I think it's hilarious that people are complaining about this chick-fil-a company being against gay marriage. I thought that Americans lived in a country where every man, woman and child could speak their opinions and not be penalized for it. If there are companies supporting gay marriage but people that don't aren't allowed to be upset, then why is the opposite alright?
Nabisco supported gay marriage (by funding lobbyists for it). They caught flack for it, too.
Chik-fil-a funded lobbyists against gay marriage and are also catching flack for it.
So yes, everyone is speaking their mind. They however, are subjected to being boycotted just like any other company or business.
Anyone else impressed by how the employee handled this? She should get promoted to manager!
Of course, this guy was probably the 50th person to drive through the drive-through that day doing stupid crap like this >_<
This guy picked the wrong way to go about making his opinion known. I kind of feel like he knew he was just being a jerk even while the video was being made. I can't blame the boss for firing him but unfortunately his fame will probably result in him getting an even better job than he had before.
It seems that youtube is now on the cover. if you don't know or hadn't heard the CEO of chick-fil-a came out the other day and said that he supports marriage as one man one women. this falls in line with the traditional christain views of the company.
Gay bashing and persecution didn't get formalized with the church until the 1300's, prior to that it was whined about but had a bit of hand waving. Today it's outright bigotry to try and have the government socially engineer society to align itself with Christian values. Universal values, which many are Abrahamic values indeed, are ideally the best. The profits go to support anti-civil rights groups, which certain sanctions and actions are more than permissible.
A good man can pull together a well defined argument against the CEO and support civil rights, but being mean just plain mean to some employee working for a franchise, that could very well have a liberal at the helm, is ludicrous. I know people do stupid things as a way to "get back at a faceless company."
The "gay kissing day" and other forms of protest are within reason, a boycott is better but I digress. This man's actions are an abomination that correlate to bullying. Especially someone who doesn't earn a whole lot in fast food that doesn't set corporate policy...
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Of course, this guy was probably the 50th person to drive through the drive-through that day doing stupid crap like this >_<
Probably this. The others just weren't dumb enough to record it.
That plus I think working for that establishment makes you expect that sort of thing. Chik has a very rigorous interview. I wouldn't be surprised if an actual "do you support gay marriage" question is in it, and anyone who says "yes" isn't hired. Thus, the employees are people that know (and due to the recent issue) expect someone getting in their face because of it.
This guy picked the wrong way to go about making his opinion known. I kind of feel like he knew he was just being a jerk even while the video was being made. I can't blame the boss for firing him but unfortunately his fame will probably result in him getting an even better job than he had before.
I agree, in the same way Chik is posting record sales -- someone sympathetic will try to turn him into a hero of some sort.
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I can't blame the boss for firing him but unfortunately his fame will probably result in him getting an even better job than he had before.
not sure the only place higher you can go than CFO is CEO.
I wouldn't be surprised if an actual "do you support gay marriage" question is in it, and anyone who says "yes" isn't hired. Thus, the employees are people that know (and due to the recent issue) expect someone getting in their face because of it.
This would land them i major hot water with the law. In fact the person asking that question would probably get fired.
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The situation you posted about really isn't so much an internet thing, that was simply the vehicle for this idiocy, it has more to do with a company not wanting to be poorly represented by a jackass.
The drive-through harasser deserved to lose his job because, as a CFO, you are one of the figureheads of an organization. You represent the company with everything you do, and I don't blame a company for not wanting to have anything to do with him after he acted like such a jerk.
And now for some Oscar Wilde. "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."
I do not agree with the moral or political position of every store I patronize. I find that ignoring the ignorant speech is better than giving it value through confrontation. But, that's my opinion.
Company's sometimes have idiots for owners and managers (Chic-Fil-A). They also make a good product - or somebody already point out a good product of fast food in comparison. Waffle fries is good eating...
He was being annoying - but it's not like he was doing anything that outrageous. He wasn't yelling at her or raising his voice at her - he was stating an opinion about the company she's employed by and was being a pest by questioning why she worked there. Shouldn't be grounds for a dismissal though. He didn't stay for a good ten minutes and hammer the issue by parking and going inside after the drive-thru. "Thanks for the water - your company sucks?" C'mon!
Holding the entire Disney Corporation and their employees at fault because Walt had famously anti-semetic viewpoints and opinions is the same thing. I'm sure Disney is supporting some things that are for the traditional Christian viewpoint on marriage. They still put out good product on a regular basis though (all things Pixar and plenty of the advances they made in cinematography and cartoons).
Irony would be the fact that Disney wanted somewhere quality and clean to take his daughters on the weekends and on daddy-daughter day...that's where he got the idea for the theme park. Yet he was well known for not liking the Jews and had some pointed and antagonistic things to say about them. Where's that put Disney on the overall scope of dumb things its founder stood for? Some people have good, wholesome ideas and at the same time also hold horrible, abhorrent viewpoints.
I thought that Americans lived in a country where every man, woman and child could speak their opinions and not be penalized for it. If there are companies supporting gay marriage but people that don't aren't allowed to be upset, then why is the opposite alright?
thats why we allow canada to exist! so we have a back up country that stands for most of that and we can escape too should things in america become to hippocritical!
example being the slaves who fled north to canada a hundred years ago. one could say they pioneered the canada default trend for when america sucks! or they were ahead of there time!
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Because oppressing homosexual people is a Bad Thing and taking a stand in support for the liberation of oppressed groups is a Good Thing. Like, y'know??
Please take this to a different thread. That is not what this topic is about.
The topic is about how posting certain information on the internet can and will get you fired.
The CFO of a company drove into a chick-fil-a to harass a drive through worker. He taped it, put it on youtube. Got slammed by a million people. Before he could pull it down the CEO of his company saw it and fired him.
This is not the first time that people have gotten fired for posting things on the internet. In fact companies aren't hiring people due to things on their facebook pages.
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Why are people still making a big deal about the whole "Chick-fil-A's CEO came out saying he's against gay marriage"? We have bigger problems to worry about in this country... like the fact that we're $16 trillion in debt. Only in America do people ignore what will actually doom us.
Why are people still making a big deal about the whole "Chick-fil-A's CEO came out saying he's against gay marriage"? We have bigger problems to worry about in this country... like the fact that we're $16 trillion in debt. Only in America do people ignore what will actually doom us.
It's the media that blew this one out of proportions. The media is much more interested in covering controversial human rights topics than what's wrong with our government, and they feel we should think the same way.
Do you go on Yahoo or MSN often? The articles they put in the headlines are just ridiculous and don't focus on actual world problems at all. They blow these Chick-Fil-A type things way out of proportion and make them sound like bigger problems than $16 trillion of debt.
Just my observation, at least. I think the media is fully responsible for making people continue to talk about this Chick-Fil-A thing.
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Why are people still making a big deal about the whole "Chick-fil-A's CEO came out saying he's against gay marriage"? We have bigger problems to worry about in this country... like the fact that we're $16 trillion in debt. Only in America do people ignore what will actually doom us.
People aren't making a big deal out of him saying he doesn't support gay marriage. People are making a big deal about him donating to a lobbyist group that not only doesn't support it, but also supported the 'Kill the Gays' movement in Uganda. They're a hate group that supported killing people. That's worth (to some people) a boycott.
Civil Rights is an important issue. The debt crisis is also an important issue, but putting your blinders on to only focus on one issue is rather uh, stupid, i think.
There are plenty of bad things that you can say "Hey, this is worse! you people are dumb for not focusing on it!" But, that seems subjective to me. All the bad things deserve attention. Because all the bad things are bad.
Personally i think the state of our education system needs more attention, but i'm not going to stand on a pedestal and tell people they're ignoring the real issue.
What the Media has done with this is however, despicable. I'll agree with you on that.
I'd like to point out that its not that the company and its leaders are against gays that is the problem. I am a member of the LGBTQ community and I feel that he is entitled to his opinion as much as I am. The problem is the groups that he supports with his money.
Some of the "laudable" causes his donations support: Uganda's "Kill the Gays," Sexual orientation reassignment therapies (which most leading medical and psychological experts agree is mentally damaging), lobbyist groups that want to make kissing someone of the same sex a jail-able offense, etc.
That's the problem and I don't feel that any of that has been blown out of proportion; if anything, the media has spoken about the wrong parts of the problem.
Can someone explain what this chick-fill thing actually is? I agree that the guy behaved really bad, but I don't think it should be used as a reason to fire him.
What happened was a few weeks ago the CEO of chick-fil-a came out and said that he supports marriage as being one man and one women.
A position that he is perfectly entitled to take regardless of what you believe.
So all these pro-gay groups came out in a fit. needless to say chick-fil-a has done more business than ever over the issue.
the CFO of another company went through the drive-thru and began to jump all over the girl working there. He tape it and put it on youtube thinking to get publicity.
Well the fact is he got the publicity just not the kind he thought he would get. The video went viral and people all over the place were all over the guy for being an absolute jerk.
Needless to say the guys company and CEO saw the video and fired him for it.
My thing isn't so much the chick-fil-a issue as it is a growing issue tha corporations are now tracking their employee's internet posting even from home. People have been fired or not gotten positions over things they have posted on their face book pages.
now companies request any facebook pages you have.
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Nabisco supported gay marriage (by funding lobbyists for it). They caught flack for it, too.
Chik-fil-a funded lobbyists against gay marriage and are also catching flack for it.
So yes, everyone is speaking their mind. They however, are subjected to being boycotted just like any other company or business.
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Of course, this guy was probably the 50th person to drive through the drive-through that day doing stupid crap like this >_<
This guy picked the wrong way to go about making his opinion known. I kind of feel like he knew he was just being a jerk even while the video was being made. I can't blame the boss for firing him but unfortunately his fame will probably result in him getting an even better job than he had before.
Gay bashing and persecution didn't get formalized with the church until the 1300's, prior to that it was whined about but had a bit of hand waving. Today it's outright bigotry to try and have the government socially engineer society to align itself with Christian values. Universal values, which many are Abrahamic values indeed, are ideally the best. The profits go to support anti-civil rights groups, which certain sanctions and actions are more than permissible.
A good man can pull together a well defined argument against the CEO and support civil rights, but being mean just plain mean to some employee working for a franchise, that could very well have a liberal at the helm, is ludicrous. I know people do stupid things as a way to "get back at a faceless company."
The "gay kissing day" and other forms of protest are within reason, a boycott is better but I digress. This man's actions are an abomination that correlate to bullying. Especially someone who doesn't earn a whole lot in fast food that doesn't set corporate policy...
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Probably this. The others just weren't dumb enough to record it.
That plus I think working for that establishment makes you expect that sort of thing. Chik has a very rigorous interview. I wouldn't be surprised if an actual "do you support gay marriage" question is in it, and anyone who says "yes" isn't hired. Thus, the employees are people that know (and due to the recent issue) expect someone getting in their face because of it.
I agree, in the same way Chik is posting record sales -- someone sympathetic will try to turn him into a hero of some sort.
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not sure the only place higher you can go than CFO is CEO.
This would land them i major hot water with the law. In fact the person asking that question would probably get fired.
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The drive-through harasser deserved to lose his job because, as a CFO, you are one of the figureheads of an organization. You represent the company with everything you do, and I don't blame a company for not wanting to have anything to do with him after he acted like such a jerk.
I do not agree with the moral or political position of every store I patronize. I find that ignoring the ignorant speech is better than giving it value through confrontation. But, that's my opinion.
Company's sometimes have idiots for owners and managers (Chic-Fil-A). They also make a good product - or somebody already point out a good product of fast food in comparison. Waffle fries is good eating...
He was being annoying - but it's not like he was doing anything that outrageous. He wasn't yelling at her or raising his voice at her - he was stating an opinion about the company she's employed by and was being a pest by questioning why she worked there. Shouldn't be grounds for a dismissal though. He didn't stay for a good ten minutes and hammer the issue by parking and going inside after the drive-thru. "Thanks for the water - your company sucks?" C'mon!
Holding the entire Disney Corporation and their employees at fault because Walt had famously anti-semetic viewpoints and opinions is the same thing. I'm sure Disney is supporting some things that are for the traditional Christian viewpoint on marriage. They still put out good product on a regular basis though (all things Pixar and plenty of the advances they made in cinematography and cartoons).
Irony would be the fact that Disney wanted somewhere quality and clean to take his daughters on the weekends and on daddy-daughter day...that's where he got the idea for the theme park. Yet he was well known for not liking the Jews and had some pointed and antagonistic things to say about them. Where's that put Disney on the overall scope of dumb things its founder stood for? Some people have good, wholesome ideas and at the same time also hold horrible, abhorrent viewpoints.
thats why we allow canada to exist! so we have a back up country that stands for most of that and we can escape too should things in america become to hippocritical!
example being the slaves who fled north to canada a hundred years ago. one could say they pioneered the canada default trend for when america sucks! or they were ahead of there time!
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Please take this to a different thread. That is not what this topic is about.
The topic is about how posting certain information on the internet can and will get you fired.
The CFO of a company drove into a chick-fil-a to harass a drive through worker. He taped it, put it on youtube. Got slammed by a million people. Before he could pull it down the CEO of his company saw it and fired him.
This is not the first time that people have gotten fired for posting things on the internet. In fact companies aren't hiring people due to things on their facebook pages.
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Do you go on Yahoo or MSN often? The articles they put in the headlines are just ridiculous and don't focus on actual world problems at all. They blow these Chick-Fil-A type things way out of proportion and make them sound like bigger problems than $16 trillion of debt.
Just my observation, at least. I think the media is fully responsible for making people continue to talk about this Chick-Fil-A thing.
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People aren't making a big deal out of him saying he doesn't support gay marriage. People are making a big deal about him donating to a lobbyist group that not only doesn't support it, but also supported the 'Kill the Gays' movement in Uganda. They're a hate group that supported killing people. That's worth (to some people) a boycott.
Civil Rights is an important issue. The debt crisis is also an important issue, but putting your blinders on to only focus on one issue is rather uh, stupid, i think.
There are plenty of bad things that you can say "Hey, this is worse! you people are dumb for not focusing on it!" But, that seems subjective to me. All the bad things deserve attention. Because all the bad things are bad.
Personally i think the state of our education system needs more attention, but i'm not going to stand on a pedestal and tell people they're ignoring the real issue.
What the Media has done with this is however, despicable. I'll agree with you on that.
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Some of the "laudable" causes his donations support: Uganda's "Kill the Gays," Sexual orientation reassignment therapies (which most leading medical and psychological experts agree is mentally damaging), lobbyist groups that want to make kissing someone of the same sex a jail-able offense, etc.
That's the problem and I don't feel that any of that has been blown out of proportion; if anything, the media has spoken about the wrong parts of the problem.
What happened was a few weeks ago the CEO of chick-fil-a came out and said that he supports marriage as being one man and one women.
A position that he is perfectly entitled to take regardless of what you believe.
So all these pro-gay groups came out in a fit. needless to say chick-fil-a has done more business than ever over the issue.
the CFO of another company went through the drive-thru and began to jump all over the girl working there. He tape it and put it on youtube thinking to get publicity.
Well the fact is he got the publicity just not the kind he thought he would get. The video went viral and people all over the place were all over the guy for being an absolute jerk.
Needless to say the guys company and CEO saw the video and fired him for it.
My thing isn't so much the chick-fil-a issue as it is a growing issue tha corporations are now tracking their employee's internet posting even from home. People have been fired or not gotten positions over things they have posted on their face book pages.
now companies request any facebook pages you have.
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