Liliana of the Veil4BB
Planeswalker - Liliana (M)
+1): Up to two target creatures get -3/-3 until the beginning of your next turn.
0): Each opponent loses 3 life you gain life equal to the amount of life lost this way.
-4): Search your library for two cards and put them in your hand.
-7): Your opponent gains an emblem, " At the beginning of your upkeep you lose 10 life."
5
Thoughts if you opened this in the next set of Innistrad?
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Ophelia Le Doux (R/B)
Creature - Vampire Assassin
Haste First Strike
1/1
Firstly, WotC will never make a four ability Planeswalker again. Secondly, they wouldn't use the name of an existing card. If they reprint Liliana of the Veil, that would be cool, but a new Liliana would have a new name.
How about this?
Liliana, Death's Mistress 2BB
Planeswalker
[+1]: Up to one target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
[-3]: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
[-8]: You gain an emblem with "If a creature would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead and put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield under your control."
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So referencing a card that's two years old is a valid argument? In the post M15 NWO design, I doubt there will be another 4 ability walker.
You could at least change the name...
So referencing a card that's two years old is a valid argument?
Yes. There has been no statement from anyone at Wizards about not doing 4APs again. Garruk, Apex Predator is the product of repeat requests for more 4APs. When Nicol Bolas returns, expect players asking for his next card to be a 4AP.
In the post M15 NWO design, I doubt there will be another 4 ability walker.
New World Order governs complexity at common and nothing else. Why do people keep misunderstanding that?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
A full turn of debuff would be pretty interesting, though I think I would switch the +1 and the +0 for power level concerns. I'm not fond of the drain abilities, especially since Sorin, Grim Nemesis already has plenty of life drain going around in this block.
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Planeswalker - Liliana (M)
+1): Up to two target creatures get -3/-3 until the beginning of your next turn.
0): Each opponent loses 3 life you gain life equal to the amount of life lost this way.
-4): Search your library for two cards and put them in your hand.
-7): Your opponent gains an emblem, " At the beginning of your upkeep you lose 10 life."
5
Thoughts if you opened this in the next set of Innistrad?
Ophelia Le Doux (R/B)
Creature - Vampire Assassin
Haste First Strike
1/1
Gold: 0
Inventory: Clothes
Abilities:
Traits: Speed
Experience: 6/20
Mana: R
Odula Besa (U/B)
Creature - Vampire Artificer
T: Target artifact creature gets your choice of -1/-0 or +1/+0 until end of turn.
1/1
Gold: 41
Inventory: Adventurer's Clothes, Basic Artificer Toolkit, 3 pounds of Basic metal.
Abilities: N/A
Current Goals:
Experience: 1/20
Mana: 2(U/B)(U/B)
How about this?
Liliana, Death's Mistress 2BB
Planeswalker
[+1]: Up to one target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
[-3]: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
[-8]: You gain an emblem with "If a creature would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead and put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield under your control."
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Servien
Chaos' Realm
Escalation of Chaos
Tales of Cahdaria
Enigmatic Distrubance
Celestial Unveiling
Ophelia Le Doux (R/B)
Creature - Vampire Assassin
Haste First Strike
1/1
Gold: 0
Inventory: Clothes
Abilities:
Traits: Speed
Experience: 6/20
Mana: R
Odula Besa (U/B)
Creature - Vampire Artificer
T: Target artifact creature gets your choice of -1/-0 or +1/+0 until end of turn.
1/1
Gold: 41
Inventory: Adventurer's Clothes, Basic Artificer Toolkit, 3 pounds of Basic metal.
Abilities: N/A
Current Goals:
Experience: 1/20
Mana: 2(U/B)(U/B)
You could at least change the name...
Servien
Chaos' Realm
Escalation of Chaos
Tales of Cahdaria
Enigmatic Distrubance
Celestial Unveiling
Yes. There has been no statement from anyone at Wizards about not doing 4APs again. Garruk, Apex Predator is the product of repeat requests for more 4APs. When Nicol Bolas returns, expect players asking for his next card to be a 4AP.
New World Order governs complexity at common and nothing else. Why do people keep misunderstanding that?
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
A full turn of debuff would be pretty interesting, though I think I would switch the +1 and the +0 for power level concerns. I'm not fond of the drain abilities, especially since Sorin, Grim Nemesis already has plenty of life drain going around in this block.