Come on, a nerd forum and no mention of comic/anime conventions? That's the best place to meet cute nerdy chicks. If your college has nerdy clubs, that can work too.
The implication being that we prefer/have an easier time with those types of girls?
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Eh just be yourself and stick to things you enjoy always worked for me - and I don't believe I'm remotely trophy material. But yet letting women approach me I never went longer than a month between women since I started dating.
Perhaps my charisma carries me, because I was honestly a 4-5 at best during my peak.
And Sensei - that was only a slight mention but I'd suggest reading the mod comment on page 1, seems against his wishes for conversation to drift that ways.
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Come on, a nerd forum and no mention of comic/anime conventions? That's the best place to meet cute nerdy chicks. If your college has nerdy clubs, that can work too.
Generally, if I'm at such a place, meeting people isn't that high on my list of priorities. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but one's prospects wouldn't be that much better than normal.
Also, Sturgeon's Law applies there just as much as anywhere else.
The implication being that we prefer/have an easier time with those types of girls?
Obviously. As fellow nerds, we have more to relate to. Personally, I'd rather hook up with a Misty cosplayer at comic con than some drunk chick in a bar.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
Ummm, if you are in australia, going to the Uni bar at lunch time with a few friends that look like fun generally attracts people who want to share the booth with you. This allows you to meet new people and sometimes you get a good conversation and find someone who you like.
Ummm PAX AUS will be filled with girls who are nerds and that might be another way for you to find someone. but thats very different atmosphere.
The type of girls you meet in bars are generally the type of girls looking for a short burst of fun, like a one night stand. They just aren't the type of girls who are looking for a relationship, it's not the mentality of a bar-going girl.
He explained it in the rest of the quote. It makes sense. I don't know what's lol-y about it. I would never go to a nightclub and walk up to a girl and say, "Can I take you out to dinner sometime?"
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The type of girls you meet in bars are generally the type of girls looking for a short burst of fun, like a one night stand. They just aren't the type of girls who are looking for a relationship.
He explained it in the rest of the quote. It makes sense.
That's actually a pretty big generalization.
I think it's more important to say that the person a nerdy guy is looking for in a long-term relationship probably doesn't go to bars.
I think it's more important to say that the person a nerdy guy is looking for in a long-term relationship probably doesn't go to bars.
That's probably more true in this case than what I said, but regardless of how big my generalization is, I still don't think a guy would go to a bar and expect to find a dinner date there.
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That's probably more true in this case than what I said, but regardless of how big my generalization is, I still don't think a guy would go to a bar and expect to find a dinner date there.
This is totally untrue. People who go to bars: normal adults that want to get a drink. It depends on the bar, obviously, but normal adults meet other normal adults in bars. It's incredibly common to meet people as a result of that, and not just for a night.
The type of girls you meet in bars are generally the type of girls looking for a short burst of fun, like a one night stand. They just aren't the type of girls who are looking for a relationship, it's not the mentality of a bar-going girl.
He explained it in the rest of the quote. It makes sense. I don't know what's lol-y about it. I would never go to a nightclub and walk up to a girl and say, "Can I take you out to dinner sometime?"
This is misogynist. There is no type of a "bar-going girl."
This is totally untrue. People who go to bars: normal adults that want to get a drink. It depends on the bar, obviously, but normal adults meet other normal adults in bars. It's incredibly common to meet people as a result of that, and not just for a night.
This is misogynist. There is no type of a "bar-going girl."
Well I didn't mean to come across as misogynist. Most of the bars I'm familiar with don't have people looking to find a date or a long-term relationship in them, guy or girl. I guess I need to go to more bars.
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This thread is hilarious, not only for the bad advice, but the good advice that is regarded as bad advice.
So look, you are 20. Are you in school? Are there girls taking classes you like that seem to be interested in the same stuff you are? Ask them if you want to get together. It can be seemingly innocent to get together to do homework, but it can also open the door for you to get to know each other and explore each others interest. Then maybe ask if they want to go out sometime. Maybe you know of a great place to get food, or heard of some place you want to check out. I'm personally an artist, so I like going to museums and art galleries. These tend to be good first dates, as they are somewhat relaxing.
The truth is it's a lot easier to find someone to go out with then it is to find someone to have a serious relationship with. Most people want to do the same stuff when they go out: Dinner, movie/show, drinks, dancing, etc... It's a lot harder to find someone who wants to do the same stuff you want to do when your not going out. If you like to play video games, keep an eye out for a lady who also likes to play video games. If you like sports, look for someone who shares interest in the same sports you enjoy.
The best thing you can do when you meet someone new is to have confidence and not be a douche (although some women like the douche type, but those women aren't worth it imo). Don't try to show off. Just be yourself and be confident with the knowledge and interests that you are familiar with. And LISTEN. Women like men who are attentive to what they have to say. If they say something like "I like gummy bears" and the next time you see them you give her some gummy bears because you "remember how much she liked them", you are going to score some major points with her.
Well I didn't mean to come across as misogynist. Most of the bars I'm familiar with don't have people looking to find a date or a long-term relationship in them, guy or girl. I guess I need to go to more bars.
Do you know people that go to bars? I do. I go to bars. My magic-playing friends go to bars. My non-magic-playing friends go to bars. My extrovert friends go to bars. My shy friends go to bars. My single friends go to bars. My in-a-relationship friends go to bars. I don't mean to get my Dr Seuss on, but seriously, going to bars is just a normal social outing, so don't stereotype "Women That Go To Bars" as if it's a different grouping than "women of legal drinking age that go outside."
edit: getting dates is pretty easy (and fun). All you have to do is not be these guys. Treat women like people, have fun, be funny, be interesting.
I wouldn't say Frox's comment was misogynistic per se. It was stereotyping, to be sure, but "misogyny" is too harsh a term to describe it. Basically, the focus was more on the "go to bars" part than the "women" part, and I imagine the original sentiment would've held true with the genders reversed.
It really depends on the bar, there's many bars and many bars that do appeal to a quick fling type crowd. Look for someplace with regulars and you're less likely to be in a fling type place in my experience (although I abstain from alcohol, I did hang out with a lot of friends who drink over the years - and that seemed about the most common factor).
And I can definitely say that from my family, bars are definitely a place you can find a partner for life - sister and at least two of my female cousins met their hubbies at bars - if not more than that. (I don't generally prod how we met stories out of relatives - don't know how my bro met his wife for example)
A lot of stuff has already been covered. Basically just find someone and TALK. Don't get all nervious. Act like you just bowled 10 strikes, or w/e it is that gets you pumped up. Its an overused phrase but confidence works wonders. Nothing turns a girl off more than a guy fumbling over his own words and obviously neverous. Especially now that your 20 and getting with more mature women (i'm assuming). Its different than talking to high school girls.
and Facebook is amazing. Just get their name and friend them. I've found that getting their facebook is often more effective than a phone number. Though you can always ask for both or either.
"wow your awesome. Can I get your phone number of check you up on facebook?"
or if you don't get the chance but remember her name you can always wait a day and check her up on facebook without her permission. be like
"Hey you're that girl I met with the hat the other day. Remember me? *insurt name here* "
Well honestly I have found that people in bars are not looking for relationships but more stress relief of the most physical kind. But if thats what the OP was wanting then go for it I guess. But I will agree that its not the best place to look for something meaningful.
Well honestly I have found that people in bars are not looking for relationships but more stress relief of the most physical kind. But if thats what the OP was wanting then go for it I guess. But I will agree that its not the best place to look for something meaningful.
As others have said, that's an unfair generalization, based on personal experience. If you feel bars are not good places to meet people who can potentially turn into long term relationships, that's fine, but realize you are in the extreme minority.
I've found the lack of social skills the geek community tends to have are what make them condemn bars and clubs. They don't feel comfortable there, they have little success meeting people there, so they say all bares are filled with nothing but rednecks and floozies looking for cheap one nighters. It's pretty shallow, really.
Do you know people that go to bars? I do. I go to bars. My magic-playing friends go to bars. My non-magic-playing friends go to bars. My extrovert friends go to bars. My shy friends go to bars. My single friends go to bars. My in-a-relationship friends go to bars. I don't mean to get my Dr Seuss on, but seriously, going to bars is just a normal social outing, so don't stereotype "Women That Go To Bars" as if it's a different grouping than "women of legal drinking age that go outside."
edit: getting dates is pretty easy (and fun). All you have to do is not be these guys. Treat women like people, have fun, be funny, be interesting.
I tend to think that people who make negative statements about "drunk chicks at the bar", are the type of people the said "drunk chicks" would never talk to.
That in itself is an unfair generalization, but it makes the most sense otherwise. And then yes, you'll have to try the grocery store, library or internet dating instead.
Well I didn't mean to come across as misogynist. Most of the bars I'm familiar with don't have people looking to find a date or a long-term relationship in them, guy or girl. I guess I need to go to more bars.
Haha, I just know a decent amount of people who met their long-term Significant other at a Bar or at a party with a lot of drinking.
It's harder for us nerds to a imagine, as we typically don't go to or do that kind of thing, and thus only really have limited experience.
Right, so I'm single now. I've been so for about 2 or 3 months now. Also, I have a few friends who want to pick up girls too. By pick up, I mean meet girls who would are also looking out for guys to go on dates with.
The question is, how to do so? Where are the best places to find potential girlfriends?
I'm 20 and so are my friends in question. I'm assuming bars are better than clubs, as you can actually talk to people.
What is your advice?
Well, lets take this from a logical point of view. What qualities do you have to offer? Basically, what have you done that women would find attractive?
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Bars and clubs are NOT where you meet girlfriend material IMO.
thats where you find one night stands, "party animals", alcoholics etc.
Best places to find women would be places suck as the mall, walmart, grocery store, beaches, parks etc.
Wait wait wait. Bars and clubs are a no-go.but WALMART is acceptable?
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Theres been a minimal amount of "but nice guys like me deserve sex why do girl's only date asholes bawwwww" and a good amount of realism. Good progress guys.
The implication being that we prefer/have an easier time with those types of girls?
This book is really great. It will teach you some crazy tricks: what to say to women, how to throw other guys off their game, and where to find woman. <I'm sure if you look you can even find a torrent available.>
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Generally, if I'm at such a place, meeting people isn't that high on my list of priorities. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but one's prospects wouldn't be that much better than normal.
Also, Sturgeon's Law applies there just as much as anywhere else.
Obviously. As fellow nerds, we have more to relate to. Personally, I'd rather hook up with a Misty cosplayer at comic con than some drunk chick in a bar.
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Ummm PAX AUS will be filled with girls who are nerds and that might be another way for you to find someone. but thats very different atmosphere.
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He explained it in the rest of the quote. It makes sense. I don't know what's lol-y about it. I would never go to a nightclub and walk up to a girl and say, "Can I take you out to dinner sometime?"
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That's actually a pretty big generalization.
I think it's more important to say that the person a nerdy guy is looking for in a long-term relationship probably doesn't go to bars.
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This is totally untrue. People who go to bars: normal adults that want to get a drink. It depends on the bar, obviously, but normal adults meet other normal adults in bars. It's incredibly common to meet people as a result of that, and not just for a night.
This is misogynist. There is no type of a "bar-going girl."
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So look, you are 20. Are you in school? Are there girls taking classes you like that seem to be interested in the same stuff you are? Ask them if you want to get together. It can be seemingly innocent to get together to do homework, but it can also open the door for you to get to know each other and explore each others interest. Then maybe ask if they want to go out sometime. Maybe you know of a great place to get food, or heard of some place you want to check out. I'm personally an artist, so I like going to museums and art galleries. These tend to be good first dates, as they are somewhat relaxing.
The truth is it's a lot easier to find someone to go out with then it is to find someone to have a serious relationship with. Most people want to do the same stuff when they go out: Dinner, movie/show, drinks, dancing, etc... It's a lot harder to find someone who wants to do the same stuff you want to do when your not going out. If you like to play video games, keep an eye out for a lady who also likes to play video games. If you like sports, look for someone who shares interest in the same sports you enjoy.
The best thing you can do when you meet someone new is to have confidence and not be a douche (although some women like the douche type, but those women aren't worth it imo). Don't try to show off. Just be yourself and be confident with the knowledge and interests that you are familiar with. And LISTEN. Women like men who are attentive to what they have to say. If they say something like "I like gummy bears" and the next time you see them you give her some gummy bears because you "remember how much she liked them", you are going to score some major points with her.
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Do you know people that go to bars? I do. I go to bars. My magic-playing friends go to bars. My non-magic-playing friends go to bars. My extrovert friends go to bars. My shy friends go to bars. My single friends go to bars. My in-a-relationship friends go to bars. I don't mean to get my Dr Seuss on, but seriously, going to bars is just a normal social outing, so don't stereotype "Women That Go To Bars" as if it's a different grouping than "women of legal drinking age that go outside."
edit: getting dates is pretty easy (and fun). All you have to do is not be these guys. Treat women like people, have fun, be funny, be interesting.
And I can definitely say that from my family, bars are definitely a place you can find a partner for life - sister and at least two of my female cousins met their hubbies at bars - if not more than that. (I don't generally prod how we met stories out of relatives - don't know how my bro met his wife for example)
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and Facebook is amazing. Just get their name and friend them. I've found that getting their facebook is often more effective than a phone number. Though you can always ask for both or either.
"wow your awesome. Can I get your phone number of check you up on facebook?"
or if you don't get the chance but remember her name you can always wait a day and check her up on facebook without her permission. be like
"Hey you're that girl I met with the hat the other day. Remember me? *insurt name here* "
or something like that.
Well honestly I have found that people in bars are not looking for relationships but more stress relief of the most physical kind. But if thats what the OP was wanting then go for it I guess. But I will agree that its not the best place to look for something meaningful.
As others have said, that's an unfair generalization, based on personal experience. If you feel bars are not good places to meet people who can potentially turn into long term relationships, that's fine, but realize you are in the extreme minority.
I've found the lack of social skills the geek community tends to have are what make them condemn bars and clubs. They don't feel comfortable there, they have little success meeting people there, so they say all bares are filled with nothing but rednecks and floozies looking for cheap one nighters. It's pretty shallow, really.
I tend to think that people who make negative statements about "drunk chicks at the bar", are the type of people the said "drunk chicks" would never talk to.
That in itself is an unfair generalization, but it makes the most sense otherwise. And then yes, you'll have to try the grocery store, library or internet dating instead.
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Haha, I just know a decent amount of people who met their long-term Significant other at a Bar or at a party with a lot of drinking.
It's harder for us nerds to a imagine, as we typically don't go to or do that kind of thing, and thus only really have limited experience.
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You can meet a quick fling anywhere. Real life or online.
Well, lets take this from a logical point of view. What qualities do you have to offer? Basically, what have you done that women would find attractive?
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Wait wait wait. Bars and clubs are a no-go.but WALMART is acceptable?
Also.im proud of mtgs in this thread so far
Theres been a minimal amount of "but nice guys like me deserve sex why do girl's only date asholes bawwwww" and a good amount of realism. Good progress guys.