KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Batra had been thinking. And why am I being included here?
More modelling. Using the pattern of affected snuck-away ships and a pre-existing profile of Oct interests, we have drawn up a list of likely destinations for the real craft.
The marginally most likely disposition is a distributed one, or rather one of two not dissimilar choices: in each, the Primarians and other strategic craft take up various different positions, either defensive or offensive, depending. The defensive model implies a more even spread of forces than the offensive one, which favours greater concentration. These represent options one and two respectively in the modelled plausibility grading. There is, however, a third option, shown here.
The other layers fell away but Batra had already spotted the pattern and the place within it that was its focus.
They could be gathering round Sursamen, he sent.
The General Contact Unit It’s My Party And I’ll Sing If I Want To still sounded puzzled: Well, quite. The Judge, Killjoy, has activated the following ability:
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So I did some thinking. Both DBS and Kj can be town. The roles go hand in hand. Governor pardons the lynch, judge can kill someone else who isn’t the lynch.
Which leaves umami vaimes jack and sloth.
I’m still gunning for umami/ vaimes and nothing has proven me otherwise. Regardless, hopefully someone will be cleared again tonight and out poe can be smaller.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Tom is confirmed
Shadow and ZDS are pretty much confirmed, plz dont be stupid
I think I gave my thoughts somewhere on how I feel about GJ
He new both Shadow and Tubba targeted ZDS, so he played suboptimally here for no reason if he is a wolf with Tubba
I still think this is Rodemy's town game, given his playstyle, overall tone, and presence in the thread
Phraze/DBS is a mod confirmed Governor, who saved Jack because ???
Mechanically the likelihood of both her and Killjoy being town is slim
Her mechanical play makes no sense here if she is a wolf, possible W/W with Jack I guess?
Possible it’s one in Jack/Sloth because of wagon movements? I think both their content is fine on a macro level, with Jack looking worse because of his inability to stay consistent, and with Sloth looking a little better because his content feels more natural. I have been snowed by both of them though, so who knows
POE-wise, it just feels like Umami/Vaimes/Killjoy
Killjoy doesn’t want to shoot in Phraze, which is terrible imo
Or Jack, or Vaimes his counter wagon
it feels like we have just been burning ourselves for literally no reason
Don’t feel like doing anything more, this whole outcome has just left me contemplating my life choices
Good Luck! Probably won't be back for a bit, since I am trying focus on being a better player, as well as a mod on my home-site
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
uggh wtf man
all these garbage plays
Rhand, then Phraze, and now Killjoy?
Like I just cant haha
at least I dont have to worry about being mislynched now, can keep my record
I'm shooting into the vanillas. Out of them, your play has impressed me the least. So I shot you.
not gonna lie im sort of taking that choice as a scum claim. Would love to hear you justify it but
Your justification probably doesnt matter, unless he flips scum that should guarantee you get lynched before dawn
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
uggh wtf man
all these garbage plays
Rhand, then Phraze, and now Killjoy?
Like I just cant haha
at least I dont have to worry about being mislynched now, can keep my record
I'm shooting into the vanillas. Out of them, your play has impressed me the least. So I shot you.
not gonna lie im sort of taking that choice as a scum claim. Would love to hear you justify it but
Your justification probably doesnt matter, unless he flips scum that should guarantee you get lynched before dawn
You literally thinking everything I do is scum. Not because it is, but because you're tunneling.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Also I was 100% gonna hit dbs but talked myself out of it. Your saying "he doesn't want to" like I never wanted to. Which is obviously wrong.
What have you achieved if Wisp flips town here picking others at least helped us more. Well unless this makes scum RB like Umani said which I'm still not really sold on.
Governor: can pardon; as a scum role, could try to pardon town to create suspicion and hope that judge doesn’t then hit scum and if you get caught get a potential mislynch in the form of the town you saved (high risk, low to at best moderate reward) or could pardon scum but know that when you get caught they’re likely next; as town, can prevent a consensus mislynch or accidentally protect scum and then put it in the judges hands (not that uber powerful of a role)
Judge: automatically works if governor chooses to pardon; scum judge would get an automatic double lynch any time the governor chose to act (day lynch during twilight + night lynch); that’s a pretty powerful role in scum hands. If town, you get one person making a team decision with no additional knowledge so not that powerful a tool for town.
So governor and judge shouldn’t be scum/scum, that would be crazy and automatic scum win.
Could see scum governor/town judge but think that any of these roles in scum hands is dangerous. I don't even think Judge can be scum in a game where governor exists because that would be so heavily weighted against town it would be absolutely terrible game design. It would just be doubly penalizing town any time governor decided to be activated.
Town/town roles actually seem to be a decent possibility as these roles cause chaos that benefit scum and actually don’t seem that powerful or helpful in town hands unless town is really good (which so far we’re definitely not); if town/town forces a false dichotomy and likely gets scum a mislynch so another way of actually undermining town power with power roles.
Based on game mechanics, I'm clearing KJ. There's no way with this set up we could have w/w DBS and KJ and no way we could have t/w DBS and KJ. DBS can be scum or not but with this set up it would be insane for KJ to be scum
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Governor: can pardon; as a scum role, could try to pardon town to create suspicion and hope that judge doesn’t then hit scum and if you get caught get a potential mislynch in the form of the town you saved (high risk, low to at best moderate reward) or could pardon scum but know that when you get caught they’re likely next; as town, can prevent a consensus mislynch or accidentally protect scum and then put it in the judges hands (not that uber powerful of a role)
Judge: automatically works if governor chooses to pardon; scum judge would get an automatic double lynch any time the governor chose to act (day lynch during twilight + night lynch); that’s a pretty powerful role in scum hands. If town, you get one person making a team decision with no additional knowledge so not that powerful a tool for town.
So governor and judge shouldn’t be scum/scum, that would be crazy and automatic scum win.
Could see scum governor/town judge but think that any of these roles in scum hands is dangerous. I don't even think Judge can be scum in a game where governor exists because that would be so heavily weighted against town it would be absolutely terrible game design. It would just be doubly penalizing town any time governor decided to be activated.
Town/town roles actually seem to be a decent possibility as these roles cause chaos that benefit scum and actually don’t seem that powerful or helpful in town hands unless town is really good (which so far we’re definitely not); if town/town forces a false dichotomy and likely gets scum a mislynch so another way of actually undermining town power with power roles.
Based on game mechanics, I'm clearing KJ. There's no way with this set up we could have w/w DBS and KJ and no way we could have t/w DBS and KJ. DBS can be scum or not but with this set up it would be insane for KJ to be scum
Governor: can pardon; as a scum role, could try to pardon town to create suspicion and hope that judge doesn’t then hit scum and if you get caught get a potential mislynch in the form of the town you saved (high risk, low to at best moderate reward) or could pardon scum but know that when you get caught they’re likely next; as town, can prevent a consensus mislynch or accidentally protect scum and then put it in the judges hands (not that uber powerful of a role)
Judge: automatically works if governor chooses to pardon; scum judge would get an automatic double lynch any time the governor chose to act (day lynch during twilight + night lynch); that’s a pretty powerful role in scum hands. If town, you get one person making a team decision with no additional knowledge so not that powerful a tool for town.
So governor and judge shouldn’t be scum/scum, that would be crazy and automatic scum win.
Could see scum governor/town judge but think that any of these roles in scum hands is dangerous. I don't even think Judge can be scum in a game where governor exists because that would be so heavily weighted against town it would be absolutely terrible game design. It would just be doubly penalizing town any time governor decided to be activated.
Town/town roles actually seem to be a decent possibility as these roles cause chaos that benefit scum and actually don’t seem that powerful or helpful in town hands unless town is really good (which so far we’re definitely not); if town/town forces a false dichotomy and likely gets scum a mislynch so another way of actually undermining town power with power roles.
Based on game mechanics, I'm clearing KJ. There's no way with this set up we could have w/w DBS and KJ and no way we could have t/w DBS and KJ. DBS can be scum or not but with this set up it would be insane for KJ to be scum
I can possibily see a scum Phraze saving me to mess up the next day on being a mislynch. I just think the way she has acted since feels very real and unaware if scum her team would give her more info surely. It is also a move that only makes her a easy scum read since it has annoyed so many town. Like I said before if she is scum I think Sloth is a possible teammate but don't think either are scum atm.
I still think KJ killing DBS was the right choice instead we are now stuck with both. Still have the me or Sloth issue. We also still have the me or Vaimes issue. A lynch on DBS, Sloth or Vaimes makes way more sense in this gamestate. Now we are just stuck with all 3 issues still and a mislynch on me tomorrow does not fix any of them straight away.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
so he shouldn’t shoot dbs
Just food for thought.
Killing town in the poe keeps you alive?
What?
That, old chum, is very much the question.
Batra had been thinking. And why am I being included here?
More modelling. Using the pattern of affected snuck-away ships and a pre-existing profile of Oct interests, we have drawn up a list of likely destinations for the real craft.
The marginally most likely disposition is a distributed one, or rather one of two not dissimilar choices: in each, the Primarians and other strategic craft take up various different positions, either defensive or offensive, depending. The defensive model implies a more even spread of forces than the offensive one, which favours greater concentration. These represent options one and two respectively in the modelled plausibility grading. There is, however, a third option, shown here.
The other layers fell away but Batra had already spotted the pattern and the place within it that was its focus.
They could be gathering round Sursamen, he sent.
The General Contact Unit It’s My Party And I’ll Sing If I Want To still sounded puzzled: Well, quite.
The Judge, Killjoy, has activated the following ability:
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Didn't have time for this game anyways
friend or foe?
Which leaves umami vaimes jack and sloth.
I’m still gunning for umami/ vaimes and nothing has proven me otherwise. Regardless, hopefully someone will be cleared again tonight and out poe can be smaller.
Which, By his reaction I think is the case.
Umami lies about being a watcher, her choices for night actions don’t match her reads nor the fact gj claimed watcher.
The fact she used that lie to clear sloth and vaimes makes me think it’s probably just her vaimes and sloth.
Let’s say jack is telling the truth. I think that’s the scumteam. If last flips town, I will stick by that until some ********* changes my mind.
She claimed tracker though you can have both
Also that's a ridiculous team.
that’s what I was saying.
And it’s not, there are many instances that link you and umami.
This is pretty true iv my meta on Wisp is true. Other options are better but when have PR listened to us this game.
yeah I’m pretty pissed at all the choices these PR’s are making.
Stop that.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the oven
it’s not heat, it’s like... a warm kitten.
all these garbage plays
Rhand, then Phraze, and now Killjoy?
Like I just cant haha
at least I dont have to worry about being mislynched now, can keep my record
This is a lot of misplays tbh. I take it this means I was right and you are town?
10. Lastwhisper
8. tomsloger
7. shadowlancerx
2. ZeDorkSlipeur
3. Gentleman Johnny
13. Rodemy
1. dawningbluesky
5. Jackrito
12. Slothful
9. Vaimes
11. Umami
15. Killjoy
Tom is confirmed
Shadow and ZDS are pretty much confirmed, plz dont be stupid
I think I gave my thoughts somewhere on how I feel about GJ
He new both Shadow and Tubba targeted ZDS, so he played suboptimally here for no reason if he is a wolf with Tubba
I still think this is Rodemy's town game, given his playstyle, overall tone, and presence in the thread
Phraze/DBS is a mod confirmed Governor, who saved Jack because ???
Mechanically the likelihood of both her and Killjoy being town is slim
Her mechanical play makes no sense here if she is a wolf, possible W/W with Jack I guess?
Possible it’s one in Jack/Sloth because of wagon movements? I think both their content is fine on a macro level, with Jack looking worse because of his inability to stay consistent, and with Sloth looking a little better because his content feels more natural. I have been snowed by both of them though, so who knows
POE-wise, it just feels like Umami/Vaimes/Killjoy
Killjoy doesn’t want to shoot in Phraze, which is terrible imo
Or Jack, or Vaimes his counter wagon
it feels like we have just been burning ourselves for literally no reason
Don’t feel like doing anything more, this whole outcome has just left me contemplating my life choices
Good Luck! Probably won't be back for a bit, since I am trying focus on being a better player, as well as a mod on my home-site
Your justification probably doesnt matter, unless he flips scum that should guarantee you get lynched before dawn
What have you achieved if Wisp flips town here picking others at least helped us more. Well unless this makes scum RB like Umani said which I'm still not really sold on.
Governor: can pardon; as a scum role, could try to pardon town to create suspicion and hope that judge doesn’t then hit scum and if you get caught get a potential mislynch in the form of the town you saved (high risk, low to at best moderate reward) or could pardon scum but know that when you get caught they’re likely next; as town, can prevent a consensus mislynch or accidentally protect scum and then put it in the judges hands (not that uber powerful of a role)
Judge: automatically works if governor chooses to pardon; scum judge would get an automatic double lynch any time the governor chose to act (day lynch during twilight + night lynch); that’s a pretty powerful role in scum hands. If town, you get one person making a team decision with no additional knowledge so not that powerful a tool for town.
So governor and judge shouldn’t be scum/scum, that would be crazy and automatic scum win.
Could see scum governor/town judge but think that any of these roles in scum hands is dangerous. I don't even think Judge can be scum in a game where governor exists because that would be so heavily weighted against town it would be absolutely terrible game design. It would just be doubly penalizing town any time governor decided to be activated.
Town/town roles actually seem to be a decent possibility as these roles cause chaos that benefit scum and actually don’t seem that powerful or helpful in town hands unless town is really good (which so far we’re definitely not); if town/town forces a false dichotomy and likely gets scum a mislynch so another way of actually undermining town power with power roles.
Based on game mechanics, I'm clearing KJ. There's no way with this set up we could have w/w DBS and KJ and no way we could have t/w DBS and KJ. DBS can be scum or not but with this set up it would be insane for KJ to be scum
Did anyone ever say this was w/w?
I went over every possible combination...
Lasts response there to his dying wasn't bad.
Wait you can still switch it?