Dork, your post is nice and all but trying to convince us all that Grape has a high chance of being scum is sort of a waste of time? We're all already there.
I just think KJ's more likely the correct one. Join us there (not now, wait till others have posted), and if it's wrong, then we go Grape.
He’s saying we should kill Grapefruit instead of Killjoy, your royal obnoxiousness.
I'm actually not trying to be obnoxious...this time.
I'm honestly saying "dude, it's cool. We believe you. But I just think KJ's more likely."
I mean, you've already said you'd prefer Grape, right?
I'll check in every now and again to avoid a prod, but this is where we should be going today.
@ me if you have any questions, I guess.
So according to you the entire scumteam together started and pushed the small Jack wagon on Day 1?
That would be extremely bold of Killjoy in particular (the wagon starter), and "bold" and "Killjoy" do not belong in the same sentence.
I think one of the reasons Rhand ended up being ejected was because one of the scum was absent. Had all three mafia been active, I think they would’ve managed to swing elsewhere.
After Grapefruit voted Rhand he didn’t show up again until Day 2.
As a bonus, if Grape is scum that explains why HR was initially so meek Day 2. Grape had "bussed" Rhand and voted him straight away. It's not discriminatory (Sloth could be scum by that standard ) but it makes sense in terms of team dynamics.
I think it was Dork in the spec of Realms (where I was scum) that was going "why aren't people scumreading sloth for wanting to end the Day early, wasn't he against it in the past?"
Which just goes to show how little Dork knows how to read me: I haven't been interested in prioritizing the entirety of the Day be used in quite a while - I've seen town talk themselves out of the correct choice way too many times for me to like the idea, and I never have wanted it when the conclusion is obvious and certain (i.e. now).
Main difference is in Realms (iirc) you said that as a semi-joke in RVS and obviously did not actually care (much), here you are actually trying to maintain a fast pace and prevent pointless lulls.
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KJ is far more likely to be the mafia's useful idiot than to be scum.
In terms of actually having a scum agenda and fitting perfectly in a team with both dead scum, Grape >>>(a million >s)>>> Killjoy.
Therefore I am NOT voting KJ before Grape. I don't care about your 3-players consensus when we could just end the game toDay in a perfect town win.
I'll check in every now and again to avoid a prod, but this is where we should be going today.
@ me if you have any questions, I guess.
So according to you the entire scumteam together started and pushed the small Jack wagon on Day 1?
That would be extremely bold of Killjoy in particular (the wagon starter), and "bold" and "Killjoy" do not belong in the same sentence.
I disagree that it's bold at all: Wagon starter is the safest place to be in any competing wagon.
KJ jumping on it after his scumteam had would actually be a good point. But. Yeah.
I think it was Dork in the spec of Realms (where I was scum) that was going "why aren't people scumreading sloth for wanting to end the Day early, wasn't he against it in the past?"
Which just goes to show how little Dork knows how to read me: I haven't been interested in prioritizing the entirety of the Day be used in quite a while - I've seen town talk themselves out of the correct choice way too many times for me to like the idea, and I never have wanted it when the conclusion is obvious and certain (i.e. now).
Main difference is in Realms (iirc) you said that as a semi-joke in RVS and obviously did not actually care (much), here you are actually trying to maintain a fast pace and prevent pointless lulls.
Oh, no. I was 100% serious then too, promise.
I mean when there's actually stuff to discuss, by all means, keep it going.
But I rarely find that that's the case for games with 2-week long Days. Usually you only need half as long, if that. But I digress.
(1) KJ is far more likely to be the mafia's useful idiot than to be scum. (2) In terms of actually having a scum agenda and fitting perfectly in a team with both dead scum, Grape >>>(a million >s)>>> Killjoy.
Therefore I am NOT voting KJ before Grape. I don't care about your 3-players consensus when we could just end the game toDay in a perfect town win.
(1) I don't mean to be mean but that's kind of how I usually see Grape's town game. Maybe not idiot, morel ike...unintentionally scummy.
(2) Dude did you miss the scum agenda I've been pointing out on KJ? Sighhhhh...
Either way, if people jump to Grape, I'll hammer. Like I said, if I'm wrong great, game over. If I'm right I get to lord it over everyone.
That's what we call a win/win.
@ALL you have 2 hours to make any final posts and/or thoughts, then I'll hammer.
Although, I do want to bring this up again to our dear mod:
All of his posts have been saying that the best way to get his attention is via Discord.
already done.
Honestly, I'd still prefer KJ but whatever gets the game rolling.
Again, all I said is that I'd hammer - if you'd like to give him the chance to talk, all you gotta do is unvote.
Why are we ending the day so soon? WTF guys? We have new information. We need to analyze it. I have some posts I want to make, but can't make them till Wed.
I think town has three more useful idiots than me ZDS.
At least if we lose, I can at least say I tried to win.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
Specifically Sloth's apathy is on the border of irritating and toxic. [/rant]
Also yeah, that's a Janitor. My guess is it's worded like HR's role, where if they make the kill, Janitor things happen instead of strongman.
Now, on ZDS: I'm Beetlejuice, Town Ability Investigator.
I have a one shot that tells me the classification of a player's role: cop-ish, doc-ish, or not-either-ish (paraphrased). Unfortunately he came up the third result, so he could be the janitor. Obviously this also means that he didn't use his ability if it's real N2. I was kinda hoping for one of the other two results after I saw the flip since that would proclude him from being scum and would be useful. It was not though.
His rationale for not shooting is believable/fine though.
ZDS: I'm not immediately seeing you're point on you being cleared. That's the kind of analysis I plan to do on Wed though.
Also, 1194 is specifically the kind of post I criticized you for never making. lol.
IDK how you can say three of your PoE has made an effort to scumhunt though. That's BS. IDK about Ter, honestly. Her playstyle is foreign to me and IDK what her scumhunting looks like, but SLOTH? I call BS. He's put no thought into his scumread of me. None. I call BS (a second time, for emphasis.)
FTR: Grapes in my POE too, but if that's wrong then this game likely turns into an unanalytical PoEfest that results in a loss, and I've tried too hard to let that happen.
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I still think Ter is spewed town by either HR himself, or if you prefer, a combo of him and Rhand.
Thinking about it more, Sloth's apathy makes him more likely town than not. I just got done with Elderlings where he cared too much. to go from that to this level of apathy is unlikely, and (no offense) but I don't think scum!him is good enough to fake this. Especially since his play in Elderlings was meant to simulate indifference, when he wasn't by far.
ZDS/Grape is my POE with a tingly feeling for the highly-unlikely-for-brownie-points-if-I-called-it deepwolfVaimes. I'd still reanalyze before voting him if the other two were dead, obviously though. He's VERY unlikely, but paranoia enducing. It requires... quite a bit of... interesting things to have happened.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Now, on ZDS: I'm Beetlejuice, Town Ability Investigator.
I have a one shot that tells me the classification of a player's role: cop-ish, doc-ish, or not-either-ish (paraphrased).
What the **** kind of role is that?
Also, I don't like Sloth trying to rush everything, but chill. You don't need to fearmonger that we're on the verge of losing when we've literally killed 2/3 of the scumteam in the first two Day phases.
ZDS makes himself and his target ascetic. Ecophagy was an ascetic vigilante.
If the last scum is a Janitor of some sort, what is the point of all this asceticism? The strongman is useless because ascetics only block non-killing abilities. They'd block Rhand, but Rhand wouldn't targt villagers anyways.
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Mine is also not on that list. Vaimes "crumbed" flavor isn't. And Sloth's full of ***** on his
ZDS makes himself and his target ascetic. Ecophagy was an ascetic vigilante.
If the last scum is a Janitor of some sort, what is the point of all this asceticism? The strongman is useless because ascetics only block non-killing abilities. They'd block Rhand, but Rhand wouldn't targt villagers anyways.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
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Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
Flips
Robocop
Top Gun
E.T.
Nightmare on Elm Street
Mine is also not on that list. Vaimes "crumbed" flavor isn't. And Sloth's full of ***** on his
Repeating this again: I already crumbled my role at the start of the game.
I am also not clue.
Also yeah what is the point of asking us our favorite 80s movie if we weren't going to use it >=
ZDS makes himself and his target ascetic. Ecophagy was an ascetic vigilante.
If the last scum is a Janitor of some sort, what is the point of all this asceticism? The strongman is useless because ascetics only block non-killing abilities. They'd block Rhand, but Rhand wouldn't targt villagers anyways.
Are ascetic and janitors related in some way? Could it nullify the janitor power since it's not a killing power?
I'm not sure. It is possible Axel's role is just unflippable on its own, but I doubt it due to <redacted>.
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Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
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Robocop
Top Gun
E.T.
Nightmare on Elm Street
Mine is also not on that list. Vaimes "crumbed" flavor isn't. And Sloth's full of ***** on his
Repeating this again: I already crumbled my role at the start of the game.
I am also not clue.
Also yeah what is the point of asking us our favorite 80s movie if we weren't going to use it >=
I know that’s why I said your full of ***** with all the clue posting.
Why are we ending the day so soon? WTF guys? We have new information. We need to analyze it. I have some posts I want to make, but can't make them till Wed.
I think town has three more useful idiots than me ZDS.
At least if we lose, I can at least say I tried to win.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
Specifically Sloth's apathy is on the border of irritating and toxic. [/rant]
Also yeah, that's a Janitor. My guess is it's worded like HR's role, where if they make the kill, Janitor things happen instead of strongman.
Now, on ZDS: I'm Beetlejuice, Town Ability Investigator.
I have a one shot that tells me the classification of a player's role: cop-ish, doc-ish, or not-either-ish (paraphrased). Unfortunately he came up the third result, so he could be the janitor. Obviously this also means that he didn't use his ability if it's real N2. I was kinda hoping for one of the other two results after I saw the flip since that would proclude him from being scum and would be useful. It was not though.
His rationale for not shooting is believable/fine though.
Ignoring the tantrum.
You role is silly, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue. Just. What an annoying role to have, if true.
ZDS: I'm not immediately seeing you're point on you being cleared. That's the kind of analysis I plan to do on Wed though.
Also, 1194 is specifically the kind of post I criticized you for never making. lol.
IDK how you can say three of your PoE has made an effort to scumhunt though. That's BS. IDK about Ter, honestly. Her playstyle is foreign to me and IDK what her scumhunting looks like, but SLOTH? I call BS. He's put no thought into his scumread of me. None. I call BS (a second time, for emphasis.)
FTR: Grapes in my POE too, but if that's wrong then this game likely turns into an unanalytical PoEfest that results in a loss, and I've tried too hard to let that happen.
It really doesn't matter to me if you call it BS, but what about my scumread on you seems thoughtless? If thoughtless, why have people sheeped me on it? Do they agree and are full of ***** too or are they just doing it to shut me up?
If Grape flips town, you go toMorrow. This is not up for debate. There won't be a PoEfest before this point and that should be obvious to you by now.
You have not tried in an particular way I would call hard, in a pro-town world. You've tried hard, but as easily scum.
Thinking about it more, Sloth's apathy makes him more likely town than not. I just got done with Elderlings where he cared too much. to go from that to this level of apathy is unlikely, and (no offense) but I don't think scum!him is good enough to fake this. Especially since his play in Elderlings was meant to simulate indifference, when he wasn't by far.
Scum me is perfectly capable of putting a front of apathy.
And if you are actually making the hilarious attempt to argue that I was trying to appear indifferent in Elderlings, you were either not reading that game of gaslighting to an insane degree.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
What am I doing that warrants you wanting me to replace? I'm not advocating your yeet because I don't want to play the game. I'm not advocating ending the Day early because I don't want to play the game. I'm not compromising on a Grape yeet because I don't want to play the game.
All of that I'm doing because I legitimately think that's the best game-winning strategy we have available. And I explained why I believe this. I don't think there's anything that can be said over the next 8+ days that will change these facts.
I believe yeeting you wins the game. So I work towards that.
I believe if I'm wrong, yeeting Grape wins the game. I am ok with yeeting him instead today and seeing what happens because that's what other players are more interested in.
I believe trying to change people's minds serves no purpose when it's easier to speed-yeet the vote of you. It's simpler and more efficient.
I believe that if I'm wrong and neither of you are scum, then things are worth revisiting. Not before. So that's another reason to get to that possible world quicker
All of this, including me checking to game constantly on my phone even though I hate doing that on this site, I'm doing because I believe it's the best way to play this game and not because I don't want to play it.
Don't ever presume to tell me what I want.
I won't bring this topic up again, so, you know.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
What am I doing that warrants you wanting me to replace? I'm not advocating your yeet because I don't want to play the game. I'm not advocating ending the Day early because I don't want to play the game. I'm not compromising on a Grape yeet because I don't want to play the game.
All of that I'm doing because I legitimately think that's the best game-winning strategy we have available. And I explained why I believe this. I don't think there's anything that can be said over the next 8+ days that will change these facts.
I believe yeeting you wins the game. So I work towards that.
I believe if I'm wrong, yeeting Grape wins the game. I am ok with yeeting him instead today and seeing what happens because that's what other players are more interested in.
I believe trying to change people's minds serves no purpose when it's easier to speed-yeet the vote of you. It's simpler and more efficient.
I believe that if I'm wrong and neither of you are scum, then things are worth revisiting. Not before. So that's another reason to get to that possible world quicker
All of this, including me checking to game constantly on my phone even though I hate doing that on this site, I'm doing because I believe it's the best way to play this game and not because I don't want to play it.
Don't ever presume to tell me what I want.
I won't bring this topic up again, so, you know.
Sorry dude. These past couple days have been a little trying for me. I didn't mean to take it out on you. I'm cranky, and won't bring it up again either
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
What am I doing that warrants you wanting me to replace? I'm not advocating your yeet because I don't want to play the game. I'm not advocating ending the Day early because I don't want to play the game. I'm not compromising on a Grape yeet because I don't want to play the game.
All of that I'm doing because I legitimately think that's the best game-winning strategy we have available. And I explained why I believe this. I don't think there's anything that can be said over the next 8+ days that will change these facts.
I believe yeeting you wins the game. So I work towards that.
I believe if I'm wrong, yeeting Grape wins the game. I am ok with yeeting him instead today and seeing what happens because that's what other players are more interested in.
I believe trying to change people's minds serves no purpose when it's easier to speed-yeet the vote of you. It's simpler and more efficient.
I believe that if I'm wrong and neither of you are scum, then things are worth revisiting. Not before. So that's another reason to get to that possible world quicker
All of this, including me checking to game constantly on my phone even though I hate doing that on this site, I'm doing because I believe it's the best way to play this game and not because I don't want to play it.
Don't ever presume to tell me what I want.
I won't bring this topic up again, so, you know.
Sorry dude. These past couple days have been a little trying for me. I didn't mean to take it out on you. I'm cranky, and won't bring it up again either
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I supposed if I ask if you've used your ability you'd cackle at me and continue on with your existence?
Correct, unless you can give me an actual case for why any role I could claim at this point would make me scum even after considering how I've played this game.
There's only one reason I can think of why you'd be concerned, based on what I know, which is why I'm telling you to shush.
Sigh. Just an FYI, based on his posting history and ISO, Grape usually would have posted at least a few times between soD and now. I'm assuming he's busy.
Could have ended the Day already, but noooo, had to be a good sport and respect other players' wishes.
...I mean yes, that's a good thing. But I'm feeling lazy.
On an actual game-relevant pov, not super impressed with the developments since, but it ties back to my original point, so not surprised.
I'm honestly saying "dude, it's cool. We believe you. But I just think KJ's more likely."
I mean, you've already said you'd prefer Grape, right?
I knew it!
So according to you the entire scumteam together started and pushed the small Jack wagon on Day 1?
That would be extremely bold of Killjoy in particular (the wagon starter), and "bold" and "Killjoy" do not belong in the same sentence.
I'm sorry for not being sorry for not caring .
Well you're the cop after all, of course you'd have better reads than a butler.
As a bonus, if Grape is scum that explains why HR was initially so meek Day 2. Grape had "bussed" Rhand and voted him straight away. It's not discriminatory (Sloth could be scum by that standard ) but it makes sense in terms of team dynamics.
Main difference is in Realms (iirc) you said that as a semi-joke in RVS and obviously did not actually care (much), here you are actually trying to maintain a fast pace and prevent pointless lulls.
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KJ is far more likely to be the mafia's useful idiot than to be scum.
In terms of actually having a scum agenda and fitting perfectly in a team with both dead scum, Grape >>>(a million >s)>>> Killjoy.
Therefore I am NOT voting KJ before Grape. I don't care about your 3-players consensus when we could just end the game toDay in a perfect town win.
Unvote, vote Grapefruit
KJ jumping on it after his scumteam had would actually be a good point. But. Yeah.
Oh, no. I was 100% serious then too, promise.
I mean when there's actually stuff to discuss, by all means, keep it going.
But I rarely find that that's the case for games with 2-week long Days. Usually you only need half as long, if that. But I digress.
(1) I don't mean to be mean but that's kind of how I usually see Grape's town game. Maybe not idiot, morel ike...unintentionally scummy.
(2) Dude did you miss the scum agenda I've been pointing out on KJ? Sighhhhh...
Either way, if people jump to Grape, I'll hammer. Like I said, if I'm wrong great, game over. If I'm right I get to lord it over everyone.
That's what we call a win/win.
Vote Grape
Cause grapes are purple and green
This seems...something. Meh.
@ALL you have 2 hours to make any final posts and/or thoughts, then I'll hammer.
Although, I do want to bring this up again to our dear mod:
...I mean to be fair it is anywhere betweetn 3:30 AM and 8:30 AM there.
Not sure it matters to me though...
Honestly, I'd still prefer KJ but whatever gets the game rolling.
Again, all I said is that I'd hammer - if you'd like to give him the chance to talk, all you gotta do is unvote.
I think town has three more useful idiots than me ZDS.
At least if we lose, I can at least say I tried to win.
God damn, guys. If you don't wanna play, replace. Seriously.
Specifically Sloth's apathy is on the border of irritating and toxic. [/rant]
Also yeah, that's a Janitor. My guess is it's worded like HR's role, where if they make the kill, Janitor things happen instead of strongman.
Now, on ZDS: I'm Beetlejuice, Town Ability Investigator.
I have a one shot that tells me the classification of a player's role: cop-ish, doc-ish, or not-either-ish (paraphrased). Unfortunately he came up the third result, so he could be the janitor. Obviously this also means that he didn't use his ability if it's real N2. I was kinda hoping for one of the other two results after I saw the flip since that would proclude him from being scum and would be useful. It was not though.
His rationale for not shooting is believable/fine though.
ZDS: I'm not immediately seeing you're point on you being cleared. That's the kind of analysis I plan to do on Wed though.
Also, 1194 is specifically the kind of post I criticized you for never making. lol.
IDK how you can say three of your PoE has made an effort to scumhunt though. That's BS. IDK about Ter, honestly. Her playstyle is foreign to me and IDK what her scumhunting looks like, but SLOTH? I call BS. He's put no thought into his scumread of me. None. I call BS (a second time, for emphasis.)
FTR: Grapes in my POE too, but if that's wrong then this game likely turns into an unanalytical PoEfest that results in a loss, and I've tried too hard to let that happen.
Reads:
I still think Ter is spewed town by either HR himself, or if you prefer, a combo of him and Rhand.
Thinking about it more, Sloth's apathy makes him more likely town than not. I just got done with Elderlings where he cared too much. to go from that to this level of apathy is unlikely, and (no offense) but I don't think scum!him is good enough to fake this. Especially since his play in Elderlings was meant to simulate indifference, when he wasn't by far.
ZDS/Grape is my POE with a tingly feeling for the highly-unlikely-for-brownie-points-if-I-called-it deepwolfVaimes. I'd still reanalyze before voting him if the other two were dead, obviously though. He's VERY unlikely, but paranoia enducing. It requires... quite a bit of... interesting things to have happened.
Also, I don't like Sloth trying to rush everything, but chill. You don't need to fearmonger that we're on the verge of losing when we've literally killed 2/3 of the scumteam in the first two Day phases.
If the last scum is a Janitor of some sort, what is the point of all this asceticism? The strongman is useless because ascetics only block non-killing abilities. They'd block Rhand, but Rhand wouldn't targt villagers anyways.
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Empire Strikes Back.
The Goonies
Clue
This Is Spinal Tap
The Thing
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Shining
Heathers
Friday the 13th
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
Flips
Robocop
Top Gun
E.T.
Nightmare on Elm Street
Mine is also not on that list. Vaimes "crumbed" flavor isn't. And Sloth's full of ***** on his
I'd ask "why would scum claim something so bad?" but.
I am also not clue.
Also yeah what is the point of asking us our favorite 80s movie if we weren't going to use it >=
I'm not sure. It is possible Axel's role is just unflippable on its own, but I doubt it due to <redacted>.
I know that’s why I said your full of ***** with all the clue posting.
Remaining players please correct me if I’m wrong
It seems like we're all one-shots, so having a one-shot janitor in a game with three possible ascetic targets is feelsbad.
You role is silly, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue. Just. What an annoying role to have, if true.
It really doesn't matter to me if you call it BS, but what about my scumread on you seems thoughtless? If thoughtless, why have people sheeped me on it? Do they agree and are full of ***** too or are they just doing it to shut me up?
If Grape flips town, you go toMorrow. This is not up for debate. There won't be a PoEfest before this point and that should be obvious to you by now.
You have not tried in an particular way I would call hard, in a pro-town world. You've tried hard, but as easily scum.
Scum me is perfectly capable of putting a front of apathy.
And if you are actually making the hilarious attempt to argue that I was trying to appear indifferent in Elderlings, you were either not reading that game of gaslighting to an insane degree.
What am I doing that warrants you wanting me to replace? I'm not advocating your yeet because I don't want to play the game. I'm not advocating ending the Day early because I don't want to play the game. I'm not compromising on a Grape yeet because I don't want to play the game.
All of that I'm doing because I legitimately think that's the best game-winning strategy we have available. And I explained why I believe this. I don't think there's anything that can be said over the next 8+ days that will change these facts.
I believe yeeting you wins the game. So I work towards that.
I believe if I'm wrong, yeeting Grape wins the game. I am ok with yeeting him instead today and seeing what happens because that's what other players are more interested in.
I believe trying to change people's minds serves no purpose when it's easier to speed-yeet the vote of you. It's simpler and more efficient.
I believe that if I'm wrong and neither of you are scum, then things are worth revisiting. Not before. So that's another reason to get to that possible world quicker
All of this, including me checking to game constantly on my phone even though I hate doing that on this site, I'm doing because I believe it's the best way to play this game and not because I don't want to play it.
Don't ever presume to tell me what I want.
I won't bring this topic up again, so, you know.
It is not between 7 am and 11 am in Australia. In case anyone was wondering.
Looked back at d1....am now concerned.
I supposed if I ask if you've used your ability you'd cackle at me and continue on with your existence?
(The answer is you can't, so shush.)
Sigh. Just an FYI, based on his posting history and ISO, Grape usually would have posted at least a few times between soD and now. I'm assuming he's busy.
Could have ended the Day already, but noooo, had to be a good sport and respect other players' wishes.
...I mean yes, that's a good thing. But I'm feeling lazy.
On an actual game-relevant pov, not super impressed with the developments since, but it ties back to my original point, so not surprised.