This is my Ravages of War made in the new promo style.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has used the new promo style.
For my text boxes and the type bar, I made the background completely black and then made them 50% transparent. I notice the game day promos text box and type bar are a bit darker.
In order to show my other new game day promo renders, I would have to go back and put in "*NOT FOR SALE*" on each of them; I'm too lazy to do so. But I also made:
-Mana Vault
-Sol Ring
-Tolarian Academy
-Progenitus
-Chrome Mox
-Mox Diamond
-Demonic Tutor
-Mystical Tutor
Why eBay and WOTC both turn their heads away from illegal token proxies is beyond me however.
EDIT: Remember armchairathlete? Popped up on iOffer. Please report this fool to WOTC as well.
Excuse me Zeerbe. But this really is not the thread for that kind of information.
Could you please not post that stuff here! It irritates the hell out of me!
YES! We all know that people are abusing all the things they can. YES! Outrageous sums of money. YES! Abusing and selling other peoples art.
YES! Abusing this ... Abusing that ... Abusing left ... Abusing right ... Abusing all over the place!
All of those things are common knowledge! But this thread is not police thread! We are all here to ENJOY proxies of our favorite game!
You should open separate thread for this kind of stuff. I will be one of the people contributing to it ... just don't want to see it here!
PS: I hope you understand. I'm not judging your righteous wrath and zealous persecution of that kind of stuff. I'm just fed up!
Additionally, as a community service, we encourage users to use this thread to raise awareness of illicit auctions dealing with items that violate Wizard of the Coast's policy as outlined above, for the purpose of reporting these auctions to WotC's customer service department (contactable here, under 'report suspicious behavior).
I will continue to post what I find out in the wild. Feel free to put me on your ignore list.
I will continue to post what I find out in the wild. Feel free to put me on your ignore list.
No! I will not do that. Its over the top! You are doing right stuff! But in IMO place is wrong!
But i would really like form you and the moderators to open the new thread specifically for that! It would be much better and more efficient. And that would leave us to enjoy this one in peace.
Again I' m not judging you!!! I understand, but just don't want to see it here.
I think here is the perfect place for policing the images we provide. Anyone scanning the thread with nefarious purposes will see that we actively work against their efforts and it may discourage such abuse.
@Zeerbe: The reason eBay and WotC don't take action against tokens is because anything can be used as tokens. Printing out a token isn't illegal, and thus is really the only legal "proxy" you can physically print, because it's not technically a proxy. If someone wants to pay good money for a token, that's on them. The only way it would be considered illegal is if they're using art from an artist that did not give them permission and selling the tokens for profit on top of that. In that case the best course of action would be to find the artist's contact information and let them know that their art is being used against copyright laws. It's their responsibility to take care of the situation, and they have the right to then sue the offender, which would likely deter that person from selling "proxy" tokens again.
If the token maker is using the frames printed by wizards of the coast then they're breaking trademark laws, and it is still illegal. They would need to develop their own frame, and then there is always the use of the "language" of magic that could be construed as breaking copyright laws. And that's not taking into account the art issue. It's all still illegal.
If the token maker is using the frames printed by wizards of the coast then they're breaking trademark laws, and it is still illegal. They would need to develop their own frame, and then there is always the use of the "language" of magic that could be construed as breaking copyright laws. And that's not taking into account the art issue. It's all still illegal.
This is the truth. Printing ANYTHING that Wizards prints is a violation of their copyright.
I think here is the perfect place for policing the images we provide. Anyone scanning the thread with nefarious purposes will see that we actively work against their efforts and it may discourage such abuse.
@Zeerbe: The reason eBay and WotC don't take action against tokens is because anything can be used as tokens. Printing out a token isn't illegal, and thus is really the only legal "proxy" you can physically print, because it's not technically a proxy. If someone wants to pay good money for a token, that's on them. The only way it would be considered illegal is if they're using art from an artist that did not give them permission and selling the tokens for profit on top of that. In that case the best course of action would be to find the artist's contact information and let them know that their art is being used against copyright laws. It's their responsibility to take care of the situation, and they have the right to then sue the offender, which would likely deter that person from selling "proxy" tokens again.
long time lurker first time poster but felt it was time to say something lol,
And this is why I would have to agree with keeping the illegal selling etc posts out of the thread, all it seems to do is cause a re-hash of posts regarding policies, legality etc. that devolves the thread, which is exactly what happened to the last one.
Lets keep it about the renders and discussion on artwork and methods which is the purpose of the thread
long time lurker first time poster but felt it was time to say something lol,
And this is why I would have to agree with keeping the illegal selling etc posts out of the thread, all it seems to do is cause a re-hash of posts regarding policies, legality etc. that devolves the thread, which is exactly what happened to the last one.
Lets keep it about the renders and discussion on artwork and methods which is the purpose of the thread
First, thanks for joining MTGS. I understand where you are coming from (your whole sentiment), but unfortunately there are A LOT of people who disregard the OP of threads. I don't mind rehashing this language as a constant reminder. It is under the reasons explicitly outlined in the OP that we reintroduced this thread. There's quite a degree of stepping on eggshells and CYA.
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For those who post renders in here, I continue to thank you for the time, effort, and creativity. Unfortunately, there's a real issue of lurkers/schmucks who rip our images and try to pass it off on ebay sites for profit. That's clearly NOT what we're about.
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I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
I have no problem with people reporting bad ebay people in this thread.
That being said, I don't really understand why that "contributes" more to the thread than people saying "good job" or "i really like that image" or "that link doesn't work. Those statements are considered spam.
The thread fills up with posts that are only temporarily useful (if useful at all) and you end up with only a couple of renders per page. -- a Moderator a couple pages back.
I'm not really seeing the difference.
Regardless, here is Llanowar Elves as requested on page 7.
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Aether Revolt was a revolting pre-release. As if Vehicles weren't frustrating enough, now you don't even have to crew them.
Aw man, I'm sorry you don't like it, but I love the new promo frame; I wish every standard card had it. In addition to the previous 10 I made, I'm currently making the 5 titans, every Ravnican guild leader, Jace's Archivist (my brother's request) and Anvil of Bogardan (also my brother's request) in the new frame.
@Gheta: Are you using the official arts for those cards, or finding some that sort of fit? I have the highest resolution versions of some of those ones available if you need them.
@TheEvilCliff: I'm sorry, but that art doesn't fit the Sliver Queen at all.
@Ninschi: I'll PM you if I find that one in particular, but for the rest, check my "Magic Art Archive" thread in the artwork subforum. All of the AVR art available in hi-res that I've been able to find is in there. Keep in mind that artists aren't allowed to put the images on their site until official spoilers of the art have been revealed, so the spoilers we got from those spanish cards don't count.
@TheEvilCliff: The card type box is a bit to low and cutting into the rules text. And I partially agree with your statement about the new promo card style; however I feel that it works well in certain cards (ones with two different focal points at top/bottom, or a large amount of detain throughout), that other boarder types can't fit.
@Trancebam: I don't see how TheEvileCliff's art doesn't fit a sliver queen. Yes it doesn't exactly match how Slivers are depicted in official cards; however the art looks good and has a nice tie in when you note that its a picture of Kerrigan (leader of the Zerg swarm which shares quite a few qualities with slivers).
I looked into using the original art, just making it super-art, but it just wasn't as fun. And if you're not familiar with the Queen of Blades, it won't make sense.
There's a lot of anime references I have seen here that I didn't get, it's all good.
I hadn't thought about the dual-zone nature of the new promo, but there was a cycle of the Alara tri-lands that used the unhinged land frame and shadow text...and look phenomenal.
But like I said, we have the tools to make things look how we want.
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I have 15 EDH decks...sorta kills the 'I only need one of a card' aspect of the format.
I went and started a Commander/EDH blog! Come see it at http://wordofcommander.blogspot.com/ and it includes all 15 of my custom super-art generals!
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Sorry to break up all the love for the new frame, but those bars going across are just not to my taste.
Agreed! I don't like it either. They did a lot of beautiful cards in the past: Unhinged Lands, Zendikar Full Art Lands, Champs Promos, Player Rewards. And now they start to break up their beautiful art with this annoying bars going across the image.
As you can see in my gallery I prefer the Extended Art frame or the Super Art frame (especially the Planswalkers by zeerbe:D)
That does not mean that I do not like your renders in the new promo frame. Everybody here shall decide on his own, and we are all doing great work here.
I hadn't thought about the dual-zone nature of the new promo, but there was a cycle of the Alara tri-lands that used the unhinged land frame and shadow text...and look phenomenal.
You are talking about my creations? They are still in my gallery. They are not compliant to the new thread rules, so I cannot post them again. If someone requests them I can update them.
@zeerbe: I fully support your activity in putting down all those bloody proxy sellers! They rip people off and steal our work (we do for fun and for free) and make profit out of it! PM me if I may help!
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see Seven's Digital Renders @ Photobucket here
-=STOP PROXY SELLERS=-
For the look of the new promo frame, I feel that having the bars gives the card a neat looking structure, kind of like how planeswalkers are full-art but with boxes. I feel that not only does a lot of the text get harder to read on other full art cards, to me the text feels unstructured and not placed right on the cards.
As for us digital renderers, I think the borders add another structure for us to make the art spill over into (besides the standard boxes on normal cards and super art). If you look at my Azami render in the new promo frame a couple of pages ago, you'll see what I'm talking about. Although she is behind the bars and text box, the scrolls spill over them- and I think that is a cool method with the new promos.
If at some point you start to care, you can sharpen the art to make it more crisp. Try an Unsharp Mask with a low radius and amount of about 2.
Thanks for the tip brother.
@Gheta: Are you using the official arts for those cards, or finding some that sort of fit? I have the highest resolution versions of some of those ones available if you need them.
I'm using the best I can find on google images that is official art. Though some are old and fuzzy (like the anvil of bogardan, windfall, mystical tutor , and some I can't find a larger art of like the promo of chrome mox). What's nice is that when they are the actual size of the face of the cards (like if printed), they aren't that fuzzy and feel old-school but in new frames.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mtg-Power-9-Proxy-set-Casual-use-only-/150798378448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231c48a5d0#ht_500wt_1066
Report to eBay and WOTC please.
Why eBay and WOTC both turn their heads away from illegal token proxies is beyond me however.
EDIT: Remember armchairathlete? Popped up on iOffer. Please report this fool to WOTC as well.
I understand that the art in the cards are a little fuzzy, and I don't care.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that has used the new promo style.
For my text boxes and the type bar, I made the background completely black and then made them 50% transparent. I notice the game day promos text box and type bar are a bit darker.
In order to show my other new game day promo renders, I would have to go back and put in "*NOT FOR SALE*" on each of them; I'm too lazy to do so. But I also made:
-Mana Vault
-Sol Ring
-Tolarian Academy
-Progenitus
-Chrome Mox
-Mox Diamond
-Demonic Tutor
-Mystical Tutor
...all in the new promo style.
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RoblinTheGoblin's Pro M15 Template v1.3
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Excuse me Zeerbe. But this really is not the thread for that kind of information.
Could you please not post that stuff here! It irritates the hell out of me!
YES! We all know that people are abusing all the things they can. YES! Outrageous sums of money. YES! Abusing and selling other peoples art.
YES! Abusing this ... Abusing that ... Abusing left ... Abusing right ... Abusing all over the place!
All of those things are common knowledge! But this thread is not police thread! We are all here to ENJOY proxies of our favorite game!
You should open separate thread for this kind of stuff. I will be one of the people contributing to it ... just don't want to see it here!
PS: I hope you understand. I'm not judging your righteous wrath and zealous persecution of that kind of stuff. I'm just fed up!
I will continue to post what I find out in the wild. Feel free to put me on your ignore list.
No! I will not do that. Its over the top! You are doing right stuff! But in IMO place is wrong!
But i would really like form you and the moderators to open the new thread specifically for that! It would be much better and more efficient. And that would leave us to enjoy this one in peace.
Again I' m not judging you!!! I understand, but just don't want to see it here.
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Decks:
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:symu::symb::symw: Sharuum the Hegemon - EDH
:symw::symu::symb: Zur the Enchanter - EDH
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Link to the image:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/191
This is the truth. Printing ANYTHING that Wizards prints is a violation of their copyright.
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long time lurker first time poster but felt it was time to say something lol,
And this is why I would have to agree with keeping the illegal selling etc posts out of the thread, all it seems to do is cause a re-hash of posts regarding policies, legality etc. that devolves the thread, which is exactly what happened to the last one.
Lets keep it about the renders and discussion on artwork and methods which is the purpose of the thread
First, thanks for joining MTGS. I understand where you are coming from (your whole sentiment), but unfortunately there are A LOT of people who disregard the OP of threads. I don't mind rehashing this language as a constant reminder. It is under the reasons explicitly outlined in the OP that we reintroduced this thread. There's quite a degree of stepping on eggshells and CYA.
--
For those who post renders in here, I continue to thank you for the time, effort, and creativity. Unfortunately, there's a real issue of lurkers/schmucks who rip our images and try to pass it off on ebay sites for profit. That's clearly NOT what we're about.
10th at SCG: Syracuse (2014), GP:NJ Last-Chance Grinder Winner (2014):: Former Legacy Mod
That being said, I don't really understand why that "contributes" more to the thread than people saying "good job" or "i really like that image" or "that link doesn't work. Those statements are considered spam.
The thread fills up with posts that are only temporarily useful (if useful at all) and you end up with only a couple of renders per page. -- a Moderator a couple pages back.
I'm not really seeing the difference.
Regardless, here is Llanowar Elves as requested on page 7.
My response is on my blog. http://zeerbe.blogspot.com/
Now, how bout a promo Miracle?
Art from: http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/boab/boab191_tzrhj5z640.jpg
I ended up changing my Karador token deck into a Sliver Queen token deck, so naturally, I needed a custom foil.
I wasn't sure about the spill on her feet, but with a touch of shadow (thanks again, Theogony!) it's pleasing to me.
Here she is!
I went and started a Commander/EDH blog! Come see it at http://wordofcommander.blogspot.com/ and it includes all 15 of my custom super-art generals!
If you're more into the finance section of the game, I write on Fridays for MTGPrice.com.
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Those bars, to me, are sort of like a set of burglar bars obstructing my oceanfront view.
But I recognize that everyone has their preference, and super-art plus spill likely runs others the wrong way too.
/end preach
I went and started a Commander/EDH blog! Come see it at http://wordofcommander.blogspot.com/ and it includes all 15 of my custom super-art generals!
If you're more into the finance section of the game, I write on Fridays for MTGPrice.com.
@TheEvilCliff: I'm sorry, but that art doesn't fit the Sliver Queen at all.
@Ninschi: I'll PM you if I find that one in particular, but for the rest, check my "Magic Art Archive" thread in the artwork subforum. All of the AVR art available in hi-res that I've been able to find is in there. Keep in mind that artists aren't allowed to put the images on their site until official spoilers of the art have been revealed, so the spoilers we got from those spanish cards don't count.
My art blog
Claims:
The kicker variant in WWK will be "Kicker without a kicked effect." - proven wrong Jan 2010 : 2 wrongs
Decks:
:symu::symb: Bloodchief Ascension - Modern
:symb::symr: Rakdos, the Defiler - EDH
:symu::symb::symw: Sharuum the Hegemon - EDH
:symw::symu::symb: Zur the Enchanter - EDH
@Trancebam: I don't see how TheEvileCliff's art doesn't fit a sliver queen. Yes it doesn't exactly match how Slivers are depicted in official cards; however the art looks good and has a nice tie in when you note that its a picture of Kerrigan (leader of the Zerg swarm which shares quite a few qualities with slivers).
If at some point you start to care, you can sharpen the art to make it more crisp. Try an Unsharp Mask with a low radius and amount of about 2.
There's a lot of anime references I have seen here that I didn't get, it's all good.
I hadn't thought about the dual-zone nature of the new promo, but there was a cycle of the Alara tri-lands that used the unhinged land frame and shadow text...and look phenomenal.
But like I said, we have the tools to make things look how we want.
I went and started a Commander/EDH blog! Come see it at http://wordofcommander.blogspot.com/ and it includes all 15 of my custom super-art generals!
If you're more into the finance section of the game, I write on Fridays for MTGPrice.com.
Agreed! I don't like it either. They did a lot of beautiful cards in the past: Unhinged Lands, Zendikar Full Art Lands, Champs Promos, Player Rewards. And now they start to break up their beautiful art with this annoying bars going across the image.
As you can see in my gallery I prefer the Extended Art frame or the Super Art frame (especially the Planswalkers by zeerbe:D)
That does not mean that I do not like your renders in the new promo frame. Everybody here shall decide on his own, and we are all doing great work here.
You are talking about my creations? They are still in my gallery. They are not compliant to the new thread rules, so I cannot post them again. If someone requests them I can update them.
@zeerbe: I fully support your activity in putting down all those bloody proxy sellers! They rip people off and steal our work (we do for fun and for free) and make profit out of it! PM me if I may help!
-=STOP PROXY SELLERS=-
As for us digital renderers, I think the borders add another structure for us to make the art spill over into (besides the standard boxes on normal cards and super art). If you look at my Azami render in the new promo frame a couple of pages ago, you'll see what I'm talking about. Although she is behind the bars and text box, the scrolls spill over them- and I think that is a cool method with the new promos.
Thanks for the tip brother.
I'm using the best I can find on google images that is official art. Though some are old and fuzzy (like the anvil of bogardan, windfall, mystical tutor , and some I can't find a larger art of like the promo of chrome mox). What's nice is that when they are the actual size of the face of the cards (like if printed), they aren't that fuzzy and feel old-school but in new frames.
RoblinTheGoblin's Pro M15 Template:
RoblinTheGoblin's Pro M15 Template v1.3
Also includes M15+ real god stars, promo template, super art template, planeswalker template