(A big thank you to bravelion83 for this banner, an elaboration on the art of these cards: Maelstrom Nexus by Steven Belledin and Maelstrom Wanderer by Thomas M. Baxa.)
September 2016 MCC
Judge Signups
No new set, supplemental or otherwise, came out this month! Therefore, I am happy to fill in for bravelion83 for this month in particular. September 2016's MCC will involve a journey across space and time along a double rainbow, with choice colors mattering each and every round! Welcome to the fourth dimension!
As usual, volunteer judges are needed. Of course, I shall be one of them, but who will my fellows be? If you have already judged in an MCC before, just sign up here and you are in.
If you have never judged an MCC before, just try to judge the following sample card with our rubric. Assume all challenges (main and both sub) to be completely satisfied. Post your sample judgments right here in this thread and I shall reply as soon as possible.
option B
Maelstorm Overseer 3BW
Legendary Creature - Elemental
All Other Creatures you control get trample. (If it would assign enough damage to all it's blockers to destroy them you may have it assign it's extra damage to defending opponent or planeswalker.)
Cascade, Cascade.
It oversaw the rebirth.
5/7
Design - (X/3) Appeal: Do the different player psychographics (Timmy/Johhny/Spike) have a use for the card? (X/3) Elegance: Is the card easily understandable at a glance? Do all the flavor and mechanics combined as a whole make sense?
Development - (X/3) Viability: How well does the card fit into the color wheel? Does it break or bend the rules of the game? Is it the appropriate rarity? (X/3) Balance: Does the card have a power level appropriate for contemporary constructed/limited environments without breaking them? Does it play well in casual and multiplayer formats? Does it create or fit into a deck/archetype? Does it create an oppressive environment?
Creativity - (X/3) Uniqueness: Has a card like this ever been printed before? Does it use new mechanics, ideas, or design space? Does it combine old ideas in a new way? Overall, does it feel “fresh”? (X/3) Flavor: Does the name seem realistic for a card? Does the flavor text sound professional? Do all the flavor elements synch together to please Vorthos players?
Polish - (X/3) Quality: Points deducted for incorrect spelling, grammar, and templating. (X/2) *Main Challenge: Was the main challenge satisfied? Was it approached in a unique or interesting way? Does the card fit the intent of the challenge? (X/2) Subchallenges: One point awarded per satisfied subchallenge condition.
Total: X/25
*An entry with 0 points here is subject to disqualification.
Judge signups are open until either the designing deadline for Round 1 has passed or enough judges signup, whichever happens first. Round 1 shall officially begin on September 1st!
If you end up with enough judges other than me I would prefer to play, but just in case you don't, here's my judgment of the sample card.....
Maelstorm Overseer
Legendary Creature - Elemental
All Other Creatures you control get trample. (If it would assign enough damage to all it's blockers to destroy them you may have it assign it's extra damage to defending opponent or planeswalker.)
Cascade, Cascade.
It oversaw the rebirth.
5/7
Design -
(3/3) Appeal: Everybody likes cascade, and this card is super-powered. What's not to love?
(2/3) Elegance: The allusion to Maelstrom Wanderer helps here, but cascade, cascade sometimes gives new players trouble.
Development -
(0/3) Viability: I just can't see a W/B card granting trample. Although black creatures occasionally have trample (mostly Demons), white never sees it. Trample usually falls in green and red's slices of the color pie. Lifelink would be the best choice for this color pair. Even more importantly, your card has no rarity. With no rarity, it's impossible to fully judge the viability of a card. A rarity is a must on all cards. This card would have to be a mythic.
(0/3)Balance: This card is totally busted. Maelstrom Wanderer, which this is appears to be a mirror of, has a CMC of eight. This card should cost the same, or maybe even more since it's only two colors. Think of it this way, this card only cost more than Bloodbraid Elf, which is powerful enough to be banned in Modern.
Creativity -
(1/3) Uniqueness: This card is just a flip of Maelstrom Wanderer. I give you one point here because I actually kinda like that idea.
(2/3) Flavor: The flavor is fine, but a bit boring.
Polish -
(0/3) Quality: Sometimes I wish we could give negative points here. This card is one of those occasions..... Maelstorm should be Maelstrom, and the name should be bold (-1.5 pts). The mana cost should be , not (-0.5 pts). It should be "Creatures you control have trample." Also there is no reason the second two words in this line should be capitalized. (-1.5 pts). The reminder text for trample should be italicized, and doesn't really need to be there since it's an evergreen ability. Also, the reminder text should be (Those creatures can deal excess combat damage to defending player or planeswalker while attacking.) You are using the old trample reminder text, even there your wording is off a bit.(-2 pts). The second cascade should not be capitalized, and there should be no period at the end of that line (-1 pt). You should have used the space given to the trample reminder text to include reminder text for cascade. Non-evergreen abilities generally need reminder text, although on a mythic it is sometimes ok to leave it off. In your case I think it should be there, just like Maelstrom Wanderer (-0.5 pts). The flavor text should be italicized (-0.5 pts).
(2/2) *Main Challenge: All good.
(2/2) Subchallenges: All good.
Total:12/25
*An entry with 0 points here is subject to disqualification.
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(22 Total) - October 2014; December 2014; January 2015; April 2015; June 2015; August 2015; September 2015; November 2015; December 2015(T); January 2016; March 2016(T); April 2016; June 2016; October 2016; December 2016(T); February 2017; April 2017; December 2017; November 2018(T); January 2019; April 2019; June 2019
(8 Total) - May 2015; May 2016; June 2016; August 2016; October 2016; December 2016; October 2017; May 2019
(7 Total) - September 2015; October 2015; January 2016; March 2016; April 2016; July 2016(T); March 2019(T)
I've had my fair share of playing. I even made it to round 3 so far.
I'll judge September.
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Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
—Eli Shiffrin, Rules Manager, on a design stacking lifelink instances
If you end up with enough judges other than me I would prefer to play, but just in case you don't, here's my judgment of the sample card.....
Maelstorm Overseer
Legendary Creature - Elemental
All Other Creatures you control get trample. (If it would assign enough damage to all it's blockers to destroy them you may have it assign it's extra damage to defending opponent or planeswalker.)
Cascade, Cascade.
It oversaw the rebirth.
5/7
Design -
(3/3) Appeal: Everybody likes cascade, and this card is super-powered. What's not to love?
(2/3) Elegance: The allusion to Maelstrom Wanderer helps here, but cascade, cascade sometimes gives new players trouble.
Development -
(0/3) Viability: I just can't see a W/B card granting trample. Although black creatures occasionally have trample (mostly Demons), white never sees it. Trample usually falls in green and red's slices of the color pie. Lifelink would be the best choice for this color pair. Even more importantly, your card has no rarity. With no rarity, it's impossible to fully judge the viability of a card. A rarity is a must on all cards. This card would have to be a mythic.
(0/3)Balance: This card is totally busted. Maelstrom Wanderer, which this is appears to be a mirror of, has a CMC of eight. This card should cost the same, or maybe even more since it's only two colors. Think of it this way, this card only cost more than Bloodbraid Elf, which is powerful enough to be banned in Modern.
Creativity -
(1/3) Uniqueness: This card is just a flip of Maelstrom Wanderer. I give you one point here because I actually kinda like that idea.
(2/3) Flavor: The flavor is fine, but a bit boring.
Polish -
(0/3) Quality: Sometimes I wish we could give negative points here. This card is one of those occasions..... Maelstorm should be Maelstrom, and the name should be bold (-1.5 pts). The mana cost should be , not (-0.5 pts). It should be "Creatures you control have trample." Also there is no reason the second two words in this line should be capitalized. (-1.5 pts). The reminder text for trample should be italicized, and doesn't really need to be there since it's an evergreen ability. Also, the reminder text should be (Those creatures can deal excess combat damage to defending player or planeswalker while attacking.) You are using the old trample reminder text, even there your wording is off a bit.(-2 pts). The second cascade should not be capitalized, and there should be no period at the end of that line (-1 pt). You should have used the space given to the trample reminder text to include reminder text for cascade. Non-evergreen abilities generally need reminder text, although on a mythic it is sometimes ok to leave it off. In your case I think it should be there, just like Maelstrom Wanderer (-0.5 pts). The flavor text should be italicized (-0.5 pts).
(2/2) *Main Challenge: All good.
(2/2) Subchallenges: All good.
Total:12/25
*An entry with 0 points here is subject to disqualification.
@Flatline: I'm actually surprised and happy at the same time to see you trying this for real this time! I also know you're really hoping for one more judge to sign up so you can play. Anyway, if you don't mind, I'll also review your sample judgment later tonight (after I'm done with my own judgments for August Round 3), but of course the host has the final word. Getting back to you later.
EDIT 2, ad personam again (to Flatline again)
It turns out that later is now. My feedback is the spoiler below, to avoid influencing those that might still want to sign up. About that: if you're considering signing up as a judge and you've never judged before, please don't read the following spoiler. I'm not taking responsibility if you do, because you had been warned.
What I don't mention is good.
- Viability: white almost never sees it, just look for example at It That Rides as One (the back side of a white card) in EMN, the most recent set! Anyway, you're right that trample is neither white nor black. Trample is one of those few abilities that are tertiary in all colors that don't have it as primary or secondary, in that every color can technically get it on large enough creatures, and the typical example is blue Serpents. Though, a color that is tertiary in an ability cannot grant that ability, and that's why the first ability is unacceptable here. A full zero here is the right score, as here we're looking for two things: color pie and rarity, in addition to the unusual rules problems. Here both of those things are either completely wrong or missing, so you can't give anything other than zero here.
- Balance: a typo ("which this is appears"). Also, it's not that relevant in the case of this particular card, but a specific mention of limited, constructed (with a particular focus on Standard, even though you can certainly mention older formats), and casual/multiplayer would need to be added, even if just to say the card is fine in those formats. For this particular card, the unrealistic CMC alters everything, as you rightfully mention, so just caring about the cost can be fine. Again, giving a full zero here is the right choice. I usually divide the three points here into one for limited, one for constructed, and one for casual/multiplayer. This card in broken in all three, and a broken card should be penalized as heavily as an underpowered one if not more, because the underpowered card just doesn't get played while the overpowered one actively breaks the game.
- Uniqueness: one point is really the maximum you can give here. Piggybacking and anchoring (see Maro's articles or the ReMaking Magic podcast if you don't know what those design concepts are) are a powerful force and often make a very good job, but they always hurt in this area, even though they help in Elegance for example. In this particular case, it doesn't help that this card is clearly an example of those concepts pushed too far.
- Quality:
Sometimes I wish we could give negative points here.
Me too, but on real submissions, not sample cards... Sample cards are explicitly made to contain a lot of mistakes. Let's see if you spotted them all here... *checks* It looks like you catched everything, but I do have a few remarks.
First, you didn't mention the missing rarity again here. That alone should be -1 pt more. At least, you mentioned this in Viability but it's also a Quality mistake.
Second, I think you just included it in "your wording is off a bit" when you talk about trample's reminder text, but I would have liked an explicit mention of the two instances of "it's" that should not have an apostrophe.
Third, it should actually be "Other creatures you control have trample", your proposed correct wording doesn't contain the word "other" which is there in the submission so we have to assume that the designer's intent was for the Overseer itself to not have trample.
Overall, I think you would have no big problems in judging, even though I do know you'd prefer playing. The only important thing I'd recommend you in the light of this sample judgment is to focus more on each single format under Balance in addition to talking about the mana cost and general power level. Now we'll see if anyone else signs up as a judge and/or if three judges are enough. If no one else signs up and a fourth judge is indeed required, I would have no problem with you being it, even if of course the final word is to Blydden as the month's host. I'd be just a fellow judge this month!
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016 DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for: "Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
Thank you, bravelion83 and doomfish, for the continued hard work. You both have my sincere appreciations. See you both here again in September!
Flatline, I may not be at liberty to say this, but I am sure that you are welcome to judge the MCC any time. In fact, I am surprised that you have not already judged for one!
Flatline, I may not be at liberty to say this, but I am sure that you are welcome to judge the MCC any time. In fact, I am surprised that you have not already judged for one!
As this month's host, technically you're the only one that can say whether or not I am fit to judge. That is because I have never judged (nor hosted obviously) an MCC before. As I alluded to earlier, I'm not really a big fan of posting judgments of other people's cards (for a number of different reasons). That said, I've felt guilty about not helping out in an MCC for some time now. I have reaped the benefits of other people's time by competing in many MCCs over the years, and I have always felt that I should give back to the MCC portion of the community by judging or hosting at some point. I have tried to make up for not doing so by being one of the hosts of the DCC, but there are a lot of MCC folk that don't compete in the DCC. (I have no idea why that is since the DCC is the greatest. ) Anyway, thanks for accepting me as judge if no one else want to do it. If someone else does, as I said, I'd be more than happy to play instead.
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(22 Total) - October 2014; December 2014; January 2015; April 2015; June 2015; August 2015; September 2015; November 2015; December 2015(T); January 2016; March 2016(T); April 2016; June 2016; October 2016; December 2016(T); February 2017; April 2017; December 2017; November 2018(T); January 2019; April 2019; June 2019
(8 Total) - May 2015; May 2016; June 2016; August 2016; October 2016; December 2016; October 2017; May 2019
(7 Total) - September 2015; October 2015; January 2016; March 2016; April 2016; July 2016(T); March 2019(T)
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(A big thank you to bravelion83 for this banner, an elaboration on the art of these cards: Maelstrom Nexus by Steven Belledin and Maelstrom Wanderer by Thomas M. Baxa.)
September 2016 MCC
Judge Signups
No new set, supplemental or otherwise, came out this month! Therefore, I am happy to fill in for bravelion83 for this month in particular. September 2016's MCC will involve a journey across space and time along a double rainbow, with choice colors mattering each and every round! Welcome to the fourth dimension!
As usual, volunteer judges are needed. Of course, I shall be one of them, but who will my fellows be? If you have already judged in an MCC before, just sign up here and you are in.
If you have never judged an MCC before, just try to judge the following sample card with our rubric. Assume all challenges (main and both sub) to be completely satisfied. Post your sample judgments right here in this thread and I shall reply as soon as possible.
Maelstorm Overseer 3BW
Legendary Creature - Elemental
All Other Creatures you control get trample. (If it would assign enough damage to all it's blockers to destroy them you may have it assign it's extra damage to defending opponent or planeswalker.)
Cascade, Cascade.
It oversaw the rebirth.
5/7
(X/3) Appeal: Do the different player psychographics (Timmy/Johhny/Spike) have a use for the card?
(X/3) Elegance: Is the card easily understandable at a glance? Do all the flavor and mechanics combined as a whole make sense?
Development -
(X/3) Viability: How well does the card fit into the color wheel? Does it break or bend the rules of the game? Is it the appropriate rarity?
(X/3) Balance: Does the card have a power level appropriate for contemporary constructed/limited environments without breaking them? Does it play well in casual and multiplayer formats? Does it create or fit into a deck/archetype? Does it create an oppressive environment?
Creativity -
(X/3) Uniqueness: Has a card like this ever been printed before? Does it use new mechanics, ideas, or design space? Does it combine old ideas in a new way? Overall, does it feel “fresh”?
(X/3) Flavor: Does the name seem realistic for a card? Does the flavor text sound professional? Do all the flavor elements synch together to please Vorthos players?
Polish -
(X/3) Quality: Points deducted for incorrect spelling, grammar, and templating.
(X/2) *Main Challenge: Was the main challenge satisfied? Was it approached in a unique or interesting way? Does the card fit the intent of the challenge?
(X/2) Subchallenges: One point awarded per satisfied subchallenge condition.
Total: X/25
*An entry with 0 points here is subject to disqualification.
Judge signups are open until either the designing deadline for Round 1 has passed or enough judges signup, whichever happens first. Round 1 shall officially begin on September 1st!
Legendary Creature - Elemental
All Other Creatures you control get trample. (If it would assign enough damage to all it's blockers to destroy them you may have it assign it's extra damage to defending opponent or planeswalker.)
Cascade, Cascade.
It oversaw the rebirth.
5/7
Design -
(3/3) Appeal: Everybody likes cascade, and this card is super-powered. What's not to love?
(2/3) Elegance: The allusion to Maelstrom Wanderer helps here, but cascade, cascade sometimes gives new players trouble.
Development -
(0/3) Viability: I just can't see a W/B card granting trample. Although black creatures occasionally have trample (mostly Demons), white never sees it. Trample usually falls in green and red's slices of the color pie. Lifelink would be the best choice for this color pair. Even more importantly, your card has no rarity. With no rarity, it's impossible to fully judge the viability of a card. A rarity is a must on all cards. This card would have to be a mythic.
(0/3)Balance: This card is totally busted. Maelstrom Wanderer, which this is appears to be a mirror of, has a CMC of eight. This card should cost the same, or maybe even more since it's only two colors. Think of it this way, this card only cost more than Bloodbraid Elf, which is powerful enough to be banned in Modern.
Creativity -
(1/3) Uniqueness: This card is just a flip of Maelstrom Wanderer. I give you one point here because I actually kinda like that idea.
(2/3) Flavor: The flavor is fine, but a bit boring.
Polish -
(0/3) Quality: Sometimes I wish we could give negative points here. This card is one of those occasions..... Maelstorm should be Maelstrom, and the name should be bold (-1.5 pts). The mana cost should be , not (-0.5 pts). It should be "Creatures you control have trample." Also there is no reason the second two words in this line should be capitalized. (-1.5 pts). The reminder text for trample should be italicized, and doesn't really need to be there since it's an evergreen ability. Also, the reminder text should be (Those creatures can deal excess combat damage to defending player or planeswalker while attacking.) You are using the old trample reminder text, even there your wording is off a bit.(-2 pts). The second cascade should not be capitalized, and there should be no period at the end of that line (-1 pt). You should have used the space given to the trample reminder text to include reminder text for cascade. Non-evergreen abilities generally need reminder text, although on a mythic it is sometimes ok to leave it off. In your case I think it should be there, just like Maelstrom Wanderer (-0.5 pts). The flavor text should be italicized (-0.5 pts).
(2/2) *Main Challenge: All good.
(2/2) Subchallenges: All good.
Total:12/25
*An entry with 0 points here is subject to disqualification.
I'll judge September.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
—Eli Shiffrin, Rules Manager, on a design stacking lifelink instances
EDIT ad personam (to Flatline)
@Flatline: I'm actually surprised and happy at the same time to see you trying this for real this time! I also know you're really hoping for one more judge to sign up so you can play. Anyway, if you don't mind, I'll also review your sample judgment later tonight (after I'm done with my own judgments for August Round 3), but of course the host has the final word. Getting back to you later.
EDIT 2, ad personam again (to Flatline again)
It turns out that later is now. My feedback is the spoiler below, to avoid influencing those that might still want to sign up. About that: if you're considering signing up as a judge and you've never judged before, please don't read the following spoiler. I'm not taking responsibility if you do, because you had been warned.
What I don't mention is good.
- Viability: white almost never sees it, just look for example at It That Rides as One (the back side of a white card) in EMN, the most recent set! Anyway, you're right that trample is neither white nor black. Trample is one of those few abilities that are tertiary in all colors that don't have it as primary or secondary, in that every color can technically get it on large enough creatures, and the typical example is blue Serpents. Though, a color that is tertiary in an ability cannot grant that ability, and that's why the first ability is unacceptable here. A full zero here is the right score, as here we're looking for two things: color pie and rarity, in addition to the unusual rules problems. Here both of those things are either completely wrong or missing, so you can't give anything other than zero here.
- Balance: a typo ("which this is appears"). Also, it's not that relevant in the case of this particular card, but a specific mention of limited, constructed (with a particular focus on Standard, even though you can certainly mention older formats), and casual/multiplayer would need to be added, even if just to say the card is fine in those formats. For this particular card, the unrealistic CMC alters everything, as you rightfully mention, so just caring about the cost can be fine. Again, giving a full zero here is the right choice. I usually divide the three points here into one for limited, one for constructed, and one for casual/multiplayer. This card in broken in all three, and a broken card should be penalized as heavily as an underpowered one if not more, because the underpowered card just doesn't get played while the overpowered one actively breaks the game.
- Uniqueness: one point is really the maximum you can give here. Piggybacking and anchoring (see Maro's articles or the ReMaking Magic podcast if you don't know what those design concepts are) are a powerful force and often make a very good job, but they always hurt in this area, even though they help in Elegance for example. In this particular case, it doesn't help that this card is clearly an example of those concepts pushed too far.
- Quality:
Me too, but on real submissions, not sample cards... Sample cards are explicitly made to contain a lot of mistakes. Let's see if you spotted them all here... *checks* It looks like you catched everything, but I do have a few remarks.
First, you didn't mention the missing rarity again here. That alone should be -1 pt more. At least, you mentioned this in Viability but it's also a Quality mistake.
Second, I think you just included it in "your wording is off a bit" when you talk about trample's reminder text, but I would have liked an explicit mention of the two instances of "it's" that should not have an apostrophe.
Third, it should actually be "Other creatures you control have trample", your proposed correct wording doesn't contain the word "other" which is there in the submission so we have to assume that the designer's intent was for the Overseer itself to not have trample.
Overall, I think you would have no big problems in judging, even though I do know you'd prefer playing. The only important thing I'd recommend you in the light of this sample judgment is to focus more on each single format under Balance in addition to talking about the mana cost and general power level. Now we'll see if anyone else signs up as a judge and/or if three judges are enough. If no one else signs up and a fourth judge is indeed required, I would have no problem with you being it, even if of course the final word is to Blydden as the month's host. I'd be just a fellow judge this month!
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
Thank you, bravelion83 and doomfish, for the continued hard work. You both have my sincere appreciations. See you both here again in September!
Flatline, I may not be at liberty to say this, but I am sure that you are welcome to judge the MCC any time. In fact, I am surprised that you have not already judged for one!