Dang it! I can't believe I made the bares vs bears mistake again! For some reason I just can't seem to keep that straight. That said, I was happy to get a 3 for uniqueness from Blydden, and a bit surprised to have only gotten a 1.5 from bravelion83. While the ability to play lands from your graveyard has already been done with Crucible of Worlds (the only card to ever allow this to my knowledge), the drawback of only being able to play a card type from your graveyard is unprecedented in the history of Magic as far as I know. The closest thing to this that I can think of is Haakon, Stromgald Scourge, but Haakon only affects itself, which makes it a completely different thing. Anyway, I generally find the uniqueness category the most difficult to wrap my head around.
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@Necarg: Thanks for the crits! Just a few questions/concerns:
- Appeal: Wouldn't this appeal to Timmy/Tammy by virtue of letting you cast bigger things quicker? That is, after all, what extra lands help you do.
- Viability: Repeatable extra lands are never common, so I don't see why my card should be- they've always been rare or mythic. On modern-legal cards, the phrase "you may play N additional land(s)" as an activated or static ability of a permanent (so it's repeatable) have been at rare four times and mythic twice. Having a common that would let you play an extra land every turn, even with the cost, as well as sac a creature for free each turn, would be terrible for a set's limited environment.
- Quality: "Rather is it" can be used in a statement. It's somewhat archaic, but still used in poetic speech.
and a bit surprised to have only gotten a 1.5 from bravelion83
I have a known tendence to underestimate Uniqueness, and in fact if you look at other judgments I also gave others in my bracket a low score. It's definitely the area where I need to improve the most as a judge and I know it. Anyway, even if I raised all Uniqueness scores by 0.5-1 point the outcome wouldn't change. That doesn't mean I won't do it before the deadline though. I've definitely had food for thought... (thanks Bly!)
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
I cant' say I agree with Voxzorz judgments, as there are errors referring to both entries and the disparity between scores is surprising large, but not interested in pressing it this month.
Balance: This is super broken. It's like a double exploration for one more mana. Even the casting restriction doesn't help, because how many decks want to be casting spells that big? Not to mention that it's a super potent combo piece in the same way that Summer Bloom was. In limited, this card is even more ridiculous, creating likely unwinnable board states simply by hitting the field. This should cost at least one more coloured mana. I would say GGU to make it a bit better.
0.5/3
This feels like a very shallow and knee-jerk judging of my card. Yes, an obvious comparison is to Exploration; but the presence of a second color allows for a lot more power in the budget, as does the hefty drawback. One mana alone may not seem like much, but have you ever played against Thalia, Guardian of Thraben? Now imagine that's applied for every early and mid-game spell you play. Now that I think about it, your comments suggest to me that you misread my card as "spells you cast with CMC 6 or more" when it's really 6 or less. Lastly, saying that this creates "ridiculous board states" by hitting the field is an absurd oversimplification. It requires several other factors, such as having several excess lands in hand, enough mana to pay for the tax, a high enough curve to take advantage of, etc. Consider your average limited deck or 40% lands; by turn 3 on the play, you've drawn 4 lands on average. Let's say you have 5 in your hand for argument's sake. So by playing Domain on turn 2, you get to play a 4 drop on turn 3. How exactly is that broken?
Overall this judgment feels very disappointing. It offers very little insight and feels very rushed, like you were trying to get it done 20 minutes before the deadline and barely took the time to read the card before writing a hasty judgment and moving on. That it came a day late exacerbates that effect.
and a bit surprised to have only gotten a 1.5 from bravelion83
I have a known tendence to underestimate Uniqueness, and in fact if you look at other judgments I also gave others in my bracket a low score. It's definitely the area where I need to improve the most as a judge and I know it. Anyway, even if I raised all Uniqueness scores by 0.5-1 point the outcome wouldn't change. That doesn't mean I won't do it before the deadline though. I've definitely had food for thought... (thanks Bly!)
Thanks for the response fearlessfeline. I just want to make it known that I didn't post my thoughts as a complaint, nor did I post them in an attempt to get my score changed. I try not to question the judges as a rule, but some friendly card creation discussion is helpful to everyone, and I knew you would hear what I'm saying with an open mind. I've gotten enough uniqueness scores that were lower than I expected over the years that I figure I'm probably off in my judgment on the topic. I'm not sure my entry necessarily deserves a 3 (because the card is anchored by Crucible of Worlds and Oracle of Mul Daya etc), but considering there is no other card in history that limits any card type to only being played from the graveyard, it seems like at least a 2.5 would be in order. Of course I could be wrong. Either way, thanks for the judgment bravelion (you too Blydden), you're judgments are always excellent.
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With the reveal of Kaladesh yesterday, I'd like to reserve October for myself to host the obligatory Kaladesh themed month. I already have ideas for that and also for another month (one thing during the world-building panel caught my attention too...) so I think I'm going to host again one more time before Aether Revolt comes around. I'll remind everyone when the time comes.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
With the reveal of Kaladesh yesterday, I'd like to reserve October for myself to host the obligatory Kaladesh themed month. I already have ideas for that and also for another month (one thing during the world-building panel caught my attention too...) so I think I'm going to host again one more time before Aether Revolt comes around. I'll remind everyone when the time comes.
If you want October, remind me later this month, okay?
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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
If you want October, remind me later this month, okay?
Will do.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
It's looking like nobody else is going to volunteer to judge, and we're going to need four judges this month so........
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Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
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I can't believe I forgot about the deadline and didn't polish my card.
I don't think I even want to read the critiques. And I liked the concept too...
edit: That being said, I polished the flavor and put the usual tags. If that disqualifies me, so be it.
Unfortunately, yes, it does because it counts as editing your submission after the deadline. I'm really sorry. I'm still willing and planning to judge your card anyway regardless of whether you will read it or not, but the score will not matter.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
I thought so. Damn shame, took me only a minute or so. I've just been too busy the past few days.
Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate it if you judges would still score it, regardless of the DQ, as that's the reason I edited the post.
I'd rather get a meaningful judgement and a DQ than a shot at a real place with an unfinished design.
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Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
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I'd greatly appreciate it if you judges would still score it
I will do. I can't speak for the others though.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
So I read those bravelion articles on grammar (hopefully I remember them) and it struck me when they talked about play and cast. I think I understood what he said/wrote. If an ability could potentially allow lands, I need to use play. If it cannot possibly be used on lands, I use cast. but Chandra, Torch of Defiance got this
[+1]: Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card. If you don't, Chandra, Torch of Defiance deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So this should ability if present on a card should be presented like this?
Torch and Defy 4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card if it is not a land card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So what will happen If a Custom Card made it template like Chandra, ToD where Chandra uses cast instead of play. Does it considered a mistake?
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[+1]: Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card. If you don't, Chandra, Torch of Defiance deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So this should ability if present on a card should be presented like this?
Torch and Defy 4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card if it is not a land card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
No, it should use the same exact template as the planeswalker card unless the design intent is different. There is no contradiction. It says "you may cast that card. If you don't, (do something else)", so let's say you activate Chandra's ability, exile the top card of your library, and it's a land. You can't "cast" a land, so you don't. Saying "cast" also means you can't play it as a land, otherwise if the intent were to allow you to play lands the wording would have used the word "play", as you rightly noted above. This means you can't do anything with that land, so the "if you don't" part happens instead, but not because there is a "may" and you chose not to cast the card, but because you couldn't cast it in the first place even if you wanted.
Also, even if you want to allow lands being played with the impulsive draw, the wording on your card would be wrong. It would need to be this (remember to bold the name):
Torch and Defy4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So what will happen If a Custom Card made it template like Chandra, ToD where Chandra uses cast instead of play. Does it considered a mistake?
It depends on the intent. If the intent is to not allow the player to play lands out of the impulsive draw, then Chandra's wording is not a mistake. If instead the intent is to allow lands being played, then yes, it would be a mistake. In a vacuum and without additional information, I'd lean towards the latter if not specified, but in Chandra's case the presence of an "if you don't" clause makes me understand that the designer wanted that to happened in some cases, which makes sense with forbidding lands. Also, notice it's not "if you can't", it's "if you don't". If the designer wanted the last part to happen only if you actually cannot cast the card, the "may" would not be there and there would be the "can't" instead of "don't".
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
So I read those bravelion articles on grammar (hopefully I remember them) and it struck me when they talked about play and cast. I think I understood what he said/wrote. If an ability could potentially allow lands, I need to use play. If it cannot possibly be used on lands, I use cast. but Chandra, Torch of Defiance got this
[+1]: Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card. If you don't, Chandra, Torch of Defiance deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So this should ability if present on a card should be presented like this?
Torch and Defy 4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card if it is not a land card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So what will happen If a Custom Card made it template like Chandra, ToD where Chandra uses cast instead of play. Does it considered a mistake?
My impression was that it was to save on space - Girl's got four abilities! You can't cast lands
Cast implies that lands aren't included. You don't need an extra few words describing what cast implies, that's just wasting space.
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qowry asked: Is there a design reason that new Chandra's +1 is cast (vs play)?
Playing lands was too good I believe.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
@ Bravelion83: If you want to know more about the characters in my flavor text, you should watch the critically acclaimed show Arrested Development
It was more meant as a metaphor to explain how your card's flavor text made me feel, but I still might check it sometime. Thanks anyway for letting me know.
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• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index.Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
(2/3) Viability: Devoid has been recieved rather poorly, I question your decision to include it on the card. I see nothing red isn't supposed to do and Mythic is probably the right slot for massive 'impulsive' card draw.
While I can agree that devoid is a poor mechanic, omitting it from an Kozilek spell that was designed as though it were in Oath of the Gatewatch would likely be worse.
(1/3) Balance: This looks like it's problematic when included in a storm deck. It either ramps for 3, which not even Seething Song did or it get's you 7 new cards to play. That's insane. This can't be right.
While I do concede that this card is very powerful (perhaps more so than Seething Song on the surface), I'd argue that it's harder to use and therefore deserves more power in its budget. Quadruple red is not trivial to achieve, and seven colorless mana is not easy to use in a typical ritual-based storm deck, especially given how it cannot be used to cast further quadruple red spells.
Again, those are both very powerful things, but I'd argue that a RRRR-costing Bane of Bala Ged is comparable in power level to a turn 4 Elder Deep-Fiend accompanied by a flashed-back Kozilek's Return.
These are just my opinions at the end of the day, and even if they have no bearing on your judgement I appreciate your reading my comments. Thank you!
A couple quick thoughts on my submission for the final round of August....I'm a little surprised everybody didn't seem to like my flavor text. I'm a big fan of sweet and simple one liners for flavor text, and I am very fond of the flavor text of this particular card. It is supposed to represent the fact that you are disassembling an artifact to use as spare parts to reassemble broken artifacts. I can't think of anything cleaner and more representative of the idea behind the card. My second thought involves balance. Everybody seems to be worried that my card might be a bit too powerful, but I feel like it is well balanced when taking Trash for Treasure and Proclamation of Rebirth into account (all 3 cards cost 3 CMC). While both of these cards are powerful, neither has created an oppressive environment at any point to my knowledge. My card can return more cards than Trash for Treasure, but it can't return anything larger than a 6 CMC, it is limited to artifact creatures, and it costs an additional colored of mana to cast. Like Proclamation of Rebirth, it can return three creatures, and those three creatures can each be two drops (1 better than Proc), but it is limited in the fact that they must be artifact creatures. Also, it costs you an additional artifact and another color of mana to cast, and it doesn't have the added bonus that is forecast. Anyway, I don't post this in attempt to get anyone to change their mind, but I did want to share my thought process. As always, I am grateful to the judges for their time.
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@admirableadmiral: Designing for a set is an issue I thought about before. Maybe one should be able to include some info about where the card would appear. What's in the set?
I always assume it's in a future set and there I'd always leave Devoid out.
Regarding the powerlevel, your card doesn't cost RRRR, you put 2RR in the thread. While that doesn't refute your points entirely, it's considerably easier to play than quadruple red.
I concede that powerlevel is hard for me to judge, as I don't play constructed. So from the little I gather by talking to people who do, I assume anything that plays well with storm breaks entire formats.
That's probably not how it works. I'm sorry for that. Maybe I should get myself an constructed expert to aid me in my judgements.
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Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
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- Appeal: Wouldn't this appeal to Timmy/Tammy by virtue of letting you cast bigger things quicker? That is, after all, what extra lands help you do.
- Viability: Repeatable extra lands are never common, so I don't see why my card should be- they've always been rare or mythic. On modern-legal cards, the phrase "you may play N additional land(s)" as an activated or static ability of a permanent (so it's repeatable) have been at rare four times and mythic twice. Having a common that would let you play an extra land every turn, even with the cost, as well as sac a creature for free each turn, would be terrible for a set's limited environment.
- Quality: "Rather is it" can be used in a statement. It's somewhat archaic, but still used in poetic speech.
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
I have a known tendence to underestimate Uniqueness, and in fact if you look at other judgments I also gave others in my bracket a low score. It's definitely the area where I need to improve the most as a judge and I know it. Anyway, even if I raised all Uniqueness scores by 0.5-1 point the outcome wouldn't change. That doesn't mean I won't do it before the deadline though. I've definitely had food for thought... (thanks Bly!)
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
Have fun y'all.
This feels like a very shallow and knee-jerk judging of my card. Yes, an obvious comparison is to Exploration; but the presence of a second color allows for a lot more power in the budget, as does the hefty drawback. One mana alone may not seem like much, but have you ever played against Thalia, Guardian of Thraben? Now imagine that's applied for every early and mid-game spell you play. Now that I think about it, your comments suggest to me that you misread my card as "spells you cast with CMC 6 or more" when it's really 6 or less. Lastly, saying that this creates "ridiculous board states" by hitting the field is an absurd oversimplification. It requires several other factors, such as having several excess lands in hand, enough mana to pay for the tax, a high enough curve to take advantage of, etc. Consider your average limited deck or 40% lands; by turn 3 on the play, you've drawn 4 lands on average. Let's say you have 5 in your hand for argument's sake. So by playing Domain on turn 2, you get to play a 4 drop on turn 3. How exactly is that broken?
Overall this judgment feels very disappointing. It offers very little insight and feels very rushed, like you were trying to get it done 20 minutes before the deadline and barely took the time to read the card before writing a hasty judgment and moving on. That it came a day late exacerbates that effect.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
Will do.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
I don't think I even want to read the critiques. And I liked the concept too...
edit: That being said, I polished the flavor and put the usual tags. If that disqualifies me, so be it.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
—Eli Shiffrin, Rules Manager, on a design stacking lifelink instances
Unfortunately, yes, it does because it counts as editing your submission after the deadline. I'm really sorry. I'm still willing and planning to judge your card anyway regardless of whether you will read it or not, but the score will not matter.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate it if you judges would still score it, regardless of the DQ, as that's the reason I edited the post.
I'd rather get a meaningful judgement and a DQ than a shot at a real place with an unfinished design.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
—Eli Shiffrin, Rules Manager, on a design stacking lifelink instances
I will do. I can't speak for the others though.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
[+1]: Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card. If you don't, Chandra, Torch of Defiance deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So this should ability if present on a card should be presented like this?
Torch and Defy 4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card if it is not a land card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
So what will happen If a Custom Card made it template like Chandra, ToD where Chandra uses cast instead of play. Does it considered a mistake?
My judgments (including doomfish's) are now complete.
For starters, thanks for this.
This is correct.
No, it should use the same exact template as the planeswalker card unless the design intent is different. There is no contradiction. It says "you may cast that card. If you don't, (do something else)", so let's say you activate Chandra's ability, exile the top card of your library, and it's a land. You can't "cast" a land, so you don't. Saying "cast" also means you can't play it as a land, otherwise if the intent were to allow you to play lands the wording would have used the word "play", as you rightly noted above. This means you can't do anything with that land, so the "if you don't" part happens instead, but not because there is a "may" and you chose not to cast the card, but because you couldn't cast it in the first place even if you wanted.
Also, even if you want to allow lands being played with the impulsive draw, the wording on your card would be wrong. It would need to be this (remember to bold the name):
Torch and Defy 4R
Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card. If you don't, Torch and Defy deals 2 damage to each opponent.
It depends on the intent. If the intent is to not allow the player to play lands out of the impulsive draw, then Chandra's wording is not a mistake. If instead the intent is to allow lands being played, then yes, it would be a mistake. In a vacuum and without additional information, I'd lean towards the latter if not specified, but in Chandra's case the presence of an "if you don't" clause makes me understand that the designer wanted that to happened in some cases, which makes sense with forbidding lands. Also, notice it's not "if you can't", it's "if you don't". If the designer wanted the last part to happen only if you actually cannot cast the card, the "may" would not be there and there would be the "can't" instead of "don't".
Hope this helps.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
My impression was that it was to save on space - Girl's got four abilities! You can't cast lands
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MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
It was more meant as a metaphor to explain how your card's flavor text made me feel, but I still might check it sometime. Thanks anyway for letting me know.
MCC - Winner (6): Oct 2014, Apr Nov 2017, Jan 2018, Apr Jun 2019 || Host (15): Dec 2014, Apr Jul Aug Dec 2015, Mar Jul Aug Oct 2016, Feb Jul 2017, Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here) || Judge (34): every month from Nov 2014 to Nov 2016 except Oct 2015, every month from Feb to Jul 2017 except Apr 2017, then Oct 2017, May Jun Nov 2018, Feb Jul 2019 (last one here)
CCL - Winner (3): Jul 2016 (tied with Flatline), May 2017, Jul 2019 (last one here) || Host (5): Feb 2015, Mar Apr May Jun 2016
DCC - Winner (1): Mar 2015 (tied with Piar) || Host (3): May Oct 2015, Jan 2016
• The two public custom sets I've been part a part of the design team for:
"Brotherhood of Ormos" - Blog post with all info - set thread - design skeleton / card list || "Extinctia: Homo Evanuit" - Blog post with all info - set thread - card list spreadsheet
• "The Lion's Lair", my article series about MTG and custom card design in particular. Latest article here. Here is the article index. Rather outdated by now, and based on the old MCC rubric, but I'm leaving this here for anybody that might be interested anyway.
• My only public attempt at being a writer: the story of my Leonin custom planeswalker Jeff Lionheart. (I have a very big one that I'm working on right now but that's private for now, and I don't know if I will ever actually publish it, and I also have ideas for multiple future ones, including one where I'm going to reprise Jeff.)
While I can agree that devoid is a poor mechanic, omitting it from an Kozilek spell that was designed as though it were in Oath of the Gatewatch would likely be worse.
While I do concede that this card is very powerful (perhaps more so than Seething Song on the surface), I'd argue that it's harder to use and therefore deserves more power in its budget. Quadruple red is not trivial to achieve, and seven colorless mana is not easy to use in a typical ritual-based storm deck, especially given how it cannot be used to cast further quadruple red spells.
Again, those are both very powerful things, but I'd argue that a RRRR-costing Bane of Bala Ged is comparable in power level to a turn 4 Elder Deep-Fiend accompanied by a flashed-back Kozilek's Return.
These are just my opinions at the end of the day, and even if they have no bearing on your judgement I appreciate your reading my comments. Thank you!
@admirableadmiral: Designing for a set is an issue I thought about before. Maybe one should be able to include some info about where the card would appear. What's in the set?
I always assume it's in a future set and there I'd always leave Devoid out.
Regarding the powerlevel, your card doesn't cost RRRR, you put 2RR in the thread. While that doesn't refute your points entirely, it's considerably easier to play than quadruple red.
I concede that powerlevel is hard for me to judge, as I don't play constructed. So from the little I gather by talking to people who do, I assume anything that plays well with storm breaks entire formats.
That's probably not how it works. I'm sorry for that. Maybe I should get myself an constructed expert to aid me in my judgements.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
Multiple instances of lifelink on the same creature are redundant.
—Eli Shiffrin, Rules Manager, on a design stacking lifelink instances