But don't 2/3 of his non-ult abilities not interrupt auto attacks? And the other one is an AoE, it's still situationally usable for a DPS gain lategame, like buckshot is.
I don't think ezreal is weak either, it's just that people go blue build when they shouldn't and lose because of it.
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I actually think his laning is quite strong. The only AD's i've yet to lane against are Varus, Draven, Urgot and Quinn. And none of the matchups seem that hard, could be i'm just laning against bad AD's, but he's been an absolute lane bully in my hards. Also, his mana is not that bad, it's easily manageable.
He definitely plays different than other AD's, and the way i've been building him is more caster-esque than carry, but why should that matter? He still dishes out tons of dps in fights and takes down objectives better than most(Sheen plus passive just tears through towers). Saying he's a caster, not a carry means nothing. What of Ezreal? What of Graves? Corki? Varus? They have to spam their abilities to get full dps, does that mean they aren't adc's either?
But don't 2/3 of his non-ult abilities not interrupt auto attacks? And the other one is an AoE, it's still situationally usable for a DPS gain lategame, like buckshot is.
None of his abilities hamper his overall dps, q has a mild channel, similar to caitlyn q, but it has good scaling and is worth delaying an autoattack. It doesn't lower his dps if it does more damage than an auto.
Using an ability makes his next auto hit harder, arguing the opposite is what's foolish here.
Looks like mine last week. I swear, excluding Co-Op vs A.I. games, I had about 10 losses in a row. What league are you in, End?
This week, however, I've been doing pretty good.
I actually played a pretty crazy Normal last night.
I chose Nasus and figured I would be mid or top. Turns out, they thought I should be ADC. I also forgot to switch my masteries and summoner spells, so I had Supp masteries and Heal/Exhaust as my summoner spells, lol.
This is the breakdown..
Our Top was Renekton vs their (Hecarim at first, then Gangplank)
Mid was Draven vs Caitlynn.
Jungle was Nunu, their Aatrox was AFK
Bot was me (Nasus) and Sona vs their Ezreal and Gangplank, then Hecarim).
Gangplank got pretty fed, and could actually take on pretty much anyone, 1v1. Their Hecarim did pretty well, but for some reason, Ezreal seemed to have hardly any impact, damage wise...even when he hit me with his ult/abilities, they didn't do much dmg.
Anyways, we ended up winning. I was just baffled at how messed up some of the roles seemed to be. I really like how Nasus plays, though, and I'm thinking about buying him. I won 2 in a row with him.
Also...people say "Dat X" or whatever...is that a way of saying something or someone is bad?
The problem with Lucian isn't so much good or bad, but when do you pick him? The only thing he has over other adc is mobility due to W, E, and being able to retreat while ulting. But that isn't enough to pick him.
If you want dueling burst with mobility you are better off with Graves due to him having better AOE, more consistent steroids, and his smokescreen.
The only thing I could think of as a place for him is in a disengage comp to counter a hard engage team where you can keep Lucian in the back and dodge any assassin. But even then you are probably better off with a protect comp.
It's not that I think Lucian is bad, he's not, it's just that I am unsure if he has a place where another adc wouldn't be better.
If you're trying to disengage, Ashe, Varus and MF help disengage your whole team. Ezreal helps disengage your whole team via 1100 range aoe slows every 2 seconds or less while being almost as hard to track down as Lucian is.
Both Tristana and Vayne are as good as or better than Lucian at avoiding a single assassin, as they both have knockbacks and dash moves, and most good assassins can't be juked by just a single dash and will kill you before it resets if you don't get out of range.
Honestly, he's a cool champ and if the numbers on his stuff were better, he'd be really good. But all he brings to a fight is damage that is really hard to shut down. To make that worth it, the damage needs to be really good, and it just... isn't.
Looks like mine last week. I swear, excluding Co-Op vs A.I. games, I had about 10 losses in a row. What league are you in, End?
This week, however, I've been doing pretty good.
I actually played a pretty crazy Normal last night.
I chose Nasus and figured I would be mid or top. Turns out, they thought I should be ADC. I also forgot to switch my masteries and summoner spells, so I had Supp masteries and Heal/Exhaust as my summoner spells, lol.
This is the breakdown..
Our Top was Renekton vs their (Hecarim at first, then Gangplank)
Mid was Draven vs Caitlynn.
Jungle was Nunu, their Aatrox was AFK
Bot was me (Nasus) and Sona vs their Ezreal and Gangplank, then Hecarim).
Gangplank got pretty fed, and could actually take on pretty much anyone, 1v1. Their Hecarim did pretty well, but for some reason, Ezreal seemed to have hardly any impact, damage wise...even when he hit me with his ult/abilities, they didn't do much dmg.
Anyways, we ended up winning. I was just baffled at how messed up some of the roles seemed to be. I really like how Nasus plays, though, and I'm thinking about buying him. I won 2 in a row with him.
Also...people say "Dat X" or whatever...is that a way of saying something or someone is bad?
Looks like Riot has some Dominion and TT-only changes to certain champs up on their test server. I guess they've finally given up on item-based balancing and opened up the door for map-specific champion balancing.
On one hand, hooray, maybe these modes will finally get some serious balance attention.
On the other hand, this is going to get really confusing if you regularly play multiple game modes.
Had around 500 rp sitting around, so I decided to buy Rocket Girl Trist. I've only played one game with it so far, but goddamn I love this skin. It makes me feel like i'm actually good at Trist(that, and the godlike Thresh I laned with).
Currently on a fairly nice winstreak, only one loss in my match history.
I'm scared of top lane, I used to do well with Irelia, but then I figured out my win rate in ranked was like 20% with her. Haven't been top since.
Also, I'm jungling Darius. I tend to do well with random junglers but no one wants to see that in ranked.
Who cares
If you guys win thanks to you, they won't complain
P.S, I've seen a nami jungle, so Darius jungle isn't too odd of a pick. I also play ADC ahri and Support anivia, so you've seen everything
should't try ADC ahri in dominion, I lost because of it and did really bad. Stick to AP ahri.
Now gonna try Vladmir Top AND jungle This will be hilarious with the random hemphagues out of nowhere
Darius jungle was strong earlier in the season, for sure. I think the limited jungle gold stream really hurts him now, as with Vi and Xin Zhao, but it's workable.
I was hoping to get some opinions on the team comp/roles I had last night.
I felt it was a bit off, but let me know what you think..
Top; Renekton vs Gangplank (this is actually correct, I think)
Mid: Darius vs Caitlyn (shouldn't these be ADC?)
Bot: Nasus/Sona vs Ezreal/Hecarim
Jungle Nunu/ Aatrox AFK
I feel a few people were out of place, and I'm not sure why both teams sent their ADC mid. Also the enemy team didn't seem to have a good supp. I'm honestly not sure if it was EZ or Hec.
So just had my first game supporting a Lucian, I was playing Nami, so Nami/Lucian and we played against an Ashe/Alistar. Simply put as long as we dodged Ashe's ult we could easily pick/choose when we would fight, and how long the fight would go on. The speed boost that Lucian has, coupled with Nami's speed boosts and CC, just gave us a sick degree of control even with Ali hitting every Headbutt+Pulverize combo from there we could just kite all day, or force the fight head on while dodging pretty much everything that wasn't an AA. The one downside to the match-up though is while I though his passive would be awesome with Nami's E it's actually the opposite, since he uses 2 of the 3 charges in that AA you end up only getting around 2 seconds of slow instead of the full 3 but with the speed of the two it wasn't a huge deal.
Should be fun to see how he continues to pair up with other supports, thinking a Sona/Thresh/Zyra would all be really good as they have tons of CC to make enemies just face tank his ult unless they have flash or a dash. Even then the potential poke/trading of a Sona/Lucian Zyra/Lucian, or Lulu/Lucian just seems rather silly, hell now that I think about it I wonder if Lulu's "help pix" shield would also proc 2 volleys of the steroid when Lucian uses his passive, he already trades really well that could make things even more silly.
I though his passive would be awesome with Nami's E it's actually the opposite, since he uses 2 of the 3 charges in that AA you end up only getting around 2 seconds of slow instead of the full 3 but with the speed of the two it wasn't a huge deal.
When I laned with a Nami the other day his passive only consumed one charge, I remember it clearly because I was surprised it didn't consume two. Now i'm all kinds of confused.
Now gonna try Vladmir Top AND jungle This will be hilarious with the random hemphagues out of nowhere
He can't jungle, don't even try. His only AoE, although spammable, costs too much health, and he has nothing else going for it like an AS steroid or anything. Pretty sure he can't even realistically survive a smiteless buff -> 2nd buff with the right runes. He is good mid though.
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I don't think ezreal is weak either, it's just that people go blue build when they shouldn't and lose because of it.
He definitely plays different than other AD's, and the way i've been building him is more caster-esque than carry, but why should that matter? He still dishes out tons of dps in fights and takes down objectives better than most(Sheen plus passive just tears through towers). Saying he's a caster, not a carry means nothing. What of Ezreal? What of Graves? Corki? Varus? They have to spam their abilities to get full dps, does that mean they aren't adc's either?
None of his abilities hamper his overall dps, q has a mild channel, similar to caitlyn q, but it has good scaling and is worth delaying an autoattack. It doesn't lower his dps if it does more damage than an auto.
Using an ability makes his next auto hit harder, arguing the opposite is what's foolish here.
and Gonna try LeBlanc and Vlad on free week :D.
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LOL, what'sup with that?
Looks like mine last week. I swear, excluding Co-Op vs A.I. games, I had about 10 losses in a row. What league are you in, End?
This week, however, I've been doing pretty good.
I actually played a pretty crazy Normal last night.
I chose Nasus and figured I would be mid or top. Turns out, they thought I should be ADC. I also forgot to switch my masteries and summoner spells, so I had Supp masteries and Heal/Exhaust as my summoner spells, lol.
This is the breakdown..
Our Top was Renekton vs their (Hecarim at first, then Gangplank)
Mid was Draven vs Caitlynn.
Jungle was Nunu, their Aatrox was AFK
Bot was me (Nasus) and Sona vs their Ezreal and Gangplank, then Hecarim).
Gangplank got pretty fed, and could actually take on pretty much anyone, 1v1. Their Hecarim did pretty well, but for some reason, Ezreal seemed to have hardly any impact, damage wise...even when he hit me with his ult/abilities, they didn't do much dmg.
Anyways, we ended up winning. I was just baffled at how messed up some of the roles seemed to be. I really like how Nasus plays, though, and I'm thinking about buying him. I won 2 in a row with him.
Also...people say "Dat X" or whatever...is that a way of saying something or someone is bad?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
on the bright side, Darius got you 20 kills
Thanks Argentleman;)
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If you're trying to disengage, Ashe, Varus and MF help disengage your whole team. Ezreal helps disengage your whole team via 1100 range aoe slows every 2 seconds or less while being almost as hard to track down as Lucian is.
Both Tristana and Vayne are as good as or better than Lucian at avoiding a single assassin, as they both have knockbacks and dash moves, and most good assassins can't be juked by just a single dash and will kill you before it resets if you don't get out of range.
Honestly, he's a cool champ and if the numbers on his stuff were better, he'd be really good. But all he brings to a fight is damage that is really hard to shut down. To make that worth it, the damage needs to be really good, and it just... isn't.
I think my last like 7-8 ranked games were loses. I was in silver 1 at one point, lost into silver 2, decayed to silver 3, and haven won since.
Dat X is like wow, look at that X, it's nice. "Dat ass"
I'm in silver 3, Voli's something. Slowly making my way to silver 4.
Maybe you should try Darius in Ranked...You did well with him normal
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I'm scared of top lane, I used to do well with Irelia, but then I figured out my win rate in ranked was like 20% with her. Haven't been top since.
Also, I'm jungling Darius. I tend to do well with random junglers but no one wants to see that in ranked.
On one hand, hooray, maybe these modes will finally get some serious balance attention.
On the other hand, this is going to get really confusing if you regularly play multiple game modes.
Currently on a fairly nice winstreak, only one loss in my match history.
3.5 k, 1.3k left
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Who cares
If you guys win thanks to you, they won't complain
P.S, I've seen a nami jungle, so Darius jungle isn't too odd of a pick. I also play ADC ahri and Support anivia, so you've seen everything
should't try ADC ahri in dominion, I lost because of it and did really bad. Stick to AP ahri.
Now gonna try Vladmir Top AND jungle This will be hilarious with the random hemphagues out of nowhere
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I felt it was a bit off, but let me know what you think..
Top; Renekton vs Gangplank (this is actually correct, I think)
Mid: Darius vs Caitlyn (shouldn't these be ADC?)
Bot: Nasus/Sona vs Ezreal/Hecarim
Jungle Nunu/ Aatrox AFK
I feel a few people were out of place, and I'm not sure why both teams sent their ADC mid. Also the enemy team didn't seem to have a good supp. I'm honestly not sure if it was EZ or Hec.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
Should be fun to see how he continues to pair up with other supports, thinking a Sona/Thresh/Zyra would all be really good as they have tons of CC to make enemies just face tank his ult unless they have flash or a dash. Even then the potential poke/trading of a Sona/Lucian Zyra/Lucian, or Lulu/Lucian just seems rather silly, hell now that I think about it I wonder if Lulu's "help pix" shield would also proc 2 volleys of the steroid when Lucian uses his passive, he already trades really well that could make things even more silly.
When I laned with a Nami the other day his passive only consumed one charge, I remember it clearly because I was surprised it didn't consume two. Now i'm all kinds of confused.