So... I'm grounded for not going to this stupid fake youth group crap my parents want me to attend. I attended it before as a courtesy to them, but its all a bunch of people trying to make themselves feel better so they can look down on other people. I seriously think they have a tally of "how many people have YOU brought to Jesus?".
Yeah, yeah I'm a Christian but that's irrelevant.
So, I guess for their to be a point to this thread, how much control do you think a parent should have over their child's religious choices? I'm 18 for godsakes, and they still want me to do this fake crap.
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If you're 18, how can your parents ground you :eyebrow:?
I personally think that people should be allowed to make their own choices about religion as soon as they feel that they are able to. It's kind of silly to have someone say "I believe A" and reply "No, you have to believe B."
Well, they provide food, shelter, and eventual college money, so I'm kinda screwed if I just do whatever I want.
I don't know, I think they're going through a whole "loss of power" denial thing.
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Stop ignoring halcyon's excellent point.
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"I never prayed before. I don't even know who I am praying to. Maybe I'm too young to know what the world suppose is to be. But it's not suppose to be this. It can't be this. Please."
My parents made me go to Hebrew school when I was younger because they wanted me to have some sort of religious grounding, but as I got older they didn't really mind if I quit or not. Which was just as well, since I got kicked out of Hebrew school in fourth grade. Of course it didn't help that the people that worked there were against me, but that's a different story. Later I joined a volunteer group that had a Jewish background, but you didn't really need to be religious (or even Jewish!) to join. I had a good time with that.
So to get to the point, I think that religion should form an early basis of a child's life, but if they get older and they don't want to do it, the parents shouldn't force him or her to.
If you're 18, how can your parents ground you :eyebrow:?
If he's living with them... That must suck for self-esteem though. Sorry man.
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It's kind of silly to have someone say "I believe A" and reply "No, you have to believe B."
Have you met any Americans lately? [/sarcasm]
Yeah, I feel for you HalcyonDreamer. Fortunately I haven't had to deal with stuff like that from my parents, well not really anyway. Having any kind of belief pounded in to you against your will is wearing though, my parents are pacifists and they've raised hell every time they see me playing StarCraft or anything since I was like 9.
Ninja Edit: So your parents grounded a multiple-forum-member (you're on News too right?) and didn't take away computer privilages? Kinda' clueless huh?
I personally think that people should be allowed to make their own choices about religion as soon as they feel that they are able to. It's kind of silly to have someone say "I believe A" and reply "No, you have to believe B."
That's pretty much the way I look at it. My parents never tried to force feed religion to me, and while they did bring me to church with them when I was younger, as I got older and didn't feel the urge to go any more they let me make that choice on my own.
Now that I'm getting ready to have a kid of my own, I hope to do the same. My wife is Catholic, though, and wants us to raise our children as such (which I don't have a problem with) but I would like them to have the freedom to choose their own path once they're old enough to do so.
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I think the best a parent can do is perhaps expose their child to their religion while they're young, make their child aware of other religions, and then when they're child has made up his mind, be respectful of his choice.
ya that is a bit weird.... maybe you should take them one time and make them sit through it.. .
Also if you are 18, are you not a youth? Im pretty sure that being an adult is described as over the age of 18....
I believe that people should have the right to do whatever they want, as long as its leagal, when they are over the age of 18.
Move out. That's all you can really do to disentangle yourself from your parents' house rules. Until then, you must understand that while under their roof, you live by their rules. There is no such thing as a free lunch; you are paying for the food, shelter, and college tuition by being a good Christian son and obeying your parents.
Move out. That's all you can really do to disentangle yourself from your parents' house rules. Until then, you must understand that while under their roof, you live by their rules. There is no such thing as a free lunch; you are paying for the food, shelter, and college tuition by being a good Christian son and obeying your parents.
Interesting debate really... do parents have the right to absolute control while they are caring for you? I doubt people would argue it's ok for them to abuse you while they feed and clothe you, so where do you draw the line?
I don't have much of an opinion on what level of religious instruction is appropriate for parents to exert, given that I have no children and my parents exerted none upon me anyhow.
What I do have an opinion on, however, is the youth group you don't want to go to. It strikes me as being monstrous. If asked the question, "how many people did you bring to Jesus," the only answer a Christian can give is "none." That's some pretty balls-out infamy to go around suggesting otherwise.
So, you're well shot of them, I say.
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Yeah, yeah I'm a Christian but that's irrelevant.
So, I guess for their to be a point to this thread, how much control do you think a parent should have over their child's religious choices? I'm 18 for godsakes, and they still want me to do this fake crap.
I personally think that people should be allowed to make their own choices about religion as soon as they feel that they are able to. It's kind of silly to have someone say "I believe A" and reply "No, you have to believe B."
I don't know, I think they're going through a whole "loss of power" denial thing.
So to get to the point, I think that religion should form an early basis of a child's life, but if they get older and they don't want to do it, the parents shouldn't force him or her to.
If he's living with them... That must suck for self-esteem though. Sorry man.
Have you met any Americans lately? [/sarcasm]
Yeah, I feel for you HalcyonDreamer. Fortunately I haven't had to deal with stuff like that from my parents, well not really anyway. Having any kind of belief pounded in to you against your will is wearing though, my parents are pacifists and they've raised hell every time they see me playing StarCraft or anything since I was like 9.
Ninja Edit: So your parents grounded a multiple-forum-member (you're on News too right?) and didn't take away computer privilages? Kinda' clueless huh?
These boards need Lucida Blackletter as a font option.
Now that I'm getting ready to have a kid of my own, I hope to do the same. My wife is Catholic, though, and wants us to raise our children as such (which I don't have a problem with) but I would like them to have the freedom to choose their own path once they're old enough to do so. That's pretty much the way I look at it. My parents never tried to force feed religion to me, and while they did bring me to church with them when I was younger, as I got older and didn't feel the urge to go any more they let me make that choice on my own.
I think the best a parent can do is perhaps expose their child to their religion while they're young, make their child aware of other religions, and then when they're child has made up his mind, be respectful of his choice.
Also if you are 18, are you not a youth? Im pretty sure that being an adult is described as over the age of 18....
I believe that people should have the right to do whatever they want, as long as its leagal, when they are over the age of 18.
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Interesting debate really... do parents have the right to absolute control while they are caring for you? I doubt people would argue it's ok for them to abuse you while they feed and clothe you, so where do you draw the line?
What I do have an opinion on, however, is the youth group you don't want to go to. It strikes me as being monstrous. If asked the question, "how many people did you bring to Jesus," the only answer a Christian can give is "none." That's some pretty balls-out infamy to go around suggesting otherwise.
So, you're well shot of them, I say.
From out that wine-dark fog,
And spake he unto all our crew:
"Go forth, and read my blog."