MTG Salvation

Quote from PerfectHandMagic »

im really disappointed no one but me used the exile zone as a resource.

I did try a couple of angles with this, but couldn't find anything that wasn't extremely clunky. Riftsweeper needed heavy support to use it as part of an engine rather than just to set up hideaway, and Mirror of Fate is really slow by PHM standards (and again, requires a ton of support if you want it to be more than a one shot effect.)

Tradewinds ta

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8: 6-0: Bloom -> Tradewinds bounces Bolas, then Sneak wins.

You have to Tradewinds a permanent of your own. That's gonna be a land. (If you Eureka'd out Chancellor, Nicol stole it; if you Eureka's out Sneak, Nicol killed it; if you Eureka'd out both, Nicol killed Sneak, which kills your combo.) Doing so sets you a turn back. Which is just enough time for me to get in a lethal attack.

You're right; I didn't pay attention to the fact that your hand win t3. I've updated my original post.

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9: 3-3: When I play first, I have t2 Sneak-Emrakul, which SeeNamed Person can't stop. When I play second, things are more complicated. SeeNamedPerson casts t1 Exploration (exiling Infernal Harvest), and then I cast t1 Summer Bloom (exiling Chancellor). SeeNamedPerson ends t2 with Plains, 2x Island, and Forest on the battlefield, then casts Containment Priest on my t2 upkeep (exiling Denial). Priest would kill me the turn before I could hardcast Emrakul, so I bounce it with Tradewinds (exiling Sneak Attack). SeeNamedPerson casts t4 Karn (exiling Priest), then Thwarts my Thwart and wins.

You're giving me a 7th card in hand to exile for Thwart, there. (I was assuming we have to exile and bounce at the same time, and so that doesn't work. Does it?)

I'm also not sure why you have me casting Containment Priest proactively before I've bounced Islands. I think I wait to play it in response to Sneak Attack activation, making you waste a card in hand and mana.

That said, I can cast Karn (with containment/denial back-up) on turn 5, keeping up Thwart to bounce islands for fuel should you tradewinds, and containment priest. I think that ultimating Karn is a faster win condition, and I think I still win that way.

As noted by HerziQuerzi, costs can be paid in any order.
The reason I had you cast Priest proactively is because your alternatives are Priest in response to casting Sneak (if Sneak actually resolves, then I can activate Sneak in response to Priest to at least rebuy Bloom) + Denial or Denial + Thwart, and I think of Denial as your second-worst card in the matchup (following Infernal Harvest). That said, the line of Forest, Exploration, Island, Island, Island, Thwart, Denial is cleaner.

WhammeWhamme: Chancellor of the Tangle / Chancellor of the Tangle / Azusa, Lost but Seeking / Thwart / Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite / Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

vs. 01 Artscrafter: Turn 1 Azusa with Thwart backup can't be killed, Emrakul FTW. 6-0
vs. 02 bubblecat2: OTP, fast... Chancellor? OTD, I can't see a win. Head hurts. 3-3?
vs. 03 Feyd_Ruin: Turn 1 Azusa -> Emrakul. 6-0
vs. 04 HerziQuerzi: Turn 1 Azusa -> Turn 5 Emrakul. 6-0
vs. 05 Mogg: OTP, I counter Summer Bloom and can RACE Sneaky Emrakul. 3-3
vs. 06 nerdyjoe: Azusa can't be Pathed until he has Arcane Denial backup (thwart), so big guys stomp. 6-0
vs. 07 Piato: If he Eurakas, he loses. 6-0
vs. 08 Rush_Clasic: ...wow, I think I can't handle City/Eureka. 0-6
vs. 09 SeeNamedPerson: OTP, Azusa and counter exploration FTW. 3-3
vs. 10 SwapGo Tron: Plan "B" of Chancellor + Elesh Norn seems solid here. 6-0
vs. 11 tidalslimshady: Azusa/Emrakul requires Skinrender, but Lifeforce/Skinrender/anything loses to Norn. 6-0
vs. 12 Tomsloger: OTP, counter Riftsweeper. 3-3

6 3 6 6 3 6 6 0 3 6 6 3

HerziQuerzi's Used Me For Land Development
Mental Misstep / Spell Snare / Restore Balance / Trade Routes / Reality Strobe / Molten Vortex


Chancellor of the Tangle shenanigans abound, dodging my early game focused counter spells.

X | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 | PT
4 | 0 2 0 X 0 0 0 0 0 6 6 3 0 | 16

X| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3
1| X 6 0 6 0 2 0 0 6 6 2 6 0 | 34 | 283
2| 0 X 0 2 0 0 3 3 0 4 2 0 3 | 14 | 117
3| 6 6 X 6 0 0 0 0 0 6 6 0 0 | 30 | 250
4| 0 2 0 X 0 0 0 0 0 6 6 3 0 | 16 | 133
5| 6 6 6 6 X 6 6 3 3 6 6 6 3 | 60 | 500
6| 2 6 6 6 0 X 6 6 6 6 6 0 0 | 50 | 417
7| 6 3 6 6 0 0 X 6 6 6 6 0 0 | 42 | 350
8| 6 3 6 6 3 0 0 X 6 6 6 0 6 | 46 | 383
9| 0 6 6 6 3 0 0 0 X 6 6 0 3 | 34 | 283
0| 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 0 3 0 | 03 | 25
1| 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 X 0 0 | 10 | 83
2| 0 6 6 3 0 6 6 6 6 3 6 X 3 | 48 | 400
3| 6 3 6 6 3 6 6 0 3 6 6 3 X | 50 | 417

2-3: 0-6: Decree outraces Pinnacle w/ counter protection for Dack. Rider loses to Decree recursion, and bb2 doesn't have enough green cards for Rider + Pinnacle.

2-6: 0-6: Pte > Rider, Thrun > Pinnacle.

2-9: 0-6: bb2 devotes too many resources to forcing Dack onto the battlefield, and Priest wins.

2-11: 2-2: tnn can't outrace rider, but it can block.

2-12: 0-6: t2 emrakul.

3-6: 0-6: t1 tokens + t2 thrun vs. t1 elixir + t4 floodbringer + deprive. Thrun + tokens are too fast; Feyd needs Floodbring to survive for Elixir/Decree recursion.

3-9: 0-6: t4 Karn + Thwart / t5 Karn + Thwart + Denial.

3-11: 6-0: tnn + leylines + denial / dack loses to deprive + floodbringer + infinite elixir life gain.

3-12: 0-6: t2 emrakul.

6-9: 6-0: t2 thrun.

6-11: 6-0: tokens + Thrun + Denial + Chancellor > Leyline + tnn + Denial.

6-12: 0-6: t2 emrakul.

9-11: 6-0: t4 Karn + Denial / Priest to chump Skinrender.

9-12: 0-6: t2 emrakul.

11-12: 0-6: t2 emrakul.

Mogg wins.

piato wins PHML 44 with an average score of 436!