KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KJ, if you buy into this dichotomy thing and DBS is town, you're getting lynched tomorrow. Based on my GJ read, I believe that the ZDS false dichotomy thing could be true, but Sloth clearly doesn't. It's totally possible that either he or vaimes specifically has immunity to the tracker and can still be scum, but I truly don't think they could be the RB too
If you are going to do it I would rather you do Rod from my own POV because you never do Vaimes here. I said my piece on Sloth and Wisp. more cetain on Wisp though.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KJ, if you buy into this dichotomy thing and DBS is town, you're getting lynched tomorrow. Based on my GJ read, I believe that the ZDS false dichotomy thing could be true, but Sloth clearly doesn't. It's totally possible that either he or vaimes specifically has immunity to the tracker and can still be scum, but I truly don't think they could be the RB too
It's possible that we're both twon, and I still don't have a solid read on the slot.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
The “Now, Turning to Reason, & its Just Sweetness” bellied in towards a fractured, broken land of rock and cinder. This, Liaison Officer Chilgitheri informed them, was what was left of the country of Prille, on the continent of Sketevi, on the planet Bulthmaas, in the Chyme system.
“Smell that air,” Chilgitheri told them as they settled into the welcoming couches of the transparent device. It closed its doors and the sounds from outside ceased. “You’ll smell nothing unfiltered for a while, but that is the authentic scent of Bulthmaas.”
“It stinks,” Holse said.
“Yes. There may still be a few of the later wide-spectrum pathogens around, but they ought not to affect you.”
Ferbin and Holse looked at each other. Neither had any idea what pathogens were, but they didn’t like the sound of them.
The little bubble vehicle lifted silently and they crossed the glassy surface of the crater to a construction made of thick metal plates jutting out from the jumbled debris of the lower crater wall like some monstrous iron flower growing from that riven, death-grey geography. A set of ponderously massive doors swung open and the dark tunnels swallowed them. Rodemy has been executed by Judge Killjoy. He was:
Klatsli Quike, an Avatoid of the Liveware Problem Town Vanilla
“Astle-Chulinisa Klatsli LP Quike dam Uast.”
“LP?” she said. “The letters L and P?”
“The letters L and P,” he confirmed, with a small nod and a mischievous smile.
“I’m well travelled, Ms Seriy; a Wanderer. I am older than I look, I have met many people and given and shared and received many things. … A nested mystery in the centre of my name is no more than I deserve. Trust me.” -- Klatsli Quike, to Djan Seriy
Avatoids are biomechanical beings created by the Culture’s hyper-intelligent AIs and given a fragment of the mind’s personality. Klatsli Quike meets Djan Seriy aboard the alien ship Inspiral, Coelescence, Ringdown to offer her the services of his ship, the Liveware Problem, as she returns to her homeworld to mourn the death of her father.
Vanilla: You have no weapons other than your voice and your vote.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
Let's pause and look at the situation holistically.
We live in either of two worlds.
— In the first, some of the claimed PRs are lying and/or scum, mostly in the Johnny/Uma/KJ/dawning group.
— In the second, all PR claims are true and the game was balanced through expecting them to cannibalise each other and perhaps by giving scum powerful roles.
I'm going to stop you here, most of you say is based on the premise that the second is true. Which. Holy *****.
First of all, "cannibalise."
Second of all, there's no actual reason to assume it's the second, and every reason you provide are entirely up to human error, which is impossible to prove as the intent of the mod.
Third of all, in no part of the opening post is the word "bastard" seen. I refuse to believe the game is set up for town to fight amongst each other based on what they're given unless it's a bastard game, and so should everyone, what the **** Dork.
Mods balancing their games by intentionally including too many PRs and letting modgaming turn them into potential mislynches is rare and somewhat bastardly, but not unheard of.
You even say it here.
There is more, but none of it are things that haven't already been brought up in the last 24 hours, so I decided I'm not wasting my time repeating them.
“We are here to see a man called Xide Hyrlis,” Ferbin told the Nariscene and the small pale man-thing.
“There is no one of that name here.”
“What?”
“There is no one of that name here.”
“That cannot be true!” Ferbin protested. “The Morthanveld who brought us here assured us this is where Hyrlis is!”
“They could be mistaken,” the Nariscene suggested, without waiting for the man to speak.
“I suspect they are not,” Ferbin said icily. “Kindly be so good as to tell Mr Hyrlis that a prince of the Sarl, the surviving son of his old good friend, the late King Nerieth Hausk of the Eighth, Sursamen, wishes to see him, having travelled amongst the stars all the way from that great world at the express favour, with emphasis, of our friends the Morthanveld with the specific mission of meeting with him, as affirmed by Director General Shoum herself. See to it, if you would.”No one died.
@KJ WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU. YOU HAD A SURE THING.
@DORK WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU? STOP MUDDLING THE PICTURE FOR NO GOOD REASON.
VOTE PHRAZE
JESUS. EFFIN. CHRIST.
I made a choice. It was wrong, but still. I thought that, given there was still a chance that me/dbs wasn't a dichotomy, I decided to shoot in the unknowns to hopefully catch scum hiding in there.
And yes, Johnny targeted me with his neighbor shot.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I was redirected to KJ, and he would be happy to confirm that.
Suppose since the cats out of the bag.
I am a JOAT. Watcher/Doctor/Neighborizer
I felt cheated when I got my role, as I wanted the neighbor to be a vig shot. But I guess there aren't any vigs, apart from the desperado.
Ok this is nonsense tbh, are you telling me mafia have a redirector and a RB but they still don't choose to RB the jailkeep to confirm their kill and not get caught. I suppose possible they have a JOAT who is one shot redirect and RB but a bit weird.
Time to see if my gut is right.
Gut don't be wrong plz
“Smell that air,” Chilgitheri told them as they settled into the welcoming couches of the transparent device. It closed its doors and the sounds from outside ceased. “You’ll smell nothing unfiltered for a while, but that is the authentic scent of Bulthmaas.”
“It stinks,” Holse said.
“Yes. There may still be a few of the later wide-spectrum pathogens around, but they ought not to affect you.”
Ferbin and Holse looked at each other. Neither had any idea what pathogens were, but they didn’t like the sound of them.
The little bubble vehicle lifted silently and they crossed the glassy surface of the crater to a construction made of thick metal plates jutting out from the jumbled debris of the lower crater wall like some monstrous iron flower growing from that riven, death-grey geography. A set of ponderously massive doors swung open and the dark tunnels swallowed them.
Rodemy has been executed by Judge Killjoy. He was:
Town Vanilla
“Astle-Chulinisa Klatsli LP Quike dam Uast.”
“LP?” she said. “The letters L and P?”
“The letters L and P,” he confirmed, with a small nod and a mischievous smile.
“I’m well travelled, Ms Seriy; a Wanderer. I am older than I look, I have met many people and given and shared and received many things. … A nested mystery in the centre of my name is no more than I deserve. Trust me.” -- Klatsli Quike, to Djan Seriy
Avatoids are biomechanical beings created by the Culture’s hyper-intelligent AIs and given a fragment of the mind’s personality. Klatsli Quike meets Djan Seriy aboard the alien ship Inspiral, Coelescence, Ringdown to offer her the services of his ship, the Liveware Problem, as she returns to her homeworld to mourn the death of her father.
Vanilla: You have no weapons other than your voice and your vote.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is Night 3. Please do not post.
Night 3 ends at 11:59:59 PM Eastern Time on 19 May 2020. Please submit actions at least one hour early to prevent delays to the start of Day 4.
[historical vote counts will be inserted momentarily]
First of all, "cannibalise."
Second of all, there's no actual reason to assume it's the second, and every reason you provide are entirely up to human error, which is impossible to prove as the intent of the mod.
Third of all, in no part of the opening post is the word "bastard" seen. I refuse to believe the game is set up for town to fight amongst each other based on what they're given unless it's a bastard game, and so should everyone, what the **** Dork.
You even say it here.
There is more, but none of it are things that haven't already been brought up in the last 24 hours, so I decided I'm not wasting my time repeating them.
“We are here to see a man called Xide Hyrlis,” Ferbin told the Nariscene and the small pale man-thing.
“There is no one of that name here.”
“What?”
“There is no one of that name here.”
“That cannot be true!” Ferbin protested. “The Morthanveld who brought us here assured us this is where Hyrlis is!”
“They could be mistaken,” the Nariscene suggested, without waiting for the man to speak.
“I suspect they are not,” Ferbin said icily. “Kindly be so good as to tell Mr Hyrlis that a prince of the Sarl, the surviving son of his old good friend, the late King Nerieth Hausk of the Eighth, Sursamen, wishes to see him, having travelled amongst the stars all the way from that great world at the express favour, with emphasis, of our friends the Morthanveld with the specific mission of meeting with him, as affirmed by Director General Shoum herself. See to it, if you would.”
No one died.
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to achieve a majority.
It is Day 4. You may begin posting.
Day 4 ends at 11:59:59 PM Eastern Time on 30 May 2020.
gotcha.
Does scumdbs govern townjack?
I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm really considering it
Otherwise i think you should claim your results
@KJ WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU. YOU HAD A SURE THING.
@DORK WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU? STOP MUDDLING THE PICTURE FOR NO GOOD REASON.
VOTE PHRAZE
JESUS. EFFIN. CHRIST.
I wanna hear it
I was redirected to KJ, and he would be happy to confirm that.
Suppose since the cats out of the bag.
I am a JOAT. Watcher/Doctor/Neighborizer
I felt cheated when I got my role, as I wanted the neighbor to be a vig shot. But I guess there aren't any vigs, apart from the desperado.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Jesus.
...man, scum is really getting screwed this game.
eh
I target a player and until the end of Day 3, we have super secret chat.
I tried to target tom, but was redirected to KJ instead.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
vote: DBS
And yes, Johnny targeted me with his neighbor shot.
Ok this is nonsense tbh, are you telling me mafia have a redirector and a RB but they still don't choose to RB the jailkeep to confirm their kill and not get caught. I suppose possible they have a JOAT who is one shot redirect and RB but a bit weird.
...The irony, if he's actually Lagoon.