Goths do nothing but bother me. They are so whiny. As if their lives are so bad! None of ours are! Listen: If they can afford to mosy on over to the "Hot Topic" and buy $60 pants with belts and chains, then they got it good enough.
WiLL and I have been speaking over the past week about the possibility of myself or another member of the Greek Alliance leaving. I left the Greek Alliance today, and the possibility of joining PM intriques me...
Will OK'd the idea, but what do you all think to me joining up?
check the siggy, itll be all new soon
Yo!
Nice to see ye!
I do like the idea as ixi is awesome. w00t and stuff
Today, I felt like ****, so after I got home, I ate dinner, and napped... and just woke up. -_-
Goths do nothing but bother me. They are so whiny. As if their lives are so bad! None of ours are! Listen: If they can afford to mosy on over to the "Hot Topic" and buy $60 pants with belts and chains, then they got it good enough.
I'm in America, so I dunno about the Euro-Goths. Emos I hate too. You'd actually be surprised how similar the two are. Not in initial message and ideal, but what they've become.
I vote yes on Draak. I don't think he's a bad guy at all. Agree with Bel though about content and such, although, coming from us, that shouldn't mean too much.:wink2: hehe, a smilie!
Anyway, I survived the New Years bash and woke up with only the slightest of headaches afterwards, which is surprising, cuz I was ****in wasted!! I swear at one point, I think I was about 80 proof.:wink2:
It was the best New Year celebration thus far in my life: Great friends, good booze and no drama.
Special thanks to Bel: the only one to remember my Birthday online.
@everyone else: payback's a *****, mother****ers!! j/k :wink2:
Furthermore, I move that we open the roster and allow new members. I vote yes on this as well (if it gets that far). Personally, I think it's silly to have a max membership number.
As far as goth goes, I think Annie's list of Goth characteristics was completely absurd. No offense.
I would most likely be labeled goth because I predominantly wear black. I also tend to keep to myself. But in reality, I am a human being. Nothing more, nothing less.
Well, I've seen one line posts in here, so I thought it was ok, why can thy post one line posts and I can't? and signing draak, became annoying after awhile anyway.
I say we have to stop at 20, we have to be realistic here, and he have to be more selective if we add it.
I vote yes on Draak, becouse of his posts in WP have become much better.
People in my school think I am a goth just becouse
1. I wear Band t-shirts 80% of the time
2. I have a leather jacket
3. I am pessimisstic
so I think Goth can be left to peoples thoughts on it.
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He shall summon forth the ancient ones
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I am solidly in the third option along with the following:
PM members need to post at least once per thread, in order to properly support the clan. We should have someone (a secretary? maybe) that accounts for such things and keeps up with who's active and who is not. Then if a member misses two consecutive threads, that member should be voted on whether or not to remain in the clan. Just an idea... LMK what y'all think.
@Annie: I haven't given a whole lot of thought to my definition of "goth" as IMO, this is merely a stupid label inflicted by a stupid hierarchial way of thinking that infects the world in every aspect. My comments as to your reasonings came almost entirely from your check list:
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-listen to goth music (which is very broad and is basically defined by 'music quite a lot of goths listen to'.)
- do not take themselves seriously / do not call themselves goth.
- dress in goth clothes (not neccessarily black)
- have some sense of culture / art / good taste / style.
- attend goth parties
- etc.
In the first item, you say listen to goth music. Then you put that goth music is defined by music quite a lot of goths listen to. Now basically, my argument will follow the presumption that the person doing the checklist does not know at all, or completely, what "goth" is. How can they possibly identify "goth music" by your checklist?
For number 2, how can you tell whether or not someone "takes themselves seriously"? You could ask, I suppose, but here is how I envision the conversation going:
Non-goth (or goth or whatever): Excuse, me. I have noticed that you appear to fit the stereotypical "goth" image. Do you take yourself seriously?
Goth (or Goth-looking, or whatever): Go **** yourself.
Non-goth: Are you a goth?
Goth: No.
How could that possibly answer someone's question?
Number 3, what are "goth clothes"? The only specific you put was not necessarily black. Other than that, it is entirely open-ended.
That is all for now, Annie, but I'm sure there are other things you will bring up and we can debate that too, if you wish. I do have one question: Based on the image portrayed by Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day), would you call him a goth?
as I think will told you, I kinda had some problems a little while ago with my gf.. things are a bit more stable now, in a weird way.. I dont know how things will end tough.. I prolly wont find out untill a couple of weeks or so.. However, Im not as depressed anymore and Im kinda feeling better.. thanks to those who have showed their support to me the last week..
I'll check in some more later..
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Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -how passionately I hate them!
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The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
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Too many pages.. I go out for 3 days.. look what happens.. anyone want to sum it up in a moderately precise way for me. Did we do anything, learn anything, soap anyone, anything
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Too many pages.. I go out for 3 days.. look what happens.. anyone want to sum it up in a moderately precise way for me. Did we do anything, learn anything, soap anyone, anything
We are currently re-examining our membership policy. The options thus far are:
1. remain at 13 members only.
2. up the member count to a certain level
3. no maximum member count.
I believe that most have voted for #3, although Zack wants to cap membership at 20.
Annie and myself are debating "goth".
Other than that, not too much more than usual.
@JC: good to see ya back a little bit. As always, we are here for you if you need us. My msn is will always show busy, but I can usually answer fairly quickly.
If someone is cool enough to join the clan, we shouldn't keep them out.
I wanted to kill a friend today after school. She DOUSED me in this strong perfume, and I had to walk home through gang territory smelling like a fruitcake or whatever concoction of odd odors was in that perfume.
How 'bout, "You have a spectacular gilfriend's username?" Only kidding, of course.
...Her username isn't that good.
Anyway, this whole strict labeling thing drives me nuts. Like, in order to be "this" you have to do "this?" I understand that it's always been like that for the in-crowd or whatever but I thought Goth-ism was all about not conforming. I myself don't have a specific label, but people call me a punk/slacker/nerd in order from most to least. I'm the first to admit I do nerdy stuff, but I don't act nerdy. At least in a stereotypical way.
EDIT: Yeah... Strip Magic... and frequent posters get to play too. Or they might just snap.
I didn't like the name Sellian. I was getting bored of it, besides, it brings back memories of asheron's call and makes me want it again ;). Everyone else knew me as Charlie anyway.
Back in ma' day, only like one to three people out of any given clan actually posted threads. It was an honor. Now it's like getting picked for sports - you've got to be picked eventually. >_>
Yo!
Nice to see ye!
I do like the idea as ixi is awesome. w00t and stuff
Today, I felt like ****, so after I got home, I ate dinner, and napped... and just woke up. -_-
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
You sure you not confusing them with emos?
U Merfolk
UGW Bant
BGW Rock
WUB Stoneblade
RGW Zoo
He had emo right until he hit "Hot Topic". Then they went ****ed up, psycho, American goths.
*shudders*
American goths are like a ****ed up breed of people. Yurpean goths are alright - American, not so.
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How many emos does it take to change a lightbulb? Who cares? Let 'em cry in the dark.
U Merfolk
UGW Bant
BGW Rock
WUB Stoneblade
RGW Zoo
Anyway, I survived the New Years bash and woke up with only the slightest of headaches afterwards, which is surprising, cuz I was ****in wasted!! I swear at one point, I think I was about 80 proof.:wink2:
It was the best New Year celebration thus far in my life: Great friends, good booze and no drama.
Special thanks to Bel: the only one to remember my Birthday online.
@everyone else: payback's a *****, mother****ers!! j/k :wink2:
Furthermore, I move that we open the roster and allow new members. I vote yes on this as well (if it gets that far). Personally, I think it's silly to have a max membership number.
As far as goth goes, I think Annie's list of Goth characteristics was completely absurd. No offense.
I would most likely be labeled goth because I predominantly wear black. I also tend to keep to myself. But in reality, I am a human being. Nothing more, nothing less.
I vote yes on Draak, becouse of his posts in WP have become much better.
People in my school think I am a goth just becouse
1. I wear Band t-shirts 80% of the time
2. I have a leather jacket
3. I am pessimisstic
so I think Goth can be left to peoples thoughts on it.
for he is the messenger between the spheres
and the traveler between the realms of the living and the dead.
He shall summon forth the ancient ones
and wake them from their deathly slumber
then shall the elder signs be shattered.
Trade Thread
PM members need to post at least once per thread, in order to properly support the clan. We should have someone (a secretary? maybe) that accounts for such things and keeps up with who's active and who is not. Then if a member misses two consecutive threads, that member should be voted on whether or not to remain in the clan. Just an idea... LMK what y'all think.
In the first item, you say listen to goth music. Then you put that goth music is defined by music quite a lot of goths listen to. Now basically, my argument will follow the presumption that the person doing the checklist does not know at all, or completely, what "goth" is. How can they possibly identify "goth music" by your checklist?
For number 2, how can you tell whether or not someone "takes themselves seriously"? You could ask, I suppose, but here is how I envision the conversation going:
Non-goth (or goth or whatever): Excuse, me. I have noticed that you appear to fit the stereotypical "goth" image. Do you take yourself seriously?
Goth (or Goth-looking, or whatever): Go **** yourself.
Non-goth: Are you a goth?
Goth: No.
How could that possibly answer someone's question?
Number 3, what are "goth clothes"? The only specific you put was not necessarily black. Other than that, it is entirely open-ended.
That is all for now, Annie, but I'm sure there are other things you will bring up and we can debate that too, if you wish. I do have one question: Based on the image portrayed by Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day), would you call him a goth?
as I think will told you, I kinda had some problems a little while ago with my gf.. things are a bit more stable now, in a weird way.. I dont know how things will end tough.. I prolly wont find out untill a couple of weeks or so.. However, Im not as depressed anymore and Im kinda feeling better.. thanks to those who have showed their support to me the last week..
I'll check in some more later..
[thread=41221][my extendo sig][/thread] [thread=56664][moderator helpdesk][/thread] [Pen and Paper Inn]
Just add me on msn if you have any questions or just want to talk
We are currently re-examining our membership policy. The options thus far are:
1. remain at 13 members only.
2. up the member count to a certain level
3. no maximum member count.
I believe that most have voted for #3, although Zack wants to cap membership at 20.
Annie and myself are debating "goth".
Other than that, not too much more than usual.
@JC: good to see ya back a little bit. As always, we are here for you if you need us. My msn is will always show busy, but I can usually answer fairly quickly.
If someone is cool enough to join the clan, we shouldn't keep them out.
I wanted to kill a friend today after school. She DOUSED me in this strong perfume, and I had to walk home through gang territory smelling like a fruitcake or whatever concoction of odd odors was in that perfume.
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
Oh my, ButteBlues, did I mention how fine your avatar looks today?
Raia, what a wonderful username you have!
Mark Rosewater! That pink font is looking sharp!
Belgareth, you have a... um... spectacular... uh... damn.
Just kidding.
* ButteBlues18 mutters something about all decent-looking female applicants being required to play a match of strip magic..
[KalmWave] [Last.FM]
Ubuntu Linux
How 'bout, "You have a spectacular gilfriend's username?" Only kidding, of course.
...Her username isn't that good.
Anyway, this whole strict labeling thing drives me nuts. Like, in order to be "this" you have to do "this?" I understand that it's always been like that for the in-crowd or whatever but I thought Goth-ism was all about not conforming. I myself don't have a specific label, but people call me a punk/slacker/nerd in order from most to least. I'm the first to admit I do nerdy stuff, but I don't act nerdy. At least in a stereotypical way.
EDIT: Yeah... Strip Magic... and frequent posters get to play too. Or they might just snap.
I am quite tired, reeally, i was up till 4, and woke up at 9:30. So, yeah.
I am going to start playing pokemon blue. for some reason I just got an urge to play it. so, bye.
@ JC: Hope youre feeling better, it's no good to get really down about stuff, is it?
EDIT - huh. 402 posts without realizing. awesome.
600 left till tag!
He changed names as some neo-nazi was using the alias Insane Hermit and our Hermit was getting some not-so-nice emails because of it.
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Ubuntu Linux
what can i say?
Bah humbug to all this "taking turns" crap.
Back in ma' day, only like one to three people out of any given clan actually posted threads. It was an honor. Now it's like getting picked for sports - you've got to be picked eventually. >_>
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Ubuntu Linux
Well. If I could, I'd put it at no limit for members, besides, you guys know how to sort the corn from the chaff eh.
My legs hurt. I just walked 2 kilometres on the treadmill... 25minutes of fast 5km/hr walking. Its working though, i've lost a kilo.