i looked at the towngame for WMU that wisp linked last night
and wisp is legit high if he thinks she's playing to her town meta here
sounds like two completely different people
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I semi agreed with him tbf, they was some differances though. I was trusting his read more since he knew the main a lot better then I do. Since Wisp is possibly scum not willing to endorse that slot anymore though.
sorry, i'm not following; why are you assuming wisp is scum here?
The last line of his role saying that someone of your faction becomes Tom riddle, makes me feel like that may be more scum based. Also Osie having scum control the dark mark, is not a weird move for him. In the scum game I linked you day one, my scum role had all the power in the game and had to give it to town players in the form of 1 shot tokens.
This is only an assumption though, and based off how crazy this is, not sure how confident I am in it. Since Osie seems to just do whatever now. Part of me is just hopeful in 4 dead 1 would be scum also.
Yup sorry hadnt refreshed yet. Well I said I the mhw run dropped one of the weapons I was grinding for I’d stop early for the night and sign on here....and it did. Will be about to read soon. Need to save and limp my way up stairs
ok rereading the role i think there's no way osie makes that a scum role, because there's literally no incentive to ever use dark marks if it is (and there doesn't seem to be a mechanic for players of different factions acquiring the role)
also thinking about it some more i think the new riddle only claims if on the chopping block. should try to stay hidden and get a dark mark or two off before being nightkilled
Ok so Amy was right in it being a SK duo I assume the other half just straight up night kills. This makes me feel that Wisp was scum then?
so who do you think shot wisp?
Well I think Fonti is more likely a scum kill based off how townread she was. So Wisp was the other SK in that case, but having both SK's have kill ablities seems weird so I may be wrong.
ok rereading the role i think there's no way osie makes that a scum role, because there's literally no incentive to ever use dark marks if it is (and there doesn't seem to be a mechanic for players of different factions acquiring the role)
also thinking about it some more i think the new riddle only claims if on the chopping block. should try to stay hidden and get a dark mark or two off before being nightkilled
Possibly you are correct in this some decent points.
Ok so Amy was right in it being a SK duo I assume the other half just straight up night kills. This makes me feel that Wisp was scum then?
so who do you think shot wisp?
Well I think Fonti is more likely a scum kill based off how townread she was. So Wisp was the other SK in that case, but having both SK's have kill ablities seems weird so I may be wrong.
i think it would be weird for both SKs to have kill abilities that are odd-night active, and fonti's is confirmed as such. more likely scum has 2 kills imo, which combined with the sk... is a lot of anti-town KP.
makes me wonder if axelrod's actually neutral 3p or not, because if he is the numbers start getting dicey and we're probably looking at like. no more than 4 mafia.
If Axel were fakeclaiming Angel, I don’t think he bothers with trying to lead an elim campaign against Konan. He can make up whatever target he wants, he doesn’t need to pretend to be pulling from, say, WMU.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm betting whoever got Amycus Carrow is an even night straight-kill, 'cause Alecto was "teaching" Muggle Studies in book 7, and Amycus was teaching Dark Arts.
And since they're both torturers and such, just a misinformation role doesn't work for Alecto.
Not sure how much solving of this based on my nonsense amount of knowledge about HP I should be doing.
Not to say I don't like it if it turned out no mafia afterall (I like 3p in games ). I can see every threat being nuetral. Or all Tom Riddle? I mean Voldemort is the antagonist. So Tom Riddles might all be the scum faction.
my concern about the "multiple tom riddes" theory is the fact that it refers to winning if Tom Riddle - very firmly singular - is the last player alive
but then again why include the survivor wincon if there's literally no point
I wouldn’t say neutral given the wording of their win con
think it's more likely that there's a scum vig or that the other carrow has a regular nightkill
The last line of his role saying that someone of your faction becomes Tom riddle, makes me feel like that may be more scum based. Also Osie having scum control the dark mark, is not a weird move for him. In the scum game I linked you day one, my scum role had all the power in the game and had to give it to town players in the form of 1 shot tokens.
This is only an assumption though, and based off how crazy this is, not sure how confident I am in it. Since Osie seems to just do whatever now. Part of me is just hopeful in 4 dead 1 would be scum also.
Well I guess we did get SK which is great.
The Carrows are Sk's Osie changed the SOD post to reflect this.
also thinking about it some more i think the new riddle only claims if on the chopping block. should try to stay hidden and get a dark mark or two off before being nightkilled
Well I think Fonti is more likely a scum kill based off how townread she was. So Wisp was the other SK in that case, but having both SK's have kill ablities seems weird so I may be wrong.
Possibly you are correct in this some decent points.
makes me wonder if axelrod's actually neutral 3p or not, because if he is the numbers start getting dicey and we're probably looking at like. no more than 4 mafia.
Dumb question time....wouldn't the poisoned player be one of the deaths? Or does poison in mafia not a kill action?
That can't be a thing, right?
Is there an alignment that doesnt win if theyre the last player?
I assume its talking about if the "cloned" riddle is last left they still win
That sounds likely.
And since they're both torturers and such, just a misinformation role doesn't work for Alecto.
Not sure how much solving of this based on my nonsense amount of knowledge about HP I should be doing.
Why would it say that?
.....Maaaybe raise the dead ability?
Maybe there's a role that can switch a players alignment? Ergo it would be possible for a Tom Riddle clone that starts as one but ends as another.
Tbf this is Osie's fault, not Sloth's.
He also said to ignore Osie I wouldn't say easier but it feels fun.
I mean...we already know this isn't true so why muddy the waters by suggesting it?
A voldemort
A quirrel?
Something about horcruxes?
Polyjuice potion?
...I feel like 7 of the same role that potentially then clones would be a nightmare.
How do you ISO on here again?
but then again why include the survivor wincon if there's literally no point
ffs
also reasserting that whoever got poisoned should claim
Or go back to the main mafia forum and click on the number of replies to this thread.
A. we don't waste the day trying to wagon a player who's dead at eod anyways
B. if they're a town PR, we learn night action ***** etc etc
i can't think of any reason for the poisoned player to NOT claim
it's a delayed kill