He hasn’t posted in at least a day and there’s 10 minutes left. I waited til I had no choice (at l1) and took my shot. Even if he has been here and I announce ok I’m Assassin az claim or I’m taking my shot I run the risk of being lynched before I can get it in. I had to shoot before lynch confirmed with tom
Ter, my friend, why would town!you ever think I'd hammer before you got your shot off if you claimed it?
You could have guaranteed a kill on Azrael here, because if he didn't show up to claim or if he did but false claimed, we would have absolutely killed him Tomorrow.
He hasn’t posted in at least a day and there’s 10 minutes left. I waited til I had no choice (at l1) and took my shot. Even if he has been here and I announce ok I’m Assassin az claim or I’m taking my shot I run the risk of being lynched before I can get it in. I had to shoot before lynch confirmed with tom
Ter, my friend, why would town!you ever think I'd hammer before you got your shot off if you claimed it?
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Your not the only person here who could lynch me. Takes lil effort for umami or tubba to change their votes to me
Also, if Az is town, killing him now gives us an angel, whereas killing Ter gives a demon. Demons don't really matter without Angels since there's no priest, but the Angel protection could be useful.
....ok I’m confused as **** when I looked at you post yesterday it said deadline is 24 hours from now and I hovered over the time stamp and it say 2 pm which it is now
Font, why have GD out themselves N3 instead of N1 in a game this small? Why no follow-up on setting up expectations of when GD/UTk should claim?
If I was being uncharitable, I would worry that you are specifically suggesting the GD wait until N3 because you have knowledge about that role and can always claim, whoops GD must have been killed already which is why they never came forward where, if they had to claim D2, would be forced to give conclusive information and either choose to be accurate or get caught in a lie later
@font Why is Az not GD?
Ter's conf-role ticks Umami's softing downwards.
@Ter exactly what role did you guess for Az? I'm weighting the pros and cons of you revealing this, and it's honestly not a huge risk right now. Go.
Ter outed as scum. If the scummate was not Az and had GD, they could have lied about Ter's alignment Tomorrow. Az could be GD though, I doubt they'd think we'd trust him if he claimed tomorrow.
@font Why is Az not GD?
Ter's conf-role ticks Umami's softing downwards.
@Ter exactly what role did you guess for Az? I'm weighting the pros and cons of you revealing this, and it's honestly not a huge risk right now. Go.
ironically enough grave digger.
Wanted to say Judge But was too much of a coincidence and if he is imma throw an ugly ass tantrum I missed that
Ok the next question is important, though I get if it's too hard for you to answer:
What reasons did you have to suspect he was GD and not just, say, chose any wrong role at random to shoot your scummate with and townfirm him?
Early on ( I’m mobile and going looking for it is a pain In this ass) he said something about scum NKing him so he could play in another game I think it was. Either way asked for the first NK...Struck me as weird and trying to hard so I looked at the roles.
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
Also fonti if Az/I are scum why would I actively be still trying to get you kill the ability role left on my team. I’d have shut my yap and skunk off to lick my wounds elsewhere. Lynch him now and I’ll hammer myself d2 if that’s what it takes.
Early on ( I’m mobile and going looking for it is a pain In this ass) he said something about scum NKing him so he could play in another game I think it was. Either way asked for the first NK...Struck me as weird and trying to hard so I looked at the roles.
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
Also fonti if Az/I are scum why would I actively be still trying to get you kill the ability role left on my team. I’d have shut my yap and skunk off to lick my wounds elsewhere. Lynch him now and I’ll hammer myself d2 if that’s what it takes.
You'd do it so you could make this exact argument.
Ter just tried to assassinate Az. Possibly real, also possibly an attempt to clear him. Means scum don't have gravedigger.
How did you know it was Ter?
No one else shoots there, with the single exception of Ter's scummate trying to make it look like Ter was shooting. Even then, unless it's exactly Az, I think they hold the shot to use in late game.
Nope. Az as scum would know scum team doesnt have Assassin. Figure he was trying to trick the town assassin into thinking he has a even number night role or a kill dependent one.
Nope. Az as scum would know scum team doesnt have Assassin. Figure he was trying to trick the town assassin into thinking he has a even number night role or a kill dependent one.
Ter just tried to assassinate Az. Possibly real, also possibly an attempt to clear him. Means scum don't have gravedigger.
How did you know it was Ter?
No one else shoots there, with the single exception of Ter's scummate trying to make it look like Ter was shooting. Even then, unless it's exactly Az, I think they hold the shot to use in late game.
Or ya know if I’m town and figure **** it if imma die I’ll try and take my scum suspect at with me. Which is literally what’s happening
Nope. Az as scum would know scum team doesnt have Assassin. Figure he was trying to trick the town assassin into thinking he has a even number night role or a kill dependent one.
Wait...
So you're claiming that you aren't the assassin. Even though earlier, you were claiming that you are.
(This is a serious look at a potential wording slip.)
Early on ( I’m mobile and going looking for it is a pain In this ass) he said something about scum NKing him so he could play in another game I think it was. Either way asked for the first NK...Struck me as weird and trying to hard so I looked at the roles.
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
But if he died night 1, he'd never be able to share the role flip of who we killed day 1?
Ter just tried to assassinate Az. Possibly real, also possibly an attempt to clear him. Means scum don't have gravedigger.
How did you know it was Ter?
No one else shoots there, with the single exception of Ter's scummate trying to make it look like Ter was shooting. Even then, unless it's exactly Az, I think they hold the shot to use in late game.
Or ya know if I’m town and figure **** it if imma die I’ll try and take my scum suspect at with me. Which is literally what’s happening
Ter, hun, you're not going to convince me. The "kill Az anyway because it's better mechanically" stuff was a better shot.
Also fonti if Az/I are scum why would I actively be still trying to get you kill the ability role left on my team. I’d have shut my yap and skunk off to lick my wounds elsewhere. Lynch him now and I’ll hammer myself d2 if that’s what it takes.
You'd do it so you could make this exact argument.
It’s a stupid as **** gambit. The wagons are me and az. If I’m scum with him just keep my mouth shut. You vote me and scum team has a ability role. You shoot him and scum team has an ability role. There’s nothing to gain from bussing him cept guaranteeing scum team are down a role and a member
Also fonti if Az/I are scum why would I actively be still trying to get you kill the ability role left on my team. I’d have shut my yap and skunk off to lick my wounds elsewhere. Lynch him now and I’ll hammer myself d2 if that’s what it takes.
You'd do it so you could make this exact argument.
It’s a stupid as **** gambit. The wagons are me and az. If I’m scum with him just keep my mouth shut. You vote me and scum team has a ability role. You shoot him and scum team has an ability role. There’s nothing to gain from bussing him cept guaranteeing scum team are down a role and a member
You're already guaranteed to be down a member Today.
Nope. Az as scum would know scum team doesnt have Assassin. Figure he was trying to trick the town assassin into thinking he has a even number night role or a kill dependent one.
Wait...
So you're claiming that you aren't the assassin. Even though earlier, you were claiming that you are.
(This is a serious look at a potential wording slip.)
Where the hell do I say I’m not the Assassin there?
Early on ( I’m mobile and going looking for it is a pain In this ass) he said something about scum NKing him so he could play in another game I think it was. Either way asked for the first NK...Struck me as weird and trying to hard so I looked at the roles.
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
But if he died night 1, he'd never be able to share the role flip of who we killed day 1?
Ter is saying she thought Azrael was the Gravedigger because he said he wanted to die N1, and was probably wifoming, therefore his actual role did not want to get shot N1. I pointed out that for this logic to make sense, she would have to believe Az is town, when he's her biggest scumread. She then claimed that she thought he was trying to hide his role specifically to fool that town!assassin, not the scum rolekill. There basically no step of this argument that actually makes sense.
Early on ( I’m mobile and going looking for it is a pain In this ass) he said something about scum NKing him so he could play in another game I think it was. Either way asked for the first NK...Struck me as weird and trying to hard so I looked at the roles.
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
But if he died night 1, he'd never be able to share the role flip of who we killed day 1?
I’m saying that my shot in the dark hoping this was of use was he trying to pass himself off as a kill dependent role so the Assassin would guess that.
But like Assassin should never be used Day 1. It's legit just a shot in the dark, so GD wouldn't really think Assassin would shoot their bullet day 1 anyway so it's not really a situation I see them proactively WIFOMing against
If it doesn’t make sense than vote me fonti I’m not gonna keep going in circles cause it made sense to me. If it doesn’t to you then whatever guess I’m a dumbass.
I can see the potential defensive action of not wanting someone to guess your role, but again this early I don't think people are worried about assassin unless claims happen and I would hope you would be trying to solve. Did you have a different answer that you edited?
I had nothing to go on and that was the ONLY post I could find that gave me any hint. It’s gonna be a shot in the fake no matter what so I took what I had and hoped I caught something.
Ter, my friend, why would town!you ever think I'd hammer before you got your shot off if you claimed it?
But hey, maybe we still will, heh.
Your not the only person here who could lynch me. Takes lil effort for umami or tubba to change their votes to me
Ironically, I hadn't even decided on killing you.
There's some merit to me hammering Azrael here, since Ter's shot is spent.
That's been crossing my mind but seems like SCARY good theatre... Dunno.
Their homes werent actually safe of course, but the heart wants what it wants.
Azrael (3): umami, tubba, terr
Terraine (3): sloth, azrael, osi
Not voting (1): fulcrum
Deadline is noon PST today (1 hour from this post)
Ter's conf-role ticks Umami's softing downwards.
@Ter exactly what role did you guess for Az? I'm weighting the pros and cons of you revealing this, and it's honestly not a huge risk right now. Go.
If you were being uncharitable, indeed.
Wanted to say Judge But was too much of a coincidence and if he is imma throw an ugly ass tantrum I missed that
Ter outed as scum. If the scummate was not Az and had GD, they could have lied about Ter's alignment Tomorrow. Az could be GD though, I doubt they'd think we'd trust him if he claimed tomorrow.
Humm. I haven't read the full argument, but my impression of the first bit was two scum fighting.
What reasons did you have to suspect he was GD and not just, say, chose any wrong role at random to shoot your scummate with and townfirm him?
Gravedigger has action odd nights so n1 he’d have an ability. If I was shooting blind I thought eh maybe this was him trying to like he didn’t care if he died n1 cause it doesn’t effect his role.
Isn't that logic predicated on Az being town?
You'd do it so you could make this exact argument.
How did you know it was Ter?
No one else shoots there, with the single exception of Ter's scummate trying to make it look like Ter was shooting. Even then, unless it's exactly Az, I think they hold the shot to use in late game.
I don't know what this means
Lol.
What does that mean? Softing downwards?
I will not be baited into rolespec.
I will not be baited into rolespec.
Aight, I'm good.
Or ya know if I’m town and figure **** it if imma die I’ll try and take my scum suspect at with me. Which is literally what’s happening
Wait...
So you're claiming that you aren't the assassin. Even though earlier, you were claiming that you are.
(This is a serious look at a potential wording slip.)
But if he died night 1, he'd never be able to share the role flip of who we killed day 1?
Ter, hun, you're not going to convince me. The "kill Az anyway because it's better mechanically" stuff was a better shot.
It’s a stupid as **** gambit. The wagons are me and az. If I’m scum with him just keep my mouth shut. You vote me and scum team has a ability role. You shoot him and scum team has an ability role. There’s nothing to gain from bussing him cept guaranteeing scum team are down a role and a member
You're already guaranteed to be down a member Today.
Where the hell do I say I’m not the Assassin there?
Ter is saying she thought Azrael was the Gravedigger because he said he wanted to die N1, and was probably wifoming, therefore his actual role did not want to get shot N1. I pointed out that for this logic to make sense, she would have to believe Az is town, when he's her biggest scumread. She then claimed that she thought he was trying to hide his role specifically to fool that town!assassin, not the scum rolekill. There basically no step of this argument that actually makes sense.
I’m saying that my shot in the dark hoping this was of use was he trying to pass himself off as a kill dependent role so the Assassin would guess that.
I had nothing to go on and that was the ONLY post I could find that gave me any hint. It’s gonna be a shot in the fake no matter what so I took what I had and hoped I caught something.
I took a risk it didn’t pan out.