynch up for scum today, assuming they decided not to NK him.
Not quite sure about the third.
I can say I think IUD is town because of how long he has had his vote on NA, and if they were scumbuddies, I don't believe his vote would have been on him for so long.
Tezz is town because we've been thinking along the same lines from day 1. He's full of townie motives in my eyes.
Pinky is town, because he just feels town to me. Nothing he's done has sent up any scum alarms.
Anak seems town partially because of his post 460 with his analysis of IUD, who I already said I beleive is town
Unless I miscounted that leaves WWAB, which means he's scum by process of elimination.
However, before we decide on anything:
Pinky: scum/town list please?
Kill-joy
Tezz
InUtterDarkness
Scum list:
Scarius
NightArcher
Anak
I'm leaning more NightArcher recently and if NightArcher flips scum like I suspect I would be leaning heavily on Anak do to the interaction from NightArcher whom ignored Anak after the day 1 lynch. He continues to ignore him and that bothers me more.
I have a hard time believing someone reading the game at this point can not have a view or a statement on people in the game like Scarius who pretty much looks like he's takign what others say and using it. Tezz seems to think he's just newb but I'm more tougher and suspect newb scum to be lurksome.
The only person I have no read on is Wolf.
If I were to place a vote right this second and feel good about it would be NightArcher.
In fact
vote: NightArcher
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I'd like to point out that I said you shouldn't believe a claim from someone you think is scum, which is true by definition unless you have a real reason to believe it. And yes, you guys are right, I didn't think about the idea that lynching the info role frees the mafia up to kill whomever they want, I was thinking about every time I've seen an info role claimed they end up dead the next day. Especially in a game with no doctor, I just figured it was inevitable.
Also, a lot of you are saying that a reason that I'm scum is I've only voted for townies? I'm sorry, do you guys have magical insight into the roles that everybody has? There was also a post earlier that I can't find at the moment about the WIFOMiness of mafia only pushing town.
@Pinky If you lynch me the game ends so I don't see how you would go after ank either way tomorrow. I haven't really gone after ank because I didn't realize until late day2 that he had done that, and after that I've been kind of wary because I've driven 2 people to a mislynch, so I wanted to do a more indepth read and hadn't done it yet. At this point my reason for going after him at all dried up.
I recall you are to be the person with the mafia experience in this game but you haven't really pushed anything and your game play reads more under the radar, which is usually scummy in my view.
*On a personal level I'm sorry you were diagnosed with diabetes. My husband is diabetic. It's not a horrible life style but if it's not managed and you don't watch your weight (don't know how much you weigh just spouting facts about diabetes). It can cause more problems for you, in regards to celulitius in the legs.
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At a cursory glance my top suspect is scarius with his wagon jumping onto what looks like easy lynches while only regurgitating info on that player without providing anything new. I still need to do a reread, which I probably won't have time to do until sunday. I'm not placing a vote on scarius until I reread and until he actually comes back and says something about the accusations on him.
I agree that Scarius needs to add more to this game. I would not mind hearing Wolf and Anak's thoughts either.
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Those were all mostly 2 years ago as well.
This is what I'm going to do. The following people need to make a scum list with reason as to why those players are scummy.
YOU HAVE 4 DAYS FROM THIS POST TO DO THE ABOVE.
Anyone that fails to comply, gives me an excuse or replaces out I will take the most please in hanging your scummy ass in a sling.
The players whom need to do this are:
Scarius
NightArcher
Anak
Unvote:
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What game did the mod disappear in? Is it still on this site?
Just out of curiosity.
I think that game was Brittania Mafia, but I could be wrong on that.
Don't worry pinky you will get your list, in the morning. Sorry, sleep comes first.