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My above post about Wizards' relationship with UB is more accurate than ever.
Wizards gave us a great mechanic and then did absolutely nothing with it.
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Also, Vosk is terrible because he was just a creature they didn't have room for so they made it the Dimir Champion. So it was not only uninspired design but blatantly lazy.
Also, Vosk is terrible because he was just a creature they didn't have room for so they made it the Dimir Champion. So it was not only uninspired design but blatantly lazy.
Where do we write? I'd love to have an input on fixing things before we go back to Kamigawa and get a bunch of ninja rogues with ninjitsu that bounce opponents creatures and not much else.
If anyone is annoyed with overpowered Boros *coughDigicough*, plan on boycotting Theros. What other than W/R Soldiers are going to follow up Boros Ravnica in a Roman Themed set? Nothing. I saw that at my LGS today and almost screamed. If things continue the way they look, Standard is going to be dominated by aggro for a lot longer... and we're looking a no less than another year for playable U/B.
Edit: Maybe the Gaul tribes will be themed in, made U/B and we can be responsible for the fall of Theros/Rome. Here's wishing.
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Edit: Maybe the Gaul tribes will be themed in, made U/B and we can be responsible for the fall of Theros/Rome. Here's wishing.
@ ancient Europe: I'd file Gauls/Germans under green, as their territory was mostly forests. We could get pirates.
@ that rare cipher: why that 'until end of turn'? Can't even play it in my type-hack EDH like this.
@ DGM-GTC-RTR drafts: now I'm really curious how this stuff drafts. Feels slower than pure GTC and I expect people to fight over their color fixing. If they don't: DRAFT ALL THE COLORS!
I think first deck I draft will be the 10-mechanics challenge: each guild mechanic must be in the deck ...
Where do we write? I'd love to have an input on fixing things before we go back to Kamigawa and get a bunch of ninja rogues with ninjitsu that bounce opponents creatures and not much else.
If anyone is annoyed with overpowered Boros *coughDigicough*, plan on boycotting Theros. What other than W/R Soldiers are going to follow up Boros Ravnica in a Roman Themed set? Nothing. I saw that at my LGS today and almost screamed. If things continue the way they look, Standard is going to be dominated by aggro for a lot longer... and we're looking a no less than another year for playable U/B.
Edit: Maybe the Gaul tribes will be themed in, made U/B and we can be responsible for the fall of Theros/Rome. Here's wishing.
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Boros is really not that overpowered. No red-based aggro decks are doing extremely well right now. The top spot, as always, is either given to or almost won by UW-based control. And the current meta is so hostile to aggro after PTGTC was so aggro-heavy. If anything, DGM printed so many answers for control (especially Bant) to stop aggro in its tracks. Look at Lavinia, Render Silent, Beck, Voice of Resurgence, and Plasm Capture. Standard post-release is going to be so control-heavy.
The only good card Boros received was Legion's Initiative. The rest of them are simply over-costed and aimed at non-control decks or limited.
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Boros is really not that overpowered. No red-based aggro decks are doing extremely well right now. The top spot, as always, is either given to or almost won by UW-based control. And the current meta is so hostile to aggro after PTGTC was so aggro-heavy. If anything, DGM printed so many answers for control (especially Bant) to stop aggro in its tracks. Look at Lavinia, Render Silent, Beck, Voice of Resurgence, and Plasm Capture. Standard post-release is going to be so control-heavy.
The only good card Boros received was Legion's Initiative. The rest of them are simply over-costed and aimed at non-control decks or limited.
Yeah, most of the control would be aimed at non dimir/Esper/Grixis stuff. I hate running green control, it doesn't even fit in the "color philosophy" as MaRo puts it. This set is nearly only good in Limited anyway. What the HECK kinda Esper Control can I run now when all I got was Render Silent. Limited Dimir just took a major dive, seeing as if i try to run Dimir in the prerelease I'm gonna have to count on my RTR and GTC packs for anything good. I already prepaid. As far as Constructed, More than half my deck rolls out in October. Snapcaster, Resto, Forbidden Alchemy, Augur, Think Twice, Drownyards, Dissipate gets replaced with Render Silent, Tragic Slip, Checklands won't all get reprinted if any, so there go at least my Isolated Chapels.
Edit: That's 24 cards that I have 2 replacement for.
Point is, anything Boros that seems pointless, half of it will synergize with stuff from Theros. Just watch.
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Yeah, most of the control would be aimed at non dimir/Esper/Grixis stuff. I hate running green control, it doesn't even fit in the "color philosophy" as MaRo puts it. This set is nearly only good in Limited anyway. What the HECK kinda Esper Control can I run now when all I got was Render Silent. Limited Dimir just took a major dive, seeing as if i try to run Dimir in the prerelease I'm gonna have to count on my RTR and GTC packs for anything good. I already prepaid. As far as Constructed, More than half my deck rolls out in October. Snapcaster, Resto, Forbidden Alchemy, Augur, Think Twice, Drownyards, Dissipate gets replaced with Render Silent, Tragic Slip, Checklands won't all get reprinted if any, so there go at least my Isolated Chapels.
Edit: That's 24 cards that I have 2 replacement for.
Point is, anything Boros that seems pointless, half of it will synergize with stuff from Theros. Just watch.
We'll see, I suppose I'm really excited for Theros myself. A Greco-Roman block in Magic that might be enchantment-centric? Yes please!
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Just read the "Ajani" roast, and I'm not unhappy we're going after them. That was awful.
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After seeing the full spoiler, I don't think I'll be buying boxes :/ There's power, but I dunno... I'd be buying a box for shocks, which I might as well just buy and save pulling chaff. Really gutted we got so shafted with two half-mechanics.
Cipher had potential, but I don't think it even scratched the surface in this set, and I'm not sure we'll see cipher anywhere else after RtR. What a waste of awesome design space -.-
Not keen on a Greek/Roman-themed set, to be honest. Just not my groove.
@Nate, no need for that. We keep it clean among our own filth.
@Sir Mu, what's up, man! Long time no see, and such:) Lots has changed in the world of Digi, lol. How have you been? Where have you been?
@Dimir Sucking Butt in print: I do see UBX or rather, Xub decks with the support. Im going to try esper again. Bant has been winning for me the.last two weeks, (8-1), but I feel Render Silent is really what the esper mill build needed. We shall see...
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Thank all of you whom have contributed, please keep them coming. For those of you whom have not sent me a PM, shame on you. As it is, you still have a couple days. Get. Them. To. Me.
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@Nate, no need for that. We keep it clean among our own filth.
@Sir Mu, what's up, man! Long time no see, and such:) Lots has changed in the world of Digi, lol. How have you been? Where have you been?
@Dimir Sucking Butt in print: I do see UBX or rather, Xub decks with the support. Im going to try esper again. Bant has been winning for me the.last two weeks, (8-1), but I feel Render Silent is really what the esper mill build needed. We shall see...
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Im going to accept contribution for another couple days.
While we do have a lot of material, only some of it is strong enough to be Dimir worthy.
Thank all of you whom have contributed, please keep them coming. For those of you whom have not sent me a PM, shame on you. As it is, you still have a couple days. Get. Them. To. Me.
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My bad, just being a bit overconfident on purpose, no harm intended.
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I have a friend who really hates control, counter magic, and mill. Even he agrees that we have been completely shafted this block. I'm kinda tired of Wizards playing favorites within the color pie.
On the note of that, I had an interesting meal tonight.
It was angel hair pasta, grilled chicken, mozzarella cheese, and pancetta in a light cream sauce. It sounds good right.... except it was a Grand Marnier cream sauce.
The sauce was sweet whenn I tried it, but I decided to go for the full meal (waitress brought out a small thing of sauce.)
I must say that it was absolutly divine. The salty, meaty-ness culled a lot of the sweetness, bringing out the best in the whole dish. Its dishes like that, that sound weird, that I love to try. I think the main question you should ask when ordering a meal like that is: "Why is it on the menu, and not a special board"?
Also, @Digi: I can't wait to see the final product. One big, collaborative effort between the members of our awesome clan? How could it not be good?
Aggro players don't agree, for obvious reasons. And as a control player, I don't like aggro. At least not beat your face aggro. Craterhoof Behemoth will not be missed, as Torpor Orb was.
@Macius Great food story, and even better reaction. My wife and I are foodies, made lobster at home for the first time for our anniversary. You know the Fried Egg B.L.T. from Spanglish that Adam Sandler makes and I don't think he gets to actually eat? Lol, it is absolutely amazing! There's a special feature on the DVD with a recipe and a how to.it's pretty simple though. I swear on everything I hold dear, that will be the best sandwich(at least B.L.T.) you ever eat.
Edit: @Digi You said you've been running bant control, Is it Bant Run? I've got the stuff to make a Bant Run deck, but I'd like a better wincon that's not Thragtusk Wolfrun, or Geist. What about an Angel of Serenity wincon? Trying to up tier my wife's Bant Armada Wurm deck.
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Im a foodie because I am a culinarian at heart. Yes, I do drink at home and I admit to not being of age (less than a year), but to me... its not about the alcohol, but the flavors you get from it. I see no point in just eating something bland... you should eat the flavors you can.
We all have to eat to survive, so why not have fun?
@Macius: That really does sound heavenly...it's food like that that I miss while at college...the dining hall food here sucks tremendously and it's all I get the chance to eat.
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@Macius: That really does sound heavenly...it's food like that that I miss while at college...the dining hall food here sucks tremendously and it's all I get the chance to eat.
Besides, you play spells too. The aggro players I'm not liking are the type that run 20+ - 30+ creatures and scoop and drop when they get hit with a board wipe and cry so much that control is practically useless, due to lack of new cards to keep up. That being said, it's great too play Standard Solar Flare in a Modern tourney, and beat RDW 2 - 0 without needing to sideboard, but you do anyway to be mean. So good to see them run out of burn..... and then cards.
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Besides, you play spells too. The aggro players I'm not liking are the type that run 20+ - 30+ creatures and scoop and drop when they get hit with a board wipe and cry so much that control is practically useless, due to lack of new cards to keep up. That being said, it's great too play Standard Solar Flare in a Modern tourney, and beat RDW 2 - 0 without needing to sideboard, but you do anyway to be mean. So good to see them run out of burn..... and then cards.
You really don't like aggro, do you?
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Excuse me for being stupid for a moment, but what rare cipher? i see a common cipher that's not much better than Hands of Binding.
Edit: nevermind, page hadn't loaded. Horribly conditional text changing. Garbage.
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Wizards gave us a great mechanic and then did absolutely nothing with it.
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Where do we write? I'd love to have an input on fixing things before we go back to Kamigawa and get a bunch of ninja rogues with ninjitsu that bounce opponents creatures and not much else.
If anyone is annoyed with overpowered Boros *coughDigicough*, plan on boycotting Theros. What other than W/R Soldiers are going to follow up Boros Ravnica in a Roman Themed set? Nothing. I saw that at my LGS today and almost screamed. If things continue the way they look, Standard is going to be dominated by aggro for a lot longer... and we're looking a no less than another year for playable U/B.
Edit: Maybe the Gaul tribes will be themed in, made U/B and we can be responsible for the fall of Theros/Rome. Here's wishing.
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@ ancient Europe: I'd file Gauls/Germans under green, as their territory was mostly forests. We could get pirates.
@ that rare cipher: why that 'until end of turn'? Can't even play it in my type-hack EDH like this.
@ DGM-GTC-RTR drafts: now I'm really curious how this stuff drafts. Feels slower than pure GTC and I expect people to fight over their color fixing. If they don't: DRAFT ALL THE COLORS!
I think first deck I draft will be the 10-mechanics challenge: each guild mechanic must be in the deck ...
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Boros is really not that overpowered. No red-based aggro decks are doing extremely well right now. The top spot, as always, is either given to or almost won by UW-based control. And the current meta is so hostile to aggro after PTGTC was so aggro-heavy. If anything, DGM printed so many answers for control (especially Bant) to stop aggro in its tracks. Look at Lavinia, Render Silent, Beck, Voice of Resurgence, and Plasm Capture. Standard post-release is going to be so control-heavy.
The only good card Boros received was Legion's Initiative. The rest of them are simply over-costed and aimed at non-control decks or limited.
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Yeah, most of the control would be aimed at non dimir/Esper/Grixis stuff. I hate running green control, it doesn't even fit in the "color philosophy" as MaRo puts it. This set is nearly only good in Limited anyway. What the HECK kinda Esper Control can I run now when all I got was Render Silent. Limited Dimir just took a major dive, seeing as if i try to run Dimir in the prerelease I'm gonna have to count on my RTR and GTC packs for anything good. I already prepaid. As far as Constructed, More than half my deck rolls out in October. Snapcaster, Resto, Forbidden Alchemy, Augur, Think Twice, Drownyards, Dissipate gets replaced with Render Silent, Tragic Slip, Checklands won't all get reprinted if any, so there go at least my Isolated Chapels.
Edit: That's 24 cards that I have 2 replacement for.
Point is, anything Boros that seems pointless, half of it will synergize with stuff from Theros. Just watch.
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We'll see, I suppose I'm really excited for Theros myself. A Greco-Roman block in Magic that might be enchantment-centric? Yes please!
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So, everyone sideboard Paraselene until they reprint either Back to Nature or Tempest of Light, or they can throw me a funny bone, and reprint Tranquil Grove. That would be funny.
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Cipher had potential, but I don't think it even scratched the surface in this set, and I'm not sure we'll see cipher anywhere else after RtR. What a waste of awesome design space -.-
Not keen on a Greek/Roman-themed set, to be honest. Just not my groove.
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@Sir Mu, what's up, man! Long time no see, and such:) Lots has changed in the world of Digi, lol. How have you been? Where have you been?
@Dimir Sucking Butt in print: I do see UBX or rather, Xub decks with the support. Im going to try esper again. Bant has been winning for me the.last two weeks, (8-1), but I feel Render Silent is really what the esper mill build needed. We shall see...
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While we do have a lot of material, only some of it is strong enough to be Dimir worthy.
Thank all of you whom have contributed, please keep them coming. For those of you whom have not sent me a PM, shame on you. As it is, you still have a couple days. Get. Them. To. Me.
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Getting a box (for future drafting). Izzet for the midnight, Dimir for day pre-release. Or vice versa. I just need my blue.
Also, warm-up EDH at a friend's place. Most likey with Roman cooking (even if an edition too early). Got to love that chicken stew ...
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My bad, just being a bit overconfident on purpose, no harm intended.
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@Aja, we've both thrown some gems in as well:) As has all who have contributed.
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Yeah, everyone agrees...It's really unfortunate, too.
Also, @Digi: I can't wait to see the final product. One big, collaborative effort between the members of our awesome clan? How could it not be good?
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Oh, you know. Wandering across the desolate wastes of the internet. Swimming the seas of real life. Eating food of various quality.
It was angel hair pasta, grilled chicken, mozzarella cheese, and pancetta in a light cream sauce. It sounds good right.... except it was a Grand Marnier cream sauce.
The sauce was sweet whenn I tried it, but I decided to go for the full meal (waitress brought out a small thing of sauce.)
I must say that it was absolutly divine. The salty, meaty-ness culled a lot of the sweetness, bringing out the best in the whole dish. Its dishes like that, that sound weird, that I love to try. I think the main question you should ask when ordering a meal like that is: "Why is it on the menu, and not a special board"?
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyAggro players don't agree, for obvious reasons. And as a control player, I don't like aggro. At least not beat your face aggro. Craterhoof Behemoth will not be missed, as Torpor Orb was.
@Macius Great food story, and even better reaction. My wife and I are foodies, made lobster at home for the first time for our anniversary. You know the Fried Egg B.L.T. from Spanglish that Adam Sandler makes and I don't think he gets to actually eat? Lol, it is absolutely amazing! There's a special feature on the DVD with a recipe and a how to.it's pretty simple though. I swear on everything I hold dear, that will be the best sandwich(at least B.L.T.) you ever eat.
Edit: @Digi You said you've been running bant control, Is it Bant Run? I've got the stuff to make a Bant Run deck, but I'd like a better wincon that's not Thragtusk Wolfrun, or Geist. What about an Angel of Serenity wincon? Trying to up tier my wife's Bant Armada Wurm deck.
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540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething Spicy@Macius: That really does sound heavenly...it's food like that that I miss while at college...the dining hall food here sucks tremendously and it's all I get the chance to eat.
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I was specifically talking about these aggro players: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505741
Besides, you play spells too. The aggro players I'm not liking are the type that run 20+ - 30+ creatures and scoop and drop when they get hit with a board wipe and cry so much that control is practically useless, due to lack of new cards to keep up. That being said, it's great too play Standard Solar Flare in a Modern tourney, and beat RDW 2 - 0 without needing to sideboard, but you do anyway to be mean. So good to see them run out of burn..... and then cards.
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You really don't like aggro, do you?
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