I'll see if I can post it via the phone. I'm not doing anything and I just had a great dinner, Mojo Pork with Santa Fe style corn and black beans and potato pancakes, so my patience with my phone is enormous right now.
@digi I forgot too, lmao.
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You can probably tell there's a few things I'm working with for lack of my old collection that was left in Florida. A handful of proxies because I'm either playing with friends who proxy or my wife who I make proxies. At one point, I swapped out to use Arcum Dagsson as the commander.....Omfg he's stupid good. You literally just play dudes, and sac for answers, if you get March of the Machines out, then grab Spine, blow stuff up sac for mana rocks and repeat. Its was really mean, so I keep it more on the casual side and just use Muzzio in 1v1 at home, lol. I realized I can type all of this in the notepad, copy and paste to the site, and I don't have to deal with my keyboard constantly disappearing while I'm typing. Anyway, hope you guys like what I've thrown together!
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I meant to post, "Where'd er'ybody go?" A couple days ago, but my phone effed up and forgotten to do this copy and paste thing I'm doing now. I'd love some feedback on what you guys think of Muzzio, and please consider, this is literally thrown together. Also, definitely taking out March of the Machines for basically anything of value. Probably going to throw a Staff of Domination, and I wanna work in Memnarch because reasons and gives me a third alternate General. Oh yeah, and I'm gonna swap out Soldevi Machinist to bring in Vedalken Engineer so I can tap to cast artifacts and not just active abilities. If Soldevi goes back to school and gets some type of degree in engineering, I'll consider a rehire.
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Yeah, for sure. Its built fairly casual, but has a consistency to be a threat early just by stocking up on the low cost artifacts early and casting Muzzio to dig for big threats. I put Arcum in there so I can switch modes a little bit, for a more aggressive meta, which is what I'm seeing with my wife's Karador, my buddies Jarad, a local Animar being worked on, Prosh + tokens, and an occasional Borborg Enraged. Karn gets whipped out when they start targeting me, where I then lock down early and either combo out or swarm with Karn activations.
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I got to play this sequence at least 5 times in my 4 matches, and every time it was devastating to my opponent. It's hard to keep up with a curve like this! I'll try to post the full list later!
Nice work, Xander! I always over looked the angler, as I liked my other delve spells and creatures on my pool better, but to be fair I had Soulflayer and Sage-Eye Avengers at the time. Sage-Eye in combo with Icy Blast pit in some serious work at 2hg. Lots of fun. Unfortunately, not a huge draft crowd at my lgs, so Draft FNMs have been missed for lack of players, since the first 6 weeks of a set is draft FNM, then standard after.
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Has anyone gotten into Tiny Leaders yet? It's a new format that's making waves internationally.
It's basically commander with 50 card decks and all cards must be CMC 3 or less. The only 2 or 3 colour combination that lacks a Legendary creature at CMC 3 or less is Sultai. The format organizers therefore permit a proxy card "Sultai, Legendary Creature, 2/2" to be used until Wizards makes a Tony Leader for Sultai.
Awesome render, Xander. I've been hearing TONS about tiny leaders at my LGS, however people don't seem to be playing it, lol. If it turns out people start playing, I might build a deck. I heard Ezuri either is or should be banned in the format, since elves are already good enough to begin with. I could see Muzzio being playable. I still get all sorts of goodies like Trinisphere, Ensnaring Bridge, Chalice (which would probably end up banned, lol), and one of my favorites Claws of Gix. O Stone and Ratchet bomb seem awesome in the format. I like the idea, but it seems like the competition level could get really high, really fast. Not necessarily a bad thing. I can see UW Sygg being pretty nuts, and affinity could turn into a hoss. Realistically, with only 50 cards, wouldn't it just turn into multiplayer singleton Vintage/Legacy?
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Tiny Leader is an abomination of a format. I despise it as it competes with an actual tournament quality EDH format (Duel Commander) but rather than enabling interesting gameplay it exists only as a hyper-restrictive format with an arbitrary ban list.
On another note, new Silumgar makes me happy. It's U/B and doesn't mill!
On another note, new Silumgar makes me happy. It's U/B and doesn't mill!
Yeah! Not mill! Woo! I'm interested to see where the format goes. It's already affecting card prices.
I'll probably make a couple Tony Leaders decks, as I don't like building 1v1 Commander decks. I already have 6 or 7 Commander decks, so a couple of TL decks can't hurt.
On another note, new Silumgar makes me happy. It's U/B and doesn't mill!
Yeah! Not mill! Woo! I'm interested to see where the format goes. It's already affecting card prices.
I'll probably make a couple Tony Leaders decks, as I don't like building 1v1 Commander decks. I already have 6 or 7 Commander decks, so a couple of TL decks can't hurt.
Tiny commander has been getting a bunch of hype around my LGS too. I've converted my only EDH deck (Lyzolda, The Blood Witch) into this for one round and it was pretty fun. I typically don't like formats that aren't in some way sanctioned so I won't be building a deck specifically for it unless I get exceedingly bored. Although I guess Ashling the Pilgrim and 49 Mountains would be cheap
At first, the name of "tiny commander" reminded me at first of a joke format I played once. My friend called it mini magic and you could only use split cards cut in half (and lands cut in half) so that decks were actually half the size.
Tiny LEaders is all anyone ever wants to play casually around the shops here. I find it meh. Like a watered down edh. I like edh because I can do crazy powerful things other formats restrict me from doing. As it is, I have a tiny leaders deck:/ It is totally effecting prices already. I'm still on the fence, but only because people start *****ing when they can't play tiny leaders and don't play. I need to play. Whatever format there is.
Speaking of switching it up, I have been playing a ***** ton of X-Wing lately. Star Trek Attack Wing has kind of fell obscurity, and no one has played Tactics II in a couple months. The X-Wing game is pretty much the same as Attack Wing, but the flavor is obviously Star Wars instead of my beloved Star Trek. It has a few key differences... but yea. Pretty much the same game.
I am also preparing for the LVGP trial locally. I took scapeshift on Friday, and went undefeated thus winning me a buy in to the trial. The biggest problem scapeshift had on Friday was against heavy red decks. Even after I pretty much sided all my counters, I still barely could pull off wins, and wouldn't have against better players or builds. Also, tron routinely smashes my face when playing scapeshift, as well as enchantment stomp, but luckily I didn't see either decks on Friday. I really want to play esper control during the trial. Anyone think there is room in modern for esper control? I am looking at these cards in particular:
I'm for sure going to switch around the extirpates and surgical extraction numbers in the md. I want more counter in the side board, but have not the faintest clue as to what should go in and out. Provided I am sober and of sound mind, I seriously think I can win a trial with a build like this. Since I'm certainly out of the loop as far as modern meta goes, I'm hoping to get some advice. Is this build or one like it just a fool's dream? If not, what can I do to improve? Should I replace the thoughtseizes with despise? No life loss would certainly help. I'd hate to do that and be royally ****ed later though. Mana is not an issue in this build, but if I change stuff around too much I wwill have to rework the symbol taps. Any suggestions?
Add- I kind of feel like there is room for cyclonic rift. Maybe even the md?
Super stoked for more fetches and full arts! And probably a Nahiri planeswalker for Standard (though with Gideon already there, a second white walker seems unlikely, hrm...)
Thanks Digi! And I would love for a true control deck to be good in Modern, I just don't think the timing is right. Modern is in a very weird state of flux with people trying to play the perceived strongest decks while others are trying to counter these new "best" decks.
That said, if I were to run control right, I'd be running some amount of Chalice of the Void at very least in the side board. I play UR Tron (it's mono-blue with 4x Electrolyze main and a few side cards) and I run 2 or 3 Chalice main depending on the day, so I may be slightly biased. Chalice on 1 is incredibly strong against the Infect and Burn that are popular at the moment.
Also, if you want to run mill, I'd suggest a few board wipes main, they are just necessary in Modern in my opinion without the deck manipulation and dig that Legacy offers. Unless you discard into Surgical on turn 1, you could just straight lose to a Goblin Guide let alone a Goyf into Siege Rhino if they manage to run you out of steam. As far as Cyc Rift goes, I wouldn't touch it unless you're playing Tron.
Edit - don't know if that was the list you were set on running but do you have fetches? The land base should be tweaked.
I Like Spine of Ish Sah with my Claws of Fix or Master Transmuter with my Ensnaring Bridge to switch to Tiny Leaders Just yet. Sure I can still Muzzio, but then he turns in to garbage. And I can't run Memnarch or Arcum Dagsson as alternates. I'm not too big of a fan of Duel Commander either, the banners lost is twice the size of regular EDH. A friend and I are starting a Casual Commander league at our LGS, I gotta get signups going this weekend. We allow up to 5 proxies in the 99, and trimmed thing a off the banned list. Its a lot more fun, you het points every week for doing cool shiz, including being last man in a pod, and lose points for doing douchey crap.
Is Dragons of Tarkir Silumgar better than FRF Silumgar though? Both are non-mill, and FRF version had hexproof and removal. I like the force spoke unless you reveal a Dragon, then it's a hard true two blue counterspell. Its not anywhere near Counterspell, but it'll due for standard.
As for modern, Wafo Tapo is still pretty good true Control deck in modern, and I think ub fae made a come back after Bitterblossom was unbanned. I'm pretty sure I can make a awesome UB control deck with Polluted Delta now being accessible in modern, and my Snapcasters are getting bored and wanna flash back a kill spell or 3. Devour Flesh and Go for the Throat, just saying. I like what you did there, digi, one seeing Drownyards again, maybe a 3rd? The artificer in me wants Isochron in there d or giggles, and not just because of Silence.
If I've said anything that's stupid or makes no sense, I just got my last 3 wisdom teeth removed yesterday morning, so I'm blaming the pain meds. This is not the pain meds, u miss all you guys when the thread starts chirping like crickets.
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Lands 34
1 City of Traitors
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Scorched Ruins
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Cathedral of War
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Inkmoth Nexus
1 Academy Ruins
1 Vesuva
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Encroaching Wastes
1 Remote Isle
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Saprazzan Sky
1 Seat of Synod
1 Halimar Depths
1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
9 Island
1 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Terramorphic Expanse
Mana Rocks 6
1 Mox Diamond
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Grim Monolith
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
Enchantment 1
1 March of the Machines
Instant 2
1 Intuition
1 Thirst for Knowledge
Sorcery 2
1 Reshape
1 Fabricate
Creatures 6
1 Renowned Weaponsmith
1 Soldevi Machinist
1 Chief Engineer
1 Arcum Dagsson
1 Trinket Mage
1 Treasure Mage
Automatons 16
1 Spellskite
1 Etherium Sculptor
1 Metalworker
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Lodestone Golem
1 Silent Arbiter
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Master Transmuter
1 Faerie Mechanist
1 Soul of New Phyrexia
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Platinum Angel
1 Phyrexian Colossus
1 Guardian of the Ages
1 Colossus of Sardia
1 Darksteel Colossus
Gear 7
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Batterskull
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Null Brooch
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Contagion Engine
1 Spine of Ish Sah
Tools of War 17
1 Claws of Gix
1 Altar of the Brood
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Voltaic Key
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Expedition Map
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Torpor Orb
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Trading Post
1 Unwinding Clock
1 Clock of Omens
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Staff of Nin
1 Darksteel Forge
You can probably tell there's a few things I'm working with for lack of my old collection that was left in Florida. A handful of proxies because I'm either playing with friends who proxy or my wife who I make proxies. At one point, I swapped out to use Arcum Dagsson as the commander.....Omfg he's stupid good. You literally just play dudes, and sac for answers, if you get March of the Machines out, then grab Spine, blow stuff up sac for mana rocks and repeat. Its was really mean, so I keep it more on the casual side and just use Muzzio in 1v1 at home, lol. I realized I can type all of this in the notepad, copy and paste to the site, and I don't have to deal with my keyboard constantly disappearing while I'm typing. Anyway, hope you guys like what I've thrown together!
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We played FRF+FRF+KTK and I ended up running a solid Dimir deck!
Favourite sequence:
T2: Sultai Skullkeeper (3 copies)
T3: Write Into Being (2 copies)
T4: Gurmag Angler (2 copies)
I got to play this sequence at least 5 times in my 4 matches, and every time it was devastating to my opponent. It's hard to keep up with a curve like this! I'll try to post the full list later!
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This made me laugh out loud actually. Got some weird looks in Starbucks.
I do what I can. The comedy distracts people from the memory plundering....I mean HI!
It's basically commander with 50 card decks and all cards must be CMC 3 or less. The only 2 or 3 colour combination that lacks a Legendary creature at CMC 3 or less is Sultai. The format organizers therefore permit a proxy card "Sultai, Legendary Creature, 2/2" to be used until Wizards makes a Tony Leader for Sultai.
I decided to make a render for this proxy card:
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On another note, new Silumgar makes me happy. It's U/B and doesn't mill!
Yeah! Not mill! Woo! I'm interested to see where the format goes. It's already affecting card prices.
I'll probably make a couple Tony Leaders decks, as I don't like building 1v1 Commander decks. I already have 6 or 7 Commander decks, so a couple of TL decks can't hurt.
I'm learning to make alters.
Play Duel Commander fool.
At first, the name of "tiny commander" reminded me at first of a joke format I played once. My friend called it mini magic and you could only use split cards cut in half (and lands cut in half) so that decks were actually half the size.
Edit- that render is really good looking though
Speaking of switching it up, I have been playing a ***** ton of X-Wing lately. Star Trek Attack Wing has kind of fell obscurity, and no one has played Tactics II in a couple months. The X-Wing game is pretty much the same as Attack Wing, but the flavor is obviously Star Wars instead of my beloved Star Trek. It has a few key differences... but yea. Pretty much the same game.
I am also preparing for the LVGP trial locally. I took scapeshift on Friday, and went undefeated thus winning me a buy in to the trial. The biggest problem scapeshift had on Friday was against heavy red decks. Even after I pretty much sided all my counters, I still barely could pull off wins, and wouldn't have against better players or builds. Also, tron routinely smashes my face when playing scapeshift, as well as enchantment stomp, but luckily I didn't see either decks on Friday. I really want to play esper control during the trial. Anyone think there is room in modern for esper control? I am looking at these cards in particular:
3x Thoughtseize
3x Glimpse the Unthinkable
3x Extirpate
3x Thought Scour
4x Serum Visions
2x Spell Pierce
4x Silence
3x Remand
2x Surgical Extraction
2x Mana Leak
2x Cryptic Command
2x Mind Funeral
4x Hallowed Fountain
2x Nephalia Drownyard
3x Drowned Catacombs
3x Glacial Fortress
3x Godless Shrine
4x Watery Grave
2x Creeping Tarpit
1x Isolated Chapel
3x Path to Exile
2x Surgical Extraction
2x Pithing Needle
2x Nevermore
2x Supreme Verdict
3x Wrath of God
1x Extirpate
I'm for sure going to switch around the extirpates and surgical extraction numbers in the md. I want more counter in the side board, but have not the faintest clue as to what should go in and out. Provided I am sober and of sound mind, I seriously think I can win a trial with a build like this. Since I'm certainly out of the loop as far as modern meta goes, I'm hoping to get some advice. Is this build or one like it just a fool's dream? If not, what can I do to improve? Should I replace the thoughtseizes with despise? No life loss would certainly help. I'd hate to do that and be royally ****ed later though. Mana is not an issue in this build, but if I change stuff around too much I wwill have to rework the symbol taps. Any suggestions?
Add- I kind of feel like there is room for cyclonic rift. Maybe even the md?
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Super stoked for more fetches and full arts! And probably a Nahiri planeswalker for Standard (though with Gideon already there, a second white walker seems unlikely, hrm...)
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That said, if I were to run control right, I'd be running some amount of Chalice of the Void at very least in the side board. I play UR Tron (it's mono-blue with 4x Electrolyze main and a few side cards) and I run 2 or 3 Chalice main depending on the day, so I may be slightly biased. Chalice on 1 is incredibly strong against the Infect and Burn that are popular at the moment.
Also, if you want to run mill, I'd suggest a few board wipes main, they are just necessary in Modern in my opinion without the deck manipulation and dig that Legacy offers. Unless you discard into Surgical on turn 1, you could just straight lose to a Goblin Guide let alone a Goyf into Siege Rhino if they manage to run you out of steam. As far as Cyc Rift goes, I wouldn't touch it unless you're playing Tron.
Edit - don't know if that was the list you were set on running but do you have fetches? The land base should be tweaked.
Is Dragons of Tarkir Silumgar better than FRF Silumgar though? Both are non-mill, and FRF version had hexproof and removal. I like the force spoke unless you reveal a Dragon, then it's a hard true two blue counterspell. Its not anywhere near Counterspell, but it'll due for standard.
As for modern, Wafo Tapo is still pretty good true Control deck in modern, and I think ub fae made a come back after Bitterblossom was unbanned. I'm pretty sure I can make a awesome UB control deck with Polluted Delta now being accessible in modern, and my Snapcasters are getting bored and wanna flash back a kill spell or 3. Devour Flesh and Go for the Throat, just saying. I like what you did there, digi, one seeing Drownyards again, maybe a 3rd? The artificer in me wants Isochron in there d or giggles, and not just because of Silence.
If I've said anything that's stupid or makes no sense, I just got my last 3 wisdom teeth removed yesterday morning, so I'm blaming the pain meds. This is not the pain meds, u miss all you guys when the thread starts chirping like crickets.
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