I'm confused about how me offering another perspective is wolfy. I've seen mafia fakeclaim masons and they won because of it. I by no means think they are the play today. However, in a closed, weird setup like this, you can never tell if someone is lying about their roles, and I think everyone should keep that in mind about Amy and Tom
Well, I got nothing else, except to inform you that if you were hoping to get some info. from a Starling flip today, that won't be happening. Also, appreciate:
A letter to our Mod., who said there were bastard-ish elements in this game, and was not idding.
Notwithstanding the desire to have a wide variety of different types of roles in one's game, one should probably not include roles that actively disincentive the receiver of said role from playing. Games are more fun, in this way, not just for the Mod., but for all. Even otherwise very interesting and potentially enjoyable games are ruined by the feeling that one, from the very beginning, never actually had a chance.
Love, Axelrod
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
A letter to our Mod., who said there were bastard-ish elements in this game, and was not kidding. Notwithstanding the desire to have a wide variety of different types of roles in one's game, one should probably not include roles that actively disincentive the receiver of said role from playing. Games are more fun, in this way, not just for the Mod., but for all. Even otherwise very interesting and potentially enjoyable games ...never actually had a chance. Love, Axelrod
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Starling is just an obvious wolf at this point, the PoE Tom posted is a fine, but you arent winning this game, honestly, if you don't die sooner, it starts to become a problem for us
I'm gonna sit under the assumption that Kpaca is a wolf, no matter what happens
Ok, so Axel won’t be voting starling. His Tom push was a bust, so who now?
Every bone in my body is screaming Triss + WMU because they both seem to think flavor means anything in this game.
That being said with extra KP floating around a fake mason claim is guaranteed death for both when it could have only been death to one. For now, we have to assume they are telling the truth.
again there is still no counter-train which bothers me,
but it's funny how fast Tom's train went up
Starling chose to give up, so that is as much effort as I am going to do, to say he could be town, which has nothing to do with his posts, because it is clear his lack of posts makes a frozen wolf, and comments like the one on the masons, is someone hedging on their own TMI
But here's my thing: even if I was scum, trying to yeet me is so incredibly suboptimal. It would take you two Days to yeet me, leading to at least four town deaths judging by the amount of kp. We know that there are at least two other scum, by kp and Fonti's partner. Wouldn't it be wiser to go after those first?
Because even if I was scum, it would be better to get kp out of the way first. Because I'm not, that's spending two Days on a misyeet. I see no way that town wins after that
We had this exact same argument in the MC game. The Angel target was a mafia traitor. Clearing them on that basis is silly.
“ But here's my thing: even if I was scum, trying to yeet me is so incredibly suboptimal.”
^ Really don’t like this. If you’re scum, we HAVE to kill you eventually, and if we have no town KP then sooner is better than later when parity becomes a threat.
Ok, so Axel won’t be voting starling. His Tom push was a bust, so who now?
If I was inclined to go wolf-hunting again - which I am currently not - I would probably start with people who seemed unusually reluctant to vote for Tom, or who stated they were town-reading him for less than stellar reasons.
Because, dude did not do anything to get himself town-read, except by people who already knew it.
That said Mason claim looks good. Only caveats there are, (1) with a Town cop dead, as well as the town role-copier, it seems unlikely there is another alignment investigative, and (2) scum-Tom was going down anyway, so the mafia could have decided to take a gamble. If it works, no one looks at Tom or Amy again until it's possibly too late.
That's not what's most likely going on, it's just still out there because of the specific situation.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ok, so Axel won’t be voting starling. His Tom push was a bust, so who now?
If I was inclined to go wolf-hunting again - which I am currently not - I would probably start with people who seemed unusually reluctant to vote for Tom, or who stated they were town-reading him for less than stellar reasons.
Because, dude did not do anything to get himself town-read, except by people who already knew it.
That said Mason claim looks good. Only caveats there are, (1) with a Town cop dead, as well as the town role-copier, it seems unlikely there is another alignment investigative, and (2) scum-Tom was going down anyway, so the mafia could have decided to take a gamble. If it works, no one looks at Tom or Amy again until it's possibly too late.
That's not what's most likely going on, it's just still out there because of the specific situation.
I can’t imagine that gambit with an SK lurking around.
Axel, I'm curious what your flavor is, and if it makes sense with mine
I think it's interesting that everyone agrees that the other SK is also a Carrow but thinks that if I'm mafia the other Malfoy wouldn't be. I know that if DB had flipped mafia everyone would swear I was too because of it
Axel, I'm curious what your flavor is, and if it makes sense with mine
I think it's interesting that everyone agrees that the other SK is also a Carrow but thinks that if I'm mafia the other Malfoy wouldn't be. I know that if DB had flipped mafia everyone would swear I was too because of it
Fulcrum’s role PM included the other Carrow.
You’re grasping at straws.
@Rodemy: if Axel is lying we’ll know once Starling flips.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Hey Tom I’m all for counter wagons as a concept but how am I scummier than WMU or Triss or Starling? I’d support a counter wagon on either of those two but I can’t get behind you on this one and frankly am tempted to just hammer now so I don’t have to deal with a non-case by you just because you make an unsubstantiated claim that I fit teams that you literally have no information on. Like what teams do I fit on because I just don’t see it.
In the world where starling <isnt mafia> i think its usually you and terraine trying to hammer it through early
Possibly because youd already figured out he was axels target
And in the word where he is i think youre some amount more likely to be with him (though terraine is more likely carrow than you so i could be convinced either way for best counterwagon choice)
In the world where starling <isnt mafia> i think its usually you and terraine trying to hammer it through early
Possibly because youd already figured out he was axels target
And in the word where he is i think youre some amount more likely to be with him (though terraine is more likely carrow than you so i could be convinced either way for best counterwagon choice)
Vote: Starling
There. Sort it out tomorrow. "I wasn't planning on casing" sucks when you're basically confirmed town. It's still not registering to me how you think Triss and WMU are just out of the picture. Every time I see their posts it looks like that "Greetings Fellow Townies" GIF with the skateboard guy
In the world where starling <isnt mafia> i think its usually you and terraine trying to hammer it through early
Possibly because youd already figured out he was axels target
And in the word where he is i think youre some amount more likely to be with him (though terraine is more likely carrow than you so i could be convinced either way for best counterwagon choice)
Vote: Starling
There. Sort it out tomorrow. "I wasn't planning on casing" sucks when you're basically confirmed town. It's still not registering to me how you think Triss and WMU are just out of the picture. Every time I see their posts it looks like that "Greetings Fellow Townies" GIF with the skateboard guy
triss is starlings most likely partner
Wmu is like our team-building wildcard...
They are not out of the picture
For future reference, best counterwagon isnt a synonym for "second wolfiest person"
Me and amy have been in full poe mode for awhile
Thats what happens when you have more townclears than everyone else, and someone else to discuss that with
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
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@Tom
@Amy
can you explain this?
Forgot to do that lol
vote trisscar
If I did poe right,
it’s goo, tris, ter,
which is kinda what I’ve been saying.
If amy or him died and flipped scum at any time after it ties them together as partners
Since no one took me up on the general I shall ask in specific. Rod. Why do you think Star is town?
isn’t Star axels save target? I’m just assuming that’s a town thing
Is that the only thing that clears Star for you?
@Axelrod
I still don't get why star is town, and I am sorry your role is *****
There aren't even counter trains right now
Find me another wolf then
I'm gonna sit under the assumption that Kpaca is a wolf, no matter what happens
And on that note I’m off til tonight
Every bone in my body is screaming Triss + WMU because they both seem to think flavor means anything in this game.
That being said with extra KP floating around a fake mason claim is guaranteed death for both when it could have only been death to one. For now, we have to assume they are telling the truth.
Finding the 3p is going to be a bit difficult
best bet is associations to Fonti
I understand Triss, but what's the argument against WMU?
but it's funny how fast Tom's train went up
Starling chose to give up, so that is as much effort as I am going to do, to say he could be town, which has nothing to do with his posts, because it is clear his lack of posts makes a frozen wolf, and comments like the one on the masons, is someone hedging on their own TMI
but I don't believe that you flip town
My argument against WMU being a wolf? Attitude and post volume I guess? They usually freeze up if they are a wolf
Trisscar, I got nothing that is AI, like his mechanical player here is a him thing, but I don't how it translates to his alignment in itself
But here's my thing: even if I was scum, trying to yeet me is so incredibly suboptimal. It would take you two Days to yeet me, leading to at least four town deaths judging by the amount of kp. We know that there are at least two other scum, by kp and Fonti's partner. Wouldn't it be wiser to go after those first?
Because even if I was scum, it would be better to get kp out of the way first. Because I'm not, that's spending two Days on a misyeet. I see no way that town wins after that
“ But here's my thing: even if I was scum, trying to yeet me is so incredibly suboptimal.”
^ Really don’t like this. If you’re scum, we HAVE to kill you eventually, and if we have no town KP then sooner is better than later when parity becomes a threat.
Because, dude did not do anything to get himself town-read, except by people who already knew it.
That said Mason claim looks good. Only caveats there are, (1) with a Town cop dead, as well as the town role-copier, it seems unlikely there is another alignment investigative, and (2) scum-Tom was going down anyway, so the mafia could have decided to take a gamble. If it works, no one looks at Tom or Amy again until it's possibly too late.
That's not what's most likely going on, it's just still out there because of the specific situation.
I can’t imagine that gambit with an SK lurking around.
I think it's interesting that everyone agrees that the other SK is also a Carrow but thinks that if I'm mafia the other Malfoy wouldn't be. I know that if DB had flipped mafia everyone would swear I was too because of it
I think you are lying.
Fulcrum’s role PM included the other Carrow.
You’re grasping at straws.
@Rodemy: if Axel is lying we’ll know once Starling flips.
you realize we can test this theory by lynching Star, who looks super bad right now?
Axel is implying that he dies if we lynch Star
if we disbelieve axel we vote starling, because that confirms axel one way or the other
vote joeterry
Currently fits on the most teams or some *****
Starling (6) - Terr, orange, Amy, Last, rhand, Rodemy
Joe (1) - tom
Not Voting: Axelrod, JoeTerry, Trisscar, wmu, lagoon, starling
1 from elimination
In the world where starling <isnt mafia> i think its usually you and terraine trying to hammer it through early
Possibly because youd already figured out he was axels target
And in the word where he is i think youre some amount more likely to be with him (though terraine is more likely carrow than you so i could be convinced either way for best counterwagon choice)
There. Sort it out tomorrow. "I wasn't planning on casing" sucks when you're basically confirmed town. It's still not registering to me how you think Triss and WMU are just out of the picture. Every time I see their posts it looks like that "Greetings Fellow Townies" GIF with the skateboard guy
One of Osie's HP Fanfiction Recommendations:
Starling (7) - TerRaine, orangeandblack5, Ampharos, Lastwhisper, Rhand, Rodemy, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1) - tomsloger
Not Voting: Axelrod, gooLagoon, Starling, Trisscar, xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Lastwhisper - Rhand > Unvote > tomsloger > Starling > Ampharos > Starling > Unvote > tomsloger > TerRaine > tomsloger > Starling
Axelrod - tomsloger > Unvote
Ampharos - TerRaine > Starling
TerRaine - Starling
orangeandblack5 - Starling
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - Ampharos > Unvote
gooLagoon - tomsloger > Unvote
Starling - tomsloger > Unvote
Rhand - tomsloger > Unvote > Starling
tomsloger - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - Starling
Axelrod - 4+
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - 4+
orangeandblack5 - 4+
Starling - 4+
TerRaine - 4+
Trisscar - 4+
Ampharos - 4+
gooLagoon - 4+
tomsloger - 4+
Rhand - 4+
Rodemy - 4+
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - 4+
Night Start will come when I get back from work.
Wmu is like our team-building wildcard...
They are not out of the picture
For future reference, best counterwagon isnt a synonym for "second wolfiest person"
Me and amy have been in full poe mode for awhile
Thats what happens when you have more townclears than everyone else, and someone else to discuss that with
this is what happens when people vote with their emotions...
i'm also making a weird ask here:
rodemy, do not post again today
wolves need as little info as possible on where your NA's going
what a world that would be