I'd like to apologize for not being around much lately. Unfortunately, my best friend, and owner of my lgs, decided to take his life last week, and it's been a hard road coming back. Today we received his personal belongings, so I feel like it's finally done.
Hopefully I'll be around a lot more now.
Ryan
Tough thing, man. Sorry for your loss, and hope you're doing well outside of it. No apology necessary, priorities understood. Take care of you and yours.
Luckily, we have an amazing gaming community here, and the support for each other has been amazing.
Very good to hear. Makes me look around and appreciate the people in my group.
Back to the Izzet, here's my idea for Niv...
Niv-Mizzet, the Cruel 2UR
+1: Scry 2, Draw a card
-3: Deal damage to target creature or player equal to the number of cards drawn this turn.
-6: You get an emblem with "whenever you draw a card, you may deal 1 damage to target creature or player."
Loyalty: 4
The only complaint I have about this design is it teams up with Jace 2.0 to make the sickest duo ever (arguably sicker than Gideon IMHO). Might as well have the art feature Jace riding Niv's back like Treasure Mage or perhaps NPH on a unicorn. Then again I would love having a Consecrated Sphinx in play with this emblem. lol
I just remembered my idea to use an Eternal Dominion-like ultimate. How's this:
Niv-Mizzet the Prodigal :2mana::symu::symu::symr::symr:
Planeswalker - Niv-Mizzet [M]
[+2]: Niv-Mizzet, the Prodigal deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two target creatures and/or players. Draw a card.
[-X]: Search your library for a blue or red instant card with converted mana cost X or less and cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then shuffle your library.
[-7]: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your upkeep, search target player's library for a card and play it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste. Then that player shuffles his or her library." {4}
I'm trying to think of how to garner votes from those approaching our design and comparing it to their own entry and real, printed 'walkers. In that light, two suggestions:
1) Whatever we design should have a way to protect itself. All the best PW's do. The +2 ability of this one works on that level for me, although its only so effective.
2) The highest CMC of a "good" PW in the general consensus is 5. Can we make sure to be somewhere between 3 and 5 so we don't get rejected and placed in the Sorin/Chandra Ablaze pile? Or if we go more expensive that we jack the power level up and attribute it to being logical with comparison to the other dragon 'walker?
I'm trying to think of how to garner votes from those approaching our design and comparing it to their own entry and real, printed 'walkers. In that light, two suggestions:
1) Whatever we design should have a way to protect itself. All the best PW's do. The +2 ability of this one works on that level for me, although its only so effective.
2) The highest CMC of a "good" PW in the general consensus is 5. Can we make sure to be somewhere between 3 and 5 so we don't get rejected and placed in the Sorin/Chandra Ablaze pile? Or if we go more expensive that we jack the power level up and attribute it to being logical with comparison to the other dragon 'walker?
1. I changed the second ability so now you can just remove any threat you want.
2. While true, it's hard to justify reducing his cost after ascension. Look at Venser: He even costs more than before. Almost every PW we've seen has gotten more expensive (Chandra, Jace, Sarkhan, Elspeth) or stayed at the same CMC (Ajani) with later incarnations. The only exception is Tezzeret. We can discuss this some more in the coming days.
3. The more I think about it, the more I think we'll lose points for choosing Niv-Mizzet. It looks like a whole 1/3 of the rating is based on our choice of legendary creature, and I doubt anyone would give us a perfect score for our "obvious" choice. I think I'm going to change my vote to "someone else."
What if we did Tibor and Lumina, but made three walkers instead of one, and templated it such that you couldn't have "Tibor" and "Tibor and Lumina" both out at the same time, but you could have "Tibor" and "Lumina" at the same time. I know the contest says to make 1, but if they want to be strict they could just judge us on the "Tibor and Lumina" card.
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3. The more I think about it, the more I think we'll lose points for choosing Niv-Mizzet. It looks like a whole 1/3 of the rating is based on our choice of legendary creature, and I doubt anyone would give us a perfect score for our "obvious" choice. I think I'm going to change my vote to "someone else."
Add me to the Someone else, too, for the same reason. And perhaps the Vorthosian clan mates wanting to write the backstory should stear us toward who they prefer to write about?
Also, any suggestions toward art, or volunteers to build the card? If anyone has the card production software already, speak up yo!
I'd like to apologize for not being around much lately. Unfortunately, my best friend, and owner of my lgs, decided to take his life last week, and it's been a hard road coming back. Today we received his personal belongings, so I feel like it's finally done.
Hopefully I'll be around a lot more now.
Ryan
I feel for you man, it's a terrible feeling losing a close friend.
Niv-Mizzet the Prodigal :2mana::symu::symu::symr::symr:
Planeswalker - Niv-Mizzet [M]
[+2]: Niv-Mizzet, the Prodigal deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two target creatures and/or players. Draw a card.
[-2]: Target permanent's owner shuffles it into his or her library.
[-7]: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your upkeep, search target player's library for a card and play it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste. Then that player shuffles his or her library." {4}
EDIT: A [+2] Electrolyze is probably impossible for some aggro decks to beat, so I lowered the costs on the first and ultimate abilities. (EDIT 2: Changed back.) Also, the second ability was too similar to the new ultimate, so I came up with something a little spicier that happens to be synergistic with the ultimate. (EDIT 2: Removed "nonland.") Thoughts?
I like the ultimate quite a bit, I think it should be the one we use for our submission, it's a chaotic and powerful ultimate, exactly what we should be looking for.
2) The highest CMC of a "good" PW in the general consensus is 5. Can we make sure to be somewhere between 3 and 5 so we don't get rejected and placed in the Sorin/Chandra Ablaze pile? Or if we go more expensive that we jack the power level up and attribute it to being logical with comparison to the other dragon 'walker?
We're not creating a planeswalker with the intent of making it constructed viable, we're trying to make a flavorful, creative, and balanced(Yet still powerful) planeswalker. If we're looking for a planeswalker with sheer power, then yes, it should cost 5 or less, but we're just looking to be creative and fun.
3. The more I think about it, the more I think we'll lose points for choosing Niv-Mizzet. It looks like a whole 1/3 of the rating is based on our choice of legendary creature, and I doubt anyone would give us a perfect score for our "obvious" choice. I think I'm going to change my vote to "someone else."
Exactly what I was thinking. Sure it may look creative and fun to us, but it just looks obvious and boring to the people who judge it, and that's not good.
What if we did Tibor and Lumina, but made three walkers instead of one, and templated it such that you couldn't have "Tibor" and "Tibor and Lumina" both out at the same time, but you could have "Tibor" and "Lumina" at the same time. I know the contest says to make 1, but if they want to be strict they could just judge us on the "Tibor and Lumina" card.
I don't really like the idea too much, making multiple cards is against the rules, and making a planeswalker card with a duo of people feels wrong flavorwise. I don't want people to subtract points for that.
What if we did Tibor and Lumina, but made three walkers instead of one, and templated it such that you couldn't have "Tibor" and "Tibor and Lumina" both out at the same time, but you could have "Tibor" and "Lumina" at the same time. I know the contest says to make 1, but if they want to be strict they could just judge us on the "Tibor and Lumina" card.
*puts on his Complicated Cap*
Zo what eef we make zee card a zort of fleep card...?
*slaps self to clear head*
Without accent: How about a flip style card with Tibor on one side with 2 abilities, and Lumia on the other with 2 abilities.... Instead of the card changing at some achievement, it can be cast as either card like a Boom // Bust split card. Or is that too much to chew? :munch::cookie: *BOOM!!*
We're not creating a planeswalker with the intent of making it constructed viable, we're trying to make a flavorful, creative, and balanced(Yet still powerful) planeswalker. If we're looking for a planeswalker with sheer power, then yes, it should cost 5 or less, but we're just looking to be creative and fun.
I see what you're saying, but again, we're being voted upon by a jury of our peers. I think Nissa Revane is fun, and I think Sarkhan Vol is fun, but neither are considered good. The entry/candidate should be something that doesn't get rejected for simple things like holding a pen in his right hand all the time and refering to himself in the 3rd person.
EDIT: P.S. My girl is razzing me for taking this too seriously. And she's right! *deep breath* Ok ok, down boy!
So I used to be in the REPRINT FoW camp, but now I'm not. Why? Because I just ponied up $300 for a playset :| They better not reprint them and bring the price down...
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I am with you man! Its always sad to see good people go when its not thier time.
@ Zajnet, about Tibor and Lumina I don't think that will do ( even with Artifice's bright idea:rolleyes: . The Mods are strict.
@ I vote into Niz Mizzet camp ( practically he forced us to pick him based on Izzet traits lol)
@ Neon Lights : What can I say so Goblin Sheginan like LOL I mean unpredicatible. Hopefully your next comp won't suffer thy fate!
I'd like to apologize for not being around much lately. Unfortunately, my best friend, and owner of my lgs, decided to take his life last week, and it's been a hard road coming back. Today we received his personal belongings, so I feel like it's finally done.
Hopefully I'll be around a lot more now.
Ryan
Man, that's rough. Hope you're feeling better, it's tough when you lose a close buddy.
Ryan, I am very sad to hear your good friend decided to take his life. The fact that he was also your LGS owner just makes it so everyone has to suffer. My sincere thoughts and prayers go out to you.
@ Zajnet: Force isn't on the Reserved list. Wizards has all the power in the world to reprint that card whenever they wish. I hate to say this, but Magic cards were designed to be played with, not be stock portfolios.
@ Zajnet: Force isn't on the Reserved list. Wizards has all the power in the world to reprint that card whenever they wish. I hate to say this, but Magic cards were designed to be played with, not be stock portfolios.
I agree wholeheartedly. Garfield has stated that he doesn't like very expensive cards, we wants new cards to be 20$ at most and appreciate in value, similar to stamps. Now that Garfield is on the new design team for Innistrad, hopefully we wont have some OMGUS 50 dollar out of the gate cards, which would be nice.
I wouldn't be against a FoW reprint, but it would have to be in a product. I can't imagine a standard with it reprinted given that they would warp the format in development to make sure it didn't take over. Something with bad draw in blue (not unlike what we have now, but potentially worse) and bad counters otherwise.
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Hi everyone, hope all are doing well :). Sorry I haven't been around..Not being into magic=not too interested in magic related sites :P. I do come around to see you guys and I pester a few of you in pm ;P. Most of the time I just lurk though.
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Hello one and all from your Favorite Time Mage!!! Just thought i would stop in and say hello to all of my favorite old clanmates even though it seems most of the ppl i talked to when i was here are now gone. I miss you all!
WOW, it's been a while since you have been here. I am your successor of the High Mage of Time Manipulation (Chronomancy).
Niv-Mizzet the Prodigal :2mana::symu::symu::symr::symr:
Planeswalker - Niv-Mizzet [M]
[+2]: Niv-Mizzet, the Prodigal deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two target creatures and/or players. Draw a card.
[-2]: Target permanent's owner shuffles it into his or her library.
[-7]: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your upkeep, search target player's library for a card and play it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste. Then that player shuffles his or her library." {4}
EDIT: A [+2] Electrolyze is probably impossible for some aggro decks to beat, so I lowered the costs on the first and ultimate abilities. (EDIT 2: Changed back.) Also, the second ability was too similar to the new ultimate, so I came up with something a little spicier that happens to be synergistic with the ultimate. (EDIT 2: Removed "nonland.") Thoughts?
Just noticed these edits, and I like!
These abilities seem sick. Much more on par with a dragon planeswalker. The ultimate is backbreaking, but also potentially survivable; the middle ability is crazy "lando" but makes Niv very easy to get rid of; the first ability is solid and flavorful and at 6 mana completely justified. Makes the higher mana cost I was complaining about much more understandable. I dig.
Last question: Why "The Prodigal?" Not sure what it means in this context. I'll admit my ignorance as to Niv's status in the cannon of M:tg fiction atm.
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Can anyone recommend me a good brand of laptop to buy? ._.
I'm not computer-oriented at all >_<
Sony- Expensive, nice tech support 15 - 19 inch screen.
Dell- moderate but if you need change drivers a hassle.
Toshiba - I personally use a Satelite A 205-S4617 ( no complaints yet) Driver updates found on website
Panasoinc- Expensive
HP -NEVER GET A HOWARD PACKER. will burn almost instantly
Acer: moderate but need constant tech support.
Mac: Don't know
Hope that helps
feel free to pm or email if you have further questions.
Sony- Expensive, nice tech support 15 - 19 inch screen.
Dell- moderate but if you need change drivers a hassle.
Toshiba - I personally use a Satelite A 205-S4617 ( no complaints yet) Driver updates found on website
Panasoinc- Expensive
HP -NEVER GET A HOWARD PACKER. will burn almost instantly
Acer: moderate but need constant tech support.
Mac: Don't know
Hope that helps
feel free to pm or email if you have further questions.
To add my own experiences to this:
NEVER GET A HP EVER
I've had a Toshiba and a Sony VAIO and they're both solid laptops.
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Hello one and all from your Favorite Time Mage!!! Just thought i would stop in and say hello to all of my favorite old clanmates even though it seems most of the ppl i talked to when i was here are now gone. I miss you all!
Hey man, it's been a while. It's always nice to see an old friend after so long, how've you been man?
Hi everyone, hope all are doing well :). Sorry I haven't been around..Not being into magic=not too interested in magic related sites :P. I do come around to see you guys and I pester a few of you in pm ;P. Most of the time I just lurk though.
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Hallo Zazi, you really need to poke your head in here more often:p
These abilities seem sick. Much more on par with a dragon planeswalker. The ultimate is backbreaking, but also potentially survivable; the middle ability is crazy "lando" but makes Niv very easy to get rid of; the first ability is solid and flavorful and at 6 mana completely justified. Makes the higher mana cost I was complaining about much more understandable. I dig.
I must say, I like that planeswalker the best out of all the ones we've made.
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Tough thing, man. Sorry for your loss, and hope you're doing well outside of it. No apology necessary, priorities understood. Take care of you and yours.
Very good to hear. Makes me look around and appreciate the people in my group.
The only complaint I have about this design is it teams up with Jace 2.0 to make the sickest duo ever (arguably sicker than Gideon IMHO). Might as well have the art feature Jace riding Niv's back like Treasure Mage or perhaps NPH on a unicorn. Then again I would love having a Consecrated Sphinx in play with this emblem. lol
In a vacuum, not stupidly overpowered.
I'm trying to think of how to garner votes from those approaching our design and comparing it to their own entry and real, printed 'walkers. In that light, two suggestions:
1) Whatever we design should have a way to protect itself. All the best PW's do. The +2 ability of this one works on that level for me, although its only so effective.
2) The highest CMC of a "good" PW in the general consensus is 5. Can we make sure to be somewhere between 3 and 5 so we don't get rejected and placed in the Sorin/Chandra Ablaze pile? Or if we go more expensive that we jack the power level up and attribute it to being logical with comparison to the other dragon 'walker?
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1. I changed the second ability so now you can just remove any threat you want.
2. While true, it's hard to justify reducing his cost after ascension. Look at Venser: He even costs more than before. Almost every PW we've seen has gotten more expensive (Chandra, Jace, Sarkhan, Elspeth) or stayed at the same CMC (Ajani) with later incarnations. The only exception is Tezzeret. We can discuss this some more in the coming days.
3. The more I think about it, the more I think we'll lose points for choosing Niv-Mizzet. It looks like a whole 1/3 of the rating is based on our choice of legendary creature, and I doubt anyone would give us a perfect score for our "obvious" choice. I think I'm going to change my vote to "someone else."
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Add me to the Someone else, too, for the same reason. And perhaps the Vorthosian clan mates wanting to write the backstory should stear us toward who they prefer to write about?
Also, any suggestions toward art, or volunteers to build the card? If anyone has the card production software already, speak up yo!
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I feel for you man, it's a terrible feeling losing a close friend.
I like the ultimate quite a bit, I think it should be the one we use for our submission, it's a chaotic and powerful ultimate, exactly what we should be looking for.
We're not creating a planeswalker with the intent of making it constructed viable, we're trying to make a flavorful, creative, and balanced(Yet still powerful) planeswalker. If we're looking for a planeswalker with sheer power, then yes, it should cost 5 or less, but we're just looking to be creative and fun.
Exactly what I was thinking. Sure it may look creative and fun to us, but it just looks obvious and boring to the people who judge it, and that's not good.
I don't really like the idea too much, making multiple cards is against the rules, and making a planeswalker card with a duo of people feels wrong flavorwise. I don't want people to subtract points for that.
Gah, what did I tell you about running experiments outside the lab?
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*puts on his Complicated Cap*
Zo what eef we make zee card a zort of fleep card...?
*slaps self to clear head*
Without accent: How about a flip style card with Tibor on one side with 2 abilities, and Lumia on the other with 2 abilities.... Instead of the card changing at some achievement, it can be cast as either card like a Boom // Bust split card. Or is that too much to chew? :munch::cookie: *BOOM!!*
I see what you're saying, but again, we're being voted upon by a jury of our peers. I think Nissa Revane is fun, and I think Sarkhan Vol is fun, but neither are considered good. The entry/candidate should be something that doesn't get rejected for simple things like holding a pen in his right hand all the time and refering to himself in the 3rd person.
EDIT: P.S. My girl is razzing me for taking this too seriously. And she's right! *deep breath* Ok ok, down boy!
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I am with you man! Its always sad to see good people go when its not thier time.
@ Zajnet, about Tibor and Lumina I don't think that will do ( even with Artifice's bright idea:rolleyes: . The Mods are strict.
@ I vote into Niz Mizzet camp ( practically he forced us to pick him based on Izzet traits lol)
@ Neon Lights : What can I say so Goblin Sheginan like LOL I mean unpredicatible. Hopefully your next comp won't suffer thy fate!
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Man, that's rough. Hope you're feeling better, it's tough when you lose a close buddy.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Garfield has stated that he doesn't like very expensive cards, we wants new cards to be 20$ at most and appreciate in value, similar to stamps. Now that Garfield is on the new design team for Innistrad, hopefully we wont have some OMGUS 50 dollar out of the gate cards, which would be nice.
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Hi everyone, hope all are doing well :). Sorry I haven't been around..Not being into magic=not too interested in magic related sites :P. I do come around to see you guys and I pester a few of you in pm ;P. Most of the time I just lurk though.
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WOW, it's been a while since you have been here. I am your successor of the High Mage of Time Manipulation (Chronomancy).
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Just noticed these edits, and I like!
These abilities seem sick. Much more on par with a dragon planeswalker. The ultimate is backbreaking, but also potentially survivable; the middle ability is crazy "lando" but makes Niv very easy to get rid of; the first ability is solid and flavorful and at 6 mana completely justified. Makes the higher mana cost I was complaining about much more understandable. I dig.
Last question: Why "The Prodigal?" Not sure what it means in this context. I'll admit my ignorance as to Niv's status in the cannon of M:tg fiction atm.
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I'm not computer-oriented at all >_<
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Sony- Expensive, nice tech support 15 - 19 inch screen.
Dell- moderate but if you need change drivers a hassle.
Toshiba - I personally use a Satelite A 205-S4617 ( no complaints yet) Driver updates found on website
Panasoinc- Expensive
HP -NEVER GET A HOWARD PACKER. will burn almost instantly
Acer: moderate but need constant tech support.
Mac: Don't know
Hope that helps
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To add my own experiences to this:
NEVER GET A HP EVER
I've had a Toshiba and a Sony VAIO and they're both solid laptops.
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HP's are the biggest waste ever. I bought 2, and they both are in the trash, don't waste your time.
Dell's are decent grab a Toshiba.
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Hey man, it's been a while. It's always nice to see an old friend after so long, how've you been man?
Hallo Zazi, you really need to poke your head in here more often:p
I must say, I like that planeswalker the best out of all the ones we've made.