Its essentially a 1UU equivalent a 1RR enchantment removal card. . . that draws you a card. Way to strong.
Card drawing is incredibly strong, you know how you can tell? If this card drew the opponent a card but not you, would you play it?
How bout if it gave them 1 more card than you? See? It becomes bad.
Little jaces power almost never gets played.
so yeah. Its bent. ... and as a common, limited good times.
Glamis, that's an extra mana. White's not supposed to be as good (at all!) at countering spells as blue. I don't think anyone would consider giving white Counterspell in anything resembling its original form, so giving them a Remand variant is really close to something no one would even consider doing.
Unlike Mana Tithe, Lapse of Certainty is a hard counter, it just gives them the card back in the future. Also note that blue could theoretically mill away the countered spell (or name it for a different spell or effect) while white would not do either of those things.
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm WAY TOO GOOD!! sending something back to the deck is essentially removing it... they arent undoing a draw, they lost tempo, AND card advantage. this card is ridiculous. can tripping off of removal is broke, and its an instant? wtf!!! this is years beyond terminate, has no draw backs whatsoever i mean really? who was smoking crack and playing blue white control and thought "of this would help my deck out" and suggested this, its ridiculous. never ever ever ever toooooooo good
That the comparison to Remand has been made should tell you just how broken this card is. There is a reason blue doesn't get spells like Remand these days- that card was much too strong for control. This card is even stronger, especially in the current T2 meta that is almost entirely creature based. This card would probably see play even in extended and legacy. If WotC printed this alongside JtMS, they might as well just get rid of black, red, green and white.
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Even as an uncommon, this would wreck. And if this were printed as a rare or mythic, its price would be through the roof. Which color would you put this in- the cantrip effect on this card is too strong for white CA and blue isn't able to bury creatures in the deck. i think the judging team just saw a card they really wished they could play with. Yes, it is a great concept and the flavor text is some of the best ever, but this card is incredibly overpowered
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I just want to reiterate again that bounce is in no way similar to shuffling into the library, because no matter what it costs you a card to get the shuffled card back (a draw step). Excommunicate could trick you here because it looks like just tempo from a bounce spell, but even Excommunicate is card advantage. You're replacing your opponent's draw step with getting their creature back.
So don't minimize the fact that this is a board-interactive instant that always creates +2 card advantage just because in the worst case they can get their guy back within the timeframe of the match.
So our closest comp for this card is to find another 3 mana instant that interacted with the board and unconditionally generated +2 CA. Afflict is obviously small enough to count as conditional. Electrolyze is small removal even if it can general +3 in ideal circumstances. You can find things like Smash that do this effect at 3 mana for what is typically a 'less valuable' permanent type. You're really looking at going back to something like Oddysey or Invasion for cards like Exclude, Slay, or Execute to find something at all comparable. But all of those cards are in their respective ways more narrow that this card.
I look at this and i look at oblation. Being restricted to a creature as opposed to a nonland permanent is not a big enough difference to take away a card draw from an opponent and give you a card draw.
edit: i guess it matches the wording for oblation but still sounds so wierd to me.
That's because you are not allowed to manipulate the opponent's library. If a shuffle for a library is required, there needs to be stated that the library's owner does it.
I just want to reiterate again that bounce is in no way similar to shuffling into the library, because no matter what it costs you a card to get the shuffled card back (a draw step). Excommunicate could trick you here because it looks like just tempo from a bounce spell, but even Excommunicate is card advantage. You're replacing your opponent's draw step with getting their creature back.
So don't minimize the fact that this is a board-interactive instant that always creates +1 card advantage just because in the worst case they can get their guy back within the timeframe of the match.
So our closest comp for this card is to find another 3 mana instant that interacted with the board and unconditionally generated +1 CA. Afflict is obviously small enough to count as conditional. Electrolyze is small removal even if it can general +2 in ideal circumstances. You can find things like Smash that do this effect at 3 mana for what is typically a 'less valuable' permanent type. You're really looking at going back to something like Oddysey or Invasion for cards like Exclude, Slay, or Execute to find something at all comparable. But all of those cards are in their respective ways more narrow that this card.
Fixed for you. You are losing a card for those spells: the spell's card itself.
So for 1UU, a mono-blue deck gets a near Condemn that works on non-attacking creatures and you get to draw a card. I think they should rename this to "Broken Card of the Month."
Its essentially a 1UU equivalent a 1RR enchantment removal card. . . that draws you a card. Way to strong.
Card drawing is incredibly strong, you know how you can tell? If this card drew the opponent a card but not you, would you play it?
How bout if it gave them 1 more card than you? See? It becomes bad.
Little jaces power almost never gets played.
so yeah. Its bent. ... and as a common, limited good times.
It's not a hard counter and they already printed memory lapse in white as Lapse of Certainty
Unlike Mana Tithe, Lapse of Certainty is a hard counter, it just gives them the card back in the future. Also note that blue could theoretically mill away the countered spell (or name it for a different spell or effect) while white would not do either of those things.
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So don't minimize the fact that this is a board-interactive instant that always creates +2 card advantage just because in the worst case they can get their guy back within the timeframe of the match.
So our closest comp for this card is to find another 3 mana instant that interacted with the board and unconditionally generated +2 CA. Afflict is obviously small enough to count as conditional. Electrolyze is small removal even if it can general +3 in ideal circumstances. You can find things like Smash that do this effect at 3 mana for what is typically a 'less valuable' permanent type. You're really looking at going back to something like Oddysey or Invasion for cards like Exclude, Slay, or Execute to find something at all comparable. But all of those cards are in their respective ways more narrow that this card.
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"shuffle target creature into it's owners library"
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"target creature is shuffled into it's owners library"
also card seems savagely broken.
instant speed removal for blue that cantrips for only 3 AND it ignores indestructibility/persist/graveyard triggers.
break it some more by removing "target" so it can get emrakul too.
edit: i guess it matches the wording for oblation but still sounds so wierd to me.
That's because you are not allowed to manipulate the opponent's library. If a shuffle for a library is required, there needs to be stated that the library's owner does it.
Fixed for you. You are losing a card for those spells: the spell's card itself.
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