I love me some boobies, but WOW - Withering, the stuff you do is just tasteless.
In addition, you are FAR more likely to be found in violation of copyright. First off, standard alters can be considered derivative works (though it is a stretch, it is possible). The issue at hand is whether the new expression that contains significant parts of a protected work displays sufficient originality. Slapping tits on WotC art is, in my opinion, unoriginal at best and would likely not be found sufficiently original by a court. I'm surprised WotC hasn't come banging on your door yet.
If they're trying to shut down PolishTamales for FREE Fan Art that has a very watered down hint at a suggestive theme, then I'm REALLY surprised they haven't shut this guy down, mainly because, he's making a profit off of it... If they don't like free stuff in taste like PolishTamales, then your stuff is definately on the chopping block...
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The Hostility against printed cards is completely unwarranted.
People can buy whatever they want, if they like your art less it does not give you the right to be angry about it.
Stolen Art however is something different but complaining because your own card altering business isnt cost efficient (Your paint costs more than golden fluid ffs) is just silly.
Of course claiming it takes 10 hours to increase elesh norns bra size and cut her out with an xacto knife is silly as well
That's my gripe too, he's stealing art, sexing them up, then trying to sell them. Hell, he even took a pic of Chandra from something (I think it was DotP 2013) and made it so her boobs are showing through her armor.
He made a mostly-naked Teysa, and more, he even stole Steve Argyle's un-printed LotV artwork and apparently, as risque as it was, it wasn't sexy enough for this guy because her boobs are all but hanging out and she's wearing all but nothing...
The DCI and WotC have very big issues with that.
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Please, let's bring the calm back to the topic. Personal attacks does not contribute in any way and induces disorder and antipathy.
Crossing the line regarding respect and good manners may lead to get an infraction, and usually people ignores where's the line until they've crossed it.
From Dave Rapoza's Facebook feed. Altered Prints.com hasn't commissioned Dave Rapoza for this work and it is actually a licensed work from Applibot.
The funnier thing is, from ABUGames.
"Q: Will you do a commission for _________?
A: Sorry, neither ABUGames or AlteredPrints.com will accept commissions. This is to protect the rights of the numerous artists who have their artwork stolen by sleazy alteration companies, (look up any other prints on ebay. Those "prints" are stolen artwork placed on cards! Buying them not only supports crooks stealing artwork and trying to make a quick buck online, but YOU ARE LIABLE FOR PROSECUTION!"
That's in the header on the "Altered Prints" page.
Obviously, we can assume DR has contacts in the art community, I'm more willing to trust his and their words that they were not contacted in the use of these artworks, especially considering that the Work of Dave's that was used was actually a copyrighted work for another company.
These sleazy "altered print" companies just don't care who they have to stomp on to get their dollar, do they? Dave and other artists like him have had to fight tooth and nail just to get the money they're owed. It's not fair for some guy in a basement to use their works to make a quick buck.
Just figured i'd post this here since this thread is for discussion of AlteredPrints.com.
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AlteredPrints.com are the ones making these. They are illegally reproducing the artwork. Don't ****ing buy them!
And AlteredPrints just put this up on their Facebook page.
IMPORTANT UPDATE
Altered Prints has recently come under new management. When we took over Altered Prints we were assured that every piece of artwork being used had proper documentation and permission from every artist, or any party who owned the art. In the course of recent events, we have been made aware of artists who have claimed to have their art used without permission, which has come as a complete surprise to our new Altered Prints team. We are doing everything we can to get this taken care of, and to get proper documentation for all work to share with the artists in question, and determine whether it was properly obtained or not.
In the mean time we have suspended our facebook comments and encourage all inquiries from artists on this matter be sent via email to [email]alteredprints@gmail.com[/email]
Our goal with Altered Prints is to showcase artists, not take away from them. It is our highest priority to maintain the integrity of Altered Prints by working closely with artists to make sure their art is properly obtained, and any shortcuts that may have been taken by previous management are not acceptable with us. We hope everyone will be willing to work with us to keep Altered Prints a positive contribution to the MTG community and the Artist Community.
...I don't know if they have recently changed management, but it sounds like they're trying to cover their own hides and that the previous owners (if there are any) were simply trying to find a scapegoat...
EDIT: Daarken also had some things to say about ABUgames as well.
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Yeah, not only do they steal art and sell them illegally, but they also flip sigs and alters. They had me do some alters and I only charged them $10 each and they immediately put them on their site for $80 each. So annoying.
to share some first hand info, I am a magic artist and have discovered my work being used illegally on several cards in the Alter Prints inventory. I would not speak directly for anybody else, though I do have many friends who have also found work of theirs being used without their knowledge or consent. So far I've only heard from a few people who actually had granted permission, most others (myself included) were completely unaware. Right now things are very muddy and it is possible that the new owners were ignorant of their illegal activity which at the least indicates a significant failure in confirming the legitimacy of the assets they were purchasing. If this is the case, I have yet to see any compelling proof. Some of the artwork (not mine) is actually owned by major gaming companies who never sub-license. As to my own pieces, most were personal works and all are piece which I am the sole copyright owner. To the best of my knowledge, my own work is being removed from their inventory. I hope that the new owners will clean out the inventory and rebuild it with legitimately purchased artwork, but until that happens, a large portion (to say the least) of these are being sold without compensation to or knowledge by the rightful owners of the artwork.
It's sad to hear about the poor state of these things, I think if you're purchasing a company, you'd have to do a bit of legwork to find out if everything was legitimate... Sounds like the new owners aren't good business people in my view.
I'm glad they're taking your works out of their inventory, it gives me some hope that they're sincere in their promise to do so.
Here's hoping everyone else whose work was stolen also contacts them.
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Sorry if I'm necroing a dead thread, but I was wondering if anyone had any updates about this site
I ran across them through an ebay listing and was considering trying to buy something from them, but I want to make sure the art is legitimate first
I wouldn't buy it, they inflate their prices for a relatively simple process of Print, cut, stick, sell...
I don't think you can link to ebay auctions on this site, but if you could post a pic of the item in question, then we might be able to help you out better.
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If you want to get unique pieces for your collection/decks, I would suggest you to hire an actual artist and get handpainted alters, wich happen to be "real" alters. You can do so by contacting an alterer from the altered art thread by PMing him/her, or picking one at the Official Altered Cards Artist Contact Thread.
Personally, I wouldn't buy stuff from a company/group/dealer that used to plagiarize real artists' material.
But interestingly... as high quality as they claim these alters to be, if you look at the few real photographs... they are all in heavily played condition... the rest look like straight digital images LOLOLOL....
PS. oh and they quadrupled the price again... cough cough.... there goes my hope of ever getting one legally...
So.... is there any place to get these anymore? they looked really nice
I picked up the "Tamiyo Flower Girl" alter a couple years back, and I love that thing, and I'm trying to find more, but I can't find a place to buy a single card these guys worked on, not even second hand from another buyer.... wtf?
So.... is there any place to get these anymore? they looked really nice
I picked up the "Tamiyo Flower Girl" alter a couple years back, and I love that thing, and I'm trying to find more, but I can't find a place to buy a single card these guys worked on, not even second hand from another buyer.... wtf?
Yeah, because some of the art he was using was stolen, so WotC put a stop to him.
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If they're trying to shut down PolishTamales for FREE Fan Art that has a very watered down hint at a suggestive theme, then I'm REALLY surprised they haven't shut this guy down, mainly because, he's making a profit off of it... If they don't like free stuff in taste like PolishTamales, then your stuff is definately on the chopping block...
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That's my gripe too, he's stealing art, sexing them up, then trying to sell them. Hell, he even took a pic of Chandra from something (I think it was DotP 2013) and made it so her boobs are showing through her armor.
He made a mostly-naked Teysa, and more, he even stole Steve Argyle's un-printed LotV artwork and apparently, as risque as it was, it wasn't sexy enough for this guy because her boobs are all but hanging out and she's wearing all but nothing...
The DCI and WotC have very big issues with that.
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Crossing the line regarding respect and good manners may lead to get an infraction, and usually people ignores where's the line until they've crossed it.
They're just so ugly. I shake my head every time I run into one of these on Ebay. Whatever..to each his own, I guess.
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This just in from Dave Rapoza -
"Theres always someone somewhere stealin D:
Lots of artists in here bein ripped off
http://www.abugames.com/card242383-425669/Batterskull---New-Phyrexia---Altered-Print-3.0---FOIL-Altered-Prints-Magic-The-Gathering-Single-Card.html"
From Dave Rapoza's Facebook feed. Altered Prints.com hasn't commissioned Dave Rapoza for this work and it is actually a licensed work from Applibot.
The funnier thing is, from ABUGames.
"Q: Will you do a commission for _________?
A: Sorry, neither ABUGames or AlteredPrints.com will accept commissions. This is to protect the rights of the numerous artists who have their artwork stolen by sleazy alteration companies, (look up any other prints on ebay. Those "prints" are stolen artwork placed on cards! Buying them not only supports crooks stealing artwork and trying to make a quick buck online, but YOU ARE LIABLE FOR PROSECUTION!"
That's in the header on the "Altered Prints" page.
Obviously, we can assume DR has contacts in the art community, I'm more willing to trust his and their words that they were not contacted in the use of these artworks, especially considering that the Work of Dave's that was used was actually a copyrighted work for another company.
These sleazy "altered print" companies just don't care who they have to stomp on to get their dollar, do they? Dave and other artists like him have had to fight tooth and nail just to get the money they're owed. It's not fair for some guy in a basement to use their works to make a quick buck.
Just figured i'd post this here since this thread is for discussion of AlteredPrints.com.
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And AlteredPrints just put this up on their Facebook page.
...I don't know if they have recently changed management, but it sounds like they're trying to cover their own hides and that the previous owners (if there are any) were simply trying to find a scapegoat...
EDIT: Daarken also had some things to say about ABUgames as well.
Yeah, that's not cool either...
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Hello to you too sir!
It's sad to hear about the poor state of these things, I think if you're purchasing a company, you'd have to do a bit of legwork to find out if everything was legitimate... Sounds like the new owners aren't good business people in my view.
I'm glad they're taking your works out of their inventory, it gives me some hope that they're sincere in their promise to do so.
Here's hoping everyone else whose work was stolen also contacts them.
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Sorry if I'm necroing a dead thread, but I was wondering if anyone had any updates about this site
I ran across them through an ebay listing and was considering trying to buy something from them, but I want to make sure the art is legitimate first
I wouldn't buy it, they inflate their prices for a relatively simple process of Print, cut, stick, sell...
I don't think you can link to ebay auctions on this site, but if you could post a pic of the item in question, then we might be able to help you out better.
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Personally, I wouldn't buy stuff from a company/group/dealer that used to plagiarize real artists' material.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOIL-FULL-ART-ALTER-PRINT-F-A-T-Liliana-of-the-Veil-Innistrad-Amazing-XMAS-Gift-/261351724253#ht_4162wt_1383
seems like "abugames" fiasco all over again lol.
But interestingly... as high quality as they claim these alters to be, if you look at the few real photographs... they are all in heavily played condition... the rest look like straight digital images LOLOLOL....
PS. oh and they quadrupled the price again... cough cough.... there goes my hope of ever getting one legally...
This is highly questionable on several other fronts, though.
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Time to go Nuclear. How about we spam every MTG group on facebook warning of his presence?
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I picked up the "Tamiyo Flower Girl" alter a couple years back, and I love that thing, and I'm trying to find more, but I can't find a place to buy a single card these guys worked on, not even second hand from another buyer.... wtf?
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Yeah, because some of the art he was using was stolen, so WotC put a stop to him.
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Well thats a shame. i didnt realize they were stealing art, so i get why... I really like that Tamiyo, though. *Snip*
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