...the next time I see you I'm gonna punch you right in the god damned throat. I hope you know that.
And I don't think its mostly feels. I think your priorities and the things you're attacking are weird.
...confused by your cross out. Are you seriously saying you've never mislynched me? Or that you're good at reading me in these games? Past two we've played you werent right in either of them
No, that was meant to be read as sarcasm.
Ok, where are my priorities? What about what I'm attacking is weird? Does weird mean scummy? Does what I'm saying make sense, despite being weird?
And yes it's based on some combination of echoing thoughts, thread mentality, and aforementioned gut feeling
I'll have to iso her later especially because (like so many others) she's refusing to explain things in detail when prompted and instead tells me to go read which is Very Helpful
Hm. Let me know when you get a chance to do this. We still have ~2 days left anyway.
Anyways I feel like Sloth's priorities have felt about the same as mine which, when coupled with his approach to other slots (particularly Jackrito and tom) gives me pretty good confidence we're approaching the game from the same angle, so
We've arrived at different conclusions on these and other players despite having the same information. That's some angle lol.
In light of that, I'm curious why you're not more suspicious that I could be scum twisting information.
Well pardon me but its kinda chafs my ass when I spend time typing up a post supporting my vote and putting thought into an argument only for days later to have people to go "eh I didn't read what you said but you're scum...now tell me if you think the person you're voting for is scum and why"
Aside from (questionably) Orange, who else has said this about you?
Lastwhisper has died! They were... Tom Riddle, ???? Riddle.
Welcome to the game! You are Tom Riddle.
As Lord Voldemort, you have made all around you fear you. Your cruelty and your control over your servants are rivaled only by your own insanity and your fear of death.
Whenever another player dies, you have a random chance to Revel. If you Revel, you will gain a 1-shot Dark Mark. That 1-shot can either be kept or used on a player as an extra Night Action to upgrade that player.
If you keep enough 1-shot Dark Marks, you may receive a reward!
If only Tom Riddle lives, you win. (You can still win with your alignment as normal.)
When you die, your alignment will not be revealed. Another random player of your alignment loses their current role and becomes a copy of you without this ability.
I still don't get it?
The taking over another player is not the same thing as choosing a target and taking away their ability. It's involuntary and only happens at death.
I...might still vote Bananas, just to resolve that for myself. Eh, voting someone who's clearly making such an effort feels gross but there's still time in the day anyway.
Re: Jack; I don't think he's being necessarily towncleared, but that Dork shot definitely didn't come from scum. 3p is possible but it becomes a lesser priority.
Vote me if you want, I don't mind. If I was scum replacing in I'd rather not get yeeted by my own play, and people actually pushing me can help me understand them better.
I agree it probably didn't come from scum, but 3rd party I think is more likely.
I don't think its the play today, but it seemed like a lot of people were just clearing Jack or letting him coast because of it which is not good for town IMO.
...the next time I see you I'm gonna punch you right in the god damned throat. I hope you know that.
And I don't think its mostly feels. I think your priorities and the things you're attacking are weird.
...confused by your cross out. Are you seriously saying you've never mislynched me? Or that you're good at reading me in these games? Past two we've played you werent right in either of them
No, that was meant to be read as sarcasm.
Ok, where are my priorities? What about what I'm attacking is weird? Does weird mean scummy? Does what I'm saying make sense, despite being weird?
(The internet is a magical place)
...we already hashed this out. I think you're defense of WMU's antics is off putting. I think you acting like my going after kpaca was weird is off putting. We keep going in circles on this. Its frustrates the hell out of me to keep gong over it and then no one batts an eye.
Same for the points I make about WMU. Some players go "I'm just going to ignore WMU/Ter thing"
Or when I agree with a common sense point of "it doesn't matter if I know I'm right as town I need to convince others" I'm just "pocketing"
Town aint listening to a damn thing I say so I'm not particularly motivated to bother blathering on and on. I'll cast my vote at this point and wait for flips. If this is scummy to y'all then so be it and lynch me but I'm tired of saying "here's my case" and being asked days later like orange and wmu "well what's your case? oh you don't want to do double the work. Pssh scum"
Speaking of which... Tubba Fett has been modkilled for repeated inactivity. Irregardless of their alignment, they can no longer win under any condition. Their role reveal will wait until a later, appropriate time.
Do not discuss circumstances surrounding modkills.
This is extremely rude. If Tubba flips scum, I’m going to vote you until one of us dies. Because you being scum with him is the only reason I can think of that mitigates that statement a bit.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
"Is snipping quotes a bit against the rules? I'ma be doing it here since I don't want anyone to have to suffer through reading unrelated quote threads."
Tbf I've been doing it for the same reason, have yet to hear anything. You may wanna DM Osie though if you'd rather be sure.
I asked and its all good. Got any mechanical analysis posts for me Trisscar? You seemed all about those last game. I can understand that its a lot harder to do in this cluster**** of a game setup though lol.
@WMU: when you say you haven’t read any of the ZDS games and “anything related to that Iso is just my general opinion on how scum!Terry would handle a meta to fit it in his narrative” – I just don’t understand that. It doesn’t show the effort to back up your conviction: How can you be so sure that Terry is twisting the narrative and that his assessment of ZDS isn’t accurate if you haven’t read it yourself?
I didn't sign up for this game to argue about meta and for sure I am not the one to go read other game just to proove an idea.
I don't feel to make this effort, and if you think this is needed to "back up my conviction", too bad, i won't go read anything.
Terry skimmed the Iso in the old game. I said it because my logic made me think at it and i am always posting my thoughts, and Terraine jumped at me, because i dared to "shade" Terry with the word skimming.
Later Terry came saying of course he skimmed, etc.
My idea is, why searching a meta, after you have a case and a vote for that player, just to come with the result of "he played the same as scum in X game", but you just skimmed so anyway you should not be sure about the result?
Isn't the case enough? Why is needed the focus on meta?
Except he wanted to cover himself for a mislynch, i can't see other reason for backing up the case with meta.
Finished getting all the way through btw. Took me a bit, and I'm super tired. I'll probably end up just not making a super long catch up post as it doesn't help me, and I don't think most of ya'll want to read through me going "oh wow what a town post from Fonti on page 2, oh wow that was invalidated by this post on page 106, Fonti must be an Osie alt account!" Its just not really my style of playing, so I wouldn't be able to generate much good content. I'll hit on that stuff if its actually relevant.
Idk if this speed of catching up is normal so i have to say i am envious (no shade included if anyone wants to misinterpret this).
I waited for your catching up post, will you post it today?
You seem to think its both infallible and a waste of time
This is one of my issues with this slot Tom.
Statement A: A town player can't POSSIBLY read another game's ISO and come up with a mislynch.
"Ok so you read the ISO?"
Statement B:
These don't match up. At all. Why would a town player who is so certain in their conviction that meta reads are exact infallible science dismiss going to look at them.
Lastwhisper has died! They were... Tom Riddle, ???? Riddle.
Welcome to the game! You are Tom Riddle.
As Lord Voldemort, you have made all around you fear you. Your cruelty and your control over your servants are rivaled only by your own insanity and your fear of death.
Whenever another player dies, you have a random chance to Revel. If you Revel, you will gain a 1-shot Dark Mark. That 1-shot can either be kept or used on a player as an extra Night Action to upgrade that player.
If you keep enough 1-shot Dark Marks, you may receive a reward!
If only Tom Riddle lives, you win. (You can still win with your alignment as normal.)
When you die, your alignment will not be revealed. Another random player of your alignment loses their current role and becomes a copy of you without this ability.
I still don't get it?
The taking over another player is not the same thing as choosing a target and taking away their ability. It's involuntary and only happens at death.
I didn’t say he chose a target.
Whoever gets randomed (from Riddle’s alignment) becomes Riddle and loses their role.
That would be devastating for a mafia team.
Finished getting all the way through btw. Took me a bit, and I'm super tired. I'll probably end up just not making a super long catch up post as it doesn't help me, and I don't think most of ya'll want to read through me going "oh wow what a town post from Fonti on page 2, oh wow that was invalidated by this post on page 106, Fonti must be an Osie alt account!" Its just not really my style of playing, so I wouldn't be able to generate much good content. I'll hit on that stuff if its actually relevant.
Idk if this speed of catching up is normal so i have to say i am envious (no shade included if anyone wants to misinterpret this).
I waited for your catching up post, will you post it today?
I won't be making a catching up post. As I said in the post you quoted they don't help me, I've got hand notes with general thoughts and a few page numbers to read back through. I don't think most people want to read through another replacements catching up post thing, and I'd rather just jump into the game and work on getting more info on my reads than going back over just things I noticed in a giant post. I'll be working in what I saw into my posts, not making a dedicated catch up post.
Hopefully this is clear for you, I saw you don't speak english as a first language which has to make this game even harder. I remember trying to do raids with people who spoke different languages and it was always rough to communicate, so I wish you luck. I know I can be confusing sometimes, so if you need clarification on anything I saw feel free to ask.
Heh this is just wrong.
She puts ZDS, who she never voted, on the bottom of the readslist and then has no qualms whatsoever to jump on the konan train while it’s taking off in a hurry.
Looks like pure opportunism to me.
Do you not see that Konan was right above ZDS there? I could understand your push here if Konan was higher up, or Raine gave reasoning that made it look like they thought ZDS was way worse than Konan, but to me a first and second scum I'm totally fine to vote for both especially when you need 11 people to yeet. Whats the scum motivation here? They are both town, so why would a scum TerRaine care about not voting for town ZDS and instead voting for town Konan? If anything, I think they would probably rather be on the unsuccessful counter-wagon if they knew the other wagon was going to flip town if they had a good reason to do so like that person being at the bottom of a readslist.
The ZDS non-vote was not voting a slowly growing wagon. I think she had trouble formulating a vote that wouldn’t look bad after a town flip.
The Konan vote was a bandwagon vote when everyone was jumping on the bandwagon. Didn’t stand out at all and easy to defend afterwards because everyone was doing it.
If her placement of ZDS was truthful, then as town she wouldn’t have had a problem voting there.
That makes mores sense, thanks for clarifying. Looking at it with the context of the moment, I do see more shade from Raine on ZDS with her vote on Konan sticking.
@TerTaine - Is there a reason for you being on Konan over ZDS? Why was ZDS lower than Konan in your list there?
Because at the time i scum read them both but konan seemed to be stronger more momentumfilled wagon. I weighed my confidence on zds against that of the other people on konan wagon. That seemed to be the better choice. I felt scum on both but I only have one vote so I went with konan.
Because at the time i scum read them both but konan seemed to be stronger more momentumfilled wagon. I weighed my confidence on zds against that of the other people on konan wagon. That seemed to be the better choice. I felt scum on both but I only have one vote so I went with konan.
Again...the irony of this is annoying
That doesn’t explain why you never voted ZDS before Konan was a wagon
This argument is basically I’m the stupidest scum alive and would put myself between the two town wagons knowing they’d flip town and implicate myself to that level. I may suck at being Town but I’m not a god damned idiot like this implies
Because at the time i scum read them both but konan seemed to be stronger more momentumfilled wagon. I weighed my confidence on zds against that of the other people on konan wagon. That seemed to be the better choice. I felt scum on both but I only have one vote so I went with konan.
Again...the irony of this is annoying
What was the irony again?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Hey Guys (and Gals), I'm sorry for the no participation today. Busy IRL. This is a post to avoid prod. I'll try to be meaningful tonight, or tomorrow AM at the latest. Thanks!
why tf is every ad for Trump
who decided MtG was the best place to spend those advertising dollars
why
...This is gonna require a lengthy wall, I'll post it next.
@Sloth "When you die, your alignment will not be revealed. Another random player of your alignment loses their current role and becomes a copy of you without this ability."
I think they mean "vanillaizer" in this case because it removes your old abilities, and doesn't at least appear to give you anything to replace them?
"Is snipping quotes a bit against the rules? I'ma be doing it here since I don't want anyone to have to suffer through reading unrelated quote threads."
Tbf I've been doing it for the same reason, have yet to hear anything. You may wanna DM Osie though if you'd rather be sure.
I asked and its all good. Got any mechanical analysis posts for me Trisscar? You seemed all about those last game. I can understand that its a lot harder to do in this cluster**** of a game setup though lol.
...Maaaannnnn, I've spent so much time looking at HP stuff over the years that I can't do anything but flavor game the crap out of this setup, and I'm pretty sure Osie asked us NOT to do that. Seriously if people told me who their role pms said they were as HP characters, I could probably figure out everyone's abilities (though not alignments) in about an hour, bar a few curve balls that I'm sure were thrown in for that reason.
why tf is every ad for Trump
who decided MtG was the best place to spend those advertising dollars
why
Hoookay, buckle up yall.
So odds are this site's ads are "powered" by Google Adsense, which takes all the data Google gathers from search history, Youtube video watching habits, email contents, various scripts it runs on just about every site you visit, and anything else you don't specifically block them from; and feeds it all into an algorithm that also takes into account your recorded (by Google) age, sex, gender, ancestry, location, languages spoken, and a ton of other points of data and spits out what it thinks you'll respond the best (or just the most, in the case of Youtube) to.
Except NOW take into account that Google can decide to kinda lean on the algorithm if they get paid enough. And consider how many rich nonsense people still back Trump, including himself.
This is why I run things like Adblock+ and Noscript and a few other things that stop most of this tracking, along with avoiding Facebook and Twitter and Zoom, and never putting accurate information into things that don't absolutely need it. Currently Google is not at all sure what most of the things I mentioned are for me in particular, and I keep physical space between my devices as "air gap security". My interests don't really mirror the concept of my particular demographic anyway, so this is more to reduce annoyance than anything else.
Also the internet is indeed magical, kinda like Terraria's Hallow; it's very pretty and enjoyable, but some of the magic will randomly try to run you over or zap you if you don't have good enough defenses.
"Is snipping quotes a bit against the rules? I'ma be doing it here since I don't want anyone to have to suffer through reading unrelated quote threads."
Tbf I've been doing it for the same reason, have yet to hear anything. You may wanna DM Osie though if you'd rather be sure.
I asked and its all good. Got any mechanical analysis posts for me Trisscar? You seemed all about those last game. I can understand that its a lot harder to do in this cluster**** of a game setup though lol.
...Maaaannnnn, I've spent so much time looking at HP stuff over the years that I can't do anything but flavor game the crap out of this setup, and I'm pretty sure Osie asked us NOT to do that. Seriously if people told me who their role pms said they were as HP characters, I could probably figure out everyone's abilities (though not alignments) in about an hour, bar a few curve balls that I'm sure were thrown in for that reason.
Osie said it would be particularly ineffective, not that we shouldn't try What do you think the likelihood of the other Carrow of having some sort of KP is? I don't know much about HP myself, I've read the books like once a while a go. I don't even remember who the Carrows are or who Gibbon or Avery are.
Also I think that add post might be your longest post I've seen lol, but yes adblock ftw.
What are your top 2 scum and top 2 town and the moment and why?
Damn near guaranteed that one of the Carrows is as powerful as the other, they're portrayed as a villainous version of the Weasley Twins in terms of co-dependence. The one who died in this game was the one in the books who taught Muggle Studies (I believe) while the other taught Dark Arts, both when Voldemort had taken over the school in Book 7. Since they damn near no defining characteristics from each other besides that and physical gender, not like there's a hell of a lot to work off of as is.
So either both are poisoners, or the Dark Arts one is a direct killer or something appropriately more direct than poisoning, if you assume that teaching Muggle Studies in a propaganda fashion is "poisoning the mind".
Power levels of the SK team is a bit more of a question, but it really would be weird for one twin to have a more powerful ability than the other flavor wise.
Gibbon.... actually does not have a set list of details in my memory, hang on...
Fears Dumbledore (unsurprising and not exactly uncommon), and cast a Dark Mark above a tower before being killed a few moments later. Therefore mentioned maybe twice in the entire first seven-book run. Suspect this was just "I need more death eater names for this role".
Avery is mostly notable for being the character who asks Voldys forgiveness in Book 4's graveyard after having used the Imperious curse excuse to get out of going to Azkaban. If you look at the Gravedigger role as a kind of swapping of presentation, I can see it. Also that means Avery can become Tom Riddle with passing ability apparently, which is hilarious in thematics.
I'm too distracted by the behavior of certain people in this thread to have done a lot of what people would consider legit scum hunting, ie defeating people's logic or post style or meta or whatever. There ARE in fact two I'm not inclined to ever believe, because both have been poked at and proceeded to imply that anything goes as long as they win, therefore cementing themselves as not listening to others and being poor players as well.
As to people who aren't making this thread a slog, Sloth and Orange. At least their posts are useful no matter how long they end up being.
.....The irony of my plan given my N1 actions but it is what it is. C'est La Vie.
Ok, so you were being vague and mysterious.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Finished getting all the way through btw. Took me a bit, and I'm super tired. I'll probably end up just not making a super long catch up post as it doesn't help me, and I don't think most of ya'll want to read through me going "oh wow what a town post from Fonti on page 2, oh wow that was invalidated by this post on page 106, Fonti must be an Osie alt account!" Its just not really my style of playing, so I wouldn't be able to generate much good content. I'll hit on that stuff if its actually relevant.
Idk if this speed of catching up is normal so i have to say i am envious (no shade included if anyone wants to misinterpret this).
I waited for your catching up post, will you post it today?
I won't be making a catching up post. As I said in the post you quoted they don't help me, I've got hand notes with general thoughts and a few page numbers to read back through. I don't think most people want to read through another replacements catching up post thing, and I'd rather just jump into the game and work on getting more info on my reads than going back over just things I noticed in a giant post. I'll be working in what I saw into my posts, not making a dedicated catch up post.
Hopefully this is clear for you, I saw you don't speak english as a first language which has to make this game even harder. I remember trying to do raids with people who spoke different languages and it was always rough to communicate, so I wish you luck. I know I can be confusing sometimes, so if you need clarification on anything I saw feel free to ask.
You said you won't make a long catching up post, not that you won't make any. The eg of catch up post you made was not useful indeed but it would look normal for me to see from you something/anything about some ppl at least, as fully catched up new player in the game. Like some reads for eg.
Don't worry about my ESL lack of skills, i am asking anyway what i don't understand if i get i don't understand at least. I am not hiding behind it.
You said you won't make a long catching up post, not that you won't make any. The eg of catch up post you made was not useful indeed but it would look normal for me to see from you something/anything about some ppl at least, as fully catched up new player in the game. Like some reads for eg.
Don't worry about my ESL lack of skills, i am asking anyway what i don't understand if i get i don't understand at least. I am not hiding behind it.
I'm working on a readslist. It will be out tomorrow. I've been working on interacting with some slots I was less sure about my placement of. Don't think I'll be able to get to them all, but I've made some progress.
You seem to think its both infallible and a waste of time
Meta is pretty good if you know the player and a waste of time when you don't know them and dive into one or 2 games to 'check' it.
Terry already made the Iso of ZDS in the current game and posted his own opinion and feeling about the current game. He considered ZDS mafia here and his meta search would be unneeded fmpov for town!Terry.
You seem to think its both infallible and a waste of time
This is one of my issues with this slot Tom.
Statement A: A town player can't POSSIBLY read another game's ISO and come up with a mislynch.
"Ok so you read the ISO?"
Statement B:
These don't match up. At all. Why would a town player who is so certain in their conviction that meta reads are exact infallible science dismiss going to look at them.
I doubt i ever said meta is infallible.
The thing is you don't see the forest for the trees. Or you don't want to see it.
The problem is not meta or my opinion on meta, the problem is how Terry used it and you are so happy to accept that he was wrong disregarding the possibility of him doing this as wolf.
This is a thing you are never discussing and ignoring in all the attack posts you are making against me.
Damn near guaranteed that one of the Carrows is as powerful as the other, they're portrayed as a villainous version of the Weasley Twins in terms of co-dependence. The one who died in this game was the one in the books who taught Muggle Studies (I believe) while the other taught Dark Arts, both when Voldemort had taken over the school in Book 7. Since they damn near no defining characteristics from each other besides that and physical gender, not like there's a hell of a lot to work off of as is.
So either both are poisoners, or the Dark Arts one is a direct killer or something appropriately more direct than poisoning, if you assume that teaching Muggle Studies in a propaganda fashion is "poisoning the mind".
Power levels of the SK team is a bit more of a question, but it really would be weird for one twin to have a more powerful ability than the other flavor wise.
Gibbon.... actually does not have a set list of details in my memory, hang on...
Fears Dumbledore (unsurprising and not exactly uncommon), and cast a Dark Mark above a tower before being killed a few moments later. Therefore mentioned maybe twice in the entire first seven-book run. Suspect this was just "I need more death eater names for this role".
Avery is mostly notable for being the character who asks Voldys forgiveness in Book 4's graveyard after having used the Imperious curse excuse to get out of going to Azkaban. If you look at the Gravedigger role as a kind of swapping of presentation, I can see it. Also that means Avery can become Tom Riddle with passing ability apparently, which is hilarious in thematics.
I'm too distracted by the behavior of certain people in this thread to have done a lot of what people would consider legit scum hunting, ie defeating people's logic or post style or meta or whatever. There ARE in fact two I'm not inclined to ever believe, because both have been poked at and proceeded to imply that anything goes as long as they win, therefore cementing themselves as not listening to others and being poor players as well.
As to people who aren't making this thread a slog, Sloth and Orange. At least their posts are useful no matter how long they end up being.
Thanks for your thoughts on flavor and setup.
Could you give me the names of the 2 you are inclined to never believe? Do you have any thoughts on people alignment though? You mentioned not actively scumhunting, but you should still have some people you find town. My apologies if thats what you meant by Orange and Sloth, but to me that reasoning more seemed to be thinking they are good players, not alignment judging. But I have to agree on you with those two lol, long posts, but actually useful to read and I only was tempted to scroll past a few of sloth's giant post on my read through.
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who decided MtG was the best place to spend those advertising dollars
why
Ok, where are my priorities? What about what I'm attacking is weird? Does weird mean scummy? Does what I'm saying make sense, despite being weird?
(The internet is a magical place)
We've arrived at different conclusions on these and other players despite having the same information. That's some angle lol.
In light of that, I'm curious why you're not more suspicious that I could be scum twisting information.
The taking over another player is not the same thing as choosing a target and taking away their ability. It's involuntary and only happens at death.
Vote me if you want, I don't mind. If I was scum replacing in I'd rather not get yeeted by my own play, and people actually pushing me can help me understand them better.
I agree it probably didn't come from scum, but 3rd party I think is more likely.
I don't think its the play today, but it seemed like a lot of people were just clearing Jack or letting him coast because of it which is not good for town IMO.
...we already hashed this out. I think you're defense of WMU's antics is off putting. I think you acting like my going after kpaca was weird is off putting. We keep going in circles on this. Its frustrates the hell out of me to keep gong over it and then no one batts an eye.
Same for the points I make about WMU. Some players go "I'm just going to ignore WMU/Ter thing"
Or when I agree with a common sense point of "it doesn't matter if I know I'm right as town I need to convince others" I'm just "pocketing"
Town aint listening to a damn thing I say so I'm not particularly motivated to bother blathering on and on. I'll cast my vote at this point and wait for flips. If this is scummy to y'all then so be it and lynch me but I'm tired of saying "here's my case" and being asked days later like orange and wmu "well what's your case? oh you don't want to do double the work. Pssh scum"
Don't see how, given what it says about the role going to someone of the same alignment, and I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with this win condition.
idgi
I asked and its all good. Got any mechanical analysis posts for me Trisscar? You seemed all about those last game. I can understand that its a lot harder to do in this cluster**** of a game setup though lol.
I didn't sign up for this game to argue about meta and for sure I am not the one to go read other game just to proove an idea.
I don't feel to make this effort, and if you think this is needed to "back up my conviction", too bad, i won't go read anything.
Terry skimmed the Iso in the old game. I said it because my logic made me think at it and i am always posting my thoughts, and Terraine jumped at me, because i dared to "shade" Terry with the word skimming.
Later Terry came saying of course he skimmed, etc.
My idea is, why searching a meta, after you have a case and a vote for that player, just to come with the result of "he played the same as scum in X game", but you just skimmed so anyway you should not be sure about the result?
Isn't the case enough? Why is needed the focus on meta?
Except he wanted to cover himself for a mislynch, i can't see other reason for backing up the case with meta.
Idk if this speed of catching up is normal so i have to say i am envious (no shade included if anyone wants to misinterpret this).
I waited for your catching up post, will you post it today?
So your logic tells you that this exchange would occurred with informed aligned scum players
Terry: I read this ISO.
WMU: You're scum for skimming!
TerRaine: He didn't say he skimmed.
Terry: Of course I skimmed.
Even the derpiest of scum doesn't do this but go off I guess.
Anyone else recall the post where Terry mentioned skimming cause I def. missed it?
You seem to think its both infallible and a waste of time
This is one of my issues with this slot Tom.
Statement A: A town player can't POSSIBLY read another game's ISO and come up with a mislynch.
"Ok so you read the ISO?"
Statement B:
These don't match up. At all. Why would a town player who is so certain in their conviction that meta reads are exact infallible science dismiss going to look at them.
Oh I totally missed this post.
I did nothing. I think this was a bait post.
They are targeted ads. Must have something to do with your browsing habits. I never see trump.
I didn’t say he chose a target.
Whoever gets randomed (from Riddle’s alignment) becomes Riddle and loses their role.
That would be devastating for a mafia team.
what did fonti do to get naked women then
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I won't be making a catching up post. As I said in the post you quoted they don't help me, I've got hand notes with general thoughts and a few page numbers to read back through. I don't think most people want to read through another replacements catching up post thing, and I'd rather just jump into the game and work on getting more info on my reads than going back over just things I noticed in a giant post. I'll be working in what I saw into my posts, not making a dedicated catch up post.
Hopefully this is clear for you, I saw you don't speak english as a first language which has to make this game even harder. I remember trying to do raids with people who spoke different languages and it was always rough to communicate, so I wish you luck. I know I can be confusing sometimes, so if you need clarification on anything I saw feel free to ask.
That makes mores sense, thanks for clarifying. Looking at it with the context of the moment, I do see more shade from Raine on ZDS with her vote on Konan sticking.
@TerTaine - Is there a reason for you being on Konan over ZDS? Why was ZDS lower than Konan in your list there?
Again...the irony of this is annoying
That doesn’t explain why you never voted ZDS before Konan was a wagon
****/lagoon/****/orange/****
wmu/****/Joe/rhand/****
kpaca/axel/**terr/triss**
Sloth/****/****/****/banana
Up>down town>scum
Left>right not carrow>carrow
Up>down = town>nontown
And axel should be 1 down
Idk it kinda became how much i want to eliminate instead of alignment order
Close enough
...This is gonna require a lengthy wall, I'll post it next.
@Sloth "When you die, your alignment will not be revealed. Another random player of your alignment loses their current role and becomes a copy of you without this ability."
I think they mean "vanillaizer" in this case because it removes your old abilities, and doesn't at least appear to give you anything to replace them?
...Maaaannnnn, I've spent so much time looking at HP stuff over the years that I can't do anything but flavor game the crap out of this setup, and I'm pretty sure Osie asked us NOT to do that. Seriously if people told me who their role pms said they were as HP characters, I could probably figure out everyone's abilities (though not alignments) in about an hour, bar a few curve balls that I'm sure were thrown in for that reason.
Ayyyyy, grats!
Hoookay, buckle up yall.
So odds are this site's ads are "powered" by Google Adsense, which takes all the data Google gathers from search history, Youtube video watching habits, email contents, various scripts it runs on just about every site you visit, and anything else you don't specifically block them from; and feeds it all into an algorithm that also takes into account your recorded (by Google) age, sex, gender, ancestry, location, languages spoken, and a ton of other points of data and spits out what it thinks you'll respond the best (or just the most, in the case of Youtube) to.
Except NOW take into account that Google can decide to kinda lean on the algorithm if they get paid enough. And consider how many rich nonsense people still back Trump, including himself.
This is why I run things like Adblock+ and Noscript and a few other things that stop most of this tracking, along with avoiding Facebook and Twitter and Zoom, and never putting accurate information into things that don't absolutely need it. Currently Google is not at all sure what most of the things I mentioned are for me in particular, and I keep physical space between my devices as "air gap security". My interests don't really mirror the concept of my particular demographic anyway, so this is more to reduce annoyance than anything else.
Also the internet is indeed magical, kinda like Terraria's Hallow; it's very pretty and enjoyable, but some of the magic will randomly try to run you over or zap you if you don't have good enough defenses.
Osie said it would be particularly ineffective, not that we shouldn't try What do you think the likelihood of the other Carrow of having some sort of KP is? I don't know much about HP myself, I've read the books like once a while a go. I don't even remember who the Carrows are or who Gibbon or Avery are.
Also I think that add post might be your longest post I've seen lol, but yes adblock ftw.
What are your top 2 scum and top 2 town and the moment and why?
So either both are poisoners, or the Dark Arts one is a direct killer or something appropriately more direct than poisoning, if you assume that teaching Muggle Studies in a propaganda fashion is "poisoning the mind".
Power levels of the SK team is a bit more of a question, but it really would be weird for one twin to have a more powerful ability than the other flavor wise.
Gibbon.... actually does not have a set list of details in my memory, hang on...
Fears Dumbledore (unsurprising and not exactly uncommon), and cast a Dark Mark above a tower before being killed a few moments later. Therefore mentioned maybe twice in the entire first seven-book run. Suspect this was just "I need more death eater names for this role".
Avery is mostly notable for being the character who asks Voldys forgiveness in Book 4's graveyard after having used the Imperious curse excuse to get out of going to Azkaban. If you look at the Gravedigger role as a kind of swapping of presentation, I can see it. Also that means Avery can become Tom Riddle with passing ability apparently, which is hilarious in thematics.
I'm too distracted by the behavior of certain people in this thread to have done a lot of what people would consider legit scum hunting, ie defeating people's logic or post style or meta or whatever. There ARE in fact two I'm not inclined to ever believe, because both have been poked at and proceeded to imply that anything goes as long as they win, therefore cementing themselves as not listening to others and being poor players as well.
As to people who aren't making this thread a slog, Sloth and Orange. At least their posts are useful no matter how long they end up being.
Because I can't focus and I have no business having my vote anywhere right now.
Why are people setupgaming and caring about Axelrod.
(No offense)
I'm only half-serious.
WMU (2) - JoeTerry, kpaca
bananas (1) - tom
Terr (1) - orange
JoeTerry (1) - WMU
Triss (1) - Axel
Not voting: Amy, deadbananas, Jack, Sloth, Triss, lagoon
40 something hours left
People should vote.
Im at bananas>sloth>triss/terr>kpaca ish
You said you won't make a long catching up post, not that you won't make any. The eg of catch up post you made was not useful indeed but it would look normal for me to see from you something/anything about some ppl at least, as fully catched up new player in the game. Like some reads for eg.
Don't worry about my ESL lack of skills, i am asking anyway what i don't understand if i get i don't understand at least. I am not hiding behind it.
I'm working on a readslist. It will be out tomorrow. I've been working on interacting with some slots I was less sure about my placement of. Don't think I'll be able to get to them all, but I've made some progress.
Meta is pretty good if you know the player and a waste of time when you don't know them and dive into one or 2 games to 'check' it.
Terry already made the Iso of ZDS in the current game and posted his own opinion and feeling about the current game. He considered ZDS mafia here and his meta search would be unneeded fmpov for town!Terry.
I doubt i ever said meta is infallible.
The thing is you don't see the forest for the trees. Or you don't want to see it.
The problem is not meta or my opinion on meta, the problem is how Terry used it and you are so happy to accept that he was wrong disregarding the possibility of him doing this as wolf.
This is a thing you are never discussing and ignoring in all the attack posts you are making against me.
Thanks for your thoughts on flavor and setup.
Could you give me the names of the 2 you are inclined to never believe? Do you have any thoughts on people alignment though? You mentioned not actively scumhunting, but you should still have some people you find town. My apologies if thats what you meant by Orange and Sloth, but to me that reasoning more seemed to be thinking they are good players, not alignment judging. But I have to agree on you with those two lol, long posts, but actually useful to read and I only was tempted to scroll past a few of sloth's giant post on my read through.