Even if Konan believes there's not way to yeet anyone other than herself, tom or ZDS, what she should be doing is arguing for killing Tom, not trying to saying votes on ZDS are fine.
Also, her perspective explains why she made a case against tom in the first place. She believed we wouldn't go for anyone other than tom, ZDS or herself, so she cased the town of the three. She doesn't want to defend ZDS now because in a three way race for the yeet two scum defending each other looks really bad.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Uhhm I think one point is shadow claiming, he wanted the dark mark which feels kinda townie
vote: Wake
Guess I'm doing another 180
In Ever Changing Seasons, as mafia, Shadow came up with a way fakeclaim his role and started softing it in his first posts of the game.
man idk
All I can say, is that Wake will never get better based on me playing in bother her town and wolf games
You never played with me wolf, idk what are you talking about.
You are not bothering me, i am in the most idgaf-ing mood possible and i bet at least one who jumped on me is mafia.
Amy overeacted, maybe is a good sign, you are sheeping them because you are affraid in case of a red flip to be accused of TRing me. Too much attention for your image idk what to do with this.
Fulcrum with his "mafia is easy" would make me rofl in normal mood and if he is villager i will be amazed.
Enjoy my midnight thoughts.
Cya in 12 hours i have to sleep.
Ah and my vote will stick with Konan, his reasons to vote are atrocious.
Fonti's arrogance doesn't make her wolfy, honestly it probably makes her more townie, doesn't me I like her progress, that doesnt I mean konan can't be a wolf, I think her case on Konan is sound, I think her trying to solve the game day one is pretty yikes after she told me to chill with that once.
I just think there is still a chance that Konan got caught in finicky language use. Because let's be honest not all town players always stick to their reads, or maybe I'm just an enigma.
Rather just see Tom or ZDS go at this point, or one my oranges that everyone is allergic too
@WMU
I'm not afraid of anything, town will literally have to wine on my alignment either way, + I don't get mislynched which is a thing
I'm not worried about being wrong, I'm am more worried about hitting a town which in the end idk why I even care since we are more likely to hit a town given majority and the size of majority. Unless a decent amount of the wolves don't care
don't answer my question with a question, wth are ur reads
I want to hit a wolf today, not possible bad town
You don't want to answer?
A lot of my vote switching is because people I'm townreading want to wagon people I'm either scumreading or have no read on, and who will probably post more content under thread of being yeeted. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I'm happy with my konan vote. Don't get me wrong I don't think you should go full of defensive mode when you become a wagon at the expense of scum hunting.
But refusing to answer any questions in defense of yourself is off putting. Its coming off more like she avoiding defense for fear of saying something that could be looked back on later. A town player in a wagon is going to offer up SOME answers to townies trying to mislynch them because it gives us something to look back at and see where we were led astray. It's about helping your team that's making a mistake...not "wasting time"
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Did Wake literally get all the votes in the last 5 hours?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I like Lagoon, don’t like last, but adjusting for how I never like last hes probably neutral right now.
Would still lynch anyone who’s alignment won’t show up.
@Axelrod: wanna trade roles
If anyone can grand the dark mark, I would be very grateful
The "wanna trade roles" here is very clearly in response to my suggesting in my opening post that my roles was bad. It is also, very clearly, shadow attempting to hint/suggest that his role is also bad. Like, let's compare bad roles.
At the time I wondered if this might be Shadow trying to set something up. You might say this if you were Town with an actual good role, as a way of trying to divert mafia attention away from yourself. You might say this if you were simply Town with a bad role, as it is meant to suggest. You also definitely might say this if you were scum and trying to potentially set something up for later.
This is not, however, what you would ever say if you were just a vanilla Town.
Vote: Konan
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Am I the only one who isn't immediately put off by their role?
maybe. I do think (and yes I’m also guilty of it) we should probably not with the roles quite yet.
Again, the implication is quite clear, he doesn't like his role.
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He was wearing [...] Quirrell’s turban, which kept talking to him, telling him he must transfer to Slytherin at once, because it was his destiny. [He] told the turban he didn’t want to be in Slytherin; it got heavier and heavier; he tried to pull it off but it tightened painfully — and there was Malfoy, laughing at him as he struggled with it — then Malfoy turned into the hook-nosed teacher, Snape, whose laugh became high and cold — there was a burst of green light and [he] woke, sweating and shaking.
Also, her perspective explains why she made a case against tom in the first place. She believed we wouldn't go for anyone other than tom, ZDS or herself, so she cased the town of the three. She doesn't want to defend ZDS now because in a three way race for the yeet two scum defending each other looks really bad.
vote: Wake
Guess I'm doing another 180
In Ever Changing Seasons, as mafia, Shadow came up with a way fakeclaim his role and started softing it in his first posts of the game.
All I can say, is that Wake will never get better based on me playing in bother her town and wolf games
For towncred
For tomcred
not in strong playerlists
feelsweirdman
I was looking for something sassy to say in French and learned that RSVP is a French abbreviation. Who knew this? I did not.
Something like that. I only speak english and mediocre spanish
before going to sleep i have to answer.
You never played with me wolf, idk what are you talking about.
You are not bothering me, i am in the most idgaf-ing mood possible and i bet at least one who jumped on me is mafia.
Amy overeacted, maybe is a good sign, you are sheeping them because you are affraid in case of a red flip to be accused of TRing me. Too much attention for your image idk what to do with this.
Fulcrum with his "mafia is easy" would make me rofl in normal mood and if he is villager i will be amazed.
Enjoy my midnight thoughts.
Cya in 12 hours i have to sleep.
Ah and my vote will stick with Konan, his reasons to vote are atrocious.
Konan (3) - ZDS, Terr, WMU
ZDS (3) - Rodemy, JoeTerry, Jack
tom (2) - kpaca, Tubba
Sloth (1) - Fuwa
Rod (1) - Trisscar
Not voting: Axelrod, Rhand, Slothful
You too?
Imagine my green flip, where is your towncred?
vote: ZDS
And yes I have, idk why u decided to stick with ur alt when coming to this site honestly
It limits the games I can provide cause I don't plan on saying who you are, so technically I only have one town game from you on this account
I just think there is still a chance that Konan got caught in finicky language use. Because let's be honest not all town players always stick to their reads, or maybe I'm just an enigma.
Rather just see Tom or ZDS go at this point, or one my oranges that everyone is allergic too
You can shoot me in the leg latter if I turn out to be completely be wrong
why is WMU town wisp
@Tom
Me spitting blank leans vs anyone else putting out cases doesn't mean anyone is more likely to be right or wrong
@Amy
Easter Egg Mafia
Wake town game, can't give a wolf game since it's on her main
I'll double check the one wolf game when I get a chance, but I'm at work currently
I'm not afraid of anything, town will literally have to wine on my alignment either way, + I don't get mislynched which is a thing
I'm not worried about being wrong, I'm am more worried about hitting a town which in the end idk why I even care since we are more likely to hit a town given majority and the size of majority. Unless a decent amount of the wolves don't care
I want to hit a wolf today, not possible bad town
A lot of my vote switching is because people I'm townreading want to wagon people I'm either scumreading or have no read on, and who will probably post more content under thread of being yeeted. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
And also i dont have to justify it. I doubt you could find a game in which i didnt color some votecounts
I usually end up using them once theres flips to, yknow, do VCA (which is barely even possible day 1)
It wont be scummy then either
But refusing to answer any questions in defense of yourself is off putting. Its coming off more like she avoiding defense for fear of saying something that could be looked back on later. A town player in a wagon is going to offer up SOME answers to townies trying to mislynch them because it gives us something to look back at and see where we were led astray. It's about helping your team that's making a mistake...not "wasting time"
This was Shadow's first post of the game: The "wanna trade roles" here is very clearly in response to my suggesting in my opening post that my roles was bad. It is also, very clearly, shadow attempting to hint/suggest that his role is also bad. Like, let's compare bad roles.
At the time I wondered if this might be Shadow trying to set something up. You might say this if you were Town with an actual good role, as a way of trying to divert mafia attention away from yourself. You might say this if you were simply Town with a bad role, as it is meant to suggest. You also definitely might say this if you were scum and trying to potentially set something up for later.
This is not, however, what you would ever say if you were just a vanilla Town.
Vote: Konan
Though I'm trying to imagine vanilla!shadow thinking that a bad role is better than having no role at all, and... I guess it's not likely?
I still think ZDS has a decent chance of being scum, but Axel has just brought up some good points and is the type of scum hunting I can get behind.
I also some free time now so can actually play this properly again and not just skim read.
Vote: Konan
Axel strikes again
vote: Kanon
Do you take back your VT claim?
@Fulcrum
You can yell at me
Konan (8) - ZeDorkSlipeur, TerRaine, xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx, tomsloger, Axelrod, Jackrito, fulcrum, Lastwhisper
ZeDorkSlipeur (3) - Rodemy, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, gooLagoon
tomsloger (2) - kpaca, Tubba Fett
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (2) - Konan, Killjoy
Rodemy (1) - Trisscar
Slothful (1) - Fuwa
Tubba Fett (1) - Ampharos
Not voting: Rhand, Slothful
Vote History:
Slothful - Zionite > Jackrito > Unvote
Axelrod - tomsloger > Rodemy > Unvote > Konan
TerRaine - Slothful > Unvote > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Axelrod > Unvote > Konan
Ampharos - tomsloger > Lastwhisper > Jackrito > Rhand > Zionite > ZeDorkSlipeur > Slothful > Konan > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Tubba Fett
tomsloger - No Elim > Axelrod > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Axelrod > TerRaine > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan > Slothful > Konan > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Konan
Fuwa - Slothful
Trisscar - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Rodemy
Rodemy - tomsloger > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > gooLagoon > Ampharos > gooLagoon > Slothful > Axelrod > gooLagoon > ZeDorkSlipeur
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - Killjoy > Unvote > Konan
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - Ampharos > Lastwhisper > Unvote
fulcrum - Lastwhisper > Trisscar > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Konan
ZeDorkSlipeur - tomsloger > Rodemy > Axelrod > Unvote > tomsloger > Konan
kpaca - Lastwhisper > tomsloger
Lastwhisper - Trisscar > Rhand > Axelrod > Unvote > tomsloger > Unvote > Slothful > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > tomsloger > Unvote > kpaca > tomsloger > Konan > ZeDorkSlipeur > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan
Killjoy - Axelrod > Unvote > Konan > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Jackrito - Trisscar > ZeDorkSlipeur > Konan
Konan - gooLagoon > tomsloger > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Rodemy is VLA.
Tubba Fett is VLA.
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx is VLA.
ZeDorkSlipeur is VLA.
It takes 11 to elim, and Day 1 Deadline is the 29th at 1930 PST.
Without a care in the world.