Osie told me I should just imagine everyone as not knowing what they're doing so I don't feel like this site is trying to strangle me and tear me to pieces for not being an A poster (That's also hard to do because I saw some posts saying "I know exactly what I'm doing"). So...... I will try not be my miserable self that played a lurky game last time I played here. I probably still will not be able to beat you talkative top posters even with this new resolution. ^^"
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@Jackrito I remember you were saying that I did my catch up post better than how you did? But what exactly was better/ or any good in that posts?
well you got straight to the point and did them in bullet points with links so it gives a better presentation and thought structure. Mine are just big walls with every thought I have on said person. Which is why I stopped doing them because not helpful for me or anyone. I think the actual content was ok but need to review it again tbh.
Is it bad I townread you for this a bit considering how blank it is.
I mean if you are a wolf, its not like you can call me a wolf at any point without me jumping on it
@Rodemy
I was serious btw, those kinds of posts sucks coming from you, and I rather you not aggressively attack me in response for saying my thoughts on the matter. Just don't post if you don't want to, don't give us excuses
and given that most players on this site talk with walls, I don't understand how you can make that post?
The fact that someone (or two) had to point out to Konan about the tom-implication thing makes me think Konan is genuine in her defense. This could be over simplifying, but if Konan was scum, she'd know what they were talking about immediately, no? Instead of saying she doesn't get how they arrive to the conclusion that she reads tom as town TMI thing.
does it seem like shes trying to figure out what they mean?
Mmmm.. I don't know if I read it wrong, but I think she knows what they mean (if you're asking literally), she just doens't get how they reach to that conclusion.
Hello, I exist. It is also near midnight and I need to beat the heat tomorrow with grocery shopping, so I'll be looking at this stuff later. Hope everyone is doing well.
Bone of the father, unknowingly given, you will renew your son.
Flesh of the servant, willingly given, you will revive your master.
Blood of the enemy, forcibly taken, you will resurrect your foe.
Hello, I exist. It is also near midnight and I need to beat the heat tomorrow with grocery shopping, so I'll be looking at this stuff later. Hope everyone is doing well.
I like Lagoon, don’t like last, but adjusting for how I never like last hes probably neutral right now.
Would still lynch anyone who’s alignment won’t show up.
@Axelrod: wanna trade roles
If anyone can grand the dark mark, I would be very grateful
I just thought it was bad. Role stuff. Not saying anymore.
Given we are specifically told that the Dark Mark is an "Upgrade" mechanic.
I mean, I can imagine it's possible for there to be a specific role/roles for whom it would not be an Upgrade, but those ought to be the exception, and if Rod were paying attention, it also seems like he ought to know that?
I’m willing to bet that there are some graverobber roles out there to counter the flipless players. Perhaps activated by the Dark Mark.
I don’t actually know my Dark Mark ability, so I’m not that keen on begging for an activation.
I don't know what it does for me either. It's just implied it will be beneficial. I am somewhat curious how many people know upfront what it does for them, but this may not be the time for that discussion.
I have generally good feelings about ZDS's opening post.
**** there goes my chance to pull the dark mark haha. I was 100% lying trying to pull it. I didn’t even realize it said in the set up )I didn’t even ****in read the thing, just that I wanted in)
My plan was to see if the dark Mark was given by another player, and if I said it didn’t help me and I was targeted, we know that person is scum.
A stupid plan but hey, it’s me. Gonna be on in a few minutes to do some analyzing
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All roles have an upgrade mechanic which is known as a Dark Mark.
it's never to late to read the OP.
Looking at the declared plan to catch scum by making someone talk about the mark I have a reserve to completely trust Rodemy, i know i didn't read about it too but i see it as a derp clear attempt.
Now that i see the answer why didn't anyone tell me about it or send me to read the Op?
I keep TerRaine's post as a shade for not telling me what's about and make me loose time to answer him. -1
Welcome Trisscar and Rhand!
At least i will feel less alone while catching up.
At the moment of my last post #320 i have Wisp as leaning villager by tone of posts, with Amy and Lagoon.
I don't trust Kpaca for his entry and his self meta, Rodemy for that plan (i know townies can have plans too but until i see more posts from him i am not convinced he didn't fake it).
I liked Tom's Ron gif reads on page 6 somewhere and Tuba is at the upper part of the null.
I am usually an AMA person, now I have so much to read that i feel myself an alien in the game. Of course you can AMA but you may not receive a complete answer. Not yet ^^
Good morning. I have a lot to do this weekend in will be slightly vla til Sunday. I’m alright with keeping my vote where it is. My reads probably won’t change until ToMorrow when night actions come along.
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I keep TerRaine's post as a shade for not telling me what's about and make me loose time to answer him. -1
Her.
-1 away. No one gave you a second hand account because Town wants players to read the game themselves and draw their own conclusions. Summing it up for you leaves room for bias and interpretation on the tellers part. It leads your response. You were rereading/catching up. You got there. Now you have an opinion on the events that happened not what another player tells you happened.
I keep TerRaine's post as a shade for not telling me what's about and make me loose time to answer him. -1
Her.
-1 away. No one gave you a second hand account because Town wants players to read the game themselves and draw their own conclusions. Summing it up for you leaves room for bias and interpretation on the tellers part. It leads your response. You were rereading/catching up. You got there. Now you have an opinion on the events that happened not what another player tells you happened.
Well I can't read Rhand, good luck with that
I think I can read Trisscar
Wake is probably town
Good to know that at least you played with both.
I don't remember Trisscar's meta, but i can visit our game to check it if needed, it's just one town game though
Well I can't read Rhand, good luck with that
I think I can read Trisscar
Wake is probably town
Good to know that at least you played with both.
I don't remember Trisscar's meta, but i can visit our game to check it if needed, it's just one town game though
yeah
Playing with Rhand doesnt mean much, meta doesnt really work with him
if he is town he probably dies sooner than later,cause he is usually spot on with his wolf reads
if he is a wolf he can usually cleanly bull***** and bury towns people
I have Trisscar town games from MC as well as SmashBoards, if they are ever needed
I keep TerRaine's post as a shade for not telling me what's about and make me loose time to answer him. -1
Her.
-1 away. No one gave you a second hand account because Town wants players to read the game themselves and draw their own conclusions. Summing it up for you leaves room for bias and interpretation on the tellers part. It leads your response. You were rereading/catching up. You got there. Now you have an opinion on the events that happened not what another player tells you happened.
Can’t focus on reading in this heatwave.
Can someone give me a rundown of important stuff?
Some questions:
*What caused tom to drop his gimmick?
*Are there cases on the wagons?
*Any claims out there apart from Lagoon’s don’t target me and Wisp / Axel with their no flip stuff?
@Fulcrum
This is a quick post while I have wifi.
People I think are good
Fulcrum
Last
Ampharos
Rod
People I think are bad
Konami
ZDS
XxxtentacionMeUpxxx
Sloth?
Poison?
People I’m not sure about
Goo
Alpaca
Terraine
Tom
People I forgot about and thus have no opinion on yet
The Rest
Ask me about these and I will do my best to answer when I get internet back or can trick my wife that what I’m doing on my phone isn’t affecting our data.
Joe, why are you acting like it's a foregone conclusion I will flip scum even though "shading" may be a thing I do as town for all you know, and why are you focusing on finding who may be a buddy trying to save me when you have no proof I even have buddies? Aren't you putting the cart a mile ahead of the horse?
My scum pairings (eg you and Konan, Axel and Rod in the past) are shallow and I know it. Yours are shallow as well, but you act like they are deep.
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Rodemy has been back to being himself for a while now, I'm not scumreading him anymore. Maybe that will change again if he keeps up the "too many walls, gonna lurk" complaints.
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
whats odd about the "weakness" of the rebuttal?
It seems
Very in character aorn...
Is this shade at wmu or more at terr?
Definitely mostly at WMU, but also a little at ter because the weakness of the rebuttal makes me think this could be a "I-better-say-something-to-show-we-are-totally-not-buddies" situation, with WMU rebutting for the sake of rebutting.
Can’t focus on reading in this heatwave.
Can someone give me a rundown of important stuff?
Some questions:
1.*What caused tom to drop his gimmick?
2.*Are there cases on the wagons?
3.*Any claims out there apart from Lagoon’s don’t target me and Wisp / Axel with their no flip stuff?
1. Kpaca kicked up a fuss, some people voted, tom got obstinate, some people asked both tom and Kpaca to stop, tom stopped.
2. Yeah, I've got several posts about Konan in my iso. I think it's best explained in 1304. Ampharos's 1351 is also helpful. The original point against ZDS comes from Rodemy in 864. There are some other accusations against him around the thread, I don't remember well enough to go an find them. Personally, I would just iso Konan and ZDS to get a feel for them.
There are also some points against TerRaine and Sloth that I think are worth considering. You can find most of them in Tom's posts, through were are also some from Ampharos and me yesterday or the day before. Overall, there are a lot more towncases than scumcases.
3. Axel has expanded his claim to Angel, though he hasn't claimed his target. I believe him and am leaving him alone for Today.
@Tubba Can you expand on some of the reads you care about? Additionally, can you talk about why you're townreading me so strongly (I assume your town list is ordered)?
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
Can’t focus on reading in this heatwave.
Can someone give me a rundown of important stuff?
Some questions:
1.*What caused tom to drop his gimmick?
2.*Are there cases on the wagons?
3.*Any claims out there apart from Lagoon’s don’t target me and Wisp / Axel with their no flip stuff?
1. Kpaca kicked up a fuss, some people voted, tom got obstinate, some people asked both tom and Kpaca to stop, tom stopped.
2. Yeah, I've got several posts about Konan in my iso. I think it's best explained in 1304. Ampharos's 1351 is also helpful. The original point against ZDS comes from Rodemy in 864. There are some other accusations against him around the thread, I don't remember well enough to go an find them. Personally, I would just iso Konan and ZDS to get a feel for them.
There are also some points against TerRaine and Sloth that I think are worth considering. You can find most of them in Tom's posts, through were are also some from Ampharos and me yesterday or the day before. Overall, there are a lot more towncases than scumcases.
3. Axel has expanded his claim to Angel, though he hasn't claimed his target. I believe him and am leaving him alone for Today.
@Tubba Can you expand on some of the reads you care about? Additionally, can you talk about why you're townreading me so strongly (I assume your town list is ordered)?
Thanks.
I came out of page 5 with a scumread on Sloth and Terraine, but focusing on the current wagons is probably a good idea.
@Last, I guess it all depends on whether he's been shockingly scummy the last 7 pages.
How did you get here from "tom's not someone to worry about D1" - that was you who said that, wasn't it?
tom, are your orange (best colour btw) players a tentative scum team?
Or are they 4 players you find individually scummy with no regard for who may or may not be buddies?
If it's the first... that's a spicy take on the Konan wagon.
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
He plays similarly to how he played previously as town (that makes him ok), and I don't know if the differences come from him or from me (thus they don't make him not-ok). Is it more clear that way?
@Last, I guess it all depends on whether he's been shockingly scummy the last 7 pages.
How did you get here from "tom's not someone to worry about D1" - that was you who said that, wasn't it?
I say that about a lot of people, I think Jack could be a wolf, but I am still against it out of principle
I prefer Rodemy right now, or if I am going to stick with a current train I would go Tom > Konan > ZDS
mostly because I dont see how Tom can make that PoE with a straight face, he doesnt call any of them actually wolves, and VCA/Mechanical solving is where he tends to hide best as a wolf
and I think everything on ZDS is just over-inflated
Konan only because I would sheep Fulcrum if comes down to making sure a lynch happens
A specific post# would help, since I'm not sure I'm seeing anything.
I explained it in my quote.
Rodemy has gone way down because he is actively being lazy
I think that is something more accustomed with his wolf meta /shrug
Is it bad I townread you for this a bit considering how blank it is.
well you got straight to the point and did them in bullet points with links so it gives a better presentation and thought structure. Mine are just big walls with every thought I have on said person. Which is why I stopped doing them because not helpful for me or anyone. I think the actual content was ok but need to review it again tbh.
@Rodemy
I was serious btw, those kinds of posts sucks coming from you, and I rather you not aggressively attack me in response for saying my thoughts on the matter. Just don't post if you don't want to, don't give us excuses
and given that most players on this site talk with walls, I don't understand how you can make that post?
the phrasing was cheeky but the question was sincere
I still want to see how he progresses, I am still against day 1 lunches on Jack
Rodemy is woooofer
and 3-4 others if I can get to all of that tomorrow, since its my day off, no promises though
Trisscar has replaced Zionite, effective immediately.
Do not discuss circumstances surrounding replacements
Konan (4) - fulcrum, ZeDorkSlipeur, Killjoy, TerRaine
ZeDorkSlipeur (4) - Rodemy, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Jackrito, gooLagoon
Slothful (3) - Fuwa, Ampharos, tomsloger
tomsloger (3) - kpaca, Tubba Fett, Konan
Kpaca (1) - Lastwhisper
Rodemy (1) - Trisscar
Not voting: Axelrod, Rhand, Slothful, xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Vote History:
Slothful - Zionite > Jackrito > Unvote
Axelrod - tomsloger > Rodemy > Unvote
TerRaine - Slothful > Unvote > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Axelrod > Unvote > Konan
Ampharos - tomsloger > Lastwhisper > Jackrito > Rhand > Zionite > ZeDorkSlipeur > Slothful
tomsloger - No Elim > Axelrod > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Axelrod > TerRaine > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan > Slothful
Fuwa - Slothful
Trisscar - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Rodemy
Rodemy - tomsloger > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > gooLagoon > Ampharos > gooLagoon > Slothful > Axelrod > gooLagoon > ZeDorkSlipeur
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - Killjoy > Unvote
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - Ampharos > Lastwhisper > Unvote
fulcrum - Lastwhisper > Trisscar > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan
ZeDorkSlipeur - tomsloger > Rodemy > Axelrod > Unvote > tomsloger > Konan
kpaca - Lastwhisper > tomsloger
Lastwhisper - Trisscar > Rhand > Axelrod > Unvote > tomsloger > Unvote > Slothful > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > tomsloger > Unvote > kpaca
Killjoy - Axelrod > Unvote > Konan
Jackrito - Trisscar > ZeDorkSlipeur
Konan - gooLagoon > tomsloger
Sloth is VLA.
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx is VLA.
It takes 11 to elim, and Day 1 Deadline is the 29th at 1930 PST.
Rhand replaces Poison chan.
Do not discuss circumstances surrounding replacement
I'll try to get caught up asap, but I'm pretty busy. I'll start with a skim.
it's never to late to read the OP.
Looking at the declared plan to catch scum by making someone talk about the mark I have a reserve to completely trust Rodemy, i know i didn't read about it too but i see it as a derp clear attempt.
Now that i see the answer why didn't anyone tell me about it or send me to read the Op?
I keep TerRaine's post as a shade for not telling me what's about and make me loose time to answer him. -1
I don't like self meta.
Can someone confirm this?
At least i will feel less alone while catching up.
At the moment of my last post #320 i have Wisp as leaning villager by tone of posts, with Amy and Lagoon.
I don't trust Kpaca for his entry and his self meta, Rodemy for that plan (i know townies can have plans too but until i see more posts from him i am not convinced he didn't fake it).
I liked Tom's Ron gif reads on page 6 somewhere and Tuba is at the upper part of the null.
I am usually an AMA person, now I have so much to read that i feel myself an alien in the game. Of course you can AMA but you may not receive a complete answer. Not yet ^^
Her.
-1 away. No one gave you a second hand account because Town wants players to read the game themselves and draw their own conclusions. Summing it up for you leaves room for bias and interpretation on the tellers part. It leads your response. You were rereading/catching up. You got there. Now you have an opinion on the events that happened not what another player tells you happened.
unless you need some delirious *****posting, in which case i've got you covered
please yes
I think I can read Trisscar
Wake is probably town
im taking a nap
that's fair :shrug
Good to know that at least you played with both.
I don't remember Trisscar's meta, but i can visit our game to check it if needed, it's just one town game though
yeah
In terms of Kj reads, we have no Kj reads.
Hi Trisscar, hi Rhand!
if he is town he probably dies sooner than later,cause he is usually spot on with his wolf reads
if he is a wolf he can usually cleanly bull***** and bury towns people
I have Trisscar town games from MC as well as SmashBoards, if they are ever needed
Can someone give me a rundown of important stuff?
Some questions:
*What caused tom to drop his gimmick?
*Are there cases on the wagons?
*Any claims out there apart from Lagoon’s don’t target me and Wisp / Axel with their no flip stuff?
This is a quick post while I have wifi.
People I think are good
Fulcrum
Last
Ampharos
Rod
People I think are bad
Konami
ZDS
XxxtentacionMeUpxxx
Sloth?
Poison?
People I’m not sure about
Goo
Alpaca
Terraine
Tom
People I forgot about and thus have no opinion on yet
The Rest
Ask me about these and I will do my best to answer when I get internet back or can trick my wife that what I’m doing on my phone isn’t affecting our data.
Joe, why are you acting like it's a foregone conclusion I will flip scum even though "shading" may be a thing I do as town for all you know, and why are you focusing on finding who may be a buddy trying to save me when you have no proof I even have buddies? Aren't you putting the cart a mile ahead of the horse?
My scum pairings (eg you and Konan, Axel and Rod in the past) are shallow and I know it. Yours are shallow as well, but you act like they are deep.
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Rodemy has been back to being himself for a while now, I'm not scumreading him anymore. Maybe that will change again if he keeps up the "too many walls, gonna lurk" complaints.
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
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Why not both? Wasn't my vote also a way to ask him to be less fluffy?
(Your French needs work by the way. Check your genders.)
Definitely mostly at WMU, but also a little at ter because the weakness of the rebuttal makes me think this could be a "I-better-say-something-to-show-we-are-totally-not-buddies" situation, with WMU rebutting for the sake of rebutting.
Tell me more.
1. Kpaca kicked up a fuss, some people voted, tom got obstinate, some people asked both tom and Kpaca to stop, tom stopped.
2. Yeah, I've got several posts about Konan in my iso. I think it's best explained in 1304. Ampharos's 1351 is also helpful. The original point against ZDS comes from Rodemy in 864. There are some other accusations against him around the thread, I don't remember well enough to go an find them. Personally, I would just iso Konan and ZDS to get a feel for them.
There are also some points against TerRaine and Sloth that I think are worth considering. You can find most of them in Tom's posts, through were are also some from Ampharos and me yesterday or the day before. Overall, there are a lot more towncases than scumcases.
3. Axel has expanded his claim to Angel, though he hasn't claimed his target. I believe him and am leaving him alone for Today.
@Tubba Can you expand on some of the reads you care about? Additionally, can you talk about why you're townreading me so strongly (I assume your town list is ordered)?
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
Thanks.
I came out of page 5 with a scumread on Sloth and Terraine, but focusing on the current wagons is probably a good idea.
Jack/rod/fuwa/lagoon
ZDS (4) - Rod, JoeTerry, Jack, Lagoon
Slothful (3) - Fuwa, Amy, tom
tom (3) - kpaca, Tubba, Konan
Kpaca (1) - Last
Rodemy (1) - Trisscar
Not voting: Axelrod, sloth, Rhand, xWMUx
For you, tom.
I raise an eye brow at anyone who takes something esp. this early and decides it makes the player "completely trust" them.
Will catch up periodically from page 23, but down to real time. Anything demanding my attention?
Why is tom the competing wagon?
@Sloth
is there a reason why he shouldn't?
How did you get here from "tom's not someone to worry about D1" - that was you who said that, wasn't it?
vote: Tom
see above for an okish reason for this vote
tom, are your orange (best colour btw) players a tentative scum team?
Or are they 4 players you find individually scummy with no regard for who may or may not be buddies?
If it's the first... that's a spicy take on the Konan wagon.
He plays similarly to how he played previously as town (that makes him ok), and I don't know if the differences come from him or from me (thus they don't make him not-ok). Is it more clear that way?
I prefer Rodemy right now, or if I am going to stick with a current train I would go Tom > Konan > ZDS
mostly because I dont see how Tom can make that PoE with a straight face, he doesnt call any of them actually wolves, and VCA/Mechanical solving is where he tends to hide best as a wolf
and I think everything on ZDS is just over-inflated
Konan only because I would sheep Fulcrum if comes down to making sure a lynch happens
This is going to be an interesting catch up.
Let me know if anyone's got any questions otherwise I think I'll just focus on that.
Also, hi Rhand!
Who did Triscar replace?
Rodemy has gone way down because he is actively being lazy
I think that is something more accustomed with his wolf meta /shrug
Trisscar replaced Zion
...pleasedont make me stop playing MHW to find it.