First and foremost, shoutout to LastWhisper for trying to shade me three times in a three hour span, when it was the morning on a Wednesday.
How did anyone townread you again?
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Doing gold, silver, bronze with my lynch choices so far:
Gold:
LastWhisper
Silver:
Gentleman Johnny
Bronze:
Bur
Vote LastWhisper.
LastWhisper was my second choice prior to his claim, and with his role claim he has outed himself as a non-town.The town win con is to kill threats to the town. This is a no-brainer.
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As for the others:
Gentleman_Johnny comes off as mafia. He also comes off as an angry Looney Tunes character.
KJ feels good for me, but ***** posting a bit much for me. Nullish
Give me more. I am grinding out these invoices.
So, to clarify, the day started less than 14 hours prior to this. Now he posts this like it's just a light shade; yet, over the next two hours, he goes from null read to claiming he’s mafia and actually quadruples down on this.
On Page 2.
Seriously.
He never lets up afterward. On post 218 - 136 posts later! - he provides this paper-thin justification:
Tammy questioning the town read on her is a relatively good look
@Vaimes: My core of hunting as town is basically boiled down to one fundamental question: Is this person trying to solve the game? Yes, they are town. No, they are wolf. I'll snag the occasional townie, but honestly, townies that aren't solving should be lynched more. Or get better at faking it, or I don't know. KJ's posts bother me because he will ask questions, and then do nothing with them. I also think he doesn't try to get people to follow him, and in particular, his response to me about no one doing anything just reads disdainfully.
He has half the team defending him from even questioning, so I don't really see a point in continuing. But I just roll my eyes and move on.
Holy *****, dude, it wasn’t even 24 hours since the first post of the day.
Then he starts throwing a temper tantrum? Did Killjoy run over your dog or something? Because that would at least provide some explanation for why you decided he wasn’t looking for mafia hard enough on page 2 of the ******* game and then proceeded to just harp on about it ever since.
It’s like a bad joke. It's like he's doing a bit, except it's clear he's serious. The only reason I’m not voting for him because we had a guy out himself as a non-town.
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Then there’s Bur. Bur’s posted 24 times so far and has managed to say nothing in all of that time. He’s being that poster who hangs back and makes posts that are either solely composed of questions to other users or are just nothing-posts. He feels like he’s hiding in plain sight by making posts that usually just deflect attention to other posters when they’re not just outright non-posts.
It’s also interesting to me that GJ would have an aneurysm over Killjoy but somehow reacts to Bur in a totally different manner.
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I’m going to put special notice for Slothful, because he deserves to be called out for this thing:
Also @all right off the bat, I'm advocating to reach majority as soon as it feels like a reasonably good bet, which will 100% be before a 2-week mark.
I understand the idea that we should make use of all the time available to make sure we're hitting scum.
On the other hand I cannot imagine a more boring hell than a 2-*******-week drag-along culminating in reaching a vote we knew we would reach several days ago.
My sweet spot is 5 days, btw. 7 for D1, and even that's like...ehhh.
”I think we should cut Day One in half for no reason!”
Sorry for inactivity these days, I will wait for the weekend to read through but from what I skimmed I saw Cantrip has just one post.
I hoped my RVS vote may bring me an idea of his alignament but I doubt it's effective after so much time.
The VC (post 164) showed him with 3 votes and I don't like this.
Sorry for inactivity these days, I will wait for the weekend to read through but from what I skimmed I saw Cantrip has just one post.
I hoped my RVS vote may bring me an idea of his alignament but I doubt it's effective after so much time.
The VC (post 164) showed him with 3 votes and I don't like this.
Unvote
I just noticed he has 2 posts but this doesn't change my idea
Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss. Keeping my vote, I didn't shade anyone also
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss. Keeping my vote, I didn't shade anyone also
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Wait, you steal vitality?
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Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss. Keeping my vote, I didn't shade anyone also
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Do you target people during the Day and during the Night and take 1/3 vitality each time?
I believe Wisp. I just finished a game co-hosted by him where I claimed neutral as mafia and Wisp was very adamant that that claim should have gotten me lynched. Him claiming neutral as mafia right after would be extremely weird.
Mafia will know what that ability is he’s looking for since they’ll have multiples of the same mechanic related ability Wisp is talking about unless he has only 1 mafia target in his grouping of 5. Might as well full claim @Wisp so town knows too.
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I am looking for witted people, there are 5 of them
They all have an ability which is an extension of the game mechanic, they can make permanent, limited chats with people, idk if its still costs vitality though, it doesn't say
Ok. Sounds legit.
What do you think about Tubba’s reaction to your initial claim?
no idea, might have opened a can of worms with this one, hard to tell the fake paranoia from the real, they are not wrong that I've fake claimed as a wolf in past games, but I think there thoughts on my claim don't hold as much care as did Highrollers thoughts, so I will read Tubba off other things, but given there realitively light posting style, it is kinda hard.
Highroller though, in my opinion falls into the trap of wanting to lynch a 3p claim first. There was no shade anywhere in my posts towards Highroller, his first post was mediocre, and he didn't come back, and then he reacts with omgus disguised as a real vote
I don't much agree with his Bur conclusion
GJ is fine, I am there as well, but I think its getting a bit overblown at this point,
Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss. Keeping my vote, I didn't shade anyone also
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Do you target people during the Day and during the Night and take 1/3 vitality each time?
I can only give a charm once a day, it takes 1 vitality for me to use
At night I can remove the charm from everyone that has one (by again using 1 Vit), taking 1 Vit from someone that's not my target, and 3 Vit for a person that is my target, and I heal Vit for that amount (because my role would be useless otherwise)
Anyone that has a charm, every day, I know when they send a private message to someone for the first time
It seems the best way to win with this role would be for no one to know about it. Which makes the decision to come out with it so early when no pressure was on you all the more baffling. To what end? To take the heat of GJ? Why would you care if GJ is taking heat? For all you know, he's one of the people you need to kill.
I think it would pretty bonkers to make this up as a mafioso, so I do believe you that you are neutral. But there's no reason for us to take the rest of your role at face value. Especially your win-con. The motivation just doesn't make sense to me.
and to answer your question, why do I care? because first it implicates me for literally no reason, and its a false pretense to push GJ, he has a fair share of good and bad posts, that don't involve our interactions. Highroller is probably more likely to be a wolf off a singular post anyways, and I'd rather flip that first, since I doubt GJ is a wolf in that world, he could very well be one my targets as well, I will know tonight if Cuth is one, and might target will probably be GJ tomorrow based on what happens today.
This is literally how my brain works, I stopped questioning it
Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss. Keeping my vote, I didn't shade anyone also
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Wait, you steal vitality?
are u worried?
There are very likely to be more abilities that steal vitality, and probably people that heal vitality, it's inevitable given the mechanics of this game I believe
GJ's indignant frustration makes me want to town read him, but I think I remember him acting similarly as scum. @GJ: Can you list past scum games on this site so I can try to refresh my memory?
Matters, Playstation, Battle Royal are all I can remember at this point.
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So, to clarify, the day started less than 14 hours prior to this. Now he posts this like it's just a light shade; yet, over the next two hours, he goes from null read to claiming he’s mafia and actually quadruples down on this.
Please state where I claimed he was mafia, or you are just purposefully bad faithing me here in an effort to bait. Appreciated
He never lets up afterward. On post 218 - 136 posts later! - he provides this paper-thin justification:
Because I am being asked for it, and in response to Vaimes. Why are you trying to bad faith make it look like I am continuing a push?
It’s also interesting to me that GJ would have an aneurysm over Killjoy but somehow reacts to Bur in a totally different manner.
It's almost like I am responding to posts one at a time in the same quote, before reading them. Or that Bur didn't misrepresent my point for the 10,000th time.
Because that would at least provide some explanation for why you decided he wasn’t looking for mafia hard enough on page 2 of the ******* game and then proceeded to just harp on about it ever since.
Almost like I keep getting asked about it. Even though when I am active posting (not responding), I am clearly moving on.
@Bur
can I ask you why you asked a question, that was literally stated in my post, and I don't even feel the tone I probably should've of gotten of someone that is actually surprised, it feels fake honestly
@Bur
can I ask you why you asked a question, that was literally stated in my post, and I don't even feel the tone I probably should've of gotten of someone that is actually surprised, it feels fake honestly
I legit didn't even think of that your abilities could use vitality to activate, so it seemed weird to me that you'd just steal vitality and end up with tons of it.
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@Circles
what do you think of Highroller's post on the top of this page?
Well his vote on you for being non-town and his calling out of Sloth for wanting to cut the day short both track for him.
His push against GJ seems overzealous and he seems to miss the fact that GJ was responding to people and characterizes GJ as not letting up, which isn't really fair. And then he makes a good point about Bur, but then just kinda uses it to take another stab at GJ. Could just be overzealous townie, but it's an eyebrow raiser, for sure. Definitely something I want to keep an eye on.
Is there something more specific you want me to respond to?
Idk anything about him meta-wise, personally it just feels like a cop-out wolf excuse to vote, we are rehashing the same points on GJ over and over at this point I believe, his comment on Sloth is pretty NAI for me
Why does Cantrip at this point with 1 post not partnered with Chad?
Why does the latter matter if you are clearly wolf reading me?
Addressing both this question and the “why is GJ with zero-posters?”
I just put you on the vaguely suspicious tier. Iso and Az are there because of you actually, you mentioned the champs rule so I’m floating it as a possibility.
I don’t scumread you, people just have wildly different opinions of you and I wanted to put you somewhere.
Oh and the Cantrip thing was because Chad over-exaggerated Cantrip’s postcount. Initial thought was “scum throwing shade” but then I was like “eh it could be bad distancing.”
@Vaimes: What is my correct acronym? :thinking_face:
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I feel good about Cantrip's first post.
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@Tubba: I played a cyberpunk MUD called SinDome for a while. Highly addicting. Check it out if that's your thing.
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GJ's reaction to Cantrip feels town, and I like his early analysis of Killjoy.
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Oh god Rhand is RPing.
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I dislike Silver's conclusion of "a wolf probably followed me on to Iso but totally ignore that." Probably scumbuddies with CropCircles.
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...why did I think fonti was in this game? Hm, weird.
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Scumleaning on Tammy for reasons I'm not ready to divulge, but it has to do with her exchange with Bur.
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If CC is scum, Rhand is town.
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Bur's not lurking so he's town.
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Per tradition, Whisp's posts generate an eternal mindfog for me when attempting to read them. Maybe I'll go over him again, someday.
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Kind of like Sloth's line of questionings. This one's a town lean, for me.
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If Whisp is scum, so is Rhand.
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I like Vaimes on page 3. I disagree with his Cantrip read, but I think he's playing like townVaimes. And yes, that's mostly a meta read.
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Also, Killjoy's "only in my dreams do I get to dunk on Iso" made me chortle, but I somehow missed that post until Vaimes quoted it.
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CC seems defensive in 128. Kind of don't like the lack of overall content from him, and coupled with his bad RVS, I will probably be voting him by the end of this read barring something groundbreaking happening by then.
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@GJ: I dunno, I think I've played the most Mafia games in here by sheer quantity, though things could have changed in my absence.
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I like that Sloth's reasoning for disliking CC in RVS mirrors my own. Town read on Sloth.
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Alright I guess Killjoy can have a town lean for /barning Sloth's logic on that too.
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Anyway, that's pages 2 and 3 for me. Not gonna place a vote until I'm caught up and know what the votecount is so that I don't pull an "oops Iso did an accidentally :awesome:" moment, but consider my vote on CC, for now.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Work meeting in an hour so I'm gonna try to focus on not responding to less relevant stuff. I forgot how time-consuming this game can be. -_-; Also, Tammy, tell Nacho I miss him and his Sol Badguy avatar gracing my presence.
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Ugh I don't like Bur showing emotion. Feels fake. Also don't like his lack of actually solving the game and going into math theory instead.
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It disturbs me that over 150 posts into the game and before I've actually made my first post, there are still 3 votes on me from RVS. Deeefinitely eyeing the three people still on there.
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The naked votes from Rhand on to Whisp and Whisp on to GJ do not instill me with confidence. I expect an explanation for those votes - I'll touch back on this if I remember and there hasn't been an acknowledgement of this in the following pages.
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Pretty sure Tammy is town.
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Okay so Whisp gave the flimsiest reasoning ever for voting Rhand. "IF Rhand is scum, then he's trying to pocket GJ." ...I'm sorry, but what? Did you really just make a vote with that rationale? You are now on my scum list.
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Note to self: None of Cuth's posts are standing out in my mind. I can't remember a single one.
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Ha, glad my 3 Little Pigs game is ringing some nostalgia bells for people.
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Strongly like Sloth's response to CC RE: numbers.
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I'm like, completely glazing over page 5, so far, and I'm only 7 posts in to it.
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GJ's response to 'Synonyms With Bur' amused me because that was also my reaction to reading that post. I guess I'm fine with GJ's play so far, even though I'm not necessarily agreeing with his reasoning on some of his reads.
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Read Tammy's 215 "I'm totally going to fence sit on GJ right now" as "face sit" and was like 'uhhhhh'. That said, I like her reads explanation post, solidifying her more firmly as town to me.
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STRONGLY dislike Silver encouraging FURTHER votes on someone who hadn't even posted at that time and then just not providing any actual content beyond that. And not just because the votes would have been pointed at me.
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Vaimes you should know better.
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I don't really understand Whisp's engagement of Highroller other than to "generate interactions" between the two of them. Bad look.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Dislike Silver's #276 and I like GJ's vote in response to it.
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Whisp's response to GJ in #283 is extremely uninspiring.
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Plan on providing any content, CC?
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Whisp's vote on Highroller, who stated he was going to read the game and post his thoughts feels completely useless at this stage in the game where there is tons of information off of which to base an actual, legitimate vote. He just keeps sinking further and further on my list in spite of his Rei avatar.
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Wait people are saying Killjoy hasn't been scum? I must have glazed over that but that is patently false - I have played with and against scumKilljoy on numerous occasions.
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Whisp waiting for Sloth to "bury someone" is not at all the mindset of somebody trying to solve the game.
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Silver using the term "iso" in #324 threw me for a loop because I forgot that was a thing and I was like "what do I have to do with this, I haven't even posted yet".
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GJ, I don't agree with your #326 - you have certainly "die scum"'d me, before, when you thought you had caught scumIso. Granted, you weren't willing to stake your neck on it, but it did very much happen.
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Hey Vaimes why do you think Chad is scum?
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@KJ: wat? only 12? I could have sworn we had played at least that many together, PLUS the games that I've hosted that you were in. Also, why did you have the exact opposite reaction to Whisp's Highroller vote that I had?
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@Rhand: I don't think Whisp and Chad are aligned if one of them is scum.
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Ah. So Whisp claimed Neutral. Well, that's fun [and by fun I mean that explains the utter lack of scumhunting]. What is your win condition?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Oh but now that catrip has posted and given his reasoning for his vote on me, cuth and vaimes can you say again why you didn't like it?
I have said why more than once now.
I don't know about "not town" but I certainly didn't get any warm fuzzies from Iso's catchup.
I liked his second catchup better than his first, so we'll see.
Sorry, I'm in the middle of grading and trying to keep up at the same time, so my mind is all over the place. I know you've said why. I remembered I wanted to comment on what Cuth said yesterday but I'll have to look for it. But, what did you mean by him being too experienced to make that first post? I think that was your comment, but I was holding off asking about it until he responded to the first bit.
It distresses me that CC is defending Silver's statement about townleaning the people voting me (not least of which because he was one of the people who jumped on that wagon) and didn't actually take issue with the statement in and of itself, rather than defending it to Killjoy. I think CC forgot how to play scum in his absence and is bungling his interactions. And he's STILL talking about math!!! Come on. Why is this guy not in claim range, yet?
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Ah so Whisp is claiming a Hitman-esque role. I feel he should claim his list - there is perhaps data to be gleaned from it. Whenever I designed a Hitman role, the majority of the people on their list were town, so I think we can utilize this. I would expect either a 3/2 split or a 4/1 with the latter being a lot less likely.
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I agree with Vaimes's #363.
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I see Silver has already touched on this. Odd that Whisp's role doesn't tell him who he needs to kill. Like...what the hell kind of Hitman doesn't know who's on their hitlist? I'm just going to play like he's an SK with extra info and we can deal with him when and if we haven't won when all the scum are dead.
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Whisp, if you have a killing ability, now is the time to claim it.
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Oh I guess that's a claim.
Okay he has a killing ability.
I definitely want him dead if we haven't won with 3-4 scum dead.
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I don't feel like Cantrip's catch-up post is all that he has to say about the game. Looking forward to more content from him.
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I think Highroller is town.
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@Vaimes What makes his vote fake? As for Az, he's someone whose opinion I very much want at this point in the game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Fake vote because he clearly just made up a reason. Everyone knew Cantrip only had one post, either by being observant or because Cuth and I had talked about it a bunch.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Fake vote because he clearly just made up a reason. Everyone knew Cantrip only had one post, either by being observant or because Cuth and I had talked about it a bunch.
Gotcha. Let me go back and try to parse that interaction to see how I feel about it.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I haven't elaborated on much of my reads, but since I agree with ~most of this I'll just toss out some quick thoughts: I don't super buy Cuth's sit-back-and-watch strategy as being legit, WMU is a pet scumread that I want to be sure isn't just an activity issue because they are otherwise quite nice to have around, and I very much agree with ~Highroller? that Bur seems like he's trying to look active without saying much.
No real opinion on CC, but if he rolled scum back to back in his first two games back, I'll chortle.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
First and foremost, shoutout to LastWhisper for trying to shade me three times in a three hour span, when it was the morning on a Wednesday.
How did anyone townread you again?
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Doing gold, silver, bronze with my lynch choices so far:
Gold:
LastWhisper
Silver:
Gentleman Johnny
Bronze:
Bur
Vote LastWhisper.
LastWhisper was my second choice prior to his claim, and with his role claim he has outed himself as a non-town.The town win con is to kill threats to the town. This is a no-brainer.
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As for the others:
Gentleman_Johnny comes off as mafia. He also comes off as an angry Looney Tunes character.
So, to clarify, the day started less than 14 hours prior to this. Now he posts this like it's just a light shade; yet, over the next two hours, he goes from null read to claiming he’s mafia and actually quadruples down on this.
On Page 2.
Seriously.
He never lets up afterward. On post 218 - 136 posts later! - he provides this paper-thin justification:
Holy *****, dude, it wasn’t even 24 hours since the first post of the day.
Then he starts throwing a temper tantrum? Did Killjoy run over your dog or something? Because that would at least provide some explanation for why you decided he wasn’t looking for mafia hard enough on page 2 of the ******* game and then proceeded to just harp on about it ever since.
It’s like a bad joke. It's like he's doing a bit, except it's clear he's serious. The only reason I’m not voting for him because we had a guy out himself as a non-town.
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Then there’s Bur. Bur’s posted 24 times so far and has managed to say nothing in all of that time. He’s being that poster who hangs back and makes posts that are either solely composed of questions to other users or are just nothing-posts. He feels like he’s hiding in plain sight by making posts that usually just deflect attention to other posters when they’re not just outright non-posts.
It’s also interesting to me that GJ would have an aneurysm over Killjoy but somehow reacts to Bur in a totally different manner.
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I’m going to put special notice for Slothful, because he deserves to be called out for this thing:
”I think we should cut Day One in half for no reason!”
… No. No, we should not.
I hoped my RVS vote may bring me an idea of his alignament but I doubt it's effective after so much time.
The VC (post 164) showed him with 3 votes and I don't like this.
Unvote
I just noticed he has 2 posts but this doesn't change my idea
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
Wait, you steal vitality?
Do you target people during the Day and during the Night and take 1/3 vitality each time?
Highroller though, in my opinion falls into the trap of wanting to lynch a 3p claim first. There was no shade anywhere in my posts towards Highroller, his first post was mediocre, and he didn't come back, and then he reacts with omgus disguised as a real vote
I don't much agree with his Bur conclusion
GJ is fine, I am there as well, but I think its getting a bit overblown at this point,
At night I can remove the charm from everyone that has one (by again using 1 Vit), taking 1 Vit from someone that's not my target, and 3 Vit for a person that is my target, and I heal Vit for that amount (because my role would be useless otherwise)
Anyone that has a charm, every day, I know when they send a private message to someone for the first time
I think it would pretty bonkers to make this up as a mafioso, so I do believe you that you are neutral. But there's no reason for us to take the rest of your role at face value. Especially your win-con. The motivation just doesn't make sense to me.
This is literally how my brain works, I stopped questioning it
what do you think of Highroller's post on the top of this page?
There are very likely to be more abilities that steal vitality, and probably people that heal vitality, it's inevitable given the mechanics of this game I believe
Matters, Playstation, Battle Royal are all I can remember at this point.
Please state where I claimed he was mafia, or you are just purposefully bad faithing me here in an effort to bait. Appreciated
Because I am being asked for it, and in response to Vaimes. Why are you trying to bad faith make it look like I am continuing a push?
It's almost like I am responding to posts one at a time in the same quote, before reading them. Or that Bur didn't misrepresent my point for the 10,000th time.
Almost like I keep getting asked about it. Even though when I am active posting (not responding), I am clearly moving on.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
can I ask you why you asked a question, that was literally stated in my post, and I don't even feel the tone I probably should've of gotten of someone that is actually surprised, it feels fake honestly
Why does Cantrip at this point with 1 post not partnered with Chad?
Why does the latter matter if you are clearly wolf reading me?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I legit didn't even think of that your abilities could use vitality to activate, so it seemed weird to me that you'd just steal vitality and end up with tons of it.
Nope. Wolves are 100% ok with me going down.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
His push against GJ seems overzealous and he seems to miss the fact that GJ was responding to people and characterizes GJ as not letting up, which isn't really fair. And then he makes a good point about Bur, but then just kinda uses it to take another stab at GJ. Could just be overzealous townie, but it's an eyebrow raiser, for sure. Definitely something I want to keep an eye on.
Is there something more specific you want me to respond to?
His point on Bur is fair
and not really, thanks for responding
@Circles
anyways I got work soon
I just put you on the vaguely suspicious tier. Iso and Az are there because of you actually, you mentioned the champs rule so I’m floating it as a possibility.
I don’t scumread you, people just have wildly different opinions of you and I wanted to put you somewhere.
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I feel good about Cantrip's first post.
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@Tubba: I played a cyberpunk MUD called SinDome for a while. Highly addicting. Check it out if that's your thing.
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GJ's reaction to Cantrip feels town, and I like his early analysis of Killjoy.
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Oh god Rhand is RPing.
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I dislike Silver's conclusion of "a wolf probably followed me on to Iso but totally ignore that." Probably scumbuddies with CropCircles.
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...why did I think fonti was in this game? Hm, weird.
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Scumleaning on Tammy for reasons I'm not ready to divulge, but it has to do with her exchange with Bur.
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If CC is scum, Rhand is town.
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Bur's not lurking so he's town.
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Per tradition, Whisp's posts generate an eternal mindfog for me when attempting to read them. Maybe I'll go over him again, someday.
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Kind of like Sloth's line of questionings. This one's a town lean, for me.
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If Whisp is scum, so is Rhand.
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I like Vaimes on page 3. I disagree with his Cantrip read, but I think he's playing like townVaimes. And yes, that's mostly a meta read.
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Also, Killjoy's "only in my dreams do I get to dunk on Iso" made me chortle, but I somehow missed that post until Vaimes quoted it.
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CC seems defensive in 128. Kind of don't like the lack of overall content from him, and coupled with his bad RVS, I will probably be voting him by the end of this read barring something groundbreaking happening by then.
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@GJ: I dunno, I think I've played the most Mafia games in here by sheer quantity, though things could have changed in my absence.
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I like that Sloth's reasoning for disliking CC in RVS mirrors my own. Town read on Sloth.
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Alright I guess Killjoy can have a town lean for /barning Sloth's logic on that too.
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Anyway, that's pages 2 and 3 for me. Not gonna place a vote until I'm caught up and know what the votecount is so that I don't pull an "oops Iso did an accidentally :awesome:" moment, but consider my vote on CC, for now.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't think he's town
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Ugh I don't like Bur showing emotion. Feels fake. Also don't like his lack of actually solving the game and going into math theory instead.
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It disturbs me that over 150 posts into the game and before I've actually made my first post, there are still 3 votes on me from RVS. Deeefinitely eyeing the three people still on there.
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The naked votes from Rhand on to Whisp and Whisp on to GJ do not instill me with confidence. I expect an explanation for those votes - I'll touch back on this if I remember and there hasn't been an acknowledgement of this in the following pages.
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Pretty sure Tammy is town.
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Okay so Whisp gave the flimsiest reasoning ever for voting Rhand. "IF Rhand is scum, then he's trying to pocket GJ." ...I'm sorry, but what? Did you really just make a vote with that rationale? You are now on my scum list.
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Note to self: None of Cuth's posts are standing out in my mind. I can't remember a single one.
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Ha, glad my 3 Little Pigs game is ringing some nostalgia bells for people.
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Strongly like Sloth's response to CC RE: numbers.
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I'm like, completely glazing over page 5, so far, and I'm only 7 posts in to it.
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GJ's response to 'Synonyms With Bur' amused me because that was also my reaction to reading that post. I guess I'm fine with GJ's play so far, even though I'm not necessarily agreeing with his reasoning on some of his reads.
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Read Tammy's 215 "I'm totally going to fence sit on GJ right now" as "face sit" and was like 'uhhhhh'. That said, I like her reads explanation post, solidifying her more firmly as town to me.
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STRONGLY dislike Silver encouraging FURTHER votes on someone who hadn't even posted at that time and then just not providing any actual content beyond that. And not just because the votes would have been pointed at me.
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Vaimes you should know better.
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I don't really understand Whisp's engagement of Highroller other than to "generate interactions" between the two of them. Bad look.
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And that's pages 4 and 5.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
ur rong
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Starting pages 6 and 7.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Silver's #256: wat.
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I'm fine with Chad's #260.
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Grah, I want Az to post.
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Fine with GJ's #275.
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Dislike Silver's #276 and I like GJ's vote in response to it.
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Whisp's response to GJ in #283 is extremely uninspiring.
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Plan on providing any content, CC?
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Whisp's vote on Highroller, who stated he was going to read the game and post his thoughts feels completely useless at this stage in the game where there is tons of information off of which to base an actual, legitimate vote. He just keeps sinking further and further on my list in spite of his Rei avatar.
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Wait people are saying Killjoy hasn't been scum? I must have glazed over that but that is patently false - I have played with and against scumKilljoy on numerous occasions.
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Whisp waiting for Sloth to "bury someone" is not at all the mindset of somebody trying to solve the game.
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Silver using the term "iso" in #324 threw me for a loop because I forgot that was a thing and I was like "what do I have to do with this, I haven't even posted yet".
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GJ, I don't agree with your #326 - you have certainly "die scum"'d me, before, when you thought you had caught scumIso. Granted, you weren't willing to stake your neck on it, but it did very much happen.
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Hey Vaimes why do you think Chad is scum?
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@KJ: wat? only 12? I could have sworn we had played at least that many together, PLUS the games that I've hosted that you were in. Also, why did you have the exact opposite reaction to Whisp's Highroller vote that I had?
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@Rhand: I don't think Whisp and Chad are aligned if one of them is scum.
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Ah. So Whisp claimed Neutral. Well, that's fun [and by fun I mean that explains the utter lack of scumhunting]. What is your win condition?
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And that's pages 6 and 7.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't know about "not town" but I certainly didn't get any warm fuzzies from Iso's catchup.
I liked his second catchup better than his first, so we'll see.
Sorry, I'm in the middle of grading and trying to keep up at the same time, so my mind is all over the place. I know you've said why. I remembered I wanted to comment on what Cuth said yesterday but I'll have to look for it. But, what did you mean by him being too experienced to make that first post? I think that was your comment, but I was holding off asking about it until he responded to the first bit.
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Ah so Whisp is claiming a Hitman-esque role. I feel he should claim his list - there is perhaps data to be gleaned from it. Whenever I designed a Hitman role, the majority of the people on their list were town, so I think we can utilize this. I would expect either a 3/2 split or a 4/1 with the latter being a lot less likely.
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I agree with Vaimes's #363.
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I see Silver has already touched on this. Odd that Whisp's role doesn't tell him who he needs to kill. Like...what the hell kind of Hitman doesn't know who's on their hitlist? I'm just going to play like he's an SK with extra info and we can deal with him when and if we haven't won when all the scum are dead.
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Whisp, if you have a killing ability, now is the time to claim it.
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Oh I guess that's a claim.
Okay he has a killing ability.
I definitely want him dead if we haven't won with 3-4 scum dead.
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I don't feel like Cantrip's catch-up post is all that he has to say about the game. Looking forward to more content from him.
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I think Highroller is town.
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@Vaimes What makes his vote fake? As for Az, he's someone whose opinion I very much want at this point in the game.
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Okay that settles it. Vote: CropCircles
No brakes, etc.
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I am caught up.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
From towniest to scummiest with Tubba starting the Nulls:
Slothful
Tammy
Vaimes
Rhand
Gentleman Johnny
Killjoy
Highroller
ChadMD
Tubba Fett
Cantripmancer
Azrael
Cuthalion
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Wisp
Bur
Silvercrys3467
CropCircles42
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think GJ made his ridiculous "rule of champs" comment around that point. If that's not correct, I can't remember what brought Az to mind.
Gotcha. Let me go back and try to parse that interaction to see how I feel about it.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
No real opinion on CC, but if he rolled scum back to back in his first two games back, I'll chortle.
Don't agree with either Chad or highroller being that high, I guess I don't hate GJ as much as I did, but his posts are still kinda meh
Idk how crop circles got there, but I also didn't read your walls yet, they will be later probably
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Btw what is "/s"? I've seen it brought up before and assumed it was in reference to the
strike tag, but now I'm not so sure.